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Re: UK To Send 120 Armoured Vehicles To Ukraine As Boris Johnson Meets Zelensky by VirileNelly2420: 12:32pm On Apr 10, 2022
Omonda:
If Putin has male child, he will have stop all these his madness.
Nd wots it about a male child?
Re: UK To Send 120 Armoured Vehicles To Ukraine As Boris Johnson Meets Zelensky by Adjovi: 12:32pm On Apr 10, 2022
BERNIMOORE:
why are you taking panadol for Putin's headache? Under his watch Russia is gradually running out of weapons while Ukraine is gaining more...What you don't know is that the Russian military commandants all have their powers to refuse orders from Putin to activate shooting nuclear bomb, you will be surprised that they will all turn against him. Putin was ashamed that Boris Johnson fly directly to Kiev and walk freely on the street of Kiev....we watch how Russia abandoned their tanks and losing grounds to Ukraine.. The bad news is that lately those long range missiles are missing targets because more air controls apparatus are donated and distracting the Russian missiles... Systematically Putin is humbled.. Worried why his operation is taking longer



All I'm saying is when Russia starts I know wan dey hear war crimes up and down .
Re: UK To Send 120 Armoured Vehicles To Ukraine As Boris Johnson Meets Zelensky by VirileNelly2420: 12:35pm On Apr 10, 2022
sunkoye:
for a 2nd most rated military might....this outing is not it at all. Putin and Moscow has been humbled. Fine...you are not a super power but for a great power status you fall hand. But your nairaland e rat knows you more than you sha ooo grin cheesy. They and their god eat from same table everyday cheesy cheesy

Russia doesn't want to destroy kyiv... Am sure dey're yet to fire missiles there. If not, kyiv would've been like mariopul or Bucha...
Re: UK To Send 120 Armoured Vehicles To Ukraine As Boris Johnson Meets Zelensky by Themandator: 12:35pm On Apr 10, 2022
CoronaVirusPro:
Way to go!

God bless The United Kingdom

Let me see how many fronts Russia will fight at same time. With a crashing economy and still having to fund a war.

By the time Putin is done with this war, Russians will be seeking asylum in Nigeria.

Am empty overhyped nation bragging military might with old outdated Soviet Union scraps, with foot poorly kitted hunters called soldiers.

Stationed along Ukrainian boarders for months like all was already planned and mapped out, only to go put up the worst Military invasion in history.

Why the saying that “empty barrels make the loudest noise”, happens to be always true.

Even if Ukraine is conquered today, Russias weakness has been exposed to the universe.

Take away nuclear warhead from them and UGM/ESN will decimate Russias military. Very wack mikitary!

CIA sent a cable back home when they confronted the same Russia in Afghanistan that this people we meet here doesn't look anything like what we had expected that this guys here are more fitted to be called third world army than that of a super power but Langley and Pentagon didn't believe the report


Russia stayed in that country for ten years and lost 15,000 men

This war has helped Europe and the West to calibrate their estimation of Russia
Re: UK To Send 120 Armoured Vehicles To Ukraine As Boris Johnson Meets Zelensky by adedehinbo(m): 12:36pm On Apr 10, 2022
Nitah1:
Them no go fit...e de always do them like Nollywood....the next thing them see the newly acquired weapons at the front line. grin
may you the one who is not aware,the attack on poland boarder is an attack on the arms ukriane had been receiving,the latest attack was on military vehicles ukraine just received which the russian send missiles to destroy
Re: UK To Send 120 Armoured Vehicles To Ukraine As Boris Johnson Meets Zelensky by Themandator: 12:39pm On Apr 10, 2022
God1000:
I salute his bravery of going to war torn Ukraine.
The secret service won't allow US president to go that far.


President Zelensky later took Boris Johnson on a walk on the street of Kyiv


Coffee shops do open in the capital to serve the people... Air defense system is in place in the capital
Re: UK To Send 120 Armoured Vehicles To Ukraine As Boris Johnson Meets Zelensky by Str8talk21: 12:39pm On Apr 10, 2022
God1000:
Russia is monitoring Ukraine's airspace 24/7.

Sending anti tanks and anti aircraft weapons is better than warplanes.


Anti tanks and anti aircraft weapons have caused Russia extensive damage in this war, operating warplanes in a heavily congested airspace will be counterproductive


More photos
And u think these equipment are game changers in d re-organized Russian Operation in Ukraine?
They will keep sending, while Russia is monitoring the consignment in d sky and destroying them with a click of the button.
Re: UK To Send 120 Armoured Vehicles To Ukraine As Boris Johnson Meets Zelensky by VirileNelly2420: 12:44pm On Apr 10, 2022
obedience4:
Good job Boris, no need for NATO boots..
Just get the Right weapons to Ukraine and they will get the job done...
Still waiting for those Putin communist nairaland fools that said Kiev will be conquered in two weeks..
Glory to Ukraine
...and u think if Russia chooses to bomb kyiv dey could withstand?

Kyiv is d last place to level when every resolution fails...
Just like other ruined cities
Re: UK To Send 120 Armoured Vehicles To Ukraine As Boris Johnson Meets Zelensky by bakar007: 1:38pm On Apr 10, 2022
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Re: UK To Send 120 Armoured Vehicles To Ukraine As Boris Johnson Meets Zelensky by bakar007: 1:40pm On Apr 10, 2022
TenQ:

True until the Russian puppet president of Ukraine was removed by Ukrainians in 2014


Learn your history well.
1. Russia occupied Cremia in 2014 after their puppet president was removed
2. The terms of negotiation of Russia with Ukraine contains the clause that Cremia will be officially ceded to Russia


You probably don't know that Ukraine has a large deposit of petroleum gas in East Ukraine. This has the potential of cutting off Russia as main exporter of gas to Europe. Hence


Russia has the goal of toppling the Ukrainian government and installing a puppet president so that they can take over
1. The petroleum gas field in eastern Ukraine
2. The iron ore and industry in East Ukraine
3. The port at Odessa
4. Cremia




And instead of Russia facing NATO, USA or Europe, she decided to fight the small Ukraine like a coward!

Russia is attacking Ukraine because of Ukrainians DESIRE to join EU and NATO not because they have joined. Now, round 1 of war, Russia lost. Even if they win round 2 it's still a win for Ukraine


A Clown just beat a veteran Warlord, a nuclear power and Experienced Politician in round one.

The arrogance of the Russian President telling Ukrainians "STOP FIGHTING.." is displayed. The Russian bear is actually a TEDDY BEAR!

Shame on those who can't recognise that both USA and Russia are selfish and evil with respect to smaller nations and thus take sides like a blind Bat!

Clearly Crimea voted out of Ukraine in 2014 .
If you know you history well you understand that Crimea has a special regional status in Ukraine , they voted to join Ukraine from Russian then when Ukraine was parting ways with the then sovereign union ,it wasn't done by war , so why try to force them to be part of the Union if they don't want to?

Russia already had the north stream two to supply Europe, Ukraine even desperate to keep those lines running cause of the income they make from Russia gas so what does Russia need that route for??

Port of Odessa and marupol yes , port of Odesa mainly to cut Ukraine from the blacksea , military and economic pressure points of view and marupol to link Crimea by road . All these could have be prevented with Ukraine been neutral.

Why not NATO fighting Russia they prefer to use Ukraine as a battlefield for proxy war with Russia. NATO instigated this war and gave hope to the Ukranian clown that they will fight for him , unfortunately the Ukrainian President choose this Path of his country. Big boys never confronts themselves differently they use these smaller nations to fight their proxy wars . Not the first and won't be the last ,so it up to these countries to either be neutral or allow your country to be used as the battlefield for a proxy war. The next proxy war likely to be tiawan cause US wants to push China to react to start one over there it seems, it either the leaders there learn to maintain the status quo or let themselves be used for that proxy war.

Ukraine the smaller country had the choice to the neutral yet picked a side in a conflict that wasn't for their interest. It not just a desire to join, it in their constitution that they will join NATO ,is that just a desire according to you
There was no need of UKRAINE joining NATO yet they made the decision knowing the consequences of such actions ,
Who are you to choose which life matters , when the western puppets decided on killing their fellow Ukranians over ethnicity I didn't hear the western world crying nor people like you speaking out about the killings and shelling that has been ongoing for over 8years in the Donbass killings thousands over the ethnicity by the Ukranians Gov ,so they're facing the consequences.

Russian already won.
The control the Donbass region( now two independent countries)
The will have marupol in few weeks to link Crimea.
Ukraine will never be part of NATO and will be a neutral state ( Russia never opposed Ukraine joining EU it EU rejecting them for 8years now )
That was their Goal going there and they achieved it and with some add on.
Many people fail to learn from history , study the Georgia situation , same this happen there , Georgia can never be part of NATO and there two separate region with their own gov there that's what happened here already.

The Ukranians clown brought this upon his people over his ego and nothing else , his people dead and he lost the so called NATO ambition ,still begging the west for EU membership, lost the Donbass region ,no Minsk agreement now , and much more , there nothing Ukraine can compensate themselves with at this state , all this could have been prevented.
Re: UK To Send 120 Armoured Vehicles To Ukraine As Boris Johnson Meets Zelensky by Oyiboman69: 1:57pm On Apr 10, 2022
Heathrow44:




is like u don't value your life and freedom, Sending fighter jets to Ukraine would be seen in all sense as a declaration of war to Russia that would start the massive war games that's a preclude to WW3 and for ur info nigeria isn't isn't going to be left out, if u think nigeria is going to be neutral in ww3 u re stupid, is either Europe goes back to slave trade and invade African countries,enlist men to go fight as mercenaries or the bomb u all to death, simple!

Re: UK To Send 120 Armoured Vehicles To Ukraine As Boris Johnson Meets Zelensky by Clemostica: 2:00pm On Apr 10, 2022
How could you say that "war in Ukraine must be stopped"..? When in fact NATO member nation sending war machines over there to fight with the Russian army??. How could it be done?
Re: UK To Send 120 Armoured Vehicles To Ukraine As Boris Johnson Meets Zelensky by House34: 2:14pm On Apr 10, 2022
Adjovi:




All I'm saying is when Russia starts I know wan dey hear war crimes up and down .

Very good point,..i prefer dey negotiate for peace but most eu politician like pm johnson have hidden agenda and choose to keep pumping weapon into ukraine and in the coming days ukraine will face heavy bloodbath ..more weapon is not the solution.i hope peace regime
Re: UK To Send 120 Armoured Vehicles To Ukraine As Boris Johnson Meets Zelensky by judedwriter(m): 2:41pm On Apr 10, 2022
CoronaVirusPro:
Way to go!

God bless The United Kingdom

Let me see how many fronts Russia will fight at same time. With a crashing economy and still having to fund a war.

By the time Putin is done with this war, Russians will be seeking asylum in Nigeria.

Am empty overhyped nation bragging military might with old outdated Soviet Union scraps, with foot poorly kitted hunters called soldiers.

Stationed along Ukrainian boarders for months like all was already planned and mapped out, only to go put up the worst Military invasion in history.

Why the saying that “empty barrels make the loudest noise”, happens to be always true.

Even if Ukraine is conquered today, Russias weakness has been exposed to the universe.

Take away nuclear warhead from them and UGM/ESN will decimate Russias military. Very wack mikitary!

Against all odds, Russia may likely overpower Ukraine. What I fear the most that this conflict is slowly becoming a world War.
Re: UK To Send 120 Armoured Vehicles To Ukraine As Boris Johnson Meets Zelensky by tommynico(m): 2:56pm On Apr 10, 2022
newdawn2017:
d wests re many countries together. So why ve those many countries ( west ) not invaded mighty mother Russia? If they think she is a lad?

The have no business invading Russia. As much as Russia disapproves of Nato being too close to her borders, there's little Putin can do because Russia has no attraction except for brute force, not even protection. But the west/Nato/EU has a lot to offer Ukrain and the surrounding countries which is the attraction drawing them to these groups. Besides, these nations have been ruled true centuries by Moscow and they know what it feels like to be under Moscow's boots, so they do not want to experience such again and neither do they want to remain poor.
Re: UK To Send 120 Armoured Vehicles To Ukraine As Boris Johnson Meets Zelensky by tommynico(m): 3:01pm On Apr 10, 2022
To the MOD who barred me, and the person who reported me because of my opinions, all I have to say to you is that it hasn't changed my opinion, and you can bar me for all I care, but that does not mean I will change my thought on issues or discussions as they come up. I haven't insulted anyone, and neither have I cursed any, but if you feel my opinion is an insult to you, I care less.
Re: UK To Send 120 Armoured Vehicles To Ukraine As Boris Johnson Meets Zelensky by tommynico(m): 3:06pm On Apr 10, 2022
[quote author=judedwriter post=111817809]

Against all odds, Russia may likely overpower Ukraine. What I fear the most that this conflict is slowly becoming a world War. [/quote
Bro/sis, what I am seeing in this war is that, Putin/Russia is desperate for a victory, while the Ukrainians have vowed to break his will and plans. It is a warning to all authoritarian leaders and nations haboring the same thoughts against their neighbors that all will not be well if you go ahead with such actions and there are steep prices to pay. Even the west have a lesson to learn from this war. Because you are powerful, or assumed to be powerful does not give you the right to invade your neighbors' sovereignthy. You have the right to defend your space, but not invade another's if your borders are not crossed.
Re: UK To Send 120 Armoured Vehicles To Ukraine As Boris Johnson Meets Zelensky by Excuzeme: 3:08pm On Apr 10, 2022
Mooh247:
cool



He asked for fighter jets, they gave him Amoured vehicles

Well... Nothing is too small as gift

Let's see how many people Armoured vehicles can protect from Putin's heavy shelling and missile bombardment


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This war is all A GAME, as far as NATO/EU are concerned! grin grin grin
They are using Ukraine as A PAWN, to play CHESS in World Geo-Politics and it is very sad that the Comedian Zelensky thinks it is more important to speak and receive CLAPS in many Parliaments, while his Country is destroyed and his Citizens killed for nothing!

History will not be kind to him, when the time comes.

UK used to be a World Power (British Empire) in the past but it is now a shadow of itself.

Led by an erratic Leader like Boris Johnson, it is STRUGGLING TO REMAIN RELEVANT in World Politics and it thinks FUELLING this War with Russia is a great opportunity to do so.
Even "tiny" Latvia is flexing Muscle with Russia, while "hiding" under NATO Flag! grin grin

America is propping-up its Military Industrial Complex (Go and examine the Shares of American Weapons Manufacturing Companies like Ratheon, Lockheed Martin, etc and see the astronomical rise in their Value, between March and April), selling Weapons, making Money from it, while Ukraine is being reduced to "Rouble"!

Europeans who are doing "follow-follow" with America, are just recovering from the Covid Pandemc Economic Crisis, they are now plunging themselves into a Recession, just because they are afraid of Russia and want its military Power destroyed, using Ukraine as THE PAWN.

I have stopped pitying Ukraine/Zelensky, since he did not ask the World Powers to "NEGOTIATE" how the War can end with Russia but is rather asking for Weapons and more Weapons, meanwhile what Ukraine is being given, are Weapons that will not overcome Russia, in the next One year, but Ukrainians are dying and Ukraine is being destroyed!

If there is a definition and Award for FOOLISHNESS and IDIOTIC EGO, Zelensky will get it, even if he contests it with a mentally-challenged 3yr Old.

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Re: UK To Send 120 Armoured Vehicles To Ukraine As Boris Johnson Meets Zelensky by Mooh247: 3:13pm On Apr 10, 2022
Excuzeme:


This war is all A GAME, as far as NATO/EU are concerned! grin grin grin
They are using Ukraine as A PAWN, to play CHESS in World Geo-Politics and it is very sad that the Comedian Zelensky thinks it is more important to speak and receive CLAPS in many Parliaments, while his Country is destroyed and his Citizens killed for nothing! like

History will not be kind to him, when the time comes.

UK used to be a World Power (British Empire) in the past but it is now a shadow of itself.

Led by an erratic Leader like Boris Johnson, it is STRUGGLING TO REMAIN RELEVANT in World Politics and it thinks FUELLING this War with Russia is a great opportunity to do so.
Even "tiny" Latvia is flexing Muscle with Russia, while "hiding" under NATO Flag! grin grin

America is propping-up its Military Industrial Complex (Go and examine the Shares of American Weapons Manufacturing Companies like Ratheon, Lockheed Martin, etc and see the astronomical rise in their Value, between March and April), selling Weapons, making Money from it, while Ukraine is being reduced to "Rouble"!

Europeans who are doing "follow-follow" with America, are just recovering from the Covid Pandemc Economic Crisis, they are now plunging themselves into a Recession, just because they are afraid of Russia and want its military Power destroyed, using Ukraine as THE PAWN.

I have stopped pitying Ukraine/Zelensky, since he did not ask the World Powers to "NEGOTIATE" how the War can end with Russia but is rather asking for Weapons and more Weapons, meanwhile what Ukraine is being given, are Weapons that will not overcome Russia, in the next One year, but Ukrainians are dying and Ukraine is being destroyed!

If there is a definition and Award for FOOLISHNESS and IDIOTIC EGO, Zelensky will get it, even if he contests it with a mentally-challenged 3yr Old.

Don't blame Zelensky, a report has it that his money and loots are safe in Florida US under the watch of US government... So they have him by the balls, he either obey them or they bend him


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Re: UK To Send 120 Armoured Vehicles To Ukraine As Boris Johnson Meets Zelensky by tommynico(m): 3:21pm On Apr 10, 2022
bakar007:


Clearly Crimea voted out of Ukraine in 2014 .
If you know you history well you understand that Crimea has a special regional status in Ukraine , they voted to join Ukraine from Russian then when Ukraine was parting ways with the then sovereign union ,it wasn't done by war , so why try to force them to be part of the Union if they don't want to?

Russia already had the north stream two to supply Europe, Ukraine even desperate to keep those lines running cause of the income they make from Russia gas so what does Russia need that route for??

Port of Odessa and marupol yes , port of Odesa mainly to cut Ukraine from the blacksea , military and economic pressure points of view and marupol to link Crimea by road . All these could have be prevented with Ukraine been neutral.

Why not NATO fighting Russia they prefer to use Ukraine as a battlefield for proxy war with Russia. NATO instigated this war and gave hope to the Ukranian clown that they will fight for him , unfortunately the Ukrainian President choose this Path of his country. Big boys never confronts themselves differently they use these smaller nations to fight their proxy wars . Not the first and won't be the last ,so it up to these countries to either be neutral or allow your country to be used as the battlefield for a proxy war. The next proxy war likely to be tiawan cause US wants to push China to react to start one over there it seems, it either the leaders there learn to maintain the status quo or let themselves be used for that proxy war.

Ukraine the smaller country had the choice to the neutral yet picked a side in a conflict that wasn't for their interest. It not just a desire to join, it in their constitution that they will join NATO ,is that just a desire according to you
There was no need of UKRAINE joining NATO yet they made the decision knowing the consequences of such actions ,
Who are you to choose which life matters , when the western puppets decided on killing their fellow Ukranians over ethnicity I didn't hear the western world crying nor people like you speaking out about the killings and shelling that has been ongoing for over 8years in the Donbass killings thousands over the ethnicity by the Ukranians Gov ,so they're facing the consequences.

Russian already won.
The control the Donbass region( now two independent countries)
The will have marupol in few weeks to link Crimea.
Ukraine will never be part of NATO and will be a neutral state ( Russia never opposed Ukraine joining EU it EU rejecting them for 8years now )
That was their Goal going there and they achieved it and with some add on.
Many people fail to learn from history , study the Georgia situation , same this happen there , Georgia can never be part of NATO and there two separate region with their own gov there that's what happened here already.

The Ukranians clown brought this upon his people over his ego and nothing else , his people dead and he lost the so called NATO ambition ,still begging the west for EU membership, lost the Donbass region ,no Minsk agreement now , and much more , there nothing Ukraine can compensate themselves with at this state , all this could have been prevented.

To correct some facts here.

Russia seized Crimea as a fallout when their ally was ousted by a popular revolt in 2014. But this was preceded by an action, when the president unilaterally withdrew from an agreement with the EU because of pressure from Russia, and in turn signed to take a loan from Russia. This did not Go well with the people of Ukrain who have always wanted to be a part of EU because of the benefits attached.

If Putin in his right mind had allowed Ukrain to join EU, he could have negotiated with the helms men to avoid joining NATO which would serve as a win for both sides, but instead, he instigated some revolt from the Eastern front to distabilise Ukrain and make it difficult for them to define their national wealth path.

Secondly, as a consequence of Putin's initial moves and with a strong desire to be free from Moscow's yoke, they decided that joining NATo would offer them not only economical benefits, but also security.

To be honest with you, Russia has nothing to offer Ukraine. Look at the west, though they fight and argue, and disagree amongst themselves all the time, but they always close rank when there's a problem. Russia's desire is actually not because of the Donbas region, but this attack is just a first step to them achieving their sole aim of re-establishing the Soviet empire that stretches from east to Lisbon as revealed by one of Russia's to politician.

This is not to say the west is actually a good party here, but on this one, they are actually standing behind the victim of a greedy man's ambition.
Re: UK To Send 120 Armoured Vehicles To Ukraine As Boris Johnson Meets Zelensky by Excuzeme: 3:23pm On Apr 10, 2022
House34:


Very good point,..i prefer dey negotiate for peace but most eu politician like pm johnson have hidden agenda and choose to keep pumping weapon into ukraine and in the coming days ukraine will face heavy bloodbath ..more weapon is not the solution.i hope peace regime


"Everyone" has their own OBJECTIVE, in this Russia/Ukraine War!

Nobody gives a damn about Ukrainian Citizens or Ukraine itself, as long as each entity, from America, to EU., to Putin, to Zelensky, to UK, to Weapon manufacturers, to NGO's, to Politicians like France;s Macron .......... as long as each entity gets what it wants.

It is sheer foolishness, to think that Russia is "weak", just because it has decided from the start, that its objective is not to destroy Ukraine completely, but to "neutralise" its ambition to build a Nuclear Weapon, prevent it from joining N ATO, prevent Ukraine from continuing to OPPRESS the people in the Dombas Region and to destroy all those NEO-Nazis on Ukrainian territory`
Russia does not need "full-force" to achieve these Objectives but the EU/UK/NATO alliance pumping more weapons into Ukraine, is gradually changing that position for Russia.

If they say you are weak just because you are being Liberal, you may need to show them that you are not weak ... and that is Ukraine going up in Smoke!

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Re: UK To Send 120 Armoured Vehicles To Ukraine As Boris Johnson Meets Zelensky by nedekid: 3:27pm On Apr 10, 2022
I hope ressia bombs the delivery to smithereens.
Re: UK To Send 120 Armoured Vehicles To Ukraine As Boris Johnson Meets Zelensky by railone(m): 3:41pm On Apr 10, 2022
Mooh247:



Putin is getting more ruthless and angry. I see him rain in more long range missiles this week after the train station bombardment killing 39 people... Russia's missiles are mostly undectectable by radar so for now only Fighter Jets , Drones or S300, S400, Patriot missile defence system can save Ukraine

Armoured vehicles can only protect few ground troops and VIPs

It's not a video game where you just select weapon and start using it. F-16, Rafale, Typhoons are all different systems to what Ukraine understand. It'd take months of practice for Ukraine to declare those jets combat ready.
Same with the Patriot systems. it has FoF identification system, taking one from US to Ukraine will also target Ukraine jets and missiles as it would identify them as Foe not Friend.

You guys need to chill with the emotions
Re: UK To Send 120 Armoured Vehicles To Ukraine As Boris Johnson Meets Zelensky by railone(m): 3:45pm On Apr 10, 2022
Heathrow44:



go and read the NATO agreement or treaty, US and NATO can't send fighter jets to a non nato country, they are bound to protect each other during war, US and NATO would have taken caution even though Ukraine was a nato member not to talk of when they are not, US has been sending wat and wat exactly? can Russia really prove US presence or aid to Ukraine, US has only engaged Russia through economic sanctions and blockades and has refused military intervention for the sole purpose of not inviting WW3, NATO countries supplying arms to Ukraine are all in the news but they end up in.the polish border, When u close the skies over Ukraine it means a US made fighter jet would have to engage a Russian jet and that's dragging US into the war, wat US has only done is indirect arming of the Ukraine resistance and there's no known provocations as it isn't a direct attack and Russia doesn't see it as so yet, Russia mind u can also seek military assistance from its allies like China but it seems China is trying t stay neutral

why do you guys like saying US and NATO?
I mean you can't never say flour and cake right
Re: UK To Send 120 Armoured Vehicles To Ukraine As Boris Johnson Meets Zelensky by tommynico(m): 3:45pm On Apr 10, 2022
Excuzeme:


This war is all A GAME, as far as NATO/EU are concerned! grin grin grin
They are using Ukraine as A PAWN, to play CHESS in World Geo-Politics and it is very sad that the Comedian Zelensky thinks it is more important to speak and receive CLAPS in many Parliaments, while his Country is destroyed and his Citizens killed for nothing!

History will not be kind to him, when the time comes.

UK used to be a World Power (British Empire) in the past but it is now a shadow of itself.

Led by an erratic Leader like Boris Johnson, it is STRUGGLING TO REMAIN RELEVANT in World Politics and it thinks FUELLING this War with Russia is a great opportunity to do so.
Even "tiny" Latvia is flexing Muscle with Russia, while "hiding" under NATO Flag! grin grin

America is propping-up its Military Industrial Complex (Go and examine the Shares of American Weapons Manufacturing Companies like Ratheon, Lockheed Martin, etc and see the astronomical rise in their Value, between March and April), selling Weapons, making Money from it, while Ukraine is being reduced to "Rouble"!

Europeans who are doing "follow-follow" with America, are just recovering from the Covid Pandemc Economic Crisis, they are now plunging themselves into a Recession, just because they are afraid of Russia and want its military Power destroyed, using Ukraine as THE PAWN.

I have stopped pitying Ukraine/Zelensky, since he did not ask the World Powers to "NEGOTIATE" how the War can end with Russia but is rather asking for Weapons and more Weapons, meanwhile what Ukraine is being given, are Weapons that will not overcome Russia, in the next One year, but Ukrainians are dying and Ukraine is being destroyed!

If there is a definition and Award for FOOLISHNESS and IDIOTIC EGO, Zelensky will get it, even if he contests it with a mentally-challenged 3yr Old.

Ofcourse as with any warfare crisis, the defence industry always make a lot of money because of the high demand for weapons and the support systems.

In international politics, the UK, although very insignificant geographically, they weight as much as Russia, if not more than. They have an economy that ranks amongst the top 5 in the world, but where is Russia? They once had an empire that stretched from one end of the world to another, so they have depth and width when it comes to influence, but what can you point out that Russia have ever had other than the small nations that have never crossed beyond the black sea which makes up their empire. To tell you what, one of Russia's problem is her size which makes it a huge trouble to govern, this also gives them the impression that because of this fact, they are a great nation. Probably this was before they fumbled in this ongoing warfare. The great Britain no be Russia mate. From the times records started bn kept, Russia have been a backbencher in the committee of empires
Re: UK To Send 120 Armoured Vehicles To Ukraine As Boris Johnson Meets Zelensky by Nobody: 3:51pm On Apr 10, 2022
railone:


why do you guys like saying US and NATO?
I mean you can't never say flour and cake right


yes that's true, but we know US was the main signatory to the treaty, it was a US led alliance but.u re right, US AND NATO ARENT DIFFERENT BUT EVEN NEW SOURCES LIKE BBC, CNN, ALJAZERRA USE IT LIKE THAT COS US IS THE LEADER, sometimes u also hear US, UK and the EU
Re: UK To Send 120 Armoured Vehicles To Ukraine As Boris Johnson Meets Zelensky by tommynico(m): 3:59pm On Apr 10, 2022
Excuzeme:



"Everyone" has their own OBJECTIVE, in this Russia/Ukraine War!

Nobody gives a damn about Ukrainian Citizens or Ukraine itself, as long as each entity, from America, to EU., to Putin, to Zelensky, to UK, to Weapon manufacturers, to NGO's, to Politicians like France;s Macron .......... as long as each entity gets what it wants.

It is sheer foolishness, to think that Russia is "weak", just because it has decided from the start, that its objective is not to destroy Ukraine completely, but to "neutralise" its ambition to build a Nuclear Weapon, prevent it from joining N ATO, prevent Ukraine from continuing to OPPRESS the people in the Dombas Region and to destroy all those NEO-Nazis on Ukrainian territory`
Russia does not need "full-force" to achieve these Objectives but the EU/UK/NATO alliance pumping more weapons into Ukraine, is gradually changing that position for Russia.

If they say you are weak just because you are being Liberal, you may need to show them that you are not weak ... and that is Ukraine going up in Smoke!

Why are you changing goalposts. This war was started because Putin doesn't want Ukraine to be in the orbit of the western world because this will expose to the ordinary Russians on the street what their country could become if they can remove Putin from power.

And besides, Ukraine do not have an intent to procuring or making a nuclear weapon. They once had it, but they gave them all up to Russia in exchange for protection, which the same Russia have violated. They could have easily become the third most powerful nuclear country in the world because they had a huge number of them.
Re: UK To Send 120 Armoured Vehicles To Ukraine As Boris Johnson Meets Zelensky by obedience4(m): 4:03pm On Apr 10, 2022
VirileNelly2420:

...and u think if Russia chooses to bomb kyiv dey could withstand?
Kyiv is d last place to level when every resolution fails...
Just like other ruined cities

Wow, I forgot you are a retire military general..
Keep leaving in dream land..
Re: UK To Send 120 Armoured Vehicles To Ukraine As Boris Johnson Meets Zelensky by Excuzeme: 4:08pm On Apr 10, 2022
tommynico:


Ofcourse as with any warfare crisis, the defence industry always make a lot of money because of the high demand for weapons and the support systems.

In international politics, the UK, although very insignificant geographically, they weight as much as Russia, if not more than. They have an economy that ranks amongst the top 5 in the world, but where is Russia? They once had an empire that stretched from one end of the world to another, so they have depth and width when it comes to influence, but what can you point out that Russia have ever had other than the small nations that have never crossed beyond the black sea which makes up their empire. To tell you what, one of Russia's problem is her size which makes it a huge trouble to govern, this also gives them the impression that because of this fact, they are a great nation. Probably this was before they fumbled in this ongoing warfare. The great Britain no be Russia mate. From the times records started bn kept, Russia have been a backbencher in the committee of empires

You forgot that it was "ordinary Argentina", not even a Military Power, that almost finished "great" Britain, during the Faklands War!
UK is just hiding under America, to remain relevant and that is why it just does "anything" the America wants!
"Puppet" will be too-dignifying a word, to describe the UK right now.


Russia can be described as a "young" Nation that is on the rise (after the break-up of USSR) and we can see the difference between Russia and the other break-away Nations from USSR, including Ukraine.
All of them have become Vassal States of the E.U. but it is only Russia that has remained standing, progressing as a World Power and can even look the other World powers in the eye.

It is the "FEAR" of the growth and emergence of Russia that is spurring all these American-backed conflicts between Europe, Baltic States and Russia.
America cannot stand another World Power, you can see its "containment Policy" with China, as well but No Empire lasts forever, as they say.
America will come and go, just like the others, it is just a mattter of time.

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Re: UK To Send 120 Armoured Vehicles To Ukraine As Boris Johnson Meets Zelensky by railone(m): 4:14pm On Apr 10, 2022
Heathrow44:



yes that's true, but we know US was the main signatory to the treaty, it was a US led alliance but.u re right, US AND NATO ARENT DIFFERENT BUT EVEN NEW SOURCES LIKE BBC, CNN, ALJAZERRA USE IT LIKE THAT COS US IS THE LEADER, sometimes u also hear US, UK and the EU

NATO is an alliance of which US is part of so separating them is an error.
Those media publication only use "US led NATO", haven't seen US and NATO.

EU is different from NATO, US and UK aren't part of EU.
Like you can't say France and EU or Germany and EU
Re: UK To Send 120 Armoured Vehicles To Ukraine As Boris Johnson Meets Zelensky by Nobody: 4:16pm On Apr 10, 2022
railone:


NATO is an alliance of which US is part of so separating them is an error.
Those media publication only use "US led NATO", haven't seen US and NATO.

EU is different from NATO, US and UK aren't part of EU.
Like you can't say France and EU or Germany and EU


ok, US led NATO, DOES THAT MAKE U HAPPY grin

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Re: UK To Send 120 Armoured Vehicles To Ukraine As Boris Johnson Meets Zelensky by railone(m): 4:21pm On Apr 10, 2022
newdawn2017:
d wests re many countries together. So why ve those many countries ( west ) not invaded mighty mother Russia? If they think she is a lad?

because nobody ask poor old mother Russia to invade a sovereign state.

If you want to see if the west can invade Russia, the conditions are already outlined since time immemorial, all they have to do is fulfill their part and watch Russia fall like a pack of Cards

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