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Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by jimtemi1: 12:15pm On Apr 04, 2022
foryourmindlol:
It s better they fought it and found the head. No lasting peace without war.

Putin and Russia have been dymystified
GOD will grace ur path.enemies won't have control of ur life
Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by Invitationn: 12:16pm On Apr 04, 2022
Born2Breed:


It's changes nothing. US was dymystified in Vetnam and Somalia but they are still one of the super powers.

The war was avoidable though.

The US was also demystified in Afghanistan and Syria.
It's been 11years since they started their usual regime change agenda in Syria disguised as a civil war, yet Bashar Al Asad still rules. All thanks to Russia and Iran.
Matter of fact, Al Asad traveled to the UAE recently and he's still breathing as I type.

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Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by VULCAN(m): 12:17pm On Apr 04, 2022
Please provide evidence of your post as it sounds made up!


ivolt:
These were Putin's "peaceful" demands for Ukraine or he invades.

1. Ukrainian armed forces must be disbanded.
2. All government officials should resign and handover to pro-Russia group because
they are all "Nazis".
3. Make Russian language the sole official language.
4. Cede the entire eastern Ukraine to Russia.

If Zelensky was wise, he would have accepted all the demands without complaining
and thank Putin for his generous "peace" offers. After all, slavery is better than war!
Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by Nobody: 12:17pm On Apr 04, 2022
cule7:
German Chancellor had reportedly attempted to convince the Ukrainian leader to drop NATO membership plan

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https://www.rt.com/news/553213-zelensky-scholz-ukraine-peace/
A percent of comedians are idiots, Zelenskyy falls within that divide.
Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by jimtemi1: 12:18pm On Apr 04, 2022
NOETHNICITY:
Where did you read this? This ur own don pass CNN and BBC combined
that guy na coward,saying slavery is better than war

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Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by Invitationn: 12:24pm On Apr 04, 2022
advanceDNA:


U sit here in Nigeria making the invasion look like it’s not a big deal ....I don’t watch CNN and I don’t give a fvck about the US...I’m just looking at it from the Ukrainian angle being destroyed.

How many leader of a democratic nation will you tell to roll over to your demands and he will just say okay ooo...For the sake of peace. I’ll do it.... ??

any small thing U people will start shouting CNN....so as long as I don’t support Putin’s action of bombing another nation, I must be watching CNN and be supporting US... does that sound like sense to you??

sometimes the way you people reason is just annoying and irritating
I like your honesty. You're seeing things from the Ukrainian angle ONLY.
I think it's high time you gave the Russian angle a chance too, maybe, you can see things more clearly.

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Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by 11doubledee: 12:27pm On Apr 04, 2022
Faiththatworks:
I'm starting to get really irritated by the Russian terrorists on Nairaland,these Russian terrorists need psychological evaluation.
Putin is a mad man,very delusional and a crazy despot that needs to visit a psychiatrist as early as tomorrow morning.
I have tried to balance my information on this mad war Russia started in Ukraine,but the more I try to be rational,the more I see why Putin is nothing but a mad man.
I don't understand why mad man Putin will not allow Ukrainians determine their own destiny,why should Russia,another foreign country believe it has the power to determine the political direction of another sovereign country.
Why not allow hold a referendum in Ukraine,that will be conducted by a neutral body like the United Nations to known if the citizens of Ukraine want to join NATO or the European Union.
That was the most sensical thing to do before Mad Man Putin rolled in the tanks.
I'm very happy the whole world has finally demystified Mad Man Putin,he's nothing but a delusional,mad,crazy,psyocotic kleptomaniac that will be killed in Russia by his own generals.
And for his mad cretins on Nairaland,the Almighty God will allow you experience what the citizens of Ukraine are suffering in the hands of the Russia.
The pain and the agony of the Ukrainians will be your portion for all these crazy propaganda you push out every day.
If it doesn't suit their narrative,it becomes western propaganda.
Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by Born2Breed(f): 12:29pm On Apr 04, 2022
8
tenpipsperday:




USdemystifiedd in Somalia? Did they fight or help but the Islamic fools shot down their plane and made a mockery of the pilot and they pulled out?

Today what is left of Somalia?

Tomorrow, what do you think will be left of Ukraine?

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Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by Greyworld: 12:30pm On Apr 04, 2022
advanceDNA:


U sit here in Nigeria making the invasion look like it’s not a big deal ....I don’t watch CNN and I don’t give a fvck about the US...I’m just looking at it from the Ukrainian angle being destroyed.

How many leader of a democratic nation will you tell to roll over to your demands and he will just say okay ooo...For the sake of peace. I’ll do it.... ??

any small thing U people will start shouting CNN....so as long as I don’t support Putin’s action of bombing another nation, I must be watching CNN and be supporting US... does that sound like sense to you??

sometimes the way you people reason is just annoying and irritating

You have sense bro. When they were told to submit land for RUGA I dont think any region accepted that. Rather Amotekun and Ebube Agu was created since the police and military is compromised.

Some people will just wish others do things they can't even tolerate themselves.
Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by Krismas(m): 12:30pm On Apr 04, 2022
foryourmindlol:
It s better they fought it and found the head. No lasting peace without war.

Putin and Russia have been dymystified
grin Meanwhile

The main thing is from the briefing of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.

The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation destroyed the control point of the 24th separate mechanized brigade of the Ukrainian armed forces, warehouses with ammunition, weapons and military equipment.

Six UAVs were shot down in the air by Russian air defense in the areas of Nikolaev, Kherson, Kurakhovka, Industrialny and Velikaya Novoselka.

The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation confirmed the destruction of three AFU helicopters as a result of the strike on the Balovnoye airfield on April 3.

The forces of the LPR blocked Novotoshkovskoye from the east and south.

The DPR forces captured the fortified area and liberated Novobakhmutovka.

@SputnikLive

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Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by Theunbothered: 12:32pm On Apr 04, 2022
nnatobryno:
The guy is a real comedian. put the lives of millions of Ukrainian at risk because you want to prove what? I see it as a proxy war in Ukraine between the West and Russia but who is suffering it the most, innocent civilians.




If bandits attack you will you give in to their demands?
Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by Greyworld: 12:35pm On Apr 04, 2022
JosephXavier:
The worst thing any country is to do is to believe that the West wants the best for you

They always have a motive and a selfish interest in everything they do

They came to Africa preaching the Bible while kidnapping slaves and killing those against their mission

And thosehi people that are Bible and religious experts are still the ones who engage in racism but still preach love

Everything is all about what they achieve and gain for themselves

I wish Africa can be as smart as China and look inward

There is nothing good that will ever come from the West except they are gaining for themselves and protecting their dominance

Yeah, no region gives a rat asssss about any body bro. Its all business. You just pick who favors you most at the time. America fought Japan and liberated China on 1945, today America will fight China over Japan. All is politics.

While i can agree with you on the Chinese strides, I know they won't be any better ally to Africa than the West.
Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by JosephXavier: 12:39pm On Apr 04, 2022
Greyworld:


Yeah, no region gives a rat asssss about any body bro. Its all business. You just pick who favors you most at the time. America fought Japan and liberated China on 1945, today America will fight China over Japan. All is politics.

While i can agree with you on the Chinese strides, I know they won't be any better ally to Africa than the West.

Who the Bleep cares about allies?

There is nothing like world power

It's all illusion and a term created by stable countries to control feeble and weak ones

If Nigeria can make themselves to become stable perhaps, they may become indispensable in world decision making bad likely attain the term "world power"
Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by deolurexy1(m): 12:39pm On Apr 04, 2022
foryourmindlol:
It s better they fought it and found the head. No lasting peace without war.

Putin and Russia have been dymystified

What a clown �idiot
Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by Krismas(m): 12:40pm On Apr 04, 2022
advanceDNA:


U sit here in Nigeria making the invasion look like it’s not a big deal ....I don’t watch CNN and I don’t give a fvck about the US...I’m just looking at it from the Ukrainian angle being destroyed.

How many leader of a democratic nation will you tell to roll over to your demands and he will just say okay ooo...For the sake of peace. I’ll do it.... ??

any small thing U people will start shouting CNN....so as long as I don’t support Putin’s action of bombing another nation, I must be watching CNN and be supporting US... does that sound like sense to you??

sometimes the way you people reason is just annoying and irritating
grin For ur mind na, u don yarn? grin very shallow. The situation btw Ukraine and Russia is fairly more complex dan ur analysis. To begin with, both countries have been together for close to a hundred years. There are lots of Russians whos country is Ukraine grin They are both Russia and Ukraine at the same time. Especially those living in Donbas. NATO ought to have stayed away from wot is close to a family quarrel.

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Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by Oddfinder: 12:40pm On Apr 04, 2022
mfm04622:


Have you EVER seen a situation where a country voluntarily give up part of her country? That is what this "Peace offer" is. The important part of the peace offer is to let the Dombass region go. Which country will accept that?
The whole of Ukraine and including dombass or watever damed region therein was part of Russia! Nigeria gave up bakasi to Cameroon, not because Cameroon is stronger but for peace to rain..we all knew bakasi belonged to Nigeria but we had to let go for peace

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Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by DerrickzB: 12:44pm On Apr 04, 2022
foryourmindlol:
It s better they fought it and found the head. No lasting peace without war.

Putin and Russia have been dymystified

Demystified?? Russia has crippled Ukraine’s military!! The western media aren’t even giving out the truthful news!! Why is EU sending arms day by day then??

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Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by omohayek: 12:45pm On Apr 04, 2022
cule7:
German Chancellor had reportedly attempted to convince the Ukrainian leader to drop NATO membership plan
https://www.rt.com/news/553213-zelensky-scholz-ukraine-peace/
If the WSJ is supposed to have carried this story, why not link to the WSJ article directly? Why link instead to a piece of agitprop spin from Russia Today, funded directly by the Kremlin?

What's even more shameful than the gullibility of all the hateful idiots who will swallow this garbage uncritically, is that Nairaland's moderators should have chosen to indulge this rubbish at the very time when the Russian massacres at Bucha are coming to light and drawing international outrage. Given the frequency with which this website puts Russian lies on the front page, it's almost as if some of the moderators are on the Russian payroll, trying their hardest to blame a genocidal, unprovoked war of Russian imperial aggression on the Ukrainians who are its victims. I'd say you should be ashamed of yourselves, but by now it's abundantly clear that most Nigerians are totally lacking in shame, empathy or anything resembling a moral code, all the loud performative public religiosity notwithstanding.

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Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by Mrsegz: 12:45pm On Apr 04, 2022
Demystified in Afghan too, Taliban are back in power.
The Ukrainian President was naive, allowed himself to be used as a dispensible pawn in wider realpolitik chess game. Sadly the Country and it's people are being destroyed due his lack of Judgement. If Kiev doesn't fall, the longer the war. The longer the war, the more destruction the country sees.


Born2Breed:


It's changes nothing. US was dymystified in Vetnam and Somalia but they are still one of the super powers.

The war was avoidable though.

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Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by slickbak(m): 12:52pm On Apr 04, 2022
nnatobryno:
The guy is a real comedian. put the lives of millions of Ukrainian at risk because you want to prove what? I see it as a proxy war in Ukraine between the West and Russia but who is suffering it the most, innocent civilians.



Well said Bro. I consider Ukrainians unlucky to have Zelensky as their president cos he has failed to secure their lives and property. Putin realized Zelensky is a Western stooge too late cos I’m sure he would have hijacked the elections that brought him to power.

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Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by advanceDNA: 12:53pm On Apr 04, 2022
Krismas:
grin For ur mind na, u don yarn? grin very shallow. The situation btw Ukraine and Russia is fairly more complex dan ur analysis. To begin with, both countries have been together for close to a hundred years. There are lots of Russians whos country is Ukraine grin They are both Russia and Ukraine at the same time. Especially those living in Donbas. NATO ought to have stayed away from wot is close to a family quarrel.

For your mind you think say you get sense??
One single brain no dey your head...
Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by Gospel2Day: 12:55pm On Apr 04, 2022
Difrent:


How?
Russian Objective in Ukraine has been 80% sucessful and its only a matter of time that the remaining 20% which is taking kiev is achieved. In case you missed it....Russian reason for the invasion are 1 to demilitarize ukraine and denazify Ukraine. Zelensky admits almost all of Ukraines millitary equipments have been destroyed. So while the west keep beaming photos of bombed cities and humanitarian crisis to appeal to sentiments.....Russia is busy destroying military bases.... airports.....arms depots...and almost all of Ukrines military equipments.

Its the US and EU that has been demystified. When Putin invaded Georgia....he was testing the water....then realising that US AND EUreally cant do anything he moved to crimea and realising that the west wont do anything made the ukraine move. EU dont want to anger Russia because they depend on it for gas.....while US is too busy making sure China doesnt overtake it as world biggest economy.....Ukraine is on his own, that comedian just got to know the real difference between comedy and reality

Putin has just motivated and mobilized Ukraine to fully militarize in preparation for any future Russian aggression.
Putin will regret this invasion.
In decade's to come you will realize Ukraine will develop deterrence to any bullying by secretly starting a nuclear armament program deep down underground.
This war will be fought again in the future.
Ukraine will work on their missiles defense systems too. And purchase long range missiles that will reach Moscow and St Petersburg.
Putin has shown Ukraine that Russia cannot be trusted not to attack again.
Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by advanceDNA: 12:56pm On Apr 04, 2022
Invitationn:

I like your honesty. You're seeing things from the Ukrainian angle ONLY.
I think it's high time you gave the Russian angle a chance too, maybe, you can see things more clearly.

I have looked it from Russia’s angle...and I don’t think it’s fair for Russia to want to impose its view on another sovereign nation....

Let me ask you...if Ukraine were Nigeria...what will your opinion be...truthfully.??
Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by fredoooooo: 12:57pm On Apr 04, 2022
He think US and EU will fly in to defend.. Dem don disappoint him
Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by gamechanger547: 12:58pm On Apr 04, 2022
This Ukraine Vrs Russia war ain't going to end soon if compromise is not made.

MOSCOW, April 4. /TASS/. The strategic aviation of Russia’s Aerospace Forces has struck 14 Ukrainian military targets overnight, including two command centers and two Buk-M1 surface-to-air missile (SAM) systems, Russian Defense Ministry Spokesman Igor Konashenkov told journalists on Monday.
"During the night, the strategic aviation of Russia’s Aerospace Forces has struck 14 Ukrainian military targets. They include two command centers, two launch platforms of Buk-M1 surface-to-air missile systems in the vicinity of Krasnogorka and Verkhnetoretskoye, one artillery cluster, two depots of missile and artillery armaments and munitions and three fuel depots, as well as six defended posts and areas of concentration of the combat equipment of the Ukrainian armed forces," he said.
According to him, Russian air defense systems also shot down six Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) "in the vicinity of the populated localities of Nikolaev, Kherson, Kurakhovka, Industrialnoye, Velikaya Novoselka."

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Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by edosignature(m): 12:59pm On Apr 04, 2022
We want peace not war.

Russians are wise & calculative. Almost 80% of Russia plans in Ukraine has been achieved. The west are busy vilifying Vladimir Putin while he's busy hitting Ukrainians main installations & critical infrastructures.

Ukrainians have lost more men, tanks, military harwares & foreigner's fighters but the western media will only show you captured Russian soldiers &the injured.

Long live Vladimir Putin, Long live Russia.

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Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by Greyworld: 1:01pm On Apr 04, 2022
JosephXavier:


Who the Bleep cares about allies?

There is nothing like world power

It's all illusion and a term created by stable countries to control feeble and weak ones

If Nigeria can make themselves to become stable perhaps, they may become indispensable in world decision making bad likely attain the term "world power"

How you do define stable in this context. How do you explain indispensable?? If a country can attain this and can influence world decisions to a certain level... In my opinion that is world power and as long as humanity exists there would be a more powerful nation than most others.

I'm not just comfortable with the opinion of most ( not you in particular) that the West is evil and the East is better. And to be successful every nation needs allies. Dependable Allies.
Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by edosignature(m): 1:02pm On Apr 04, 2022
The western media will never show all these because they are cowards & forever they'll be.


gamechanger547:
This Ukraine Vrs Russia war ain't going to end soon if compromise is not made.

MOSCOW, April 4. /TASS/. The strategic aviation of Russia’s Aerospace Forces has struck 14 Ukrainian military targets overnight, including two command centers and two Buk-M1 surface-to-air missile (SAM) systems, Russian Defense Ministry Spokesman Igor Konashenkov told journalists on Monday.
"During the night, the strategic aviation of Russia’s Aerospace Forces has struck 14 Ukrainian military targets. They include two command centers, two launch platforms of Buk-M1 surface-to-air missile systems in the vicinity of Krasnogorka and Verkhnetoretskoye, one artillery cluster, two depots of missile and artillery armaments and munitions and three fuel depots, as well as six defended posts and areas of concentration of the combat equipment of the Ukrainian armed forces," he said.
According to him, Russian air defense systems also shot down six Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) "in the vicinity of the populated localities of Nikolaev, Kherson, Kurakhovka, Industrialnoye, Velikaya Novoselka."
Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by Princedapace(m): 1:05pm On Apr 04, 2022
foryourmindlol:
It s better they fought it and found the head. No lasting peace without war.

Putin and Russia have been dymystified
Unfortunately, the war in in Ukrainian lands and cities.... citizens paying with their lives.

Russia still controls the entire east region with terrible destructions in that region and other cities, Ukrainians are now refugees. Who lost?
Ukrain. Never allow anyone fight war in ur home land.

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Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by Greyworld: 1:06pm On Apr 04, 2022
Gospel2Day:


Putin has just motivated and mobilized Ukraine to fully militarize in preparation for any future Russian aggression.
Putin will regret this invasion.
In decade's to come you will realize Ukraine will develop deterrence to any bullying by secretly starting a nuclear armament program deep down underground.
This war will be fought again in the future.
Ukraine will work on their missiles defense systems too. And purchase long range missiles that will reach Moscow and St Petersburg.
Putin has shown Ukraine that Russia cannot be trusted not to attack again.

Now someone is thinking right. Russia has proved itself an enemy with Ukraine. It's only logical for the Ukrainians to work against them henceforth without remorse.

G

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Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by Oddfinder: 1:08pm On Apr 04, 2022
advanceDNA:


I have looked it from Russia’s angle...and I don’t think it’s fair for Russia to want to impose its view on another sovereign nation....

Let me ask you...if Ukraine were Nigeria...what will your opinion be...truthfully.??
U guys keep making this error. Ukraine is not a sovereign country! That's the truth. A sovereign country will not sign a document that prevents her from having a powerful and strong army. A sovereign country will not sign a document that prevents her from joining NATO.
Ukraine signed all these agreement in return for Russian protection.
Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by pafo(m): 1:13pm On Apr 04, 2022
ivolt:
These were Putin's "peaceful" demands for Ukraine or he invades.

1. Ukrainian armed forces must be disbanded.
2. All government officials should resign and handover to pro-Russia group because
they are all "Nazis".
3. Make Russian language the sole official language.
4. Cede the entire eastern Ukraine to Russia.

If Zelensky was wise, he would have accepted all the demands without complaining
and thank Putin for his generous "peace" offers. After all, slavery is better than war!

Dem suppose arrange slap for yiu for the nonsense You posted up there. Even God sef cannot ask anyone to do these things.

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