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Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by YEBOmadiba: 5:32pm On Feb 08, 2022
fergie001:

The JSC wanted to do it to show some transparency. I think Zondo is the target. It is obvious, they do not want him knowing that's Rama's first choice and Mlambo his second.

Madlanga & Maya are on their own. Madlanga'a weakness is just his years left to serve.

Mlambo was the reason for Malema and Lamola's screaming match cheesy. Did u catch that? The accusation is that Lamola (Rama by extension) pushed Mlambo into the Concourt recently.
Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by YEBOmadiba: 5:39pm On Feb 08, 2022
morpheus101:


Again if you remove the illegal foreign nationals from the informal sector and low skilled jobs like hair dressing salons, street vendors, barber shops, truck drivers and the likes are your people coming to replace them? What plans have been put in place to implement this comeback?

Are there on going programs to train a mass of people to become truck drivers, hair dressers, spaza shop owners?

If and when they replace them, who is coming to those locations to patronize? Jobless local South Africans with no money?


What percentage of informal sector jobs makes up the entire available employment sector?

Who and why are you patronizing these informal sector workers. If you simply stopped going to the Spaza shops, local pakistani cell phone shops and hair dressing salons owned by "these" foreigners how will they thrive? You are 60 million strong neh?




So lets grant you your 5 million illegal immigrant population. How does this percentage threaten a total population of 60 million people in a space where the locals basically out number and control. Apart from street corners, small shops in locations what other positions of power do these foreigners occupy that influences government policies towards bettering your peoples plight that you can elaborate for us here?

Poignant questions you conveniently dodge with one liner comeback.


Oh lawd! Try making your answers shorter dude, like dang! shocked

Anyway, do u think there was no life and enterprise before foreign nationals arrived in SA undecided According to your logic black South Africans didn't have their hair cut or goods driven around in trucks.

The skills are there - they've just been overlooked for cheaper foreign slave labour - that's the main issue here.

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Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by fergie001: 5:41pm On Feb 08, 2022
YEBOmadiba:
Mlambo was the reason for Malema and Lamola's screaming match cheesy. Did u catch that? The accusation is that Lamola (Rama by extension) pushed Mlambo into the Concourt recently.
The reason they announced Maya immediately is to rattle Rama. Now everybody will be waiting for him since the Country already knows the JSC's position.

Mlambo, the man who had no problem with Thuli directing action against Zuma but tried to stop Busisiwe from doing same against Rama. I think Rama will not want any problem, he will likely bow to pressure.
Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by YEBOmadiba: 5:45pm On Feb 08, 2022
fergie001:

The reason they announced Maya immediately is to rattle Rama. Now everybody will be waiting for him since the Country already knows the JSC's position.

Mlambo, the man who had no problem with Thuli directing action against Zuma but tried to stop Busisiwe from doing same against Rama. I think Rama will not want any problem, he will likely bow to pressure.

I actually wanna see him grow some bols and standup for what he wants. We're kind of sick of his meekness. If Zondo and Mlambo will protect his presidency against the Zuma and Malema vultures (and bolster the anti-corruption agenda) then he should be steadfast in their appointment - no apologies about it.
Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by fergie001: 5:48pm On Feb 08, 2022
YEBOmadiba:
I actually wanna see him grow some bols and standup for what he wants. We're kind of sick of his meekness. If Zondo and Mlambo will protect his presidency against the Zuma and Malema vultures (and bolster the anti-corruption agenda) then he should be steadfast in their appointment - no apologies about it.

It is actually up to him. It is his DECISION to make.

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Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by morpheus101: 6:23pm On Feb 08, 2022
YEBOmadiba:


Oh lawd! Try making your answers shorter dude, like dang! shocked

No what you should do is take as much time needed to read them. You are not under any pressure to answer them immediately.

I know its frustrating but learn.

YEBOmadiba:

Anyway, do u think there was no life and enterprise before foreign nationals arrived in SA undecided According to your logic black South Africans didn't have their hair cut or goods driven around in trucks.

The above is not the point. The pint is who are the people patronizing these barber shops and hair dressing salons. If its your people., why?


YEBOmadiba:

The skills are there - they've just been overlooked for cheaper foreign slave labour - that's the main issue here.

That's the narrative that keeps getting spread as the reality. Most of the labour you are speaking of that is exploitative is mostly farm work labor and service industry jobs such as waiters, domestic workers, retail e.t.c. These are industries your people are running away from already because of the low pay and indignity.

None the less when is the last time you walked into a woolworths, pic and pay or shoprite where the cashier was a congolese, a rwandan or a Nigerian?

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Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by YEBOmadiba: 8:34pm On Feb 08, 2022
morpheus101:


No what you should do is take as much time needed to read them. You are not under any pressure to answer them immediately.

I know its frustrating but learn.

The above is not the point. The pint is who are the people patronizing these barber shops and hair dressing salons. If its your people., why?

[/sup] there are South Africans who choose to patronise, and there are others who choose not to. [sup]

That's the narrative that keeps getting spread as the reality. Most of the labour you are speaking of that is exploitative is mostly farm work labor and service industry jobs such as waiters, domestic workers, retail e.t.c. These are industries your people are running away from already because of the low pay and indignity.

[/sup] students wouldn't mind these jobs like everywhere else in the world but they've been kicked out by people who have their own countries [sup]

None the less when is the last time you walked into a woolworths, pic and pay or shoprite where the cashier was a congolese, a rwandan or a Nigerian?

[/sup] when was the last time you walked into a Chinese, Ethiopian, Somali or Nigerian shop and found a South African employed there instead Zimbabweans, Malawians and Mozambicans undecided [sup]
Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by morpheus101: 10:23pm On Feb 08, 2022
YEBOmadiba:
there are South Africans who choose to patronise, and there are others who choose not to

Then why are you complaining about them. Why don't your camouflage soldiers educate your people on how not to support "foreign" businesses and instead head to Pic and pay which is a South African establishment so they can support "South African" businessess.

YEBOmadiba:
students wouldn't mind these jobs like everywhere else in the world but they've been kicked out by people who have their own countries

Which students are you talking about. Students in university who would rather collect bursaries and sit on government loans for 4 years to come out of university waiting for jobs to be created for them. Ha! I laugh in Zulu.

YEBOmadiba:
when was the last time you walked into a Chinese, Ethiopian, Somali or Nigerian shop and found a South African employed there instead Zimbabweans, Malawians and Mozambicans

Are you jealous of the Mozambican who is employed at low wages in a Spaza shop. Immigrant communities will usually support immigrant communities because they insulate themselves from the dangers of the dominant society/population.

If I owned a shop I would employ a less priviledged personas he does not have access to the dominant society at large. Your people on the other hand can move anywhere, work anywhere, go to the banks and get loans, access any services in your country. It is your country and not ours.
Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by YEBOmadiba: 11:28am On Feb 13, 2022

Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by fergie001: 9:15am On Mar 11, 2022
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Cc TMKSouth

Yesssssssssssss.......It's Zondooo
Re: Johanesburg More Xenophobic Than Capetown. Travellers To Sa! by YEBOmadiba: 8:37pm On Mar 15, 2022
fergie001:

Cc TMKSouth

Yesssssssssssss.......It's Zondooo

Clearly Rama needs to win the ANC race in December grin

Maya being groomed, clearly.

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