It's about the system. Not even the parties only a working system checks the ills of a society. But ours enables corruption. We know that's the truth but of course no one wants to kill what will kit his kin and kickbacks.

If you vote for individual, after winning election they will decamp to the ruling party.
Nigerian politicians can't be trusted.

If only our Northern Brothers will hear.

FERNANDEZISBACK:
Simple but some will never agree with you..
The ultimate blame for bad results must go to the citizens... they elect the men who write the laws..that create the conditions in which the people will prosper or perish...

The voter must be fully informed and know clearly for whom and what he/she is voting...So ultimate responsibility for bad laws and policies goes to the citizens and especially those who aren’t politically engaged at all...

People get the Government they deserve... If people believe that their religion or language identity is more important than the economic policies and performances of the Government then even a good politician cannot do much in power..

The time to prepare for an election in Nigeria is 3years before one. Ibiyeomie has nothing to say here.
Fulani have been More prepared.

Where's the vision? All these old recycled politicians that keep bearing every party's flag? The ones with vision, are they even allowed to smell primaries?

Ternistacle:
Yah that's actually our problem here in Nigeria...
Vote the person not the party...
But what if the person you wanna vote for is in the wrong party...

No matter who is there, nothing will change.....
It's difficult to rule a people that over 60% are poor/illiterate......

Massiveglory:
He is right. Enough of all these Mediocres politicians and desperadose looking for retirement when they should resting or be Elderly statesmen..
Nigeria needs people with will power and guts to correct abnormalities in the Nation and not mediocres and corrupt men.

How is he right?

Is it because he owns a big Church?

What he said can only make sense if our system begins to allow independent candidacy. Otherwise, he hasn't said anything.

I go advice am to mind him business, otherwise politicians too go advice tithe payers to give directly to the needy instead of pastors...

legallyminded:
It's about the system. Not even the parties only a working system checks the ills of a society. [b]But ours enables corruption. [/b]We know that's the truth but of course no one wants to kill what will kit his kin and kickbacks.

You are right,..... that is common to the poor/developing nations..... Nigeria is one of them....

desiredhome:

No matter who is there, nothing will change.....
It's difficult to rule a people that over 60% are poor/illiterate......

Very true!

Ask Ibiyeomie how well he has ruled his Church?

We he be willing to 'take a break' from Salvation Ministries make another person chop small?

The illiteracy and poverty levels in Africa are alarming.

taiyesoul:
ABSOUTELY.

AND DONT GIVE YOUR HARD-EARNED MONEY TO PASTORS AGAIN TOO. GIVE IT TO PEOPLE IN DIRE NEED!

The last time I checked. Pastor are not responsible for light, good roads, security, national education, health etc

Let pastor be and face people you vote into power

Odewaleadesoye:


Source: https://dailypost.ng/2022/03/29/2023-dont-vote-for-party-again-in-nigeria-ibiyeomie/

This would have been more demanding but the nature of election in Nigeria is determined by the party.
It is the party that contests for election in Nigeria and not the individual.
looking at everything, it appears we are recycling leaders.
God help us

Shut up. If our country is run 50 or 60% of the way the church is run, the country will not be in the mess it is.

CoolAmbience:



How is he right?

Is it because he owns a big Church?

What he said can only make sense if our system begins to allow independent candidacy. Otherwise, he hasn't said anything.

I go advice am to mind him business, otherwise politicians too go advice tithe payers to give directly to the needy instead of pastors...

CoolAmbience:



Very true!

Ask Ibiyeomie how well he has ruled his Church?

We he be willing to 'take a break' from Salvation Ministries make another person chop small?

The illiteracy and poverty levels in Africa are alarming.

Lol @ taking a break....... there's no difference between some of these pastor(pastorprenours) and the politicians.....

They both living large on the people's money.......

Tinubu urchins are not hearing you

Massiveglory:
Shut up. If our country is run 50 or 60% of the way the church is run, the country will not be in the mess it is.

You are not correct.....it's these churches(religion) that are the measure problem......most of them work hand in hand with these politicians......
They encourage the corrupt politicians..

ednut1:
419 pastor. How do you see vision How do you see vision when hunger dey wire you

I know that one idiot must stroll into this thread but behold you turned out to be the one . Mr food, your own problem seems to be generational

Those big parties will rig it. I'm not yet convinced our votes count in this messed up nation.

desiredhome:


Lol @ taking a break....... there's no difference between some of these pastor(pastorprenours) and the politicians.....

They both living large on the people's money.......

You dey mind dem?

Dem wan be GO forever, yet dem want politicians to just do small, enter house.

Dem worse pass politicians sef.

desiredhome:

You are not correct.....it's these churches(religion) that are the measure problem......most of them work hand in hand with these politicians......
They encourage the corrupt politicians..

You are wrong.

You claim that the churches are the major problem.

Is it because of churches you don't have stable electricity?

Is it because of churches you don't have good roads?

is it because of churches you don't have good healthcare?

Take some time to think of it and you will find out the problem is NO!

The politicians steal the money and don't share it with pastors, so I am not sure what you mean by they work hand in hand with politicians.

Maybe you can explain.

ecolime:
"A statesman thinks about the next generation while a politician thinks of 2023.

“Anybody thinking about 2023 is a politician, he will win, he will destroy you. If you take money to vote, you have sold your conscience”[i][/i]

I really wish all the Tinubu and BMC morons here will take heed

You are one of the problem of this country.
Not even on a thread where everyone should sober,use their sense and be thinking of moving ahead.

Now me as a Tinubu fan will see this then attack u back Cox u and I are of same coin just that ure in PDP disguising to wanting good governance meanwhile we aren't better..

You useless people made me love Tinubu with incessant attack, I didn't even know him anywhere but I was forced to check out his wrong doings exactly and discovered u guys have nothing against Tinubu just jealousy and hatred.

That was how I became a Tinubu fan automatically. Just like many out there.

If we check well ure codedly for ATIKU and here blaming Tinubu..

U and I need good resetting flogging so that we can stop unnecessary Political competition and for once decide to vote a better candidate.

CoolAmbience:



You dey mind dem?

Dem wan be GO forever, yet dem want politicians to just do small, enter house.

Dem worse pass politicians sef.

They will not refuse the bags of money the politicians give to them......yet they keep talking as if they are saints......
They are Wolf in sheep's clothing according to the Bible...... deceiving their gullible followers

blowjohn:
So one needs vision in order to tackle insecurity??

In this context vision means foresight or planning.

Massiveglory:
Shut up. If our country is run 50 or 60% of the way the church is run, the country will not be in the mess it is.

See this brainwashed fellow!

You call ripping people off their monies and living in opulence a great way to run any system?

The church is way worse off. Are their schools affordable? No! Do they pay taxes? No!

They engage pastors and pay them peanuts, and they go about bragging about having created jobs?

CoolAmbience:



You dey mind dem?

Dem wan be GO forever, yet dem want politicians to just do small, enter house.

Dem worse pass politicians sef.

You just dey find talk.

Is there any part of the Bible or the constitution that says after 4 or 8 years a pastor should handover the ministry he heads to another person?

Please show me.

Thanks.

CapnMike:


You just dey find talk.

Is there any part of the Bible or the constitution that says after 4 or 8 years a pastor should handover the ministry he heads to another person?

Please show me.

Thanks.

Is there any law in Nigeria requiring Nigerians not to vote party candidates but independent candidates?

Is there even any such thing independent candidacy in Nigeria?

What was your pastor even talking about?

See how you are struggling just to justify your pastor... was it the Bible that told them to buy private jets and live lavish lifestyles as they now do, since you are now suggesting that they only rely on the Bible for everything they do?

They even pray on the laptops of Yahoo boy and receive all kinds of material gifts from individuals with known questionable means and characters. Are they also acting in accordance to the Bible?

CapnMike:


You are wrong.

You claim that the churches are the major problem.

Is it because of churches you don't have stable electricity?

Is it because of churches you don't have good roads?

is it because of churches you don't have good healthcare?

Take some time to think of it and you will find out the problem is NO!

The politicians steal the money and don't share it with pastors, so I am not sure what you mean by they work hand in hand with politicians.

Maybe you can explain.

The pastorprenours uses church to commit evil and because you may not understand.....

How do the church make money? ... through collections from their member etc.....

Everytime the politicians want to go for elections they go to these pastorprenours and they don't go with empty hand ........ Politicians uses some of these pastorprenours private jet to launder money..........
There are cases of big government officials that defraud their company/ministry to give to their church.....
This is the least I can explain.....you can Google and get some more ........
There's no difference between Nigerian pastorprenours and the politicians....

Thank God say u be Yoruba man,you better talk to ur pple,the politician they sold to us in 2015,is still on our neck.i dont know how many people that will surviv befor he exit the stage,now they have come again with another one.but God will not allow them this time.

ednut1:
419 pastor. How do you see vision How do you see vision when hunger dey wire you

stop being silly my friend!!