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| Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by opeldavid: 3:12pm On Mar 22, 2022 |
Please let's keep sentiments and semantics aside, I think Tambuwa is right. If we want PDP to win 2023 general election PDP should just forget about zoning and give it to the North precisely Atiku , otherwise we would be back to square zero. PDP stands a better chance winning the election with a northern candidate contesting with a Southern candidate from APC. We cant afford to take chances. Not in this dire situation we have found ourselves with this chaotic APC ruling. We the Southern people should be patient and just swallow the bitter pill. |
| Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by Osilama1: 3:14pm On Mar 22, 2022 |
ityP:we ll be here to remind you guys... Perhaps u don't know that APC isn't APGA... If atiku can't get considerable votes in North Central he ll lose cos he won't get North East and West it's APC strong hold with osinbajo or tinubu they ll beat Atiku there except taraba and adamawa Atiku can win easily but continue yarning opata sha |
| Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by ogascomax: 3:17pm On Mar 22, 2022 |
seunmsg:I am from the south but if PDP want to win the election then they most go to the North. Every time the speak about going south which is not bad. The question they are yet to answer is who they are bringing. The Northern candidates are buying presidential form and the south are busy fighting for zoning. We want to see Southern candidate and Wike shouldn't even try to bring himself because it will be a disaster for PDP. |
| Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by maestroferddi: 3:32pm On Mar 22, 2022 |
Osilama1:See this one... The next president of Nigeria will not come from the South West... Bookmark this statement. |
| Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by aribisala0(m): 3:32pm On Mar 22, 2022 |
ityP:Shows you do not understand the constitution You do not win by simple majority , in my experience nearly 100% of Nigerian university graduates hold this erroneous belief . All states are equal just like you can only get 3 points from a football game even if you win 9 -0 To win you must get 25% of votes cast in 24 states. Simple majority only comes into it where the first round is undecisive and there would be a rerun between the first two candidates then simple majority comes into it. Otherwise the dominant principle is SPREAD which indicates acceptance across many states so if one candidate gets 25% in 24 states it is possible that he does not have simple majority but he will win the election if no other candidate gets 25% in 24 states so it s theoretically possible to get majority if you win 95% in Kano , Lagos, Katsina , Kaduna and maybe 7 other states but a guy with more states and fewer votes could become president . The so called "popular vote" conundrum. A number of US presidents have emerged that did not win the popular vote. e.g Trump Our system is a bit different but that just shows that theoretically you can win presidency without winning majority. What is important is to be on ground everywhere and even if you lose a state make sure you get 25% The sad thing is when such a situation occurs in future everyone will start we no go gree because they have not studied the law. |
| Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by Nchenches: 3:36pm On Mar 22, 2022 |
ityP:Foxes like you want us to start the history of Nigeria's political leadership from 1999. |
| Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by Sniper101(m): 3:36pm On Mar 22, 2022 |
Kingozymandias:Bros Una no be Biafra again ni Now una wan rule Nigeria ...country wey all of una dey call Zoo? LMAO It's so pathetic you guys just can't quit making caricatures out of yourselves |
| Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by maestroferddi: 3:38pm On Mar 22, 2022 |
opeldavid:Atiku is the surest way for PDP victory based on current realities on ground. Nobody will allow us give the disaster called APC the slightest opportunity of extending their misgovernance. |
| Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by Nobody: 3:39pm On Mar 22, 2022 |
Olatunji1929:. That's true. I'm an Igbo and I know that |
| Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by Indispensable85(m): 3:55pm On Mar 22, 2022 |
PDP is heading for self destruction the way they're going. |
| Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by Kingozymandias(m): 4:04pm On Mar 22, 2022 |
[s] Sniper101:[/s] I have been interacting back and forth will very sound intelligent people of various tribes, none have been rude and toutish. Please never quote me again, I don't talk with people like you sir Thanks for understanding |
| Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by eeetuk(m): 4:11pm On Mar 22, 2022*. Modified: 5:57pm On Mar 22, 2022 |
"In what appeared a repudiation of the zoning arrangement, Sokoto Governor, Aminu Tambuwal, has told the leadership and stakeholders of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) to choose between zoning of its presidential ticket and winning the election" I am against zoning , but arguing that the presidency will be won based on a candidate geopolitical location is outright tribalism. I think Governor Tambuwal as of today disqualified himself for injecting tribalism into Nigerian politics. And I think a person character and integrity should be at the forefront of who becomes next president of Nigeria in 2023 presidential. What Nigerian people need now is someone who can help Nigeria to succeed, not which tribe or geopolitical location the person comes from. Nigeria is a failed state because its past leaders have often been chosen based on tribe or geopolitical zone. Since it has not worked, we need to change course to new direction. And I don't think Governor Tambuwal represents the new direction Nigeria needs today or tomorrow. I think South South geopolitical zone houses better qualified candidates than entire Northern Nigeria geopolitical zones. For an example, Goodluck Jonathan presidency was far better than Mohammad Buhari and OBJ administrations. Under president Obasanjo and Buhari , unemployment rates have become epidemic, terrorism has prospered, 15 millions have been driven out of their homes, kidnapping and Bantry have become uncontrollable. Furthermore, under Buhari and Obasanjo administrations hunger and poverty have overtaken Nigeria, murder rates have skyrocketed and migration of Nigerians to other countries have gone through the roof. That never happened under Goodluck Jonathan administration. So, choosing someone from southeast, southwest or Northern Nigeria is a continuation to failed state. Is failed state the right path for Nigeria in 2023? |
| Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by Nobody: 4:11pm On Mar 22, 2022 |
PDP currently cannot win presidential election with any candidate from South. What they need now is to collect power from an opposition party. Definitely, if they zone it to south, who might win will be a Christian and Tinubu will come over here in North to misinform them. I'm an Igbo living in the north. A Southern cannot win election under opposition mark my words! Who knows wike over here? How many voters power he has to win Tinubu but a cripple can win him if he or she is from North. PDD will decide either of winning election or losing another 8years by zoning it to south. Atiku will win Tinubu even without campaigning. |
| Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by SeeItSayIt: 4:46pm On Mar 22, 2022 |
If only PDP listened to people like you & your kind shouldn't even be on the list because you're serial political betrayer & prostitute. Your kind neither care about success & solidification of any political party nor citizens development rather your selfish interest remains your uttermost priority. |
| Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by sematec(m): 4:46pm On Mar 22, 2022 |
This alone should open their eyes |
| Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by Niwdog(m): 4:49pm On Mar 22, 2022 |
All south east politician should strike a deal with the pDp, hand over the party ticket to a northerner after their tenure it should come to S/east,that was exactly what the south/west did in Apc, assume APC fielded a southerner against Jonathan that candidate will loose The s/w are clamoring for APC ticket but believe me you they will loose the election if PDP throws up a northerner the only chance that would have been left for southern APC candidate was if APC had delivered half there electoral promises |
| Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by Sweeetheart(m): 4:53pm On Mar 22, 2022 |
athaboi:is this a romance section or what? political discourse is now a cheap topic to many of you kids here Buhari had cult followers than Atiku in North yet he was defeated by incumbent before some people with power bloc supported him politics is not Sit at home talk and ugm threat, you people should stop being funny with your political comedies analysis |
| Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by Niwdog(m): 4:56pm On Mar 22, 2022 |
David4best:how many top northern politicians were with buhari then? Buhari defeated Goodluck in 2015 was because of the mass defections of northern cabal from pdp No think say na tinubu make northerners vote buhari o Why tinubu is relevant na because of the money wey him dey bring |
| Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by adelaja70(m): 4:56pm On Mar 22, 2022 |
Kingozymandias:Who's denying them Abeg? I no understand. |
| Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by remiopash: 4:57pm On Mar 22, 2022 |
Kingozymandias:PDP should have micro-zoned president to South East. |
| Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by athaboi(f): 5:01pm On Mar 22, 2022 |
Sweeetheart:I only respond to those with strong argument, I don't chat with noise makers so when you have anything to say then I will respond! By then I will tell you that you can't compare the era buahri was contesting alone without even a single state governor to PDP who have been in power for years and Atiku who came so close in 2019! Like I said, I don't chat with those who make noise and insults people around...bye |
| Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by Sweeetheart(m): 5:01pm On Mar 22, 2022 |
Niwdog:shout yeast and their analysis, so handling over PDP ticket to North is the reason you've been looking for excuse to deny Anyim and Peter Obi? if them born you people well after election cry marginalization, na Ogun go handle you people then |
| Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by TheAviator: 5:02pm On Mar 22, 2022 |
Kingozymandias:I agree with you that an Igbo Presidency would reduce the agitations in the Southeast. But I don't think that there is a conspiracy to prevent Igbos from becoming President. The issue is that strong Igbos such as Peter Obi and Orji Kalu should take the bull by the horn and run. That Atiku and Tinubu are running does not mean that an Igbo aspirant can't win. The only thing that guarantees that an Igbo man will not emerge as President in 2023 is if Igbos don't join the race. A former Director in DSS, who worked with Obasanjo, told me that power is not given to anybody, but people fight for it. He told me that despite Tinubu's role in the formation of the APC, nobody in APC will just give him the party's ticket. He said Tinubu needs to take some strategic steps and fight for it in order to get it. He went on to say that as someone who knew what was done to help Obasanjo defeat Abubakar Rimi when they both contested for PDP ticket in 2003, he could say that Tinubu is really doing what is required to get the Presidential ticket of APC. His point is that anyone who wants the Presidency needs to fight for it, and according to him, Tinubu is really doing the necessary things to get it. He said that if Tinubu had sat down, while demanding for his party's ticket on the basis of the role he played in its formation, he would not get it. He said that but by the way he is fighting for it now, he is likely unstoppable. This point applies to our Igbo brothers also. They need to join the race, take strategic steps, talk to people and persuade them. That's the only way anyone from any tribe can get the Presidency. In fact I expect Igbos from this moment to start putting serious pressure on formidable politicians from the Southeast to join the race and slug it out with other contestants from other regions. |
| Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by Sweeetheart(m): 5:06pm On Mar 22, 2022 |
athaboi:Buhari with Cult followers if you know what that means couldn't thrash an incumbent southerner but your Atiku will do the wonders? so no igbo president in 2023? may we not be confused like shout yeast people o President Tinubu should just arrest any Nyanmiri that caused sit at home after his election, is making these people to think backward |
| Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by Niwdog(m): 5:07pm On Mar 22, 2022 |
Kingozymandias:no mind the guy you quoted Before 1999 election the Igbos we're more dominant in PDP just like tinubu invested alot in this present Apc was the way Igbos did in the then PDP but alas for equity it was given to obj who know nothing about PDP |
| Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by FoolishBoy419: 5:09pm On Mar 22, 2022 |
Kingozymandias:To be honest, social media has turned me to an Igbo hater and I have never wanted to see them in Aso Rock but this post moved me. This is why one should never allow the wrong side to be too loud. Honestly speaking, The hate-filled Nnamdi Kanu followers have successfully made a lot of enemies for your tribe. Before 2017, it was highly unlikely to hear anyone in my state (Kaduna) insulting the Igbos but nowadays, few people say good things about the tribe and IPOB is solely responsible. They used insecurity (which ironically, has killed more Northern muslims than Igbos) to call northerners animals, to call the north's second largest ethnic group, Fulanis all sorts of names just because a few criminals among them were killing people. There are a lot of Igbo men that would be perfect for Nigeria but I'm afraid, it's highly unlikely for them to succeed because the amount of anti-Igbo sentiment in the north these days is alarming. |
| Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by VEHINTOLAR: 5:12pm On Mar 22, 2022 |
Kingozymandias:Why should every party field an Igbo candidate ? What political injustice have Igbo suffered to actually make them deserving of such privilege ? Yoruba people were robbed of their victory in 1993 through the infamous annulment of election that was clearly won by Bashorun MKO Abiola. Even the international community strongly condemned that injustice. So,if the two dominant political parties - SDP and NRC of that era decided to field Yoruba candidates alone, isn't that understandable ? Abiola paid the price for that arrangement to be possible and that's a fact ! The question now is that on what basis should all political parties in Nigeria field Igbo candidates only ? Igbo can't be saying it is their turn to rule too just because other regions have ruled in the past. That sounds like a blackmail,emotional one ! Has anybody ever stopped Igbo people from contesting for the Presidency of Nigeria ? In actual fact,have they not been contesting for the position ? What Igbo people are practically asking for is that other Nigerians should just give them the presidency because they (Igbo) are yet to rule Nigeria like others ! Who does that in a democracy ? My dear Igbo people,you truly have to work for it; it won't be given to you ! As for 2023,candidate of Igbo extraction stands no chance ! |
| Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by timo90(m): 5:13pm On Mar 22, 2022 |
Atiku is the only candidate that can defeat apc in 2023 |
| Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by Niwdog(m): 5:14pm On Mar 22, 2022 |
Sweeetheart:your people did it in 2015 So what's wrong in doing it You cried that you were being marginalized under goodluck so you created APC but went ahead and fielded a northerner so you can get the power. Southeast will also play the game so chilax and drink your ewedu |
| Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by Kingozymandias(m): 5:18pm On Mar 22, 2022 |
TheAviator:Comrade it's is fair to say you have bested me with superior arguement and I ceeede on this occasion. Seems we need to tell our desired leaders to come up and take position. Like I told one othe remember for long my tribe allowed chatallans and iliterates take the fore while we the more savvy and enlightened stayed in the rear, not anymore. Thank you for this warm enlightening exchange I truly enjoyed it comrade... At the end a better Nigeria for all ethnic groups is all we want.. Cheers and enjoy the rest of your evening as we say in Igbo , Daly nwannem (translates to thank you my brother) Cheers |
| Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by Kellibae(f): 5:20pm On Mar 22, 2022 |
Emeskhalifa:Buhari is picking Timipreye silver. Bookmark this . U heard it from me first |
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Oga, Atiku will shake things in both North East and North West. He'd do far better than any Southerner in those regions. This is simple calculation.