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Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by opeldavid: 3:12pm On Mar 22, 2022
Please let's keep sentiments and semantics aside, I think Tambuwa is right. If we want PDP to win 2023 general election PDP should just forget about zoning and give it to the North precisely Atiku , otherwise we would be back to square zero. PDP stands a better chance winning the election with a northern candidate contesting with a Southern candidate from APC.

We cant afford to take chances. Not in this dire situation we have found ourselves with this chaotic APC ruling. We the Southern people should be patient and just swallow the bitter pill.
Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by Osilama1: 3:14pm On Mar 22, 2022
ityP:



Who come dey North Central? grin Oga, Atiku will shake things in both North East and North West. He'd do far better than any Southerner in those regions. This is simple calculation.
we ll be here to remind you guys... Perhaps u don't know that APC isn't APGA... If atiku can't get considerable votes in North Central he ll lose cos he won't get North East and West it's APC strong hold with osinbajo or tinubu they ll beat Atiku there except taraba and adamawa Atiku can win easily but continue yarning opata sha
Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by ogascomax: 3:17pm On Mar 22, 2022
seunmsg:
Absolute nonsense. Jonathan won the election in 2011 so what’s he saying?

Is Tambuwal saying the north cannot vote for a southern PDP candidate despite having the presidency for 8 years? Why then should the south vote for a northern PDP candidate when they can’t do the same to us?

The greed of Northern PDP leaders is unbelievable. They must think southerners are stupid. They simply want to cheat the south of what truly belongs to the them and it’s left for southern PDP leaders to respond. Since APC is presenting a southern candidate, I see no reason why PDP should not do the same. In a battle of two southern candidates, I don’t see any reason why PDP should be scared.

I am from the south but if PDP want to win the election then they most go to the North. Every time the speak about going south which is not bad. The question they are yet to answer is who they are bringing. The Northern candidates are buying presidential form and the south are busy fighting for zoning. We want to see Southern candidate and Wike shouldn't even try to bring himself because it will be a disaster for PDP.
Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by maestroferddi: 3:32pm On Mar 22, 2022
Osilama1:
don't worry u ll still be following nnamdi Kanu after PDP lose 2023 u assume PDP with a Northerner ll defeat a strong APC Ina node tire APC ll even get good votes In South South self na u Igbos with ur Ipob mentality ll follow PDP to the grave
See this one...

The next president of Nigeria will not come from the South West...

Bookmark this statement.
Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by aribisala0(m): 3:32pm On Mar 22, 2022
ityP:



Those northern states are inconsequential, same way SE is inconsequential in the south grin. Kano alone fit cover like 4 of those northern states you mentioned. Oga, a southerner can not ho against someone like Tinubu in APC or even Osinbajo. Only a northerner can
Shows you do not understand the constitution

You do not win by simple majority , in my experience nearly 100% of Nigerian university graduates hold this erroneous belief . All states are equal just like you can only get 3 points from a football game even if you win 9 -0

To win you must get 25% of votes cast in 24 states. Simple majority only comes into it where the first round is undecisive and there would be a rerun between the first two candidates then simple majority comes into it.

Otherwise the dominant principle is SPREAD which indicates acceptance across many states so if one candidate gets 25% in 24 states it is possible that he does not have simple majority but he will win the election if no other candidate gets 25% in 24 states so it s theoretically possible to get majority if you win 95% in Kano , Lagos, Katsina , Kaduna and maybe 7 other states but a guy with more states and fewer votes could become president . The so called "popular vote" conundrum.

A number of US presidents have emerged that did not win the popular vote. e.g Trump
Our system is a bit different but that just shows that theoretically you can win presidency without winning majority. What is important is to be on ground everywhere and even if you lose a state make sure you get 25%
The sad thing is when such a situation occurs in future everyone will start we no go gree because they have not studied the law.
Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by Nchenches: 3:36pm On Mar 22, 2022
ityP:



There's nothing like zoning in our constitution. Na parties create this zoning talk. PDP's last president was from the south. According to zoning inside the party, a northerner deserves it now. But still the north wants everyone to try his luck and see. Tbh, they're being fair

Foxes like you want us to start the history of Nigeria's political leadership from 1999.
Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by Sniper101(m): 3:36pm On Mar 22, 2022
Kingozymandias:
It's not the turn of the Southsouth, it's the turn of the southeast.
The silence of the Southeast should worry everyone .. rightfully it's our turn to elad this great nation.. we are not more bedeviled with problems than any other tribe yet we are being denied our rightful shot at the fixing this nation .
Some people have asked me have we fixed the southeast ? I laugh because other regions have ruled yet they are still battling myriad problems so why are my people being denied our turn?

Salty suddenly zoning that has been used by every region to secure the slot has been jettisoned now it's the turn of my people and it Futher makes us feel disenfranchised and and marginalized.

Then tomorrow you turn around and wonder why sesssionists had such a willing ear in the people to listen?

You can't deny a people their rights and make them feel less and expect them to willingly want to stay in Nigeria .. that is wrong and tantamount to bullying.

Who in his or her right conscience can say it's not the turn of the Igbos ? Please who can in good honest faith say this ?

Why push a people so hard to the point just telling yourself they can do nothing ? Really ? A nation can never be built by brute force but by inter Corporations and unity. Let me tell you my fellow NIGERIANS , IPOB didn't have up to 10% of the Igbo people support forget those iliterate touts and their social media propaganda. But to deny my people our right this time around for whatever reason is telling the remaining 90% of us who rejected ipob that maybe just maybe those touts have a point.

Yes power isn't given ,yes I agree but as ever other region had it zoned to them and a consensus picked so should it be done for the Southeast. To deny us our right is to do what Chinese is doing to Taiwan, to do what Israel doing to Palestine, to do what ImUAE is doing to shites..

Forget whatever we tell ourselves, each and every one of you my fellow country men and women know it's the turn of my people. I would have taught the great Asiwaju a defender of justice would have picked an Igbo man as his chosen candidate, that would have sent the message that he recodnizes that's it's rightfully our turn and that he stands for justice.

Anyways it's his right to run for office but like I said, to deny us is going to send a very strong message to every single Igbo man, woman ,boy and girl child that we are not recodnized and wanted in this country and I am afraid that would have a very dire repercussions in inter ethnic relations . I don't think buhari is in support of it not being an Igbo person infact I am shocked to admit from his a tions one can deduce he feels rightly it should be an Igbo person..

Alas time will tell


Bros
Una no be Biafra again ni cheesy
Now una wan rule Nigeria grin
...country wey all of una dey call Zoo?

LMAO
It's so pathetic you guys just can't quit making caricatures out of yourselves
Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by maestroferddi: 3:38pm On Mar 22, 2022
opeldavid:
Please let's keep sentiments and semantics aside, I think Tambuwa is right. If we want PDP to win 2023 general election PDP should just forget about zoning and give it to the North precisely Atiku , otherwise we would be back to square zero. PDP stands a better chance winning the election with a northern candidate contesting with a Southern candidate from APC.

We cant afford to take chances. Not in this dire situation we have found ourselves with this chaotic APC ruling. We the Southern people should be patient and just swallow the bitter pill.
Atiku is the surest way for PDP victory based on current realities on ground.

Nobody will allow us give the disaster called APC the slightest opportunity of extending their misgovernance.
Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by Nobody: 3:39pm On Mar 22, 2022
Olatunji1929:
south south/south east can not win presidency for pdp unless apc also pick their presidential candidate from South thats the fact
. That's true. I'm an Igbo and I know that
Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by Indispensable85(m): 3:55pm On Mar 22, 2022
PDP is heading for self destruction the way they're going.
Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by Kingozymandias(m): 4:04pm On Mar 22, 2022
[s]
Sniper101:

Bros
Una no be Biafra again ni cheesy
Now una wan rule Nigeria grin
...country wey all of una dey call Zoo?

LMAO
It's so pathetic you guys just can't quit making caricatures out of yourselves

[/s]


I have been interacting back and forth will very sound intelligent people of various tribes, none have been rude and toutish.

Please never quote me again, I don't talk with people like you sir

Thanks for understanding
Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by eeetuk(m): 4:11pm On Mar 22, 2022
"In what appeared a repudiation of the zoning arrangement, Sokoto Governor, Aminu Tambuwal, has told the leadership and stakeholders of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) to choose between zoning of its presidential ticket and winning the election"


I am against zoning , but arguing that the presidency will be won based on a candidate geopolitical location is outright tribalism. I think Governor Tambuwal as of today disqualified himself for injecting tribalism into Nigerian politics. And I think a person character and integrity should be at the forefront of who becomes next president of Nigeria in 2023 presidential.

What Nigerian people need now is someone who can help Nigeria to succeed, not which tribe or geopolitical location the person comes from.

Nigeria is a failed state because its past leaders have often been chosen based on tribe or geopolitical zone. Since it has not worked, we need to change course to new direction. And I don't think Governor Tambuwal represents the new direction Nigeria needs today or tomorrow.

I think South South geopolitical zone houses better qualified candidates than entire Northern Nigeria geopolitical zones. For an example, Goodluck Jonathan presidency was far better than Mohammad Buhari and OBJ administrations. Under president Obasanjo and Buhari , unemployment rates have become epidemic, terrorism has prospered, 15 millions have been driven out of their homes, kidnapping and Bantry have become uncontrollable. Furthermore, under Buhari and Obasanjo administrations hunger and poverty have overtaken Nigeria, murder rates have skyrocketed and migration of Nigerians to other countries have gone through the roof. That never happened under Goodluck Jonathan administration.

So, choosing someone from southeast, southwest or Northern Nigeria is a continuation to failed state.

Is failed state the right path for Nigeria in 2023?
Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by Nobody: 4:11pm On Mar 22, 2022
PDP currently cannot win presidential election with any candidate from South. What they need now is to collect power from an opposition party. Definitely, if they zone it to south, who might win will be a Christian and Tinubu will come over here in North to misinform them. I'm an Igbo living in the north. A Southern cannot win election under opposition mark my words! Who knows wike over here? How many voters power he has to win Tinubu but a cripple can win him if he or she is from North. PDD will decide either of winning election or losing another 8years by zoning it to south. Atiku will win Tinubu even without campaigning.
Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by SeeItSayIt: 4:46pm On Mar 22, 2022
If only PDP listened to people like you & your kind shouldn't even be on the list because you're serial political betrayer & prostitute.

Your kind neither care about success & solidification of any political party nor citizens development rather your selfish interest remains your uttermost priority.
Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by sematec(m): 4:46pm On Mar 22, 2022
This alone should open their eyes
Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by Niwdog(m): 4:49pm On Mar 22, 2022
All south east politician should strike a deal with the pDp, hand over the party ticket to a northerner after their tenure it should come to S/east,that was exactly what the south/west did in Apc, assume APC fielded a southerner against Jonathan that candidate will loose
The s/w are clamoring for APC ticket but believe me you they will loose the election if PDP throws up a northerner the only chance that would have been left for southern APC candidate was if APC had delivered half there electoral promises
Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by Sweeetheart(m): 4:53pm On Mar 22, 2022
athaboi:
This is just simple!
For now, the PDP just need to win the election then go back to look at justice. Even if the parties decide to zone their tickets to south east let's say PDP gives peter obi and APC gives orji kalu, Orji will still win bcoz they are in power and North will definitely vote their party! But a situation where APC gives a southerner their ticket let's say tinubu and PDP gives Atiku then forget it...Atiku will win. So it's either PDP stakeholders in the south have patience or they try and see how it ends


is this a romance section or what? political discourse is now a cheap topic to many of you kids here


Buhari had cult followers than Atiku in North yet he was defeated by incumbent before some people with power bloc supported him



politics is not Sit at home talk and ugm threat, you people should stop being funny with your political comedies analysis
Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by Niwdog(m): 4:56pm On Mar 22, 2022
David4best:
But Goodluck Jonathan defeated Buhari with a very large margin in 2011 presidential election where majority of Muslims voted for Buhari and majority of Christians voted for Goodluck Jonathan.(i.e the voting was purely along regional and religious lines) . Nigerians have short memories
how many top northern politicians were with buhari then?
Buhari defeated Goodluck in 2015 was because of the mass defections of northern cabal from pdp
No think say na tinubu make northerners vote buhari o
Why tinubu is relevant na because of the money wey him dey bring
Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by adelaja70(m): 4:56pm On Mar 22, 2022
Kingozymandias:
It's not the turn of the Southsouth, it's the turn of the southeast.
The silence of the Southeast should worry everyone .. rightfully it's our turn to elad this great nation.. we are not more bedeviled with problems than any other tribe yet we are being denied our rightful shot at the fixing this nation .
Some people have asked me have we fixed the southeast ? I laugh because other regions have ruled yet they are still battling myriad problems so why are my people being denied our turn?

Salty suddenly zoning that has been used by every region to secure the slot has been jettisoned now it's the turn of my people and it Futher makes us feel disenfranchised and and marginalized.

Then tomorrow you turn around and wonder why sesssionists had such a willing ear in the people to listen?

You can't deny a people their rights and make them feel less and expect them to willingly want to stay in Nigeria .. that is wrong and tantamount to bullying.

Who in his or her right conscience can say it's not the turn of the Igbos ? Please who can in good honest faith say this ?

Why push a people so hard to the point just telling yourself they can do nothing ? Really ? A nation can never be built by brute force but by inter Corporations and unity. Let me tell you my fellow NIGERIANS , IPOB didn't have up to 10% of the Igbo people support forget those iliterate touts and their social media propaganda. But to deny my people our right this time around for whatever reason is telling the remaining 90% of us who rejected ipob that maybe just maybe those touts have a point.

Yes power isn't given ,yes I agree but as ever other region had it zoned to them and a consensus picked so should it be done for the Southeast. To deny us our right is to do what Chinese is doing to Taiwan, to do what Israel doing to Palestine, to do what ImUAE is doing to shites..

Forget whatever we tell ourselves, each and every one of you my fellow country men and women know it's the turn of my people. I would have taught the great Asiwaju a defender of justice would have picked an Igbo man as his chosen candidate, that would have sent the message that he recodnizes that's it's rightfully our turn and that he stands for justice.

Anyways it's his right to run for office but like I said, to deny us is going to send a very strong message to every single Igbo man, woman ,boy and girl child that we are not recodnized and wanted in this country and I am afraid that would have a very dire repercussions in inter ethnic relations . I don't think buhari is in support of it not being an Igbo person infact I am shocked to admit from his a tions one can deduce he feels rightly it should be an Igbo person..


Alas time will tell

Who's denying them Abeg? I no understand.
Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by remiopash: 4:57pm On Mar 22, 2022
Kingozymandias:
It's not the turn of the Southsouth, it's the turn of the southeast.
The silence of the Southeast should worry everyone .. rightfully it's our turn to elad this great nation.. we are not more bedeviled with problems than any other tribe yet we are being denied our rightful shot at the fixing this nation .
Some people have asked me have we fixed the southeast ? I laugh because other regions have ruled yet they are still battling myriad problems so why are my people being denied our turn?

Salty suddenly zoning that has been used by every region to secure the slot has been jettisoned now it's the turn of my people and it Futher makes us feel disenfranchised and and marginalized.

Then tomorrow you turn around and wonder why sesssionists had such a willing ear in the people to listen?

You can't deny a people their rights and make them feel less and expect them to willingly want to stay in Nigeria .. that is wrong and tantamount to bullying.

Who in his or her right conscience can say it's not the turn of the Igbos ? Please who can in good honest faith say this ?

Why push a people so hard to the point just telling yourself they can do nothing ? Really ? A nation can never be built by brute force but by inter Corporations and unity. Let me tell you my fellow NIGERIANS , IPOB didn't have up to 10% of the Igbo people support forget those iliterate touts and their social media propaganda. But to deny my people our right this time around for whatever reason is telling the remaining 90% of us who rejected ipob that maybe just maybe those touts have a point.

Yes power isn't given ,yes I agree but as ever other region had it zoned to them and a consensus picked so should it be done for the Southeast. To deny us our right is to do what Chinese is doing to Taiwan, to do what Israel doing to Palestine, to do what ImUAE is doing to shites..

Forget whatever we tell ourselves, each and every one of you my fellow country men and women know it's the turn of my people. I would have taught the great Asiwaju a defender of justice would have picked an Igbo man as his chosen candidate, that would have sent the message that he recodnizes that's it's rightfully our turn and that he stands for justice.

Anyways it's his right to run for office but like I said, to deny us is going to send a very strong message to every single Igbo man, woman ,boy and girl child that we are not recodnized and wanted in this country and I am afraid that would have a very dire repercussions in inter ethnic relations . I don't think buhari is in support of it not being an Igbo person infact I am shocked to admit from his a tions one can deduce he feels rightly it should be an Igbo person..

Alas time will tell

PDP should have micro-zoned president to South East.
Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by athaboi(f): 5:01pm On Mar 22, 2022
Sweeetheart:



is this a romance section or what? political discourse is now a cheap topic to many of you kids here


Buhari had cult followers than Atiku in North yet he was defeated by incumbent before some people with power bloc supported him



politics is not Sit at home talk and ugm threat, you people should stop being funny with your political comedies analysis
I only respond to those with strong argument, I don't chat with noise makers so when you have anything to say then I will respond! By then I will tell you that you can't compare the era buahri was contesting alone without even a single state governor to PDP who have been in power for years and Atiku who came so close in 2019! Like I said, I don't chat with those who make noise and insults people around...bye
Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by Sweeetheart(m): 5:01pm On Mar 22, 2022
Niwdog:
All south east politician should strike a deal with the pDp, hand over the party ticket to a northerner after their tenure it should come to S/east,that was exactly what the south/west did in Apc, assume APC fielded a southerner against Jonathan that candidate will loose
The s/w are clamoring for APC ticket but believe me you they will loose the election if PDP throws up a northerner the only chance that would have been left for southern APC candidate was if APC had delivered half there electoral promises



shout yeast and their analysis, so handling over PDP ticket to North is the reason you've been looking for excuse to deny Anyim and Peter Obi?



if them born you people well after election cry marginalization, na Ogun go handle you people then
Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by TheAviator: 5:02pm On Mar 22, 2022
Kingozymandias:


Thank you for your sound counter points.. it is not aloofness of my people rather it is political nativity. To be frank we are not politicians by virtue of our cultural and tribal beliefs. We are more commerce.minded folks hence we came to the game of politics late and it shows in the blunders we sometimes make.
Having said that , yes the PDP has enjoyed strict partisan follwership by my people and the AOC has never been accepted by my people as it is viewers as a party that is Anti Igbo.

But the reality is, that Nigeria is currently in a fragile state , ther have been several calls for sesssion by several groups each pushing forward their ideologies..We all agree from history and data no group has suffered more marginalization than my ethnic group in Nigeria ? Hence why even recently an elder states man I can't recall his name postulated that it would be smart for buhari to finally put an end to this anti Igbo or rather igbophobia which groups like the ipob have been preaching .

And one doesn't have to have a bachelor's degree in political science to know that zoning the slot to the southeast would have been the best way to bury this sesssion insurgency. A nation can never been held together by the gun or fear because the human freewill is insurmountable.
Now like you rightly said it is expected PDP would zone it to the southeast so would the AoC have done to help solidify this one.Niheria narrative to counter the igbophobia being pandered by rebel groups like ipob..
But that was the faux Parse.. they decided that it doesn't concern the APC after all PDP has enjoyed Igbo loyalty just as you said ,now notice the money APC came.out to boldly say that they weren't zoning to the southeast that they didn't owe the southeast anything that's when splinter groups on the PDP dtarte dkicking against zoning too, they all suddenly found their voice ..

Formerly there was this unsaid expectation that now na the turn of Igbo make we see who APC go zone am to then boom immediately APC rejected this PDP followed suite...

Now we are at the cross roads... My worry is cricoes people like I roll in have never had any sympathy for Nnamdi Kanu or the murderous ipob... And I can boldly tell you that majority of my people do not like ipob and their methods .
But when you hear something even a lie repeated to you long enough one actually starts to believe it... Now this igbophobia and Igbo hate has been orwched by massob ohaneze and recently the violent agitation of ipob...
Meanwhile we all sat back and said boldy when it's our turn and one of us gets there I wonder what ipob will preach bubt alas today it seems like truly there is a silent agreement not to allow my people rule this nation.. it seems there is truth in their igbophobia message after all other wise tell me why are we even arguing over this?

It's a no brainer that by now we should be looking at Igbo candidates in various parties and comparing and contrasting but it's as if my tribe don't exist!

This is unfair and wring on every level..

This is not how a nation is built but this is definitely how a nation is scattered ..

I agree with you that an Igbo Presidency would reduce the agitations in the Southeast. But I don't think that there is a conspiracy to prevent Igbos from becoming President.

The issue is that strong Igbos such as Peter Obi and Orji Kalu should take the bull by the horn and run.

That Atiku and Tinubu are running does not mean that an Igbo aspirant can't win. The only thing that guarantees that an Igbo man will not emerge as President in 2023 is if Igbos don't join the race.

A former Director in DSS, who worked with Obasanjo, told me that power is not given to anybody, but people fight for it. He told me that despite Tinubu's role in the formation of the APC, nobody in APC will just give him the party's ticket. He said Tinubu needs to take some strategic steps and fight for it in order to get it. He went on to say that as someone who knew what was done to help Obasanjo defeat Abubakar Rimi when they both contested for PDP ticket in 2003, he could say that Tinubu is really doing what is required to get the Presidential ticket of APC.

His point is that anyone who wants the Presidency needs to fight for it, and according to him, Tinubu is really doing the necessary things to get it. He said that if Tinubu had sat down, while demanding for his party's ticket on the basis of the role he played in its formation, he would not get it. He said that but by the way he is fighting for it now, he is likely unstoppable.

This point applies to our Igbo brothers also. They need to join the race, take strategic steps, talk to people and persuade them. That's the only way anyone from any tribe can get the Presidency. In fact I expect Igbos from this moment to start putting serious pressure on formidable politicians from the Southeast to join the race and slug it out with other contestants from other regions.
Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by Sweeetheart(m): 5:06pm On Mar 22, 2022
athaboi:
I only respond to those with strong argument, I don't chat with noise makers so when you have anything to say then I will respond! By then I will tell you that you can't compare the era buahri was contesting alone without even a single state governor to PDP who have been in power for years and Atiku who came so close in 2019! Like I said, I don't chat with those who make noise and insults people around...bye



Buhari with Cult followers if you know what that means couldn't thrash an incumbent southerner but your Atiku will do the wonders?



so no igbo president in 2023? may we not be confused like shout yeast people o


President Tinubu should just arrest any Nyanmiri that caused sit at home after his election, is making these people to think backward
Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by Niwdog(m): 5:07pm On Mar 22, 2022
Kingozymandias:


I get your point, being that since Igbos chipped their tent majorly with PaDP then that's where our main grievance should be borne? You are correct but like I said. This isn't emotional blackmail, even from your right up it shows you are a man of honour and also acknowledge it's the right turn of the Igbos albeit partisan to pdp but still .

Now the right would have been for every party to feild an Igbo candidate in am ideal world ,but alas.we aren't in am ideal world.. unfortunately the reality is not giviing us our turn will not go well and all politicial elders in our nation are echoing the same tune.
no mind the guy you quoted
Before 1999 election the Igbos we're more dominant in PDP just like tinubu invested alot in this present Apc was the way Igbos did in the then PDP but alas for equity it was given to obj who know nothing about PDP
Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by FoolishBoy419: 5:09pm On Mar 22, 2022
Kingozymandias:
It's not the turn of the Southsouth, it's the turn of the southeast.
The silence of the Southeast should worry everyone .. rightfully it's our turn to elad this great nation.. we are not more bedeviled with problems than any other tribe yet we are being denied our rightful shot at the fixing this nation .
Some people have asked me have we fixed the southeast ? I laugh because other regions have ruled yet they are still battling myriad problems so why are my people being denied our turn?

Salty suddenly zoning that has been used by every region to secure the slot has been jettisoned now it's the turn of my people and it Futher makes us feel disenfranchised and and marginalized.

Then tomorrow you turn around and wonder why sesssionists had such a willing ear in the people to listen?

You can't deny a people their rights and make them feel less and expect them to willingly want to stay in Nigeria .. that is wrong and tantamount to bullying.

Who in his or her right conscience can say it's not the turn of the Igbos ? Please who can in good honest faith say this ?

Why push a people so hard to the point just telling yourself they can do nothing ? Really ? A nation can never be built by brute force but by inter Corporations and unity. Let me tell you my fellow NIGERIANS , IPOB didn't have up to 10% of the Igbo people support forget those iliterate touts and their social media propaganda. But to deny my people our right this time around for whatever reason is telling the remaining 90% of us who rejected ipob that maybe just maybe those touts have a point.

Yes power isn't given ,yes I agree but as ever other region had it zoned to them and a consensus picked so should it be done for the Southeast. To deny us our right is to do what Chinese is doing to Taiwan, to do what Israel doing to Palestine, to do what ImUAE is doing to shites..

Forget whatever we tell ourselves, each and every one of you my fellow country men and women know it's the turn of my people. I would have taught the great Asiwaju a defender of justice would have picked an Igbo man as his chosen candidate, that would have sent the message that he recodnizes that's it's rightfully our turn and that he stands for justice.

Anyways it's his right to run for office but like I said, to deny us is going to send a very strong message to every single Igbo man, woman ,boy and girl child that we are not recodnized and wanted in this country and I am afraid that would have a very dire repercussions in inter ethnic relations . I don't think buhari is in support of it not being an Igbo person infact I am shocked to admit from his a tions one can deduce he feels rightly it should be an Igbo person..

Alas time will tell


To be honest, social media has turned me to an Igbo hater and I have never wanted to see them in Aso Rock but this post moved me. This is why one should never allow the wrong side to be too loud.

Honestly speaking, The hate-filled Nnamdi Kanu followers have successfully made a lot of enemies for your tribe. Before 2017, it was highly unlikely to hear anyone in my state (Kaduna) insulting the Igbos but nowadays, few people say good things about the tribe and IPOB is solely responsible.

They used insecurity (which ironically, has killed more Northern muslims than Igbos) to call northerners animals, to call the north's second largest ethnic group, Fulanis all sorts of names just because a few criminals among them were killing people.

There are a lot of Igbo men that would be perfect for Nigeria but I'm afraid, it's highly unlikely for them to succeed because the amount of anti-Igbo sentiment in the north these days is alarming.

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Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by VEHINTOLAR: 5:12pm On Mar 22, 2022
Kingozymandias:


I get your point, being that since Igbos chipped their tent majorly with PaDP then that's where our main grievance should be borne? You are correct but like I said. This isn't emotional blackmail, even from your right up it shows you are a man of honour and also acknowledge it's the right turn of the Igbos albeit partisan to pdp but still .

Now the right would have been for every party to feild an Igbo candidate in am ideal world ,but alas.we aren't in am ideal world.. unfortunately the reality is not giviing us our turn will not go well and all politicial elders in our nation are echoing the same tune.

Why should every party field an Igbo candidate ? What political injustice have Igbo suffered to actually make them deserving of such privilege ? Yoruba people were robbed of their victory in 1993 through the infamous annulment of election that was clearly won by Bashorun MKO Abiola. Even the international community strongly condemned that injustice.

So,if the two dominant political parties - SDP and NRC of that era decided to field Yoruba candidates alone, isn't that understandable ? Abiola paid the price for that arrangement to be possible and that's a fact ! The question now is that on what basis should all political parties in Nigeria field Igbo candidates only ?

Igbo can't be saying it is their turn to rule too just because other regions have ruled in the past. That sounds like a blackmail,emotional one ! Has anybody ever stopped Igbo people from contesting for the Presidency of Nigeria ? In actual fact,have they not been contesting for the position ? What Igbo people are practically asking for is that other Nigerians should just give them the presidency because they (Igbo) are yet to rule Nigeria like others ! Who does that in a democracy ? My dear Igbo people,you truly have to work for it; it won't be given to you ! As for 2023,candidate of Igbo extraction stands no chance !
Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by timo90(m): 5:13pm On Mar 22, 2022
Atiku is the only candidate that can defeat apc in 2023
Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by Niwdog(m): 5:14pm On Mar 22, 2022
Sweeetheart:




shout yeast and their analysis, so handling over PDP ticket to North is the reason you've been looking for excuse to deny Anyim and Peter Obi?



if them born you people well after election cry marginalization, na Ogun go handle you people then
your people did it in 2015
So what's wrong in doing it
You cried that you were being marginalized under goodluck so you created APC but went ahead and fielded a northerner so you can get the power. Southeast will also play the game so chilax and drink your ewedu
Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by Kingozymandias(m): 5:18pm On Mar 22, 2022
TheAviator:


I agree with you that an Igbo Presidency would reduce the agitations in the Southeast. But I don't think that there is a conspiracy to prevent Igbos from becoming President.

The issue is that strong Igbos such as Peter Obi and Orji Kalu should take the bull by the horn and run.

That Atiku and Tinubu are running does not mean that an Igbo aspirant can't win. The only thing that guarantees that an Igbo man will not emerge as President in 2023 is if Igbos don't join the race.

A former Director in DSS, who worked with Obasanjo, told me that power is not given to anybody, but people fight for it. He told me that despite Tinubu's role in the formation of the APC, nobody in APC will just give him the party's ticket. He said Tinubu needs to take some strategic steps and fight for it in order to get it. He went on to say that as someone who knew what was done to help Obasanjo defeat Abubakar Rimi when they both contested for PDP ticket in 2003, he could say that Tinubu is really doing what is required to get the Presidential ticket of APC.

His point is that anyone who wants the Presidency needs to fight for it, and according to him, Tinubu is really doing the necessary things to get it. He said that if Tinubu had sat down, while demanding for his party's ticket on the basis of the role he played in its formation, he would not get it. He said that but by the way he is fighting for it now, he is likely unstoppable.

This point applies to our Igbo brothers also. They need to join the race, take strategic steps, talk to people and persuade them. That's the only way anyone from any tribe can get the Presidency. In fact I expect Igbos from this moment to start putting serious pressure on formidable politicians from the Southeast to join the race and slug it out with other contestants from other regions.

Comrade it's is fair to say you have bested me with superior arguement and I ceeede on this occasion.

Seems we need to tell our desired leaders to come up and take position. Like I told one othe remember for long my tribe allowed chatallans and iliterates take the fore while we the more savvy and enlightened stayed in the rear, not anymore.
Thank you for this warm enlightening exchange I truly enjoyed it comrade...

At the end a better Nigeria for all ethnic groups is all we want..

Cheers and enjoy the rest of your evening as we say in Igbo , Daly nwannem (translates to thank you my brother)

Cheers

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Re: Zoning Vs Winning The Election: South-South Cannot Win Presidency - Tambuwal by Kellibae(f): 5:20pm On Mar 22, 2022
Emeskhalifa:


This has been my thought everyday. Except APC pick their presidential candidate from South, pdp doesn't stand a chance with a Southern presidential candidate

Buhari is picking Timipreye silver.

Bookmark this .
U heard it from me first

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