ityP:



No one is going to do this bro. The East are not ready on either PDP or APC

Kingozymandias:
It's not the turn of the Southsouth, it's the turn of the southeast.
The silence of the Southeast should worry everyone .. rightfully it's our turn to elad this great nation.. we are not more bedeviled with problems than any other tribe yet we are being denied our rightful shot at the fixing this nation .
Some people have asked me have we fixed the southeast ? I laugh because other regions have ruled yet they are still battling myriad problems so why are my people being denied our turn?

Salty suddenly zoning that has been used by every region to secure the slot has been jettisoned now it's the turn of my people and it Futher makes us feel disenfranchised and and marginalized.

Then tomorrow you turn around and wonder why sesssionists had such a willing ear in the people to listen?

You can't deny a people their rights and make them feel less and expect them to willingly want to stay in Nigeria .. that is wrong and tantamount to bullying.

Who in his or her right conscience can say it's not the turn of the Igbos ? Please who can in good honest faith say this ?

Why push a people so hard to the point just telling yourself they can do nothing ? Really ? A nation can never be built by brute force but by inter Corporations and unity. Let me tell you my fellow NIGERIANS , IPOB didn't have up to 10% of the Igbo people support forget those iliterate touts and their social media propaganda. But to deny my people our right this time around for whatever reason is telling the remaining 90% of us who rejected ipob that maybe just maybe those touts have a point.

Yes power isn't given ,yes I agree but as ever other region had it zoned to them and a consensus picked so should it be done for the Southeast. To deny us our right is to do what Chinese is doing to Taiwan, to do what Israel doing to Palestine, to do what ImUAE is doing to shites..

Forget whatever we tell ourselves, each and every one of you my fellow country men and women know it's the turn of my people. I would have taught the great Asiwaju a defender of justice would have picked an Igbo man as his chosen candidate, that would have sent the message that he recodnizes that's it's rightfully our turn and that he stands for justice.

Anyways it's his right to run for office but like I said, to deny us is going to send a very strong message to every single Igbo man, woman ,boy and girl child that we are not recodnized and wanted in this country and I am afraid that would have a very dire repercussions in inter ethnic relations . I don't think buhari is in support of it not being an Igbo person infact I am shocked to admit from his a tions one can deduce he feels rightly it should be an Igbo person..

Alas time will tell

deeLima86:
Imagine his myopic way of reasoning. So Nigeria will not function again if the north make up their mind to allow the presidency come from another region after 8yrs of Buhari failure??

Nemere2020:

https://thenationonlineng.net/just-in-southsouth-cannot-win-pdp-presidency-says-tambuwal/

Kingozymandias:
It's not the turn of the Southsouth, it's the turn of the southeast.
The silence of the Southeast should worry everyone .. rightfully it's our turn to elad this great nation.. we are not more bedeviled with problems than any other tribe yet we are being denied our rightful shot at the fixing this nation .
Some people have asked me have we fixed the southeast ? I laugh because other regions have ruled yet they are still battling myriad problems so why are my people being denied our turn?

Salty suddenly zoning that has been used by every region to secure the slot has been jettisoned now it's the turn of my people and it Futher makes us feel disenfranchised and and marginalized.

Then tomorrow you turn around and wonder why sesssionists had such a willing ear in the people to listen?

You can't deny a people their rights and make them feel less and expect them to willingly want to stay in Nigeria .. that is wrong and tantamount to bullying.

Who in his or her right conscience can say it's not the turn of the Igbos ? Please who can in good honest faith say this ?

Why push a people so hard to the point just telling yourself they can do nothing ? Really ? A nation can never be built by brute force but by inter Corporations and unity. Let me tell you my fellow NIGERIANS , IPOB didn't have up to 10% of the Igbo people support forget those iliterate touts and their social media propaganda. But to deny my people our right this time around for whatever reason is telling the remaining 90% of us who rejected ipob that maybe just maybe those touts have a point.

Yes power isn't given ,yes I agree but as ever other region had it zoned to them and a consensus picked so should it be done for the Southeast. To deny us our right is to do what Chinese is doing to Taiwan, to do what Israel doing to Palestine, to do what ImUAE is doing to shites..

Forget whatever we tell ourselves, each and every one of you my fellow country men and women know it's the turn of my people. I would have taught the great Asiwaju a defender of justice would have picked an Igbo man as his chosen candidate, that would have sent the message that he recodnizes that's it's rightfully our turn and that he stands for justice.

Anyways it's his right to run for office but like I said, to deny us is going to send a very strong message to every single Igbo man, woman ,boy and girl child that we are not recodnized and wanted in this country and I am afraid that would have a very dire repercussions in inter ethnic relations . I don't think buhari is in support of it not being an Igbo person infact I am shocked to admit from his a tions one can deduce he feels rightly it should be an Igbo person..

Alas time will tell

Kingozymandias:
It's not the turn of the Southsouth, it's the turn of the southeast.
The silence of the Southeast should worry everyone .. rightfully it's our turn to elad this great nation.. we are not more bedeviled with problems than any other tribe yet we are being denied our rightful shot at the fixing this nation .
Some people have asked me have we fixed the southeast ? I laugh because other regions have ruled yet they are still battling myriad problems so why are my people being denied our turn?

Salty suddenly zoning that has been used by every region to secure the slot has been jettisoned now it's the turn of my people and it Futher makes us feel disenfranchised and and marginalized.

Then tomorrow you turn around and wonder why sesssionists had such a willing ear in the people to listen?

You can't deny a people their rights and make them feel less and expect them to willingly want to stay in Nigeria .. that is wrong and tantamount to bullying.

Who in his or her right conscience can say it's not the turn of the Igbos ? Please who can in good honest faith say this ?

Why push a people so hard to the point just telling yourself they can do nothing ? Really ? A nation can never be built by brute force but by inter Corporations and unity. Let me tell you my fellow NIGERIANS , IPOB didn't have up to 10% of the Igbo people support forget those iliterate touts and their social media propaganda. But to deny my people our right this time around for whatever reason is telling the remaining 90% of us who rejected ipob that maybe just maybe those touts have a point.

Yes power isn't given ,yes I agree but as ever other region had it zoned to them and a consensus picked so should it be done for the Southeast. To deny us our right is to do what Chinese is doing to Taiwan, to do what Israel doing to Palestine, to do what ImUAE is doing to shites..

Forget whatever we tell ourselves, each and every one of you my fellow country men and women know it's the turn of my people. I would have taught the great Asiwaju a defender of justice would have picked an Igbo man as his chosen candidate, that would have sent the message that he recodnizes that's it's rightfully our turn and that he stands for justice.

Anyways it's his right to run for office but like I said, to deny us is going to send a very strong message to every single Igbo man, woman ,boy and girl child that we are not recodnized and wanted in this country and I am afraid that would have a very dire repercussions in inter ethnic relations . I don't think buhari is in support of it not being an Igbo person infact I am shocked to admit from his a tions one can deduce he feels rightly it should be an Igbo person..

Alas time will tell

post=111260828:


SOUTH EAST: IS IT NOT TOO LATE?

I have read the recent transmissions by Senator Bukola Saraki directed at my Igbo tribe. I have deliberately kept mum on this as I had earlier resolved to speak less on Igbos as regards the 2019 Elections and 2023 Presidency having said quite a bit. 

However seeing as some of my brethren have swallowed the cheap bait, I will chip this in just to keep the reality before us, at least for posterity sake. Truth is bitter but it's still the best medicine. 

My people say; 'He who does not remember where the rain started beating him, will not remember where it stopped'. 

REWIND TO 2014. 
A new National Party was being conceived. Political Parties, political players and Regions were being wooed to the new alliance. 

'We' Igbos (read South East) vehemently refused to touch it even with a long pole. We packaged, sold to ourselves and bought the baseless propaganda that it was an Islamic alliance that would birth an "Islamic" and "Hausa" Party. Simply because those our brethren heavily invested in the PDP at the time were afraid of losing their vested selfish interests.
Till today I'm still trying to fathom the basis for that wicked and twisted deceit especially as many of those Igbo elites who sold that dummy have since ported to the same APC.

We failed to even identify with that new Alliance. Hence the Party, APC was birthed without any remarkable input from us or presence. The few amongst us who aligned were called all kinds of names and abused to high heavens by us even when they were proven right afterall.

Thus the few Igbos who were part of it were at best fringe players as they didn't have the required clout to make serious demands and do the necessary political wheeling and dealing required in Politics to strike the hard bargains since politics is all about interests and numbers. They were even suspect, so much so that it was only their personal political sagacity that gave them whatever they got.

That Party went on to win the Presidential Election which in truth, most of us never believed it could or would, because of our half baked permutations and poor understanding of Nigerian politics. But it did. 

Curiously we turned up at the fore front of telling this same Party how it should share it's 'spoils of war'. We became hypocritical moral champions with an over bloated sense of entitlement. Who does that, in all political reality and practicality? But we did, even while vehemently and vociferously still refusing to shift our position, style and rhethoric.

We dug in. Supported every bad thing and person against the Party, the elected President and the Administration while denying any and every good done to and for our Region.

Fast forward to where we are today. Almost four years after the 2015 misadventure, we have stayed put at 2015, refusing to move forward, refusing to shift grounds, refusing to play pragmatic politics, telling ourselves the same lies we cooked and bought in 2015 and some more. 

Now barely 5 months to another election, we have started again saying "APC cannot give Presidency to Igbos in 2023". "Buhari cannot hand over to an Igbo man because Buhari hates Igbos". "APC is deceiving you", bla bla bla.

Of course. We will believe Saraki, who has only but a fanthom dream of becoming President and whose only known record is selfishness but we can't believe Buhari who's already President and who has a record of voluntarily picking two great Igbo sons as running mates in the past? Chukwu aju.

It is interesting and vital to note here that the PDP which many of us still proudly support and adore was in power for 16 solid years and in those years there were 4 Presidential Inaugurations and on none of those was an Igbo man found worthy by the PDP of even Vice Presidency and we are still bold to say it is the APC that has not even finished one and a half tenure that doesn't want to give power to Igbos. Odi nma. 

NOW; Seriously, let's be sincere. As things stand today politically, why would the APC even hand power to us Igbos in 2023? 
On what grounds? 
On what records?
On what politics?
Is power given to anyone? 
Is it an appeasement or a gift? 

The APC is a political party. The main focus of a political Party is to hold power and keep it to enable it deliver on its agenda. So if the APC reads that the SE does not want the Presidency or does not have the capacity to help them win and keep power, they will stick with the regions that can and work with individuals who are interested. 

Make no mistake, I have always said, I do not blame us Igbos for the decision majority of us took in 2015. It's our right. But continuing to pretend that it was other regions, Buhari or the APC that made us do what we did then or remain where we are today is purely self deceit and I refuse to play that ostrich game. 

As far back as 2014, I and many others made that argument that Igbo Presidency was very feasible in 2023, ONLY under under the APC, ONLY IF we did a couple of things right politically. I personally continued to speak loudly on that even after the 2015 elections until when I realized that we were not ready to play the politics that was required and now I dare say it may be too late. Or is it not? Time will tell.

For now, we can continue to tell ourselves that we cannot hold the Presidency of Nigeria. I heard and read many of our brethren go from PDP to Biafra/seccesion (read IPOB) to Referendum to "Igbos do not need Presidency but Restructuring" etc forgetting that all that didn't lie squarely with us alone. We think other regions are not reading our body language?

I really don't care what Saraki writes or says because they've all come to realize that it's very easy to play us like a flute. So like Saraki, like Fani Kayode, like Fayose, like Atiku, even Jonah Jang of all people, they keep playing us.

I've learnt not to bother myself anymore to avoid unnecessary mentions from nonentities.
As some of us have said, it's good governance we want, even if only one village will be producing the Presidents. So be it.

Ka Chineke mezie okwu. 

David4best:
But Goodluck Jonathan defeated Buhari with a very large margin in 2011 presidential election where majority of Muslims voted for Buhari and majority of Christians voted for Goodluck Jonathan.(i.e the voting was purely along regional and religious lines) Nigerians have short memories

unite4real:


Ask what MKO Abiola did to Tofa.

There are many in the south that command more respect and followers in the North than even Tambuwal and Atiku

oyatainer:


No region trusts you except SS and you play politics of bitterness. Tribalism and extremism have deeply eaten down your system. You believe nothing good can come out of Fulani - Hausa-Muslims lives but want them to vote for you. You believe so much in Biafra but you still want presidency of zoo. I don't know where supposed human will stoop so low to govern animal kingdom in zoo.

Titogbanski:
South East can win if both parties can pick their Presidential candidates from the South East...just as it was done in the 1999 elections were both parties picked their candidates from the West as a way of addressing the ill-feelings brought about by the annulment of the June 12 elections

post=111260824:
YEMI OSINBANJO.
A MAN OF THE PEOPLE.

God bless our amiable Vice president Prof Yemi Osinbajo.

The man wey sabi....

STARBOY AND ZULUM 2023.

All sane, honest and hardworking Nigerians dey una back gidigba......


Thanks Chief Kay!
We can see you want the progress of our nation,
Unlike some people (dem know themselves )

Btw, we no be brother o,
We are simply WE.


STARBOY AND ZULUM we want.

STARBOY AND ZULUM we shall get come 2023.

We have not offended anyone by Supporting Osinbajo, but anyone who takes our decision personal should kindly chill out!

The last thing we will do as Progressives is to engage is a smear campaign or promote any post that can lead to the Character Assassination of Tinubu or any other Contender of the APC Ticket.

We are MANNA, and WE STAND WITH PROFESSOR YEMI OSINBAJO until the party says otherwise.

Thanks.


***************** **************** ************** ****************

God bless our Vice President.
Our incoming President in Jesus name,
Insha Allah.




A better Nigeria all around is all we want.
A better Nigeria all around is what we shall encounter.
Nigeria will succeed.
God bless Nigeria.


Our own @MANNABBGRILLS come 2023 be say :

Starboy and Zulum for 2023.


Our own @[/b] be say : STARBOY & Zulum for 2023.

Osinbajo, The great Man.

Our own @[b] be say : STARBOY and ZULUM all da Way.

Come 2023 BGG,
STARBOY and ZULUM we dey for una.
Whether the evil ones like it or not,
Nigeria will succeed.


Our Combo is actually a well selected great Combo to move our nation forward.
That being said,,
Chief Topmaike,
We no too know about this APC revalidation tin o.
We are not actually a card carrying member of any political party in Nigeria.
The only 2 guys we love in Naija politics are our darling Daddy and his amiable Vice.
Now, Zulum has joined the rank.
We only go to the polls on election day to cast our votes for good, honest men that meant well for the nation, no matter the party they are.
And you don't have to be a party member to do that.

But in the past one month, we have noticed how all the top big wigs and non-politicians alike are all joining APC in their various Constituencies, from Governors, to Businesses owners and Entrepreneurs.
We are looking and researching about the good ones among them already.


We sane, good, honest and hardworking Nigerians will do all in our power to make this Combo work.
That is why we all must come together.

Nigeria will be great again in our lifetime


We Love him too.
Only fraudsters, criminals, thieves and losers in life don't like him obviously .
The same nuisances that do not like sane, good and honest members here.
Two time losers.

God bless our amiable Vice president Prof Yemi Osinbajo.
God bless Nigeria.

Our own @[/b] be say : [b]STARBOY and ZULUM all da Way.

Come 2023 BGG,
STARBOY and ZULUM we dey for una.
Whether the evil ones like it or not,
Nigeria will succeed.


We sane, good, honest and hardworking Nigerians will do all in our power to make this Combo work.
That is why we all must come together.

Nigeria will be great again in our lifetime

PYO : Man of the people.... Sane people we mean.
Sane, honest and hardworking Nigerians.


Now, clap for yasef


God bless you too crucial gem
You are truly a rare gem on this forum.


If you are a progressive and the person that pray for the good of Nigeria,
We will say, you are a great man!




Gbamsolutely! You've said it all.
Those are the same Igbos calling him a mere commissioner and house boy for the last 6 years.
We have been declaring and supporting STARBOY and Zulum for the past 3 years, they never commented or support our posts, but suddenly, since last week Monday that JAGABAN OF AFRICA declared,
They started shouting Osinbajo's name.
Hypocritical mofos and cannibals everywhere.
Wailers are hypocrites, as we've always said here.

They are still waiting for dem Atiku to declare,


God bless our darling STARBOY and JAGABAN The King maker.
We know 100% if not for JAGABAN Bogu, along with the ALMIGHTY GOD's Power,
Our Darling Daddy and our amiable Vice president Prof Yemi Osinbajo wouldn't be where they are since 2015.
Despite the billions that the looting criminals spent.,
They still lost woefully.





Seun lalasticlala mynd44 Dominique justwise rocktation rule 11 rule 18

simpleseyi:


South-South or South-East can.

Presidency must come to the South, be it Ijaw, Ibiobio, Itshekiri, Igbos, Ikwerre, Yoruba, Benin or whomsoever, it must come to the South. Anybody that says otherwise will die before the next election. Ogun, Sango, Oya and Obatala will kill anybody that opposes zoning the Presidency to the South.

SO, let PDP zone it to the South first. APC too will zone it to the South. We in the South will knw how to sort ourselves.

SmartPolician:


Nigeria didn't have an opposition party in 2011. The day a serious opposition was created, Jonathan was defeated. If the PDP wants to take over power, they must make a northerner a flagbearer. That's the bitter truth.

bigcasava1:
so other regions don't have better candidate?

ityP:



This is not 1993 o. Be calming down. Atiku's results in the last election, despite facing off with a northern god speaks a lot

oyatainer:


No region trusts you except SS and you play politics of bitterness. Tribalism and extremism have deeply eaten down your system. You believe nothing good can come out of Fulani - Hausa-Muslims lives but want them to vote for you. You believe so much in Biafra but you still want presidency of zoo. I don't know where supposed human will stoop so low to govern animal kingdom in zoo.

heniford2:
2023 if them no give eastern presidency we no dey vote anything

Reference:


But there are terror organisations in the north who have denounced Nigeria, killed hundreds of thousands, destroyed whole swathes of territories, cost the economy trillions of naira, threatened to create a Caliphate (a state in a state) and stood against the liberties and prospects most southerners cherish, yet it has not been imputed against the entire north.

Oga. Your position lies flat.
Don't let me say it is hypocritical.

IamNat:




At the bolded is what I think is the issue and the main reason why the southeast might not get the presidency anytime soon. Your people have not come to the understanding of the fact that not ever will any region step down for another region to have the floor.

You can go back and look at the history since 1999, even when presidency is zoned to a certain region, other candidates from other region still contested against them. It is the alliance that the region favoured by zoning had with other regions that got them presidency not because it was zoned to their region.

You can't just expect that no one else will contest against the southeast because the southeast is favoured by zoning, rather, the southeast should form alliances with other regions and not abuse them or call them slaves. When Tinubu formed an alliance with Buhari in 2015, the Yorubas were constantly been abused and called slaves of the Fulanis, this went on for more than 7yrs now and now when it's time to reap the fruit of their labour (forming the alliance and been abused for several years) you expect them to stay back and watch you clinch the president without any fight?

How many Igbo as boldly come out to say they want to be president and have started working for it? The southwest you keep on seeing pdp and apc winning elections in different states, they don't put all their eggs in one basket, do you expect APC that doesn't have any form of support to in the southeast to just give their party's presidential ticket out to a southeasterner? Where will such a person get the votes from, or the Yorubas that have been abused for the past 8yrs for forming an alliance with the north should now be the one to vote for the southeasterner? It doesn't work like that.

If only the Igbos stop hating the Yorubas for what-have-them reasons and let's work together, we(Southeast and southwest) can continually produce more presidents than the north.

Reference:


The East doesn't have the numbers.
It can only happen as someone above said, if the two parties zone the ticket to that region.
Purely affirmative action.

Kingozymandias:


We don't play politics of hatred. What does that even mean?

Kingozymandias:
It's not the turn of the Southsouth, it's the turn of the southeast.
The silence of the Southeast should worry everyone .. rightfully it's our turn to elad this great nation.. we are not more bedeviled with problems than any other tribe yet we are being denied our rightful shot at the fixing this nation .
Some people have asked me have we fixed the southeast ? I laugh because other regions have ruled yet they are still battling myriad problems so why are my people being denied our turn?

Salty suddenly zoning that has been used by every region to secure the slot has been jettisoned now it's the turn of my people and it Futher makes us feel disenfranchised and and marginalized.

Then tomorrow you turn around and wonder why sesssionists had such a willing ear in the people to listen?

You can't deny a people their rights and make them feel less and expect them to willingly want to stay in Nigeria .. that is wrong and tantamount to bullying.

Who in his or her right conscience can say it's not the turn of the Igbos ? Please who can in good honest faith say this ?

Why push a people so hard to the point just telling yourself they can do nothing ? Really ? A nation can never be built by brute force but by inter Corporations and unity. Let me tell you my fellow NIGERIANS , IPOB didn't have up to 10% of the Igbo people support forget those iliterate touts and their social media propaganda. But to deny my people our right this time around for whatever reason is telling the remaining 90% of us who rejected ipob that maybe just maybe those touts have a point.

Yes power isn't given ,yes I agree but as ever other region had it zoned to them and a consensus picked so should it be done for the Southeast. To deny us our right is to do what Chinese is doing to Taiwan, to do what Israel doing to Palestine, to do what ImUAE is doing to shites..

Forget whatever we tell ourselves, each and every one of you my fellow country men and women know it's the turn of my people. I would have taught the great Asiwaju a defender of justice would have picked an Igbo man as his chosen candidate, that would have sent the message that he recodnizes that's it's rightfully our turn and that he stands for justice.

Anyways it's his right to run for office but like I said, to deny us is going to send a very strong message to every single Igbo man, woman ,boy and girl child that we are not recodnized and wanted in this country and I am afraid that would have a very dire repercussions in inter ethnic relations . I don't think buhari is in support of it not being an Igbo person infact I am shocked to admit from his a tions one can deduce he feels rightly it should be an Igbo person..

Alas time will tell

Kingozymandias:


You raised very good points comrade
But let.me remind you. Do you know why ekwueme and OBJ remained closed friends? Ekwueme stepped down for OBJ in 1998. Pls do your findings...

PrinceOfLagos:
No region can win election without the support of others

Iykenuwa:
This myth was refuted in 2011.

Before 15 million zombies fell under a spell in 2015.

unite4real:


check the northern states results of atiku vs buhari for the 2019 election and see how far behind Atiku was. It was the southan Nigeria that propelled Atiku with the high votes. So if the south is undermined in 2023 election, there could be voter apathy in the south.

https://www.tekedia.com/final-results-of-nigerias-presidential-election-by-states-apc-19-pdp-18/