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Bigzigg:
If she's put on that pitch, I'd bet she'd be lost.

Oshoala's was a special case, while Ordega and Oparanozie came through when female football was still never taken seriously in Africa . Times have seriously changed.

I bet u lose ur money making that bet.

She plays in the league so I don't expect her to be lost.

Your point on Oparanozie and Ordega is just bad. Nigeria lost the AWCON twice from 2008 to 2012 so how was the continent not taking football serious

Real recognise Real. Finidi George and Flourish Sabastine

BascoVanVeli:
I bet u lose ur money making that bet.

She plays in the league so I don't expect her to be lost.

Your point on Oparanozie and Ordega is just bad. Nigeria lost the AWCON twice from 2008 to 2012 so how was the continent not taking football serious

I 'd never lose! She plays in the league... So what? A league that isn't improving..

If you've not noticed that the homebased players are no more cutting it, you have yourself to blame, to top it all, there's a very long way from the U20 to the Senior team.

Also, my point stands,. Ordega and Oparanozie could never stand serious teams in Europe and North America ditto Oshoala who was a special talent. They could shine in Africa cos Women's football standard was still poor. Today, a lot of African team are catching up, if Nigeria fails to upgrade, they'll be disgraced.

BascoVanVeli:
Real recognise Real. Finidi George and Flourish Sabastine

She's clearly talented, but the truth is, she's got a very long way to go.

JohnBullMySon:
Of course I know. That was also how you defended Eguavoen after the Ghana game.

I've watched the Super falcons for quite sometime (at least to make a reasonable judgement). We have a poor history against European (plus North American) teams. Only now am I starting to see some boldness in attack. Even with a disjointed team (heavily jet lagged) We managed to still pose danger to Canada.

In the 2019 WC we would've not even got a single goal against a poor Korea if not for Oshoala's brilliance. Maybe you'll need to compare the individuality then and now.

Coaching is a very delicate job, hence I don't like to blame coaches who have not failed their objectives. For me, besides losing to South Africa, there's been no problems. That was a friendly, but we won both Ghana and Cote D'Ivoire, two top five countries in a crucial tie.

Relax first before home based brouhaha gets the better of you.

Some people don't realize how poorly the Super falcons have performed against these top teams in the past.

Schemerkhiz:
Why is it that some players looks good at Clubside and coming to the National Team they're not there, or should I say not good enough for the National Team but good enough (key Player) for her Clubside

Age is one of them. While their clubs are only managing them well, how sure are you that they play very well at club level?

Bigzigg:
I 'd never lose! She plays in the league... So what? A league that isn't improving..

If you've not noticed that the homebased players are no more cutting it, you have yourself to blame, to top it all, there's a very long way from the U20 to the Senior team.

Also, my point stands,. Ordega and Oparanozie could never stand serious teams in Europe and North America ditto Oshoala who was a special talent. They could shine in Africa cos Women's football standard was still poor. Today, a lot of African team are catching up, if Nigeria fails to upgrade, they'll be disgraced.

Akudo Ogbonna cut it against the Canadians so ur point takes another big L. Can u name a homebase that didn't perform for waldrum Was it Gift Monday who won a match with a brace or Vivian Ikekwukwu who scored the 2 goals against South Africa?

Your point was that Africa has massively improved and I asked if they were not improving when we lost 2 out of 3 Cup of Nations?

Oshoala was even a defensive midfielder when she made her debut so u saying she was ready when Oparanozie and Ordega were not is just wild. In football if are good u are good. From what I've seen Flourish Sabastine, Esther Onyenezide and Deborah Abiodun deserve to be in the team.

Bigzigg:
She's clearly talented, but the truth is, she's got a very long way to go.

Ok tell us what she has to improve on

BascoVanVeli:
Oga u didn't address anything I said what has the coach added to this team? What does Eguavoen have to do with anything? I don't know why u must always try to attack my character to make ur point. What do homebase have to do with what we are talking about?

U saw boldness in attack after 3 long range strikes all match Tell me more

We lost our final game to Ghana and we could have lost both games to ivory Coast if they had a striker. Our only meaningful result under Waldrum was a draw to Portugal.

The objective of coaching the Super Falcons can never only be qualification because that should be a given. I want them to have a set style of play that works and also COMPETE against bigger competition and not just show up.

No bro I'm not trying to attack your character. I'm just very sure that if they were the kind of players and coach you usually prefer, you'll will be singing a different song even with the same exact results.

So I think you're judging the coach and the team too harshly. Like way too much. It's not as if the Super Falcons had been a stronger team before him. we've even had poorer results. If the team and technical crew were built according to your desire, I know you'll be more realistic and appreciative rather than setting very high standards so that you can find fault.

When the team wins, you belittle it by making funny statements. Why not also say that we should've won Canada if they didn't have a defender

Back then when ever Ayinde and Okobi plays in midfield.. the transition of the ball from defense to attack was always fast... Ajibade slows the ball a little bit and is not fast with his release of the ball for some time now truth be told, But I think it's as a result of not finding the space upfront and who to pass to, just hope Coach Randy would work on this too.

JohnBullMySon:
No bro I'm not trying to attack your character. I'm just very sure that if they were the kind of players and coach you usually prefer, you'll will be singing a different song even with the same exact results.

So I think you're judging the coach and the team too harshly. Like way too much. It's not as if the Super Falcons had been a stronger team before him. we've even had poorer results. If the team and technical crew were built according to your desire, I know you'll be more realistic and appreciative rather than setting very high standards so that you can find fault.

When the team wins, you belittle it by making funny statements. Why not also say that we should've won Canada if they didn't have a defender

Look at this guy. U are just telling lies at this point. Tell us what the coach has added?

So because I want some of the U20 girls to get a look that means I don't like the team? That's just silly.

Now show me where I made a funny statement about the team after a win.

If you are Good enough you are old enough , look at players like Fati , pedri and gavi for spain all these players should be playing u17 or u20 football when they made their debut for the senior team and since then they ave not looked back

21yrs Old Onyi Echegini is truly talented but still need to prove herself first.... Maybe more game time.

Never knew Aisha Falode was one of the officials in Canada.

From an observer's perspective, I think the welfare of the super falcons has improved the last few years. I really can't speak of promptness in the payment of match bonuses, but hospitality wise the NFF seem to have improved

Okay guys just look at how Ajibade tends to draw about 3-5 Canadian players to herself... This is one thing she does regularly and we need to take advantage of her strength..



This is something we should be using against the Canadian side, for example having a pacy Ordega and Oshoala have, Ajibade could easily find a way of releasing the ball to them while Ordega and co or any player available can punish them..



We need that quick transition once we gain possession..

Schemerkhiz:
Okay guys just look at how Ajibade tends to draw about 3-5 Canadian players to herself... This is one thing she does regularly and we need to take advantage of her strength..



This is something we should be using against the Canadian side, for example having a pacy Ordega and Oshoala have, Ajibade could easily find a way of releasing the ball to them while Ordega and co or any player available can punish them..



We need that quick transition once we gain possession..

Randy in today's interview picks Ajibade as the best player on the pitch and I tend to agree. Like you rightly mentioned, we need to do better with our forward transition. The girls have to be swift and decisive with the ball.

This YouTuber has graciously promised to stream tomorrow's game. His link was posted here during the first game, will be reposting for emphasis.

Time again is 3:30am 12th April WAT.

https://youtube.com/channel/UCS08rj5msc99xZR0kYDJhog

BascoVanVeli:
Akudo Ogbonna cut it against the Canadians so ur point takes another big L. Can u name a homebase that didn't perform for waldrum Was it Gift Monday who won a match with a brace or Vivian Ikekwukwu who scored the 2 goals against South Africa?

Your point was that Africa has massively improved and I asked if they were not improving when we lost 2 out of 3 Cup of Nations?

Oshoala was even a defensive midfielder when she made her debut so u saying she was ready when Oparanozie and Ordega were not is just wild. In football if are good u are good. From what I've seen Flourish Sabastine, Esther Onyenezide and Deborah Abiodun deserve to be in the team.

They are all largely unpolished..

When Equatorial Guinea won those cups, the level of the game was still poor. Then, it was just about Nigeria, South Africa, EQ. Guinea, Ghana, Cameroon...The gap btw these teams and others was very large. Such is not the case today, okay... We've got strong teams in Ivory coast, Mali, Zambia, Tanzania, Morrocco, etc.

While progress is being made, the standard on the continent is still low. Problem is, Nigeria hasn't been improving.

You have to leave those young girls to prove themselves at the U20 first.

isan:
If you are Good enough you are old enough , look at players like Fati , pedri and gavi for spain all these players should be playing u17 or u20 football when they made their debut for the senior team and since then they ave not looked back

Are you seriously comparing those girls with the players you named above? Cool down, bro, the coach knows they have a very long way to go. At least, let them prove themselves at the U20 world cup.

Is super falcons on the level of barca or spain ?

Bigzigg:
Are you seriously comparing those girls with the players you named above? Cool down, bro, the coach knows they have a very long way to go. At least, let them prove themselves at the U20 world cup.

BascoVanVeli:
Akudo Ogbonna cut it against the Canadians so ur point takes another big L. Can u name a homebase that didn't perform for waldrum Was it Gift Monday who won a match with a brace or Vivian Ikekwukwu who scored the 2 goals against South Africa?

Your point was that Africa has massively improved and I asked if they were not improving when we lost 2 out of 3 Cup of Nations?

Oshoala was even a defensive midfielder when she made her debut so u saying she was ready when Oparanozie and Ordega were not is just wild. In football if are good u are good. From what I've seen Flourish Sabastine, Esther Onyenezide and Deborah Abiodun deserve to be in the team.

The above listed U20 Players are very good and they're currently the Key and Star player's of the Falconet, but right now if we're to go with Deborah Abiodun battling with the Combative Otu and Ucheibe for the DM role it going to be a tough task for her, there's no way she's going to unseat Otu and Ucheibe.. Lt wait and see what she brings at the U20 FIFA Women's World Cup later this year!

Look at Esther Onyenezide very small but mighty, she's still very raw, put her down with Ajibade, Okobi and Payne she will only learn from them for the now... Trust me she won't be able to win the Superfalcon team spot battle with any of them right now..


Flourish Sabastine the Ultimate among them all will have the likes of Uchenna Kanu, Esther Okoronkwo and Co to battle with upfront, she's very good but lack of experience will knock her out for the now, she needs that U20 World Cup and at least a year more to be at the same level with them...

Bigzigg:
They are all largely unpolished..

When Equatorial Guinea won those cups, the level of the game was still poor. Then, it was just about Nigeria, South Africa, EQ. Guinea, Ghana, Cameroon...The gap btw these teams and others was very large. Such is not the case today, okay... We've got strong teams in Ivory coast, Mali, Zambia, Tanzania, Morrocco, etc.

While progress is being made, the standard on the continent is still low. Problem is, Nigeria hasn't been improving.

You have to leave those young girls to prove themselves at the U20 first.

Bigzigg:
Are you seriously comparing those girls with the players you named above? Cool down, bro, the coach knows they have a very long way to go. At least, let them prove themselves at the U20 world cup.

If you are Good enough you are old enough...

If Barca had left messi, fati, Pedri and Gavi e.t.c to play youth football they will not be scoring the match winning goals that they scored and are scoring..

Pedri won't have been in the senior team to score the winning goal against Sevilla.
Messi won't have been the player he is today...

BascoVanVeli:
Look at this guy. U are just telling lies at this point. Tell us what the coach has added?

So because I want some of the U20 girls to get a look that means I don't like the team? That's just silly.

Now show me where I made a funny statement about the team after a win.

You just said that in your last statement.

I know you have players in your head but please allow the coach to do his thing. Calling him poor and running him down because you don't like him or some of his selections is unnecessary. You can't defend your statement about him being poor because he hasn't been. At least for now.

isan:
If you are Good enough you are old enough , look at players like Fati , pedri and gavi for spain all these players should be playing u17 or u20 football when they made their debut for the senior team and since then they ave not looked back

Those players you mentioned had obtained elite status at their clubs.

Tell me one player who made it to those national teams solely on performance in an age grade competition?

JohnBullMySon:
Those players you mentioned had obtained elite status at their clubs.

Tell me one player who made it to those national teams solely on performance in an age grade competition?

Ronaldo de lima

Denílson

Ronaldinho

Lionel Messi

Cristiano Ronaldo

Xavi

Iniesta

e.t.c..

JohnBullMySon:
You just said that in your last statement.

I know you have players in your head but please allow the coach to do his thing. Calling him poor and running him down because you don't like him or some of his selections is unnecessary. You can't defend your statement about him being poor because he hasn't been. At least for now.

U don't have anything to talk about. U think u can use sentiments to stop me from voicing my opinion? Where does is say that a spade shouldn't be called a spade?

Again, where did I make a funny statement Let me guess because it is something u don't agree with it is a funny statement. Now u say I don't like a man that I never met in my life u got ur argument straight out the average Nigerian playbook. Attack the person and not the subject.

Now I asked u what the coach has added to the team before u started beating around the bush

codemaniacs:
Ronaldo de lima
Denílson
Ronaldinho
Lionel Messi
Cristiano Ronaldo
Xavi
Iniesta
e.t.c..

So these players were not performing in their respective clubs?
Did you even understand my question

BascoVanVeli:
U don't have anything to talk about. U think u can use sentiments to stop me from voicing my opinion? Where does is say that a spade shouldn't be called a spade?

Again, where did I make a funny statement Let me guess because it is something u don't agree with it is a funny statement. Now u say I don't like a man that I never met in my life u got ur argument straight out the average Nigerian playbook. Attack the person and not the subject.

Now I asked u what the coach has added to the team before u started beating around the bush

Are you not the one who said here that we won Ivory coast out of luck. Something we did over two legs

He was the first coach to scale through this new qualifiers format of death by beating two top ranked African sides without his star player and Captain Oshoala.

At least respect him for that. Finito

lovewins:
This YouTuber has graciously promised to stream tomorrow's game. His link was posted here during the first game, will be reposting for emphasis.

Time again is 3:30am 12th April WAT.

https://youtube.com/channel/UCS08rj5msc99xZR0kYDJhog

Thank you

JohnBullMySon:
Are you not the one who said here that we won Ivory coast out of luck. Something we did over two legs

He was the first coach to scale through this new qualifiers format of death by beating two top ranked African sides without his star player and Captain Oshoala.

At least respect him for that. Finito

Oshoala only missed ivory Coast.

So we should never question the coach because u have a crush on him or what I never called the team lucky but even if I did would that be the first time it has been said in football People said Barcelona was lucky yesterday against Levante, did the world end? Abeg free me. U obviously have a personal issue that I don't care about. Peace.

codemaniacs:
If you are Good enough you are old enough...

If Barca had left messi, fati, Pedri and Gavi e.t.c to play youth football they will not be scoring the match winning goals that they scored and are scoring..

Pedri won't have been in the senior team to score the winning goal against Sevilla.
Messi won't have been the player he is today...

Barca's situation is clearly different from the Super Falcon's. On what basis are you making this comparison? Is it in the area of football education the young players receive at the academy of Barca, the coaches they're exposed to, training equipment, etc., vis-a-vis the Nigerian system?

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