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SOUTH EAST: IS IT NOT TOO LATE?

I have read the recent transmissions by Senator Bukola Saraki directed at my Igbo tribe. I have deliberately kept mum on this as I had earlier resolved to speak less on Igbos as regards the 2019 Elections and 2023 Presidency having said quite a bit. 

However seeing as some of my brethren have swallowed the cheap bait, I will chip this in just to keep the reality before us, at least for posterity sake. Truth is bitter but it's still the best medicine. 

My people say; 'He who does not remember where the rain started beating him, will not remember where it stopped'. 

REWIND TO 2014. 
A new National Party was being conceived. Political Parties, political players and Regions were being wooed to the new alliance. 

'We' Igbos (read South East) vehemently refused to touch it even with a long pole. We packaged, sold to ourselves and bought the baseless propaganda that it was an Islamic alliance that would birth an "Islamic" and "Hausa" Party. Simply because those our brethren heavily invested in the PDP at the time were afraid of losing their vested selfish interests.
Till today I'm still trying to fathom the basis for that wicked and twisted deceit especially as many of those Igbo elites who sold that dummy have since ported to the same APC.

We failed to even identify with that new Alliance. Hence the Party, APC was birthed without any remarkable input from us or presence. The few amongst us who aligned were called all kinds of names and abused to high heavens by us even when they were proven right afterall.

Thus the few Igbos who were part of it were at best fringe players as they didn't have the required clout to make serious demands and do the necessary political wheeling and dealing required in Politics to strike the hard bargains since politics is all about interests and numbers. They were even suspect, so much so that it was only their personal political sagacity that gave them whatever they got.

That Party went on to win the Presidential Election which in truth, most of us never believed it could or would, because of our half baked permutations and poor understanding of Nigerian politics. But it did. 

Curiously we turned up at the fore front of telling this same Party how it should share it's 'spoils of war'. We became hypocritical moral champions with an over bloated sense of entitlement. Who does that, in all political reality and practicality? But we did, even while vehemently and vociferously still refusing to shift our position, style and rhethoric.

We dug in. Supported every bad thing and person against the Party, the elected President and the Administration while denying any and every good done to and for our Region.

Fast forward to where we are today. Almost four years after the 2015 misadventure, we have stayed put at 2015, refusing to move forward, refusing to shift grounds, refusing to play pragmatic politics, telling ourselves the same lies we cooked and bought in 2015 and some more. 

Now barely 5 months to another election, we have started again saying "APC cannot give Presidency to Igbos in 2023". "Buhari cannot hand over to an Igbo man because Buhari hates Igbos". "APC is deceiving you", bla bla bla.

Of course. We will believe Saraki, who has only but a fanthom dream of becoming President and whose only known record is selfishness but we can't believe Buhari who's already President and who has a record of voluntarily picking two great Igbo sons as running mates in the past? Chukwu aju.

It is interesting and vital to note here that the PDP which many of us still proudly support and adore was in power for 16 solid years and in those years there were 4 Presidential Inaugurations and on none of those was an Igbo man found worthy by the PDP of even Vice Presidency and we are still bold to say it is the APC that has not even finished one and a half tenure that doesn't want to give power to Igbos. Odi nma. 

NOW; Seriously, let's be sincere. As things stand today politically, why would the APC even hand power to us Igbos in 2023? 
On what grounds? 
On what records?
On what politics?
Is power given to anyone? 
Is it an appeasement or a gift? 

The APC is a political party. The main focus of a political Party is to hold power and keep it to enable it deliver on its agenda. So if the APC reads that the SE does not want the Presidency or does not have the capacity to help them win and keep power, they will stick with the regions that can and work with individuals who are interested. 

Make no mistake, I have always said, I do not blame us Igbos for the decision majority of us took in 2015. It's our right. But continuing to pretend that it was other regions, Buhari or the APC that made us do what we did then or remain where we are today is purely self deceit and I refuse to play that ostrich game. 

As far back as 2014, I and many others made that argument that Igbo Presidency was very feasible in 2023, ONLY under under the APC, ONLY IF we did a couple of things right politically. I personally continued to speak loudly on that even after the 2015 elections until when I realized that we were not ready to play the politics that was required and now I dare say it may be too late. Or is it not? Time will tell.

For now, we can continue to tell ourselves that we cannot hold the Presidency of Nigeria. I heard and read many of our brethren go from PDP to Biafra/seccesion (read IPOB) to Referendum to "Igbos do not need Presidency but Restructuring" etc forgetting that all that didn't lie squarely with us alone. We think other regions are not reading our body language?

I really don't care what Saraki writes or says because they've all come to realize that it's very easy to play us like a flute. So like Saraki, like Fani Kayode, like Fayose, like Atiku, even Jonah Jang of all people, they keep playing us.

I've learnt not to bother myself anymore to avoid unnecessary mentions from nonentities.
As some of us have said, it's good governance we want, even if only one village will be producing the Presidents. So be it.

Ka Chineke mezie okwu. 

Sir, I have been trying to put something like this down for days now but I just don’t know where to start from permit me to say this is one of most constructive comment I have ever read on Nairaland you hit the head on the nail oh! sorry You hit the nail on the head.

More grace
More ink
More knowledge

May Nigeria be Great in our own time AMIN

seunmsg:
Absolute nonsense. Jonathan won the election in 2011 so what’s he saying?

Is Tambuwal saying the north cannot vote for a southern PDP candidate despite having the presidency for 8 years? Why then should the south vote for a northern PDP candidate when they can’t do the same to us?

The greed of Northern PDP leaders is unbelievable. They must think southerners are stupid. They simply want to cheat the south of what truly belongs to the them and it’s left for southern PDP leaders to respond. Since APC is presenting a southern candidate, I see no reason why PDP should not do the same. In a battle of two southern candidates, I don’t see any reason why PDP should be scared.

The north will hold power since greedy and unreasonable Yorubas like Tinubu have refused to allow the Igbos have their turn by respecting the principle of equity and fairness.

Thankfully, APC convention is just few days away...

Una go learn by force.

Christistruth00:



Even Baba Buhari couldn’t reach the Presidency till he stood on Tinubu’s Shoulders on the 4th attempt

The northerners in PDP, who ganged up against GEJ made Buhari to win, not Tinubu. Go back to the election results

Titogbanski:
South East can win if both parties can pick their Presidential candidates from the South East...just as it was done in the 1999 elections were both parties picked their candidates from the West as a way of addressing the ill-feelings brought about by the annulment of the June 12 elections

That period is very different from this current setting abeg no compare am

unite4real:


Ask what MKO Abiola did to Tofa.

There are many in the south that command more respect and followers in the North than even Tambuwal and Atiku

tofa wasn't popular and again abiola you are talking about has touch so many lives outside Yoruba land....obiola won in some eastern states bcoz of his good will but tinubu can never win any eastern state even south south including Edo so you can't put the two scenero! Atiku is so popular that he really did a good job against almighty Buhari even as an incumbent

Kingozymandias:
It's not the turn of the Southsouth, it's the turn of the southeast.
The silence of the Southeast should worry everyone .. rightfully it's our turn to elad this great nation.. we are not more bedeviled with problems than any other tribe yet we are being denied our rightful shot at the fixing this nation .
Some people have asked me have we fixed the southeast ? I laugh because other regions have ruled yet they are still battling myriad problems so why are my people being denied our turn?

Salty suddenly zoning that has been used by every region to secure the slot has been jettisoned now it's the turn of my people and it Futher makes us feel disenfranchised and and marginalized.

Then tomorrow you turn around and wonder why sesssionists had such a willing ear in the people to listen?

You can't deny a people their rights and make them feel less and expect them to willingly want to stay in Nigeria .. that is wrong and tantamount to bullying.

Who in his or her right conscience can say it's not the turn of the Igbos ? Please who can in good honest faith say this ?

Why push a people so hard to the point just telling yourself they can do nothing ? Really ? A nation can never be built by brute force but by inter Corporations and unity. Let me tell you my fellow NIGERIANS , IPOB didn't have up to 10% of the Igbo people support forget those iliterate touts and their social media propaganda. But to deny my people our right this time around for whatever reason is telling the remaining 90% of us who rejected ipob that maybe just maybe those touts have a point.

Yes power isn't given ,yes I agree but as ever other region had it zoned to them and a consensus picked so should it be done for the Southeast. To deny us our right is to do what Chinese is doing to Taiwan, to do what Israel doing to Palestine, to do what ImUAE is doing to shites..

Forget whatever we tell ourselves, each and every one of you my fellow country men and women know it's the turn of my people. I would have taught the great Asiwaju a defender of justice would have picked an Igbo man as his chosen candidate, that would have sent the message that he recodnizes that's it's rightfully our turn and that he stands for justice.

Anyways it's his right to run for office but like I said, to deny us is going to send a very strong message to every single Igbo man, woman ,boy and girl child that we are not recodnized and wanted in this country and I am afraid that would have a very dire repercussions in inter ethnic relations . I don't think buhari is in support of it not being an Igbo person infact I am shocked to admit from his a tions one can deduce he feels rightly it should be an Igbo person..

Alas time will tell

Let me be super brief.

If you ever expected fairness in Nigeria, you're on a long thing.

Some people prefer Thief Atiku to Thief Tinubu (for whatever reason). Personally, I wouldn't want to have a Fulani back to power because they've taken us a decade backwards. For this reason, if the Southeast supports Atiku now and he loses, what becomes of them after another 8 years? They will start complaining again....the Tinubu's camp is keenly watching the Igbo's body language. It is time for the South to unite for the South.
If and when the South wins and has served for 8 years, God willing, we shall start clamouring for power to remain in the South, let's see how the North will take it.

Reference:


The East doesn't have the numbers.
It can only happen as someone above said, if the two parties zone the ticket to that region.
Purely affirmative action.

You are making it sound novel...

It has been done recently here per 2019 so there should be no big deal in repeating it if propriety and fairness mean anything to some people in Nigeria who behave like savages.

ityP:



The northerners in PDP, who ganged up against GEJ made Buhari to win, not Tinubu. Go back to the election results

And what do you call the amalgamation of Buhari's CPC and Tinubu's ACN?

There's no zone called South! Pushing for the old North and South narrative will only benefit NW and SW!

We have NW, NE, NC, SE, SS, SW and the presidency should be zoned as such!

seunmsg:
Absolute nonsense. Jonathan won the election in 2011 so what’s he saying?

Is Tambuwal saying the north cannot vote for a southern PDP candidate despite having the presidency for 8 years? Why then should the south vote for a northern PDP candidate when they can’t do the same to us?

The greed of Northern PDP leaders is unbelievable. They must think southerners are stupid. They simply want to cheat the south of what truly belongs to the them and it’s left for southern PDP leaders to respond. Since APC is presenting a southern candidate, I see no reason why PDP should not do the same. In a battle of two southern candidates, I don’t see any reason why PDP should be scared.

Kingozymandias:
It's not the turn of the Southsouth, it's the turn of the southeast.
The silence of the Southeast should worry everyone .. rightfully it's our turn to elad this great nation.. we are not more bedeviled with problems than any other tribe yet we are being denied our rightful shot at the fixing this nation .
Some people have asked me have we fixed the southeast ? I laugh because other regions have ruled yet they are still battling myriad problems so why are my people being denied our turn?

Salty suddenly zoning that has been used by every region to secure the slot has been jettisoned now it's the turn of my people and it Futher makes us feel disenfranchised and and marginalized.

Then tomorrow you turn around and wonder why sesssionists had such a willing ear in the people to listen?

You can't deny a people their rights and make them feel less and expect them to willingly want to stay in Nigeria .. that is wrong and tantamount to bullying.

Who in his or her right conscience can say it's not the turn of the Igbos ? Please who can in good honest faith say this ?

Why push a people so hard to the point just telling yourself they can do nothing ? Really ? A nation can never be built by brute force but by inter Corporations and unity. Let me tell you my fellow NIGERIANS , IPOB didn't have up to 10% of the Igbo people support forget those iliterate touts and their social media propaganda. But to deny my people our right this time around for whatever reason is telling the remaining 90% of us who rejected ipob that maybe just maybe those touts have a point.

Yes power isn't given ,yes I agree but as ever other region had it zoned to them and a consensus picked so should it be done for the Southeast. To deny us our right is to do what Chinese is doing to Taiwan, to do what Israel doing to Palestine, to do what ImUAE is doing to shites..

Forget whatever we tell ourselves, each and every one of you my fellow country men and women know it's the turn of my people. I would have taught the great Asiwaju a defender of justice would have picked an Igbo man as his chosen candidate, that would have sent the message that he recodnizes that's it's rightfully our turn and that he stands for justice.

Anyways it's his right to run for office but like I said, to deny us is going to send a very strong message to every single Igbo man, woman ,boy and girl child that we are not recodnized and wanted in this country and I am afraid that would have a very dire repercussions in inter ethnic relations . I don't think buhari is in support of it not being an Igbo person infact I am shocked to admit from his a tions one can deduce he feels rightly it should be an Igbo person..

Alas time will tell

Let us assume APGA formed coalition with some northern parties and they emerged with the Northern party producing the President and a South eastern vice. Then comes another general election and the south westerners somehow remember that it's their turn. While you do not dispute that fact, will you be of this same opinion or you will understand that zoning is in fact a party's internal affairs, irrespective of the national sequence?

aribisala0:

https://www.nairaland.com/745731/yoruba-marginalization-elders-met-jonathan

Come on, we all know sensational journalism when we see it don't we?

Olatunji1929:
south south/south east can not win presidency for pdp unless apc also pick their presidential candidate from South thats the fact

That’s true. That’s the reason Yoruba people want PdP presidential ticket zoned to the south south or south east so that Tinubu can win. Lol…

marod:


Let us assume APGA formed coalition with some northern parties and they emerged with the Northern party producing the President and a South eastern vice. Then comes another general election and the south westerners somehow remember that it's their turn. While you do not dispute that fact, will you be of this same opinion or you will understand that zoning is in fact a party's internal affairs, irrespective of the national sequence?

Come on, we know before now the zoning has been adhered to by all, if it were to be reverted to for equity and justice you know as well as I that my people are now primarily politicians ... You have no treat form Igbos once it comes to politics we do our turn and go face our commerce...

Kingozymandias:
It's not the turn of the Southsouth, it's the turn of the southeast.
The silence of the Southeast should worry everyone .. rightfully it's our turn to elad this great nation.. we are not more bedeviled with problems than any other tribe yet we are being denied our rightful shot at the fixing this nation .
Some people have asked me have we fixed the southeast ? I laugh because other regions have ruled yet they are still battling myriad problems so why are my people being denied our turn?

Salty suddenly zoning that has been used by every region to secure the slot has been jettisoned now it's the turn of my people and it Futher makes us feel disenfranchised and and marginalized.

Then tomorrow you turn around and wonder why sesssionists had such a willing ear in the people to listen?

You can't deny a people their rights and make them feel less and expect them to willingly want to stay in Nigeria .. that is wrong and tantamount to bullying.

Who in his or her right conscience can say it's not the turn of the Igbos ? Please who can in good honest faith say this ?

Why push a people so hard to the point just telling yourself they can do nothing ? Really ? A nation can never be built by brute force but by inter Corporations and unity. Let me tell you my fellow NIGERIANS , IPOB didn't have up to 10% of the Igbo people support forget those iliterate touts and their social media propaganda. But to deny my people our right this time around for whatever reason is telling the remaining 90% of us who rejected ipob that maybe just maybe those touts have a point.

Yes power isn't given ,yes I agree but as ever other region had it zoned to them and a consensus picked so should it be done for the Southeast. To deny us our right is to do what Chinese is doing to Taiwan, to do what Israel doing to Palestine, to do what ImUAE is doing to shites..

Forget whatever we tell ourselves, each and every one of you my fellow country men and women know it's the turn of my people. I would have taught the great Asiwaju a defender of justice would have picked an Igbo man as his chosen candidate, that would have sent the message that he recodnizes that's it's rightfully our turn and that he stands for justice.

Anyways it's his right to run for office but like I said, to deny us is going to send a very strong message to every single Igbo man, woman ,boy and girl child that we are not recodnized and wanted in this country and I am afraid that would have a very dire repercussions in inter ethnic relations . I don't think buhari is in support of it not being an Igbo person infact I am shocked to admit from his a tions one can deduce he feels rightly it should be an Igbo person..

Alas time will tell

The same Asiwaju you guys abuse day and night? una funny o

Goke7:


The same Asiwaju you guys abuse day and night? una funny o

Please do not quote me and do this.. I want to discuss with intellectuals only as we have bee doing ..

Thank you for understanding

Olatunji1929:
south south/south east can not win presidency for pdp unless apc also pick their presidential candidate from South thats the fact

Rightful said.

That's why l think SE should secure their VP slot in PDP first then reinforce

These northerners are just arrogant.

And with nothing to show except uncontrolled birth rate that is increasing the poverty rate.

ityP:



They do. But they don't have the political might to overthrow APC. We want a northerner to help us dislodge APC

Please breakdown this "political might" what does it mean.

The constitution is clear to win Presidency you need 25% of the votes from 24 states so even if a Northern candidate gets all 19 states in the North they would still need 5 from the south

Historically no candidate has got all 19 states so they would still need southern votes
So your permutation is not based on reality

The North has never voted as a block

In 1979 there were 10 states in the North and 9 in the south .To win one needed 25% in 13 states .Shagari only managed to get 7 in the North and 5 in the South he did not win Kano (Kano + Jigawa today ) or Kaduna( Kaduna +Katsina today) Zik actually won Plateau
In 1999 Bashir Tofa lost his home state Kano to Abiola

So this idea of Northern votes is funny The North have never voted as one.
I do not see Benue voting for a Fulani man in 2023
Benue ,Kogi, Taraba, Plateau, Kwara and Nasarawa do not vote the same way as Sokoto and Zamfara

Olatunji1929:
south south/south east can not win presidency for pdp unless apc also pick their presidential candidate from South thats the fact

But north can win??

00FFT00:


And what do you call the amalgamation of Buhari's CPC and Tinubu's ACN?

Like it's Tinubu's ACN that joined alone. ANPP was a party to be reckoned with too. They joined. N-PDP too. Tinubu did not single handedly bring in Buhari. If not for PDP members, GEJ would still have won

aribisala0:
Please breakdown this "political might" what does it mean.

The constitution is clear to win Presidency you need 25% of the votes from 24 states so even if a Northern candidate gets all 19 states in the North they would still need 5 from the south

Historically no candidate has got all 19 states so they would still need southern votes
So your permutation is not based on reality

The North has never voted as a block

In 1979 there were 10 states in the North and 9 in the south .To win one needed 25% in 13 states .Shagari only managed to get 7 in the North and 5 in the South he did not win Kano (Kano + Jigawa today ) or Kaduna( Kaduna +Katsina today) Zik actually won Plateau
In 1999 Bashir Tofa lost his home state Kano to Abiola

So this idea of Northern votes is funny The North have never voted as one.
I do not see Benue voting for a Fulani man in 2023

Check Buhari's votes in the north since he started contesting elections. This should tell you one or two things . Nigeria is not what it used to be in the 70s and 90s. Buhari has so divided this nation along ethnic lines. Scream of restructuring has put the north in its toes. Everybody wants to support his brother now. No northerner will vote in a southerner in PDP. Even in states like Plateau, Benue, Taraba, etc, will be almost 50:50. Now is not time to experiment. PDP must field a northerner

Haba Mr Tabuwal after receiving the magnanimous support of Gov Wike(of oil rich Rivers State) in the 2019 PDP presidential primaries, you come bash the SS people as if they are power hungry.

LordIsaac:
Some people prefer Thief Atiku to Thief Tinubu (for whatever reason). Personally, I wouldn't want to have a Fulani back to power because they've taken us a decade backwards. For this reason, if the Southeast supports Atiku now and he loses, what becomes of them after another 8 years? They will start complaining again....the Tinubu's camp is keenly watching the Igbo's body language. It is time for the South to unite for the South.
If and when the South wins and has served for 8 years, God willing, we shall start clamoring for power to remain in the South, let's see how the North will take it.

Southern unity, much as we desire should not be shouldered on the backs of southeasterners.

It is tragic that a man who truly has nothing to offer Nigeria that is not obtainable in a fair coalition of all southern people. A man whose presence alone is super polarising, and visibly so in his utterances, rhetorics, and general behavior, is insistent on being him that wears the crown for a people he clearly does not represent.

Truth be told, Tinubu has no following elsewhere in the south except his southwest enclave. And that is not totally. We've seen him junketing all over northern Nigeria but arrogantly ignored his next-door neighbors. Could it be that he knows they don't like him, yet you want to be their flag bearer?

Things will get very interesting in a short while. But it will be a shame if another Fulani man saddles Nigeria's leadership position on account of a man who clearly knows that he is not electable. Until then, I will stay within my long-held belief that his campaign is a fight for continued relevance in the political and power arena.

Kingozymandias:
It's not the turn of the Southsouth, it's the turn of the southeast.
The silence of the Southeast should worry everyone .. rightfully it's our turn to elad this great nation.. we are not more bedeviled with problems than any other tribe yet we are being denied our rightful shot at the fixing this nation .
Some people have asked me have we fixed the southeast ? I laugh because other regions have ruled yet they are still battling myriad problems so why are my people being denied our turn?

Salty suddenly zoning that has been used by every region to secure the slot has been jettisoned now it's the turn of my people and it Futher makes us feel disenfranchised and and marginalized.

Then tomorrow you turn around and wonder why sesssionists had such a willing ear in the people to listen?

You can't deny a people their rights and make them feel less and expect them to willingly want to stay in Nigeria .. that is wrong and tantamount to bullying.

Who in his or her right conscience can say it's not the turn of the Igbos ? Please who can in good honest faith say this ?

Why push a people so hard to the point just telling yourself they can do nothing ? Really ? A nation can never be built by brute force but by inter Corporations and unity. Let me tell you my fellow NIGERIANS , IPOB didn't have up to 10% of the Igbo people support forget those iliterate touts and their social media propaganda. But to deny my people our right this time around for whatever reason is telling the remaining 90% of us who rejected ipob that maybe just maybe those touts have a point.

Yes power isn't given ,yes I agree but as ever other region had it zoned to them and a consensus picked so should it be done for the Southeast. To deny us our right is to do what Chinese is doing to Taiwan, to do what Israel doing to Palestine, to do what ImUAE is doing to shites..

Forget whatever we tell ourselves, each and every one of you my fellow country men and women know it's the turn of my people. I would have taught the great Asiwaju a defender of justice would have picked an Igbo man as his chosen candidate, that would have sent the message that he recodnizes that's it's rightfully our turn and that he stands for justice.

Anyways it's his right to run for office but like I said, to deny us is going to send a very strong message to every single Igbo man, woman ,boy and girl child that we are not recodnized and wanted in this country and I am afraid that would have a very dire repercussions in inter ethnic relations . I don't think buhari is in support of it not being an Igbo person infact I am shocked to admit from his a tions one can deduce he feels rightly it should be an Igbo person..

Alas time will tell

I commend you so much for the way you tried to make your point that Igbo people deserve the Presidency this time. The way you submitted your points without insulting and cursing other tribes is very mature and could pass as superior arguments.

But we need to understand that zoning or not, Igbos need to come out, contest, and lobby other parts of the nation to support them. For example, why didn't Governor Peter Obi join the race? The guy is very well qualified to be President. Even in previous elections which were zoned, people from other regions still contested against the candidates from the region to which the election was zoned.

No region has been faithful to the PDP as the South East has been, so I can't understand why folks like Peter Obi are leaving PDP's ticket to guys like Atiku and Tambuwal. Igbos shouldn't wait for the ticket to be dropped on their laps. They should slug it out with people from other regions and give it what it takes. Who says an Igbo aspirant can't defeat an aspirant from the North.

As for the APC, the bitter truth is that the political dynamics that formed the party don't favor Igbos. I am not saying this because I am from the South West, I am saying this because that's the fact, just as I would not hesitate to say that the political reality in PDP doesn't favor a Yoruba aspirant because I don't need anybody to tell me that my people haven't been loyal to the PDP.

Right from when APC was being formed circa 2013, 2014, and 2015, I knew it that those working hard to form the party such as Tinubu, had their own ambitions and were working to build a strong platform to stand on and to run on. If anybody thinks that people like Tinubu who worked hard to form APC would one day discard their ambitions for people who didn't work as hard as they did to form the party, that is acute political naivety.

The bitter truth is that the aloofness of the Igbos toward the APC will not favor them in that party. The earlier we face this fact, the better. But there is a strong party to which the Igbos have been faithful and loyal. The Igbos are entitled, yes, entitled to that party's Presidential ticket, and that's the PDP. But I am bemused that the Igbos seem to have surrendered that party's ticket to Atiku.

ityP:



Like it's Tinubu's ACN that joined alone. ANPP was a party to be reckoned with too. They joined. N-PDP too. Tinubu did not single handedly bring in Buhari. If not for PDP members, GEJ would still have won

If you read the electoral law, you will see how it is Tinubu's ACn that did the damage the most. On what basis is Tinubu and his lackey's claiming that he is owed a mandate if I may ask you?.

soojar:


You made good points. But presidency, especially in the present day Nigeria is not handed to anybody on platter. Up till now, we have not seen any serious minded person showing interest from the SE.

On a normal day, this is the right time for whoever is serious from SE region to start pushing and be making himself heard so the noise of zoning to SE can get louder but alas! the reverse is the case, the potential good candidates are all quiet.

Mind you, for south east presidency to succeed it needs serious consultation e.g with a certain Jagaban from the SW and the power brokers from the north. Cajole them, rub their ego and play on their sentiment BUT not threatening them.

The igbos will tell you they don't beg anyone for anything they want you to just dash them anything they want, anyhow, anytime

Inkling:
So, Southeast is not even an option.

Nigeria is tilting towards........

Implosion and disintegration which will be caused solely by the preaches of One Nigeria themselves.

ityP:



Check Buhari's votes in the north since he started contesting elections. This should tell you one or two things

There is an element of contradiction and illogic in your submission
Buhari contested against Yaradua and Atiku among others so we cannot attribute his large following just to being a Northerner but rather to a Buhari factor that does not apply to EVERY Northerner

My point is there are 19 states in the North

In 2011 Jonathan defeated Buhari in
Adamawa
Benue
Kogi
Kwara
Nasarawa
Plateau
Taraba

Buhari has been the most popular politician at the polls in Northern history and yet Jonathan defeated him in 7 out of 19 states in 2011 so what is your point?

TheAviator:


I commend you so much for the way you tried to make your point that Igbo people deserve the Presidency this time. The way you submitted your points without insulting and cursing other tribes is very mature and could pass as superior arguments.

But we need to understand that zoning or not, Igbos need to come out, contest, and lobby other parts of the nation to support them. For example, why didn't Governor Peter Obi join the race? The guy is very well qualified to be President. Even in previous elections which were zoned, people from other regions still contested against the candidates from the region to which the election was zoned.

No region has been faithful to the PDP as the South East has been, so I can't understand why folks like Peter Obi are leaving PDP's ticket to guys like Atiku and Tambuwal. Igbos shouldn't wait for the ticket to be dropped on their laps. They should slug it out with people from other regions and give it what it takes. Who says an Igbo aspirant can't defeat an aspirant from the North.

As for the APC, the bitter truth is that the political dynamics that formed the party don't favor Igbos. I am not saying this because I am from the South West, I am saying this because that's the fact, just as I would not hesitate to say that the political reality in PDP doesn't favor a Yoruba aspirant because I don't need anybody to tell me that my people haven't been loyal to the PDP.

Right from when APC was being formed circa 2013, 2014, and 2015, I knew it that those working hard to form the party such as Tinubu, had their own ambitions and were working to build a strong platform to stand on and to run on. If anybody thinks that people like Tinubu who worked hard to form APC would one day discard their ambitions for people who didn't work as hard as they did to form the party, that is acute political naivety.

The bitter truth is that the aloofness of the Igbos toward the APC will not favor them in that party. The earlier we face this fact, the better. But there is a strong party to which the Igbos have been faithful and loyal. The Igbos are entitled, yes, entitled to that party's Presidential ticket, and that's the PDP. But I am bemused that the Igbos seem to have surrendered that party's ticket to Atiku.

The igbos can take lots of risks in business but not in politics, can any of them even with their deep pockets spend like Atiku or BAT, that's why I laugh when I hear how they are the richest in Ngeria per head in terms of GDP and all those funny statistics they reel out. So don't be surprised Peter Obi surrendering easily, how much did he spend in the last election .

Elections, presidency especially in Nigerian terms is too expensive and risky at the same time, e take strong liver to even try

Kingozymandias:


You raised very good points comrade
But let.me remind you. Do you know why ekwueme and OBJ remained closed friends? Ekwueme stepped down for OBJ in 1998. Pls do your findings...

OBJ and Ekwueme remained friends because Alex was a gentleman who OBJ believes want what is best for the country but I don't agree that Alex Ekwueme ever stepped down for OBJ, if you say the northern military elite influenced things for Obasanjo, I will agree, but no one stepped down for the other. See some screenshots below and you can check out this thread
https://www.nairaland.com/5925313/pdp-presidential-primaries-history-facts

Goke7:


The igbos can take lots of risks in business but not in politics, can any of them even with their deep pockets spend like Atiku or BAT, that's why I laugh when I hear how they are the richest in Ngeria per head in terms of GDP and all those funny statistics they reel out. So don't be surprised Peter Obi surrendering easily, how much did he spend in the last election .

Elections, presidency especially in Nigerian terms is too expensive and risky at the same time, e take strong liver to even try

Methinks that Governor Peter Obi stayed out of the race because he didn't want to contest against Atiku in the hope that Atiku will nominate him as his running mate. I think that's not the right decision from him at all.