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Re: Business Owners, Whats Your Experience With Bad Staff by shantti(m): 4:34pm On Mar 30, 2022
SmartyPants:


That post was typed in the heat of anger. I've deleted it.

May your business grow and may your generosity grow with it.

Cheers.

Amen and cheers too
Re: Business Owners, Whats Your Experience With Bad Staff by Kajaard: 4:36pm On Mar 30, 2022
kingphilip:
I have a policy I feel every employee should always stick with.

This policy is, it is either I put in 100% of efforts and time into my job or I resign.

If I feel the pay is way less than I should be earning, I rather resign than not putting in my best or result to sharp practices.

Exactly.
Re: Business Owners, Whats Your Experience With Bad Staff by n3xt(m): 4:36pm On Mar 30, 2022
Crafteck1:
My friend owns liquor store, sells hundreds of thousands a day but accountability is never easy, he caught one of his boys stealing a pack of andre(4500x6),on arresting him he discovered his its been going on for long, a boy on 20k salary has been lodging in 25k per night hotels, on checking his phine, he de use drink of 60k wash hand for club, dey carry different gitls up an down, using 180k iPhone still bought same phone for a girl..


Do you know the number of Nigerian companies that used thousands of Dollars to send the staff abroad for two to three years training with the expectation the staff will work for them for at least 10 years, all of a sudden when the stuff is done he decides that he is bigger than the job and leaves, do you think the company would ever try that with anyone else workers are the most poisonous of all, generally they don have pity, they would steal until the business crashes.

I had a fair of bad employee. I hired an underperformer.

I decided to employ a friend who lost his job some years back.

He was not only a misfit. He was an underperformer in a business that requires agile and proactive managers.

On one occasion, I sent him to oversee a project in Port Harcourt but he messed up the deal with his complacency.
In spite of this, I didn’t let him go because of my emotions and because of the perceived need of the business as at that time. The business (construction) was under-staffed as we were having projects in multiple locations and there’s need for more experienced supervisors. Laying off staffs who have gone through our mentorship program wasn’t an option then.

Keeping the underperforming staff further caused unnecessary strain on the business, other staffs, customers, and on the company revenues until I decided to cut off tie with him.

Now, I’ve learnt to outsource some part of my business to other businesses instead of employing more staffs.

I’ve learnt over the year that businesses in Nigeria would do better if they focus on the area of core competence and outsource their worries to other businesses who are doing well in that front.

Being a business owner/founder doesn’t automatically make you a good manager.

Bad managers make bad employees.

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Re: Business Owners, Whats Your Experience With Bad Staff by toprealman: 4:56pm On Mar 30, 2022
Crafteck1:


The policies were based on trust.
You don't make policies on trust.
If you come back from NBC's training and say you want to leave next day, they will not hold you back. You already know what score it is. Design a robust policy and modify as you grow and events unfold
Re: Business Owners, Whats Your Experience With Bad Staff by timefarm(m): 5:34pm On Mar 30, 2022
englishmart:
I won a contract sometime in 2018, hired a team of 25 well paid experts and a couple of maladroit workers who we prefer to call labours. During the project, one of my staff cornered a potential contract that I had been pursuing. A contract that was worth at least #24m. He accepted to execute the project for 13m, and was paid a mobilisation of 6.5m to commence.
To cut the story short, this very Yoruba snitch did a bad job, wasted materials and couldn't deliver 1/10th the project. He later begged me to help him finish up the project but the amount he bargained was far below par. Ebn the cost of workmanship alone was worth more. He was later arrested, detained and currently serving at Ikoyi prison. As a kind-hearted Man from the east, I've been working arduously to get him out on bail. The bail is 5.3m, and I'm confident he'll be out soon.
Though I still hobnob with Yoruba guys, but I ensure it's done with at least a 3.3km long spoon
Typical foolish tribalistic post from Yoruba greatest enemy.

From hating Tinubu to others, you will never meet us. You can die with your hate.

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Re: Business Owners, Whats Your Experience With Bad Staff by Oyiboman69: 5:43pm On Mar 30, 2022
GloriousGbola:


That is stealing. Go and create your own business then. You are using your dad's investment, assets and infrastructure.

If you think it is so easy go and pay rent, buy machines, get contacts, get employees, pay bills, settle authorities

I am outlining this because you are a thief even if you want to pretend you are a sharp hustler
Abeg go Sidon jare....
Re: Business Owners, Whats Your Experience With Bad Staff by onilanre(m): 5:43pm On Mar 30, 2022
englishmart:
I won a contract sometime in 2018, hired a team of 25 well paid experts and a couple of maladroit workers who we prefer to call labours. During the project, one of my staff cornered a potential contract that I had been pursuing. A contract that was worth at least #24m. He accepted to execute the project for 13m, and was paid a mobilisation of 6.5m to commence.
To cut the story short, this very Yoruba snitch did a bad job, wasted materials and couldn't deliver 1/10th the project. He later begged me to help him finish up the project but the amount he bargained was far below par. Ebn the cost of workmanship alone was worth more. He was later arrested, detained and currently serving at Ikoyi prison. As a kind-hearted Man from the east, I've been working arduously to get him out on bail. The bail is 5.3m, and I'm confident he'll be out soon.
Though I still hobnob with Yoruba guys, but I ensure it's done with at least a 3.3km long spoon

Oga, it's not all Yoruba guys that behave like that.

I was the first set of people that introduced Vehicle tracker to Abuja market back in 2012. Though the business was my side hustle, so I was transferred to cross river state.

Then I employed a guy from Enugu state and I taught him how to install the trackers. The guy sold all my trackers, kept the money for the installation to himself and lied to me that other engineers bought the tracker and install it themselves.

He went further to import trackers behind me using my company. In short, he recked my business and travelled out.

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Re: Business Owners, Whats Your Experience With Bad Staff by Iamsofavoured(m): 5:49pm On Mar 30, 2022
Hope you know you Igbo guys are worst when it comes to snitching and backstabbing? Ire o.
englishmart:
I won a contract sometime in 2018, hired a team of 25 well paid experts and a couple of maladroit workers who we prefer to call labours. During the project, one of my staff cornered a potential contract that I had been pursuing. A contract that was worth at least #24m. He accepted to execute the project for 13m, and was paid a mobilisation of 6.5m to commence.
To cut the story short, this very Yoruba snitch did a bad job, wasted materials and couldn't deliver 1/10th the project. He later begged me to help him finish up the project but the amount he bargained was far below par. Ebn the cost of workmanship alone was worth more. He was later arrested, detained and currently serving at Ikoyi prison. As a kind-hearted Man from the east, I've been working arduously to get him out on bail. The bail is 5.3m, and I'm confident he'll be out soon.
Though I still hobnob with Yoruba guys, but I ensure it's done with at least a 3.3km long spoon

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Re: Business Owners, Whats Your Experience With Bad Staff by lordally(m): 6:09pm On Mar 30, 2022
djflexcy:
Does anyone knows how I can find my way to Jibowu from Ajah please, by public bus

From Ajah enter bus going to OSHODI... then from Oshodi enter bus going to MUSHIN... the. When you get to mushin move forward till you see one TOTAL filling station of so then ask any of the keke or bus drivers where you can take Keke or bus going to JIBOWU
Re: Business Owners, Whats Your Experience With Bad Staff by udemzyudex(m): 6:39pm On Mar 30, 2022
HUSTLER001:
The boy caught is stupid! I remember when i use to run my late dad beer palour.On weekends we make the most sales&that is when i apply wisdom.I remeber back then,when you sell three crates of beer,the profit on top of it is enough to buy one crate.So, i buy one crate with the profit and make my personal profit before replacing the crate of beer.So,i'm doing dads biz and also doing my biz and in the end no one is cheated. A mutual association is attained and the record book is balanced.

You're doing dad's business,is he making profit from what you just analyse now cos you're the one taking the profit.

Yet when you open your own business and things don't go the way you plan,you start blaming the devil and forget the law of karma.
Re: Business Owners, Whats Your Experience With Bad Staff by Ruggedpen: 6:43pm On Mar 30, 2022
The set of staff are the doing professional work that you depends on, if you have no alternative, be ready to train your brother in that same line business. I employ the strategy to take charge of my business from one toxic staff I brought from Lagos to work for me, I gave him accommodation, he left without informing me, I lock the place and send my brother to learn the business, and today he is making it, although family members has Their own problem too
Re: Business Owners, Whats Your Experience With Bad Staff by Dermie: 7:24pm On Mar 30, 2022
Re: Business Owners, Whats Your Experience With Bad Staff by Eminado1: 7:59pm On Mar 30, 2022
Someone once said that in looking for people to hire, you look for three qualities: integrity, intelligence abd hardworking. If you do not have the first quality, the other two will kill you. You think about it; its true. If you hire someone without integrity, you really want them to be dumb and lazy.

I am not negating the other two traits as deemed of lesser importance. You absolutely need intelligence in a knowledge economy. Hardwork is the fuel that propels passion and motivation.

But integrity is non-negotiable.

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Re: Business Owners, Whats Your Experience With Bad Staff by 18wheeler: 9:24pm On Mar 30, 2022
SmartyPants:


25k a month as a manager?

Are you and your wife wicked?

We aren't. He was not manager in the real sense but was a worker actually. He fed the birds, collected droppings and picked eggs. Cleaning and disinfection was done by a specialist whom we hired and paid per call.
To make it clearer, the feeders and drinkers are semi automated. He filled one container and the system distributed round the troughs with minimal human effort for the feeds but water system was fully auto. The droppings were collected on paper sheets below the battery cages housing the birds so he only needed to pull the paper off and fold them then replace. Farm has a room, toilet and kitchen for accommodation so he didn't pay any rent or transport. Theres an overhead tank connected to his apartment with water flowing 24/7. There's also a brooding room which I didnt use so he used it as extra room for some of his stuff (this accommodation could cost up to 50k p.a if it was rented as per Jos levels). I also allowed him to do his bike business for 4 hours daily after he finished his routine. Sundays were free for him because my wife did the routine herself. It was a fair deal that's why he begged to remain but the damage he did was too much and he had to leave.
Re: Business Owners, Whats Your Experience With Bad Staff by Aaay: 9:41pm On Mar 30, 2022
Oh
Re: Business Owners, Whats Your Experience With Bad Staff by AgentGoat: 10:38pm On Mar 30, 2022
somehow:
In 2014/2014, 2 staff crashed $3000 belonging to a client then, got to know very late because it was on a Friday and I was busy outside Lagos.

Discovered the next day but couldn't do anything about the losses until Monday.

Fired them thereafter.

Employed one few months later to replace the 2 but gave him just 10% portfolio of what was previously lost to see what he could do.

3 months later, we made nothing from his table, he kept the capital intact with no profit/loss but overhead cost and his weekly allowance wasted.

Had to let him go too.

Business in Nigeria is tough.

What type of business is this?
Re: Business Owners, Whats Your Experience With Bad Staff by Ungodly: 11:05pm On Mar 30, 2022
Crafteck1:
My friend owns liquor store, sells hundreds of thousands a day but accountability is never easy, he caught one of his boys stealing a pack of andre(4500x6),on arresting him he discovered his its been going on for long, a boy on 20k salary has been lodging in 25k per night hotels, on checking his phine, he de use drink of 60k wash hand for club, dey carry different gitls up an down, using 180k iPhone still bought same phone for a girl..


Do you know the number of Nigerian companies that used thousands of Dollars to send the staff abroad for two to three years training with the expectation the staff will work for them for at least 10 years, all of a sudden when the stuff is done he decides that he is bigger than the job and leaves, do you think the company would ever try that with anyone else workers are the most poisonous of all, generally they don have pity, they would steal until the business crashes.
Lol I can’t even start talking about my own experience, #3M business went down the drain in the space of 10months, why? Because I didn’t oversee it myself… It was my fault, I’m suspecting your friend didn’t monitor his business himself too, and that’s a deadly mistake… well I learnt the the hard way so I know better now. If anyone would ask me for an advice about business, the first thing I’d tell the person is “Any business you’re not ready to supervise or keep an eye on by yourself, don’t put your money in it” shikena.
Re: Business Owners, Whats Your Experience With Bad Staff by somehow: 6:19am On Mar 31, 2022
AgentGoat:


What type of business is this?

Funds/portfolio managing business. (Finance)
Re: Business Owners, Whats Your Experience With Bad Staff by HUSTLER001: 7:34pm On Mar 31, 2022
udemzyudex:


You're doing dad's business,is he making profit from what you just analyse now cos you're the one taking the profit.

Yet when you open your own business and things don't go the way you plan,you start blaming the devil and forget the law of karma.
you don't have sense! The 170 people that liked my reply understand better.

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Re: Business Owners, Whats Your Experience With Bad Staff by HUSTLER001: 7:35pm On Mar 31, 2022
perambulator:


you are stealing/cheating because you deliberately have not informed your boss (Dad) that actually his business has the capacity for 4 crates, instead you denied him access to the profit from the 4th crate which his business can handle.......so you have stolen from him. The fact that he didnt know does not make it anything other than theft.

This is the problem with Nigerian staff, if they are not damaging your business, they are preventing it from growing. you cant even trust your own child, talk less strangers. The idiot thinks he is sharp not knowing he is bringing curses upon himself.
ode

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Re: Business Owners, Whats Your Experience With Bad Staff by HUSTLER001: 7:37pm On Mar 31, 2022
wreckormend:


Still dubious. Those profits you made aren't still yours. The freezer that got the drinks chilled isn't yours. The power, the sound, the environment belongs to your dad. You ripped him off under the guise of being business savvy. You were nothing but a crook. Try this with me, better don't get caught, lest, the aftermath will be too sour to be told
see who is calling someone 'crook'? slowpoke! Stay off my mention.

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Re: Business Owners, Whats Your Experience With Bad Staff by HUSTLER001: 7:38pm On Mar 31, 2022
DenreleDave:
You are as stupid as the boy the OP mentioned if you think u av done well You people will just comment nonsense..
You are an idiot! Complete one.

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Re: Business Owners, Whats Your Experience With Bad Staff by udemzyudex(m): 7:52pm On Mar 31, 2022
HUSTLER001:
you don't have sense! The 170 people that liked my reply understand better.

The 170 people that like your post are either stupid and don't understand that you're a thief or simply lack common sense.

You're a thief in disguise, forming smart.
Na so most of una dey do, Igbo miscreants.
Re: Business Owners, Whats Your Experience With Bad Staff by DUNKA(m): 7:58pm On Mar 31, 2022
n3xt:


I had a fair of bad employee. I hired an underperformer.

I decided to employ a friend who lost his job some years back.

He was not only a misfit. He was an underperformer in a business that requires agile and proactive managers.

On one occasion, I sent him to oversee a project in Port Harcourt but he messed up the deal with his complacency.
In spite of this, I didn’t let him go because of my emotions and because of the perceived need of the business as at that time. The business (construction) was under-staffed as we were having projects in multiple locations and there’s need for more experienced supervisors. Laying off staffs who have gone through our mentorship program wasn’t an option then.

Keeping the underperforming staff further caused unnecessary strain on the business, other staffs, customers, and on the company revenues until I decided to cut off tie with him.

Now, I’ve learnt to outsource some part of my business to other businesses instead of employing more staffs.

I’ve learnt over the year that businesses in Nigeria would do better if they focus on the area of core competence and outsource their worries to other businesses who are doing well in that front.

Being a business owner/founder doesn’t automatically make you a good manager.

Bad managers make bad employees.
Be careful with any transaction With this user aka Bosun Davies Shoyeye. He claims be a builder but he is a confirmed thief and criminal. Do not take my word for it check out the true story in this thread below: https://www.nairaland.com/2550211/general-topic-thread-to-discuss-anything/2894#111535883.

He has scammed 12 known users on this platform as he is an unprofessional and unqualified quack builder who uses packaging to cheat and duped his clients


Buyers beware
Re: Business Owners, Whats Your Experience With Bad Staff by DUNKA(m): 8:01pm On Mar 31, 2022
n3xt:


I had a fair of bad employee. I hired an underperformer.

I decided to employ a friend who lost his job some years back.

He was not only a misfit. He was an underperformer in a business that requires agile and proactive managers.

On one occasion, I sent him to oversee a project in Port Harcourt but he messed up the deal with his complacency.
In spite of this, I didn’t let him go because of my emotions and because of the perceived need of the business as at that time. The business (construction) was under-staffed as we were having projects in multiple locations and there’s need for more experienced supervisors. Laying off staffs who have gone through our mentorship program wasn’t an option then.

Keeping the underperforming staff further caused unnecessary strain on the business, other staffs, customers, and on the company revenues until I decided to cut off tie with him.

Now, I’ve learnt to outsource some part of my business to other businesses instead of employing more staffs.

I’ve learnt over the year that businesses in Nigeria would do better if they focus on the area of core competence and outsource their worries to other businesses who are doing well in that front.

Being a business owner/founder doesn’t automatically make you a good manager.

Bad managers make bad employees.

Below is the list of tbe 12 known users cheated by this fraudster.

They were unfortunately taking in by Bosuns internet presentations and packaging duly encouraged by the fact that the owner of Nairaland is unwilling or unable to take necessary action on this confirmed Fraud parading as a builder.

1.Mavverick
2. Yincalley
3. babalose
4. Nairaner
5. qc1
6. Brag3
7. 3strikes
8. Vimo3
9. Neophytemason
10. Jaydacosair
11. Ahonahoi
12. Somehow

Kindly search each and every username in the search bar to see the tales of woe and lamentation of this unqualified builder who is a thief and a fraud.

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Re: Business Owners, Whats Your Experience With Bad Staff by DenreleDave(m): 8:10pm On Mar 31, 2022
HUSTLER001:
I am an idiot! Complete one.
Re: Business Owners, Whats Your Experience With Bad Staff by HUSTLER001: 10:10pm On Mar 31, 2022
udemzyudex:


The 170 people that like your post are either stupid and don't understand that you're a thief or simply lack common sense.

You're a thief in disguise, forming smart.
Na so most of una dey do, Igbo miscreants.
I won't engage you again. You speak like an illiterate.

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Re: Business Owners, Whats Your Experience With Bad Staff by udemzyudex(m): 1:22am On Apr 01, 2022
HUSTLER001:
I won't engage you again. You speak like an illiterate.

Can you imagine this thief calling someone an illiterate grin truth be told,you're the illiterate here.
Re: Business Owners, Whats Your Experience With Bad Staff by HUSTLER001: 5:46am On Apr 01, 2022
udemzyudex:


Can you imagine this thief calling someone an illiterate grin truth be told,you're the illiterate here.

The funny thing here is that you can't say same If we meet face to face.You wouldn't be ready for the consequences. I go run into you like trailer!
Re: Business Owners, Whats Your Experience With Bad Staff by udemzyudex(m): 8:25am On Apr 01, 2022
HUSTLER001:
The funny thing here is that you can't say same If we meet face to face.You wouldn't be ready for the consequences. I go run into you like trailer!

You're a thief, who you be sef, you big pass Tyson fury?
Re: Business Owners, Whats Your Experience With Bad Staff by TheManofTomorrow(m): 2:21pm On Apr 01, 2022
onilanre:


Oga, it's not all Yoruba guys that behave like that.

I was the first set of people that introduced Vehicle tracker to Abuja market back in 2012. Though the business was my side hustle, so I was transferred to cross river state.

Then I employed a guy from Enugu state and I taught him how to install the trackers. The guy sold all my trackers, kept the money for the installation to himself and lied to me that other engineers bought the tracker and install it themselves.

He went further to import trackers behind me using my company. In short, he recked my business and travelled out.

Why are you like this?

Why the hasty assumptions?
Have you have business dealings with all Yoruba guys?

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