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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Karlovych: 1:19pm On Mar 10, 2022
komekn:
I would say in general money is a determinating component in getting the best players.

But it's not the only unit to measure quality but in general once again it's very indicative. There will always be mistakes and projection expectations that goes wrong. It's very normal.

Is Gnabry better than Hudson, l really don't know. However, what is very apparent players who struggle in the EPL often go to the Bundesliga and become outstanding, e.g. Sancho, Batshuayi, Ademola, Nelson, etc.

As a consequence it's difficult to say, because if you put Hudson-Odio in the Bundesliga he will do s lot better. But if you put Gnabry in the EPL I don't think he will have the same dominance he has in the Bundesliga.

What is even very clear is most players struggle to replicate the same form in the Bundesliga when they come to the EPL. This is much more pronounced with forward players. Because Rudiger is an exception although he has a lot of time to learn since he arrived in 2017.

On the other hand Timo, Havertz have been DISSAPOINTING consider that Timo is on near £300k a week.
Serge Gnabry is better than Odoi (with 3 England caps and is looking to Switch to Ghana), Lookman wasn't outstanding in Leipzig. Emile Smith Rowe went there and was anonymous as well.
Gundogan, Aubameyang, Heung Min Son, Dzeko and De Bryne came from Germany and performed way better than the ones that went to Germany from the EPL
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero47: 1:23pm On Mar 10, 2022
TheLoneCitizen:
Why are you concluding his whole season on a single game?

Only Foden and Gabriel Jesus are involved in the immediate buildup to a goal per 90 than Mahrez. (10+ starts)

He is even higher than Bernando, who is a pre-assist merchant and KDB in the form of his live.

If you tilt towards key passes per 90, he is third at City behind only KDB and Grealish.

What else do you want from a winger?
If you don't know I'm a Man city fan and I've watched almost every Mahrez match since he joined City, of course he would be behind Foden, Bernardo, Grealish and Jesus (2 of whom played sparing amounts this season) in build up play stats because he has played the most of our attackers but using the eye his city form and his Leicester form are not even close at all while in Leicester he would be a pain to the opposition ass with his dribbling and directness while Man city he is only used to stretch opposition and his dribbling doesn't work because he rarely uses them, City are now pushed to channel their attacks through the left hand side , his goal scoring exploits via City countless chance creation and penalties are good but City need more threat through the right hand side.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Windscribe: 2:10pm On Mar 10, 2022
andrewbaba44:
British people are known for double standards

This is pure day light robbery against Abramovich and Chelsea
Anything or measure placed To stop Russian invasion of Ukraine is welcome.

Chelsea football club is not more important than the lives of kids, men and women dying everyday in Ukraine.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 2:24pm On Mar 10, 2022
Karlovych:
Saka came from Arsenal youth team and made it to the first team ahead of Pepe because he was performing better.

Adarabioyo came from Man City youth team where he failed to make an impact and is now at Fulham. If he was all that special why did no epl team sign him? Or he preferred to play at his level at Fulham.

We all saw he comedic errors while he was in the epl with them, there is nothing special about him

As for Maguire, no amount of excuse you give can change the fact that he is an overrated fraud and it has nothing to do with injury or loss of form.
cheesy cheesy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 2:25pm On Mar 10, 2022
Windscribe:
Anything or measure placed To stop Russian invasion of Ukraine is welcome.

Chelsea football club is not more important than the lives of kids, men and women dying everyday in Ukraine.
It’s stupidity oga
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 2:28pm On Mar 10, 2022
TheLoneCitizen:
You probably don't watch him at Roma.

Didn't like Smalling when he came, man has gained his trust and is undroppable now.

Wanted Sergio Olivera, but now benches him because he hasn't convinced him.
true hadn't watched him at Roma, and they had not been doing badly too, I was surprised Tammy had been balling under him
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Windscribe: 2:30pm On Mar 10, 2022
andrewbaba44:
It’s stupidity oga
Then go and reverse the decision.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Subzero47: 2:34pm On Mar 10, 2022
komekn:
Can you be objective and SUBSTANSIVE ❓

You are taking my deductions out of context. In general what people (football clubs) are prepared to pay for you is a good indicator of your quality.

Sometimes mistakes are made for a host of reasons , injuries mid season and you pay over the odds to get your player in desperation.

Pepe cost how much ? But small boy Saka has benched him . He had been unable to replicate his outstanding form in French League 1.

Manchester United paid way too much for Harry Maguire ,he is a good defender bit he has lost form and some of his handicaps have shown he isn't good enough for Manchester United .
But his salary shows that he is a world class defender grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by mostob(m): 2:35pm On Mar 10, 2022
NFF demanded 10,000 tickets from Ghana whereas cape coast stadium can only take 15,000 fans... grin grin

See intimidation
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 2:39pm On Mar 10, 2022
Windscribe:
Then go and reverse the decision.
Go and stop Putin nah
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Windscribe: 2:42pm On Mar 10, 2022
andrewbaba44:
Go and stop Putin nah
I don't need to, Putin is already losing on all fronts.

Now mugu go and reverse the decision.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 2:46pm On Mar 10, 2022
andrewbaba44:
British people are known for double standards

This is pure day light robbery against Abramovich and Chelsea
while I agreed with you, baba olowo should had seen this coming since they started investigating him as one of Putin croonies, he even made matter worst for himself without, showing strong evidence to show, otherwise ,

anyways what do I know, it's their land, so its their policy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 2:50pm On Mar 10, 2022
Windscribe:
I don't need to, Putin is already losing on all fronts.

Now mugu go and reverse the decision.
As far as Na American or British ,I expected senseless people like you to lick their ass

Now shift
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 2:53pm On Mar 10, 2022
mostob:
NFF demanded 10,000 tickets from Ghana whereas cape coast stadium can only take 15,000 fans... grin grin

See intimidation
correct, that's how it should be,

BTW, this NFF had tried alot, playing qualifiers left, right and center, with a little, or no travel glitch,

and what more we are on cause to qualify for more championership, after the SF, it's Falconer, next will be Flamingos, then the SE, Chaiii
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 2:56pm On Mar 10, 2022
andrewbaba44:
As far as Na American or British ,I expected senseless people like you to lick their ass

Now shift
Andrew don't bring politics here whether local or international i beg you. Now don't go pointing fingers talking about who first started or seconded it, I beg you sir.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Windscribe: 2:57pm On Mar 10, 2022
andrewbaba44:
As far as Na American or British ,I expected senseless people like you to lick their ass

Now shift
Mumu man, if America or britain were to invade another sovereign country today, I would definitely support the country that got invaded, even though my support might not amount to anything.

This is not a case of ass licking but a case of supporting the prey, underdog and the helpless.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 2:59pm On Mar 10, 2022
Windscribe:
Mumu man, if America or britain were to invade another sovereign country today, I would definitely support the country that got invaded, even though my support might not amount to anything.

This is not a case of ass licking but a case of supporting the prey, underdog and the helpless.
America have been invading and destroying countries for decades ,what did anyone do about that ?

Who sanctioned them ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Windscribe: 3:02pm On Mar 10, 2022
mostob:
NFF demanded 10,000 tickets from Ghana whereas cape coast stadium can only take 15,000 fans... grin grin

See intimidation
Intimidation or stupidity ?

I don't know why Nigerian football fans are so confident of winning this crucial match, you bums should learn from humiliation of Garoua, the game against Tunisia should teach you guys a lesson.

Nff requesting for 10k of 15k capacity stadium in an away game isn't intimidation but foolishness, stupidity, madness or any foul word you can call it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Windscribe: 3:08pm On Mar 10, 2022
While Nigeria, our country qualifying for the mundial would be a great thing, prestige and bragging right, I think the fans should have a bit of respect, you have to respect the opponent and learn from the aftermath of previous overconfidence, like the one against Tunisia in Garoua.

Ghana is a force to be reckoned in African football, and our H2H with them has always being us getting whooped.

I pray the game would not result to gnashing of teeth here as always.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Windscribe: 3:13pm On Mar 10, 2022
We need to learn from Great managers like Pep Guardiola, Conte and all.
Respect is key in football, might be in form of Mind game.

Guardiola would always give a shout-out to the opponent even if the opponent were Dakkada united or Go round.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Windscribe: 3:27pm On Mar 10, 2022
You hype your players sotey dem go loose to a country that has 12 of her top players unavailable due to covid-19

What of players selection? You put your top goal scorers like Onuachu and Awoniyi on standby list, why you invite players sitting on bench in Saudi Arabia second division.

You don't want Ademola lookman, you thinks he's surplus to requirements, but the same Lookman playing as winger has more goals than Kelechi Iheanacho for Leicester city this season .

The earlier you guys realize that the super eagles isn't a great team the better, our duel against big African teams In the recent years has not been impressive.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Eizzy003(m): 3:34pm On Mar 10, 2022
Windscribe:
I don't need to, Putin is already losing on all fronts.

Now mugu go and reverse the decision.
What makes u feel Putin is loosing on all grounds.
If he is loosing on all grounds why is US sanction on Russia affecting US so much that they have to go around begging and trying to open talks with Saudi Arabia and UAE (who are not even ready to talk to US) so they could increase the supply of oil, and why are they opening talks with Venuezela (who has the world largest oil reserve and also an ally of Russia), when was they last time US even had talks with them.
If he is also loosing why is the EU treading with caution when it comes sanctioning Russia after the US most have told them the heasten their sanction on Russia and most heavyweight countries in the EU are yet to sanction them.
Oga wetin u no knw big pass u, so leave am make we no come the talk politics for SE thread
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Damioduso1: 4:00pm On Mar 10, 2022
Super eagles is about to loose another promising prospect to The English National team. Southgate has approache Michael Olise of crystal Palace to play for the three Lions of England ahead of France, Algeria And Nigeria
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Samueltemi337(m): 4:19pm On Mar 10, 2022
Karlovych:
Serge Gnabry is better than Odoi (with 3 England caps and is looking to Switch to Ghana), Lookman wasn't outstanding in Leipzig. Emile Smith Rowe went there and was anonymous as well.
Gundogan, Aubameyang, Heung Min Son, Dzeko and De Bryne came from Germany and performed way better than the ones that went to Germany from the EPL
Lookman was impressive for Leipzig


Leipzig Na know wetin be their problem
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 4:50pm On Mar 10, 2022
Subzero47:
If you don't know I'm a Man city fan and I've watched almost every Mahrez match since he joined City, of course he would be behind Foden, Bernardo, Grealish and Jesus (2 of whom played sparing amounts this season) in build up play stats because he has played the most of our attackers but using the eye his city form and his Leicester form are not even close at all while in Leicester he would be a pain to the opposition ass with his dribbling and directness while Man city he is only used to stretch opposition and his dribbling doesn't work because he rarely uses them, City are now pushed to channel their attacks through the left hand side , his goal scoring exploits via City countless chance creation and penalties are good but City need more threat through the right hand side.
I get your point now, he doesn't dribble and take the game like at Leicester.

I thought you meant he doesn't get involved in build up any longer.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by kingphilip(m): 4:52pm On Mar 10, 2022
Damioduso1:
Super eagles is about to loose another promising prospect to The English National team. Southgate has approache Michael Olise of crystal Palace to play for the three Lions of England ahead of France, Algeria And Nigeria
Wahala for underdogs sha.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 5:00pm On Mar 10, 2022
Damioduso1:
Super eagles is about to loose another promising prospect to The English National team. Southgate has approache Michael Olise of crystal Palace to play for the three Lions of England ahead of France, Algeria And Nigeria
This Olise matter get as eh be. Today eh go gree tomorrow dem go change the guy mind. What happened in Rohr's time is repeating itself again.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by chrisooblog: 5:02pm On Mar 10, 2022
You are free to criticize the team but some of the points you are making I don't get.

Osimhen who is our top striker is in the list, Ighalo who is in form is back. Dennis is also back. Which Lookman is surplus to requirements? Didn't you see his name on the list of invited players?

People support the national team because it's our country and will always wish them the best. If we were waiting for the team to be great before we start supporting them many of us won't have been on this thread.

Nigeria fans like those of any country will always back their team no matter what. Ghana that lost to Comoros have their fans stopping wishing them well or hoping for the best? It's your prerogative not to support the SE but it's unrealistic to insist people follow your path. If people want to rate our team no matter how unrealistic it's their rate. Teams win, Teams lose that's football no need for all this angst.

Windscribe:
You hype your players sotey dem go loose to a country that has 12 of her top players unavailable due to covid-19

What of players selection? You put your top goal scorers like Onuachu and Awoniyi on standby list, why you invite players sitting on bench in Saudi Arabia second division.

You don't want Ademola lookman, you thinks he's surplus to requirements, but the same Lookman playing as winger has more goals than Kelechi Iheanacho for Leicester city this season .

The earlier you guys realize that the super eagles isn't a great team the better, our duel against big African teams In the recent years has not been impressive.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by kingphilip(m): 5:02pm On Mar 10, 2022
JohnBullMySon:
This Olise matter get as eh be. Today eh go gree tomorrow dem go change the guy mind. What happened in Rohr's time is repeating itself again.
He said we should qualify first.

So if people wey don qualify call am up na to jump ship now.

If him go Qatar 2022 through England or Nigeria too all go na go.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:06pm On Mar 10, 2022
andrewbaba44:
Rating players by what they earn is foolishness plus stupidity

Jadon sancho is earning more than Mohammed salah ,I guess that makes sancho better than salah

You capped nonsense

Chop your L in peace and keep your mouth shut
Rating players in general by what the industry is willing to pay them is an indicator of VALUE which is intrinsically linked to quality.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by JohnBullMySon: 5:18pm On Mar 10, 2022
kingphilip:
He said we should qualify first.

So if people wey don qualify call am up na to jump ship now.

If him go Qatar 2022 through England or Nigeria too all go na go.
Lol. The guy gree during Rohr time sef only for Southgate and his demonic agents to confuse him immediately.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by eddie7: 5:37pm On Mar 10, 2022
andrewbaba44:
British people are known for double standards

This is pure day light robbery against Abramovich and Chelsea
The Carabao cup finals against Liverpool clearly comes to mind ..... politics in football
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