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Re: Quran Error And Contradiction _part 1 by Maynman: 4:49pm On Mar 12, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Hope there's no wahala, shey? cheesy
I’m not the Christian god, I’m not used to “wahala”
Re: Quran Error And Contradiction _part 1 by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:53pm On Mar 12, 2022
Maynman:
I’m not the Christian god, I’m not used to “wahala”
So keep preaching zealously! cheesy
Re: Quran Error And Contradiction _part 1 by Maynman: 4:57pm On Mar 12, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
So keep preaching zealously! cheesy
Keep worshipping 2 evil gods from isreal. grin
Re: Quran Error And Contradiction _part 1 by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:02pm On Mar 12, 2022
Maynman:
Keep worshipping 2 evil gods from isreal. grin
No wahala! cheesy
Re: Quran Error And Contradiction _part 1 by Maynman: 5:11pm On Mar 12, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
No wahala! cheesy
The function of a good person isn’t to harm, then is a just person a good person?
Relate it to your gods.
Re: Quran Error And Contradiction _part 1 by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:19pm On Mar 12, 2022
Maynman:
The function of a good person isn’t to harm, then is a just person a good person?
Relate it to your gods.
Keep preaching zealously! cheesy
Re: Quran Error And Contradiction _part 1 by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:42pm On Mar 12, 2022
cornelboy:
Satan the devil intigated Man to disobey God and the latter was consequently exposed to the knowledge of evil.
He is just running round the circus so i decided to give him a taste of his own cake.
There's no need reasoning with him since he doesn't want reasoning! wink
Re: Quran Error And Contradiction _part 1 by mhmsadyq(m): 10:46am On Mar 13, 2022
cornelboy:
Christians are commanded to love each other (John 13:34-35) and even their enemies (Matthew 5:44). Though some may fail to fully obey this command, there are plenty of Christians who strive to live according to these commands.

Therefore, Christians love other Christians, and those Christians who know the Bible and see how Islam contradicts the Bible will also resist and reject Muhammad as being a man who falsely claimed to be a messenger from God. Thus, there are plenty of believers in God and the Last Day who love others who resist Islam.
[58:22] Al-Mujādalah-الْمُجَادَلَة
"لَا تَجِدُ قَوۡمًا یُّؤۡمِنُوۡنَ بِاللّٰہِ وَ الۡیَوۡمِ الۡاٰخِرِ یُوَآدُّوۡنَ مَنۡ حَآدَّ اللّٰہَ وَ رَسُوۡلَہٗ وَ لَوۡ کَانُوۡۤا اٰبَآءَہُمۡ اَوۡ اَبۡنَآءَہُمۡ اَوۡ اِخۡوَانَہُمۡ اَوۡ عَشِیۡرَتَہُمۡ ؕ اُولٰٓئِکَ کَتَبَ فِیۡ قُلُوۡبِہِمُ الۡاِیۡمَانَ وَ اَیَّدَہُمۡ بِرُوۡحٍ مِّنۡہُ ؕ وَ یُدۡخِلُہُمۡ جَنّٰتٍ تَجۡرِیۡ مِنۡ تَحۡتِہَا الۡاَنۡہٰرُ خٰلِدِیۡنَ فِیۡہَا ؕ رَضِیَ اللّٰہُ عَنۡہُمۡ وَ رَضُوۡا عَنۡہُ ؕ اُولٰٓئِکَ حِزۡبُ اللّٰہِ ؕ اَلَاۤ اِنَّ حِزۡبَ اللّٰہِ ہُمُ الۡمُفۡلِحُوۡنَ ﴿٪۲۲﴾

You will never find those who believe in Allah and the Day of Rising making friends with anyone who is hostile to Allah and His Messenger (blessings and peace be upon him), even though they are their fathers (and forefathers), or their sons (and grandsons), or their brothers, or their near relatives. It is they in whose hearts Allah has inscribed faith and has strengthened them with His spirit (i.e., special spiritual benefit). And He will admit them to the Gardens with streams flowing under them. They will live in them forever. Allah is pleased with them and they are pleased with Allah. It is they who are the party of (the devotees of) Allah. Remember! It is the party of (the devotees of) Allah that attain to the goal.


You are here everyday, insulting Allah, His Messenger and the Believers.
I guess that is your definition of love!

Anyways, Q58:22 is activated on you and those like you. QED!

[109:1]
"Say: ‘O disbelievers!"
[109:2]
"I do not worship that which you worship."
[109:3]
"Nor do you worship Whom I worship."
[109:4]
"And I shall never worship that which you worship."
[109:5]
"Nor will you worship Whom I worship."
[109:6]
"(So) you have your din (religion), and I have my Din (Religion).’"

I believe this chapter suffices.
Re: Quran Error And Contradiction _part 1 by cornelboy(op): 10:50am On Mar 13, 2022
MaxInDHouse:
Hope there's no wahala, shey? cheesy
Justice is now the antonym of punishment and vegeance. The guy foolish die
Re: Quran Error And Contradiction _part 1 by cornelboy(op): 11:06am On Mar 13, 2022
mhmsadyq:
You are here everyday, insulting Allah, His Messenger and the Believers.
I guess that is your definition of love!

Anyways, Q58:22 is activated on you and those like you. QED!

[109:1]
"Say: ‘O disbelievers!"
[109:2]
"I do not worship that which you worship."
[109:3]
"Nor do you worship Whom I worship."
[109:4]
"And I shall never worship that which you worship."
[109:5]
"Nor will you worship Whom I worship."
[109:6]
"(So) you have your Din (RELIGION), and I have my din (religion).’"

I believe this chapter suffices.
Go read your Koran well. Jews and christians are not disbelievers or pagans cheesy

I'm actually doing you good by exposing your false prophet. It's love!
Mohammed was a pseudo and sinful prophet and your Allah is not the God of Moses and Jesus and christians smiley
Re: Quran Error And Contradiction _part 1 by Maynman: 11:14am On Mar 13, 2022
cornelboy:
Go read your Koran well. Jews and christians are not disbelievers or pagans cheesy

I'm actually doing you good by exposing your false prophet. It's love!
Mohammed was a pseudo and sinful prophet and your Allah is not the God of Moses and Jesus and christians smiley
Was Jesus ever a Christian? Which religion did he worship? Judaism. What’s Judaism? grin the Moses you mentioned which religion did he practiced? grin

Re: Quran Error And Contradiction _part 1 by mhmsadyq(m): 11:57am On Mar 13, 2022
cornelboy:
Go read your Koran well. Jews and christians are not disbelievers or pagans cheesy

I'm actually doing you good by exposing your false prophet. It's love!
Mohammed was a pseudo and sinful prophet and your Allah is not the God of Moses and Jesus and christians smiley
Unfortunately, i don't have the luxury of disbelieve which you bask in. So, i can't speak despicably like you do.

@Maynman is also doing you good since you opened this thread.

You can continue with him.
I am following...
Re: Quran Error And Contradiction _part 1 by cornelboy(op): 1:03pm On Mar 13, 2022
mhmsadyq:
Unfortunately, i don't have the luxury of disbelieve which you bask in. So, i can't speak despicably like you do.

@Maynman is also doing you good since you opened this thread.

You can continue with him.
I am following...
Keep following and see how foolish and unreasonable he is!

Incase you are not aware, he's an atheist and doesn't believe in the Bible God and your God Allah.

He's just here peddling foolishness
Re: Quran Error And Contradiction _part 1 by Maynman: 1:10pm On Mar 13, 2022
cornelboy:
Keep following and see how foolish and unreasonable he is!

Incase you are not aware, he's an atheist and doesn't believe in the Bible God and your God Allah.

He's just here peddling foolishness
I do believe in myself, I’m a god! shocked
But you don’t believe in yourself, you believe in 2 evil isreal gods, you are a pagan. You believe and worship The Judaist god of the Old Testament and the Christian god of the New Testament

Re: Quran Error And Contradiction _part 1 by mhmsadyq(m): 2:48pm On Mar 13, 2022
cornelboy:
Keep following and see how foolish and unreasonable he is!

Incase you are not aware, he's an atheist and doesn't believe in the Bible God and your God Allah.

He's just here peddling foolishness
You don't need to say it.

He is doing you good by exposing your false beliefs. Different strokes...
Hope you agree with him.

I am sure if he ever had a religion, it was Christianity. So, he can't be wrong!

Most Atheists at least on NL were once Christians.
Re: Quran Error And Contradiction _part 1 by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:18pm On Mar 13, 2022
cornelboy:
Keep following and see how foolish and unreasonable he is!
Incase you are not aware, he's an atheist and doesn't believe in the Bible God and your God Allah.
He's just here peddling foolishness
My enemy's enemy is automatically my friend! grin
Re: Quran Error And Contradiction _part 1 by cornelboy(op): 7:07pm On Mar 13, 2022
mhmsadyq:
You don't need to say it.

He is doing you good by exposing your false beliefs. Different strokes...
Hope you agree with him.

I am sure if he ever had a religion, it was Christianity. So, he can't be wrong!

Most Atheists at least on NL were once Christians.
Okay.
So when atheist try to prove that Jesus was a myth not a real person, you are okay with it right?

The guy hasn't done anything tangible.

Once again the Koran confirmed that Muslims, christians and Jews serve the same God, Mohammed repeatedly encourage christians and Jews to follow their revealed book from their Lord.....
And mind you, the Bible was available in Mohammed's time, definitely the Bible wasn't corrupted then. Why would you think it was corrupted now?
Re: Quran Error And Contradiction _part 1 by cornelboy(op): 7:10pm On Mar 13, 2022
Maynman:
I do believe in myself, I’m a god! shocked
But you don’t believe in yourself, you believe in 2 evil isreal gods, you are a pagan. You believe and worship The Judaist god of the Old Testament and the Christian god of the New Testament
Mhmsadyq
Really, is that who you supported?
He's MaynMan (approximately madman)
Re: Quran Error And Contradiction _part 1 by mhmsadyq(m): 8:31pm On Mar 13, 2022
cornelboy:
Okay.
So when atheist try to prove that Jesus was a myth not a real person, you are okay with it right?
Don't bother about me. I am only an observer.

cornelboy:
The guy hasn't done anything tangible.
Exactly like you haven't against Islam.

cornelboy:
Once again the Koran confirmed that Muslims, christians and Jews serve the same God, Mohammed repeatedly encourage christians and Jews to follow their revealed book from their Lord.....
Is any Muslim denying this?
Because the Prophet was sent by the same God that sent other Prophets of the Torah and Injil.
[2:136] Al-Baqarah-الْبَقَرَة
"قُوۡلُوۡۤا اٰمَنَّا بِاللّٰہِ وَ مَاۤ اُنۡزِلَ اِلَیۡنَا وَ مَاۤ اُنۡزِلَ اِلٰۤی اِبۡرٰہٖمَ وَ اِسۡمٰعِیۡلَ وَ اِسۡحٰقَ وَ یَعۡقُوۡبَ وَ الۡاَسۡبَاطِ وَ مَاۤ اُوۡتِیَ مُوۡسٰی وَ عِیۡسٰی وَ مَاۤ اُوۡتِیَ النَّبِیُّوۡنَ مِنۡ رَّبِّہِمۡ ۚ لَا نُفَرِّقُ بَیۡنَ اَحَدٍ مِّنۡہُمۡ ۫ۖ وَ نَحۡنُ لَہٗ مُسۡلِمُوۡنَ ﴿۱۳۶﴾

(O Muslims!) Say: ‘We believe in Allah and in that (Book) which has been revealed to us and (also) that which was revealed to Ibrahim (Abraham) and Isma‘il (Ishmael) and Ishaq (Isaac) and Ya‘qub (Jacob) and their children and those (Books) too which were given to Musa (Moses) and ‘Isa (Jesus) and (likewise) which were given to other Prophets by their Lord. We do not make distinction between any of them (in the matter of faith), and we have submitted ourselves to Him alone (the Only, the One God).’
[2:137] Al-Baqarah-الْبَقَرَة
"فَاِنۡ اٰمَنُوۡا بِمِثۡلِ مَاۤ اٰمَنۡتُمۡ بِہٖ فَقَدِ اہۡتَدَوۡا ۚ وَ اِنۡ تَوَلَّوۡا فَاِنَّمَا ہُمۡ فِیۡ شِقَاقٍ ۚ فَسَیَکۡفِیۡکَہُمُ اللّٰہُ ۚ وَ ہُوَ السَّمِیۡعُ الۡعَلِیۡمُ ﴿۱۳۷﴾ؕ

Then if they (also) believe the way you have believed in Him, then they will (surely) be guided aright. And if they turn away, then (be clear) that they are sunk in sheer enmity. So Allah is sufficient to guard you against their evil and He is All-Hearing, All-Knowing.

cornelboy:
And mind you, the Bible was available in Mohammed's time, definitely the Bible wasn't corrupted then. Why would you think it was corrupted now?
The bible was corrupted even during the time of the Prophet:

[2:79] Al-Baqarah-الْبَقَرَة
"فَوَیۡلٌ لِّلَّذِیۡنَ یَکۡتُبُوۡنَ الۡکِتٰبَ بِاَیۡدِیۡہِمۡ ٭ ثُمَّ یَقُوۡلُوۡنَ ہٰذَا مِنۡ عِنۡدِ اللّٰہِ لِیَشۡتَرُوۡا بِہٖ ثَمَنًا قَلِیۡلًا ؕ فَوَیۡلٌ لَّہُمۡ مِّمَّا کَتَبَتۡ اَیۡدِیۡہِمۡ وَ وَیۡلٌ لَّہُمۡ مِّمَّا یَکۡسِبُوۡنَ ﴿۷۹﴾

So, a serious disaster awaits those who write the Book with their own hands, then say: ‘This is from Allah,’ just to earn a paltry price for that. So they will face destruction (owing to the Book) that their hands have written and (for the compensation) that they are earning.


The need for the Qur'an.
Re: Quran Error And Contradiction _part 1 by mhmsadyq(m): 8:39pm On Mar 13, 2022
cornelboy:
Mhmsadyq
Really, is that who you supported?
I think he is doing you good by exposing your false beliefs.
cornelboy:
He's MaynMan (approximately madman)
Can i also say the same about you?

You have said worse thing about Islam too.
Re: Quran Error And Contradiction _part 1 by cornelboy(op): 10:17pm On Mar 13, 2022
mhmsadyq:
I think he is doing you good by exposing your false beliefs.

Can i also say the same about you?

You have said worse thing about Islam too.
Your brother AntiChristian, what's has he been saying about the Bible and christians?

You Muslims say the Bible is corrupt but it keeps exposing your prophet as a sinful pseudo prophet that violates God's sacred laws.
Re: Quran Error And Contradiction _part 1 by cornelboy(op): 11:24pm On Mar 13, 2022
Don't bother about me. I am only an observer
Alright keep observing

Exactly like you haven't against Islam.
That's not right.
Mohammed violated too many laws of Moses and lived a sinful life and even brought conflicting laws. So he can't be a true prophet of Jehovah God of Moses Jesus and Israel.

Is any Muslim denying this?
Because the Prophet was sent by the same God that sent other Prophets of the Torah and Injil.
Yeah but why did christians and Jews not believe in him?
Cos his lifestyle didn't match that of a TRUE prophet of YHWH GOD. And his teachings are conflicting with that of Moses and Jesus.

The bible was corrupted even during the time of the Prophet:
The Koran never mentioned that the injeel or Torah is corrupt and some of the Bible books have been written many hundreds of years before Mohammed was.

The need for the Qur'an.
Literally the Koran was written by men with hand, are they awaiting disaster too?

How are you so sure that the Koran wasn't corrupted?
mhmsadyq:
[2:136] Al-Baqarah-الْبَقَرَة
"قُوۡلُوۡۤا اٰمَنَّا بِاللّٰہِ وَ مَاۤ اُنۡزِلَ اِلَیۡنَا وَ مَاۤ اُنۡزِلَ اِلٰۤی اِبۡرٰہٖمَ وَ اِسۡمٰعِیۡلَ وَ اِسۡحٰقَ وَ یَعۡقُوۡبَ وَ الۡاَسۡبَاطِ وَ مَاۤ اُوۡتِیَ مُوۡسٰی وَ عِیۡسٰی وَ مَاۤ اُوۡتِیَ النَّبِیُّوۡنَ مِنۡ رَّبِّہِمۡ ۚ لَا نُفَرِّقُ بَیۡنَ اَحَدٍ مِّنۡہُمۡ ۫ۖ وَ نَحۡنُ لَہٗ مُسۡلِمُوۡنَ ﴿۱۳۶﴾

(O Muslims!) Say: ‘We believe in Allah and in that (Book) which has been revealed to us and (also) that which was revealed to Ibrahim (Abraham) and Isma‘il (Ishmael) and Ishaq (Isaac) and Ya‘qub (Jacob) and their children and those (Books) too which were given to Musa (Moses) and ‘Isa (Jesus) and (likewise) which were given to other Prophets by their Lord. We do not make distinction between any of them (in the matter of faith), and we have submitted ourselves to Him alone (the Only, the One God).’
[2:137] Al-Baqarah-الْبَقَرَة
"فَاِنۡ اٰمَنُوۡا بِمِثۡلِ مَاۤ اٰمَنۡتُمۡ بِہٖ فَقَدِ اہۡتَدَوۡا ۚ وَ اِنۡ تَوَلَّوۡا فَاِنَّمَا ہُمۡ فِیۡ شِقَاقٍ ۚ فَسَیَکۡفِیۡکَہُمُ اللّٰہُ ۚ وَ ہُوَ السَّمِیۡعُ الۡعَلِیۡمُ ﴿۱۳۷﴾ؕ

Then if they (also) believe the way you have believed in Him, then they will (surely) be guided aright. And if they turn away, then (be clear) that they are sunk in sheer enmity. So Allah is sufficient to guard you against their evil and He is All-Hearing, All-Knowing.





[2:79] Al-Baqarah-الْبَقَرَة
"فَوَیۡلٌ لِّلَّذِیۡنَ یَکۡتُبُوۡنَ الۡکِتٰبَ بِاَیۡدِیۡہِمۡ ٭ ثُمَّ یَقُوۡلُوۡنَ ہٰذَا مِنۡ عِنۡدِ اللّٰہِ لِیَشۡتَرُوۡا بِہٖ ثَمَنًا قَلِیۡلًا ؕ فَوَیۡلٌ لَّہُمۡ مِّمَّا کَتَبَتۡ اَیۡدِیۡہِمۡ وَ وَیۡلٌ لَّہُمۡ مِّمَّا یَکۡسِبُوۡنَ ﴿۷۹﴾

So, a serious disaster awaits those who write the Book with their own hands, then say: ‘This is from Allah,’ just to earn a paltry price for that. So they will face destruction (owing to the Book) that their hands have written and (for the compensation) that they are earning.
Re: Quran Error And Contradiction _part 1 by AntiChristian: 8:05am On Mar 14, 2022
cornelboy:
Your brother AntiChristian, what's has he been saying about the Bible and christians?
I have been exposing the truth about the happenings in your Bible that you fail to understand.

You Muslims say the Bible is corrupt but it keeps exposing your prophet as a sinful pseudo prophet that violates God's sacred laws.
How did the Bible expose that?

In Numbers 31:40, Jehovah got 32 virgins as His share of war booty when all the family members have been killed and only virgins were left behind.

I did ask you how virgins were detected back then which you refused to answer!
Re: Quran Error And Contradiction _part 1 by mhmsadyq(m): 12:07pm On Mar 14, 2022
cornelboy:
Alright keep observing


That's not right.
Mohammed violated too many laws of Moses and lived a sinful life and even brought conflicting laws. So he can't be a true prophet of Jehovah God of Moses Jesus and Israel.


Yeah but why did christians and Jews not believe in him?
Cos his lifestyle didn't match that of a TRUE prophet of YHWH GOD. And his teachings are conflicting with that of Moses and Jesus.


The Koran never mentioned that the injeel or Torah is corrupt and some of the Bible books have been written many hundreds of years before Mohammed was.


Literally the Koran was written by men with hand, are they awaiting disaster too?

How are you so sure that the Koran wasn't corrupted?
Ok.
Continue...
Re: Quran Error And Contradiction _part 1 by cornelboy(op): 11:07pm On Mar 14, 2022
I have been exposing the truth about the happenings in your Bible that you fail to understand.
Keep up the good work smiley

How did the Bible expose that?
Jesus teaching on divorce;
Matthew 5:32
[32]But I say that a man who divorces his wife, unless she has been unfaithful (unchaste, adulterous), causes her to commit adultery. And anyone who marries a divorced woman also commits adultery.

The story of Zaid, Zaynab and Mohammed contradicts God's divine law and teaching of Jesus.
So Mohammed wasn't sent from the God of earlier prophet as he claimed. He's a false prophet!

In Numbers 31:40, Jehovah got 32 virgins as His share of war booty when all the family members have been killed and only virgins were left behind.
Yeah?

I did ask you how virgins were detected back then which you refused to answer!
Of course they had their ways but I don't know.
[quote author=AntiChristian post=111018762][/quote]
Re: Quran Error And Contradiction _part 1 by AntiChristian: 8:41am On Mar 15, 2022
cornelboy:
Jesus teaching on divorce;
Matthew 5:32
[32]But I say that a man who divorces his wife, unless she has been unfaithful (unchaste, adulterous), causes her to commit adultery. And anyone who marries a divorced woman also commits adultery.

The story of Zaid, Zaynab and Mohammed contradicts God's divine law and teaching of Jesus.
So Mohammed wasn't sent from the God of earlier prophet as he claimed. He's a false prophet!
This is great! Let's us know the story but you should include an authentic reference.

Heads up!
Imam Ibn Katheer (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

Ibn Jareer and Ibn Abi Naatim narrated reports from some of the salaf (may Allaah be pleased with them) which we would like to ignore completely, because they are not saheeh (authentic), so we will not quote them.
Tafseer Ibn Katheer (6/424).
Re: Quran Error And Contradiction _part 1 by cornelboy(op): 9:25pm On Mar 15, 2022
AntiChristian:
This is great! Let's us know the story but you should include an authentic reference.

Heads up!
Imam Ibn Katheer (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

Ibn Jareer and Ibn Abi Naatim narrated reports from some of the salaf (may Allaah be pleased with them) which we would like to ignore completely, because they are not saheeh (authentic), so we will not quote them.
Tafseer Ibn Katheer (6/424).
Why don't you bring the story with the authentic references if you have access to them?
Re: Quran Error And Contradiction _part 1 by AntiChristian: 9:04am On Mar 16, 2022
cornelboy:
Why don't you bring the story with the authentic references if you have access to them?
No! I will like you to crucify yourself with your own stake!
Re: Quran Error And Contradiction _part 1 by cornelboy(op): 10:31am On Mar 16, 2022
AntiChristian:
No! I will like you to crucify yourself with your own stake!
This is you stake not mine. Ain't a Muslim.
Re: Quran Error And Contradiction _part 1 by AntiChristian: 10:57am On Mar 16, 2022
cornelboy:
This is you stake not mine. Ain't a Muslim.
Bring your claims with proofs! Make sure your claims are authentic. That your claim was from one person's book!
Re: Quran Error And Contradiction _part 1 by cornelboy(op): 10:40pm On Mar 16, 2022
AntiChristian:
Bring your claims with proofs! Make sure your claims are authentic. That your claim was from one person's book!
I did that already it's your responsibility to refute it by bringing the authentic hadiths or whatever
Re: Quran Error And Contradiction _part 1 by AntiChristian: 8:23am On Mar 17, 2022
cornelboy:
I did that already it's your responsibility to refute it by bringing the authentic hadiths or whatever
No! Any claim you bring from story Book will be rejected. Did you even study referencing at all?
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