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Re: Finnish And Swedish Leaders To Hold Joint Press Conference On NATO Membership by ExcelDBM: 7:19am On Apr 14, 2022
Botlord:

Having ties with Russia is the main reason Ukraine is still standing, Russia is taking them with kid glove... There are many ethnic Russia in Ukraine which is making it difficult to do some high level attack but that won't applies to Sweden and Finland...

I hope someone tell them this, I don't want to hear Russia is destroying Finland or Sweden later...

With both countries having a population of less than 17 million and land mass a little above Ukraine's, I hope someone is advising them thoughtfully... Bombing them to Oblivion will be a walk over, don't poke sleeping Lion...

#Advice
Ciao

Tell them!
Re: Finnish And Swedish Leaders To Hold Joint Press Conference On NATO Membership by Micmuzac: 7:20am On Apr 14, 2022
Micmuzac:


There it is in black and white. The Biden team wants to “goad Russia into a military response” in order to sabotage NordStream. That implies there will be some kind of provocation designed to induce Putin to send his troops across the border to defend the ethnic Russians in the eastern part of the country. If Putin takes the bait, the response would be swift and harsh. The media will excoriate the action as a threat to all of Europe while leaders around the world will denounce Putin as the “new Hitler”. This is Washington’s strategy in a nutshell, and the whole production is being orchestrated with one goal in mind; to make it politically impossible for the German Chancellor Olaf Scholz to wave NordStream through the final approval process. Hi
I like the school of thought explained out here, but Russia has never helped matters, her panic modes has only straightened the feared deterrence in Europe and I saw it coming is he going to win Europe by guns, or improve her diplomatic tools, nobody will dare fire at Russia first if Russia didn't shoot a bullet, she played into their hands ,the economic tool could topple NATO alliance if she had persisted on such ties that testing guns and public threats that only got scared neighbors and mistrust from potential partners ,only distant countries won't panic and mistrust Russia , so nobody can help Putin nearby Russia has made that great blunder even her rank of military knows and some citizens are becoming worried too ,the best thing is to end the war there and talk to her neighbors that's the only way her gas is a good diplomatic tool not the guns!
I intended to quote someone out here but ended up modified while trying to reduce the quote pls note.
Re: Finnish And Swedish Leaders To Hold Joint Press Conference On NATO Membership by reiddecuti: 7:25am On Apr 14, 2022
Elvictor:
Please join.

I love it, Europe should destroy itself, let them feel the brute of suffering they inflicted on Africans.

Western Europe you mean cow they're the one that holds the grip in Europe.
Re: Finnish And Swedish Leaders To Hold Joint Press Conference On NATO Membership by bkool7(m): 7:26am On Apr 14, 2022
chronique:
Let's see what the outcome is but I hope they don't join. It would not be a good thing to see another Ukraine happen to both countries.


Putin and his supporters are fools.

Sweden and Finland have never put forward a proposal to join NATO until now.

And why are they planning on joining now?

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Re: Finnish And Swedish Leaders To Hold Joint Press Conference On NATO Membership by ExcelDBM: 7:28am On Apr 14, 2022
Kingsnairaland:
EU fell right into US trap!
The Ukrainian crisis has nothing to do with Ukraine. It’s about Germany and, in particular, a pipeline that connects Germany to Russia called Nord Stream 2. Washington sees the pipeline as a threat to its primacy in Europe and has tried to sabotage the project at every turn. Even so, Nord Stream has pushed ahead and is now fully-operational and ready-to-go. Once German regulators provide the final certification, the gas deliveries will begin. German homeowners and businesses will have a reliable source of clean and inexpensive energy while Russia will see a significant boost to their gas revenues. It’s a win-win situation for both parties.

The US Foreign Policy establishment is not happy about these developments. They don’t want Germany to become more dependent on Russian gas because commerce builds trust and trust leads to the expansion of trade. As relations grow warmer, more trade barriers are lifted, regulations are eased, travel and tourism increase, and a new security architecture evolves. In a world where Germany and Russia are friends and trading partners, there is no need for US military bases, no need for expensive US-made weapons and missile systems, and no need for NATO. There’s also no need to transact energy deals in US Dollars or to stockpile US Treasuries to balance accounts. Transactions between business partners can be conducted in their own currencies which is bound to precipitate a sharp decline in the value of the dollar and a dramatic shift in economic power. This is why the Biden administration opposes Nord Stream. It’s not just a pipeline, it’s a window into the future; a future in which Europe and Asia are drawn closer together into a massive free trade zone that increases their mutual power and prosperity while leaving the US on the outside looking in. Warmer relations between Germany and Russia signal an end to the “unipolar” world order the US has overseen for the last 75 years. A German-Russo alliance threatens to hasten the decline of the Superpower that is presently inching closer to the abyss. This is why Washington is determined to do everything it can to sabotage Nord Stream and keep Germany within its orbit. It’s a matter of survival.

That’s where Ukraine comes into the picture. Ukraine is Washington’s ‘weapon of choice’ for torpedoing Nord Stream and putting a wedge between Germany and Russia. The strategy is taken from page one of the US Foreign Policy Handbook under the rubric: Divide and Rule. Washington needs to create the perception that Russia poses a security threat to Europe. That’s the goal. They need to show that Putin is a bloodthirsty aggressor with a hair-trigger temper who cannot be trusted. To that end, the media has been given the assignment of reiterating over and over again, “Russia is planning to invade Ukraine.” What’s left unsaid is that Russia has not invaded any country since the dissolution of the Soviet Union, and that the US has invaded or toppled regimes in more than 50 countries in the same period of time, and that the US maintains over 800 military bases in countries around the world. None of this is reported by the media, instead the focus is on “evil Putin” who has amassed an estimated 100,000 troops along the Ukrainian border threatening to plunge all of Europe into another bloody war.

All of the hysterical war propaganda is created with the intention of manufacturing a crisis that can be used to isolate, demonize and, ultimately, splinter Russia into smaller units. The real target, however, is not Russia, but Germany. Check out this excerpt from an article by Michael Hudson at The Unz Review:

“The only way left for U.S. diplomats to block European purchases is to goad Russia into a military response and then claim that avenging this response outweighs any purely national economic interest. As hawkish Under-Secretary of State for Political Affairs, Victoria Nuland, explained in a State Department press briefing on January 27: “If Russia invades Ukraine one way or another Nord Stream 2 will not move forward.” (“America’s Real Adversaries Are Its European and Other Allies”, The Unz Review)

There it is in black and white. The Biden team wants to “goad Russia into a military response” in order to sabotage NordStream. That implies there will be some kind of provocation designed to induce Putin to send his troops across the border to defend the ethnic Russians in the eastern part of the country. If Putin takes the bait, the response would be swift and harsh. The media will excoriate the action as a threat to all of Europe while leaders around the world will denounce Putin as the “new Hitler”. This is Washington’s strategy in a nutshell, and the whole production is being orchestrated with one goal in mind; to make it politically impossible for the German Chancellor Olaf Scholz to wave NordStream through the final approval process. Hi

Eye opener
Re: Finnish And Swedish Leaders To Hold Joint Press Conference On NATO Membership by redcliff: 7:42am On Apr 14, 2022
Deffjam:
and what gives Russia the right to do so??

Do you even think to fight on do many fronts is easy??

What gives obama the right to influence the nigeria election of 2015? What gives the US the right to ask us to undo our anti gay laws?
Re: Finnish And Swedish Leaders To Hold Joint Press Conference On NATO Membership by shonepa(m): 7:47am On Apr 14, 2022
I just dont unserstand this our country Nigeria again....or should i just say Nairaland

There is internet , make research, know what NATO is, even the Late Mandela knew how manipulative they are. But he did not break because he was strong and wise.

Do you even know why NATO was formed?

And how they broke their promise (Lied) to Russia.

And did you even know when all this NATO thing was formed Russia tried to join?

Also NATO targeted one of the surrounding countries Russia and bombed them without informing russia or EU.

Most of this things are not on cnn or bbc, but history cant be erased.


Benny6944:


Source: https://m.dw.com/en/finnish-and-swedish-leaders-to-hold-joint-press-conference-on-nato-membership/a-61458860
Re: Finnish And Swedish Leaders To Hold Joint Press Conference On NATO Membership by Igbofam: 7:48am On Apr 14, 2022
chronique:


Finland shares land border with Russia.

And close to 90% of the citizens of Finland don't give a fvck about Russia.

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Re: Finnish And Swedish Leaders To Hold Joint Press Conference On NATO Membership by 989900: 7:50am On Apr 14, 2022
Kingsnairaland:
EU fell right into US trap!
The Ukrainian crisis has nothing to do with Ukraine. It’s about Germany and, in particular, a pipeline that connects Germany to Russia called Nord Stream 2. Washington sees the pipeline as a threat to its primacy in Europe and has tried to sabotage the project at every turn. Even so, Nord Stream has pushed ahead and is now fully-operational and ready-to-go. Once German regulators provide the final certification, the gas deliveries will begin. German homeowners and businesses will have a reliable source of clean and inexpensive energy while Russia will see a significant boost to their gas revenues. It’s a win-win situation for both parties.

The US Foreign Policy establishment is not happy about these developments. They don’t want Germany to become more dependent on Russian gas because commerce builds trust and trust leads to the expansion of trade. As relations grow warmer, more trade barriers are lifted, regulations are eased, travel and tourism increase, and a new security architecture evolves. In a world where Germany and Russia are friends and trading partners, there is no need for US military bases, no need for expensive US-made weapons and missile systems, and no need for NATO. There’s also no need to transact energy deals in US Dollars or to stockpile US Treasuries to balance accounts. Transactions between business partners can be conducted in their own currencies which is bound to precipitate a sharp decline in the value of the dollar and a dramatic shift in economic power. This is why the Biden administration opposes Nord Stream. It’s not just a pipeline, it’s a window into the future; a future in which Europe and Asia are drawn closer together into a massive free trade zone that increases their mutual power and prosperity while leaving the US on the outside looking in. Warmer relations between Germany and Russia signal an end to the “unipolar” world order the US has overseen for the last 75 years. A German-Russo alliance threatens to hasten the decline of the Superpower that is presently inching closer to the abyss. This is why Washington is determined to do everything it can to sabotage Nord Stream and keep Germany within its orbit. It’s a matter of survival.

That’s where Ukraine comes into the picture. Ukraine is Washington’s ‘weapon of choice’ for torpedoing Nord Stream and putting a wedge between Germany and Russia. The strategy is taken from page one of the US Foreign Policy Handbook under the rubric: Divide and Rule. Washington needs to create the perception that Russia poses a security threat to Europe. That’s the goal. They need to show that Putin is a bloodthirsty aggressor with a hair-trigger temper who cannot be trusted. To that end, the media has been given the assignment of reiterating over and over again, “Russia is planning to invade Ukraine.” What’s left unsaid is that Russia has not invaded any country since the dissolution of the Soviet Union, and that the US has invaded or toppled regimes in more than 50 countries in the same period of time, and that the US maintains over 800 military bases in countries around the world. None of this is reported by the media, instead the focus is on “evil Putin” who has amassed an estimated 100,000 troops along the Ukrainian border threatening to plunge all of Europe into another bloody war.

All of the hysterical war propaganda is created with the intention of manufacturing a crisis that can be used to isolate, demonize and, ultimately, splinter Russia into smaller units. The real target, however, is not Russia, but Germany. Check out this excerpt from an article by Michael Hudson at The Unz Review:

“The only way left for U.S. diplomats to block European purchases is to goad Russia into a military response and then claim that avenging this response outweighs any purely national economic interest. As hawkish Under-Secretary of State for Political Affairs, Victoria Nuland, explained in a State Department press briefing on January 27: “If Russia invades Ukraine one way or another Nord Stream 2 will not move forward.” (“America’s Real Adversaries Are Its European and Other Allies”, The Unz Review)

There it is in black and white. The Biden team wants to “goad Russia into a military response” in order to sabotage NordStream. That implies there will be some kind of provocation designed to induce Putin to send his troops across the border to defend the ethnic Russians in the eastern part of the country. If Putin takes the bait, the response would be swift and harsh. The media will excoriate the action as a threat to all of Europe while leaders around the world will denounce Putin as the “new Hitler”. This is Washington’s strategy in a nutshell, and the whole production is being orchestrated with one goal in mind; to make it politically impossible for the German Chancellor Olaf Scholz to wave NordStream through the final approval process. Hi

Crapola

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Re: Finnish And Swedish Leaders To Hold Joint Press Conference On NATO Membership by excanny: 7:55am On Apr 14, 2022
I just feel sorry for beautiful Finland. It’s likely going to be the next demolishing for Russia.
Re: Finnish And Swedish Leaders To Hold Joint Press Conference On NATO Membership by tienegem(m): 7:55am On Apr 14, 2022
Also Ukraine at one point lost interest in join NATO ....not until after Russia annexed creame
Re: Finnish And Swedish Leaders To Hold Joint Press Conference On NATO Membership by Benny6944: 7:57am On Apr 14, 2022
shonepa:
I just dont unserstand this our country Nigeria again....or should i just say Nairaland

There is internet , make research, know what NATO is, even the Late Mandela knew how manipulative they are. But he did not break because he was strong and wise.

Do you even know why NATO was formed?

And how they broke their promise (Lied) to Russia.

And did you even know when all this NATO thing was formed Russia tried to join?

Also NATO targeted one of the surrounding countries Russia and bombed them without informing russia or EU.

Most of this things are not on cnn or bbc, but history cant be erased.







NATO was never formed when Russia tried to join. lol....

In 1992 or recently was when Russia tried to join NATO, but NATO told him he must follow due process to join, Russia as a dog they were objected and rebuffed such terms. so please don't say what you don't know.


https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/russia-could-have-joined-nato-but-why-didn-t-they-do-it-55561

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Re: Finnish And Swedish Leaders To Hold Joint Press Conference On NATO Membership by Nobody: 7:58am On Apr 14, 2022
idahme:



Your write-up is too skewed in one direction and also have lots of false narrative but will just point out @bolded

The link shows Russian invassion post Soviet Union and a total false narrative as you have asserted a above .

It's necessary to dish out accurate information while educating the public

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_invasion
Na only mumu go read the nonsense wey that boy write,na copy and paste.

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Re: Finnish And Swedish Leaders To Hold Joint Press Conference On NATO Membership by InternalAuditor: 8:00am On Apr 14, 2022
NATO na your mate, even Putin dey shit whenever NATO caughs

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Re: Finnish And Swedish Leaders To Hold Joint Press Conference On NATO Membership by darams4all(m): 8:14am On Apr 14, 2022
Kingsnairaland:
EU fell right into US trap!
The Ukrainian crisis has nothing to do with Ukraine. It’s about Germany and, in particular, a pipeline that connects Germany to Russia called Nord Stream 2. Washington sees the pipeline as a threat to its primacy in Europe and has tried to sabotage the project at every turn. Even so, Nord Stream has pushed ahead and is now fully-operational and ready-to-go. Once German regulators provide the final certification, the gas deliveries will begin. German homeowners and businesses will have a reliable source of clean and inexpensive energy while Russia will see a significant boost to their gas revenues. It’s a win-win situation for both parties.

The US Foreign Policy establishment is not happy about these developments. They don’t want Germany to become more dependent on Russian gas because commerce builds trust and trust leads to the expansion of trade. As relations grow warmer, more trade barriers are lifted, regulations are eased, travel and tourism increase, and a new security architecture evolves. In a world where Germany and Russia are friends and trading partners, there is no need for US military bases, no need for expensive US-made weapons and missile systems, and no need for NATO. There’s also no need to transact energy deals in US Dollars or to stockpile US Treasuries to balance accounts. Transactions between business partners can be conducted in their own currencies which is bound to precipitate a sharp decline in the value of the dollar and a dramatic shift in economic power. This is why the Biden administration opposes Nord Stream. It’s not just a pipeline, it’s a window into the future; a future in which Europe and Asia are drawn closer together into a massive free trade zone that increases their mutual power and prosperity while leaving the US on the outside looking in. Warmer relations between Germany and Russia signal an end to the “unipolar” world order the US has overseen for the last 75 years. A German-Russo alliance threatens to hasten the decline of the Superpower that is presently inching closer to the abyss. This is why Washington is determined to do everything it can to sabotage Nord Stream and keep Germany within its orbit. It’s a matter of survival.

That’s where Ukraine comes into the picture. Ukraine is Washington’s ‘weapon of choice’ for torpedoing Nord Stream and putting a wedge between Germany and Russia. The strategy is taken from page one of the US Foreign Policy Handbook under the rubric: Divide and Rule. Washington needs to create the perception that Russia poses a security threat to Europe. That’s the goal. They need to show that Putin is a bloodthirsty aggressor with a hair-trigger temper who cannot be trusted. To that end, the media has been given the assignment of reiterating over and over again, “Russia is planning to invade Ukraine.” What’s left unsaid is that Russia has not invaded any country since the dissolution of the Soviet Union, and that the US has invaded or toppled regimes in more than 50 countries in the same period of time, and that the US maintains over 800 military bases in countries around the world. None of this is reported by the media, instead the focus is on “evil Putin” who has amassed an estimated 100,000 troops along the Ukrainian border threatening to plunge all of Europe into another bloody war.

All of the hysterical war propaganda is created with the intention of manufacturing a crisis that can be used to isolate, demonize and, ultimately, splinter Russia into smaller units. The real target, however, is not Russia, but Germany. Check out this excerpt from an article by Michael Hudson at The Unz Review:

“The only way left for U.S. diplomats to block European purchases is to goad Russia into a military response and then claim that avenging this response outweighs any purely national economic interest. As hawkish Under-Secretary of State for Political Affairs, Victoria Nuland, explained in a State Department press briefing on January 27: “If Russia invades Ukraine one way or another Nord Stream 2 will not move forward.” (“America’s Real Adversaries Are Its European and Other Allies”, The Unz Review)

There it is in black and white. The Biden team wants to “goad Russia into a military response” in order to sabotage NordStream. That implies there will be some kind of provocation designed to induce Putin to send his troops across the border to defend the ethnic Russians in the eastern part of the country. If Putin takes the bait, the response would be swift and harsh. The media will excoriate the action as a threat to all of Europe while leaders around the world will denounce Putin as the “new Hitler”. This is Washington’s strategy in a nutshell, and the whole production is being orchestrated with one goal in mind; to make it politically impossible for the German Chancellor Olaf Scholz to wave NordStream through the final approval process. Hi


What an insightful piece. I really appreciate the time spent to precipitate this.

It's clear America does not want Nord stream 2 to be completed however, your write up has butress to explain Ukraine's role in making that happen. Because I believe with or without the war in as much as Russia is still economically strong and there are no legally binding sanctions with respect to Int'l relations that could prevent them from completing this pipeline. I therefore don't see how the cold war btw UslS and Russia can prevent that from happening eventually.

Previous explanation given to the Russian invasion of Ukraine was that their alliance with NATO will further expose Russia's military investments in Ukraine considering their history together.

A part of me amagree with you in some areas cos I believe this war is more about economic dominance between these two powerful nation's especially the rejection of Petrodollar Regine by Russia than just for military might. However, am still puting the pieces together to come up with a robust explanation.

Can you pls butress more on the role of Ukraine in ensuring the Nord Stream 2 is not completed? Thank you.
Re: Finnish And Swedish Leaders To Hold Joint Press Conference On NATO Membership by alanto: 8:21am On Apr 14, 2022
Kingsnairaland:
EU fell right into US trap!
The Ukrainian crisis has nothing to do with Ukraine. It’s about Germany and, in particular, a pipeline that connects Germany to Russia called Nord Stream 2. Washington sees the pipeline as a threat to its primacy in Europe and has tried to sabotage the project at every turn. Even so, Nord Stream has pushed ahead and is now fully-operational and ready-to-go. Once German regulators provide the final certification, the gas deliveries will begin. German homeowners and businesses will have a reliable source of clean and inexpensive energy while Russia will see a significant boost to their gas revenues. It’s a win-win situation for both parties.

The US Foreign Policy establishment is not happy about these developments. They don’t want Germany to become more dependent on Russian gas because commerce builds trust and trust leads to the expansion of trade. As relations grow warmer, more trade barriers are lifted, regulations are eased, travel and tourism increase, and a new security architecture evolves. In a world where Germany and Russia are friends and trading partners, there is no need for US military bases, no need for expensive US-made weapons and missile systems, and no need for NATO. There’s also no need to transact energy deals in US Dollars or to stockpile US Treasuries to balance accounts. Transactions between business partners can be conducted in their own currencies which is bound to precipitate a sharp decline in the value of the dollar and a dramatic shift in economic power. This is why the Biden administration opposes Nord Stream. It’s not just a pipeline, it’s a window into the future; a future in which Europe and Asia are drawn closer together into a massive free trade zone that increases their mutual power and prosperity while leaving the US on the outside looking in. Warmer relations between Germany and Russia signal an end to the “unipolar” world order the US has overseen for the last 75 years. A German-Russo alliance threatens to hasten the decline of the Superpower that is presently inching closer to the abyss. This is why Washington is determined to do everything it can to sabotage Nord Stream and keep Germany within its orbit. It’s a matter of survival.

That’s where Ukraine comes into the picture. Ukraine is Washington’s ‘weapon of choice’ for torpedoing Nord Stream and putting a wedge between Germany and Russia. The strategy is taken from page one of the US Foreign Policy Handbook under the rubric: Divide and Rule. Washington needs to create the perception that Russia poses a security threat to Europe. That’s the goal. They need to show that Putin is a bloodthirsty aggressor with a hair-trigger temper who cannot be trusted. To that end, the media has been given the assignment of reiterating over and over again, “Russia is planning to invade Ukraine.” What’s left unsaid is that Russia has not invaded any country since the dissolution of the Soviet Union, and that the US has invaded or toppled regimes in more than 50 countries in the same period of time, and that the US maintains over 800 military bases in countries around the world. None of this is reported by the media, instead the focus is on “evil Putin” who has amassed an estimated 100,000 troops along the Ukrainian border threatening to plunge all of Europe into another bloody war.

All of the hysterical war propaganda is created with the intention of manufacturing a crisis that can be used to isolate, demonize and, ultimately, splinter Russia into smaller units. The real target, however, is not Russia, but Germany. Check out this excerpt from an article by Michael Hudson at The Unz Review:

“The only way left for U.S. diplomats to block European purchases is to goad Russia into a military response and then claim that avenging this response outweighs any purely national economic interest. As hawkish Under-Secretary of State for Political Affairs, Victoria Nuland, explained in a State Department press briefing on January 27: “If Russia invades Ukraine one way or another Nord Stream 2 will not move forward.” (“America’s Real Adversaries Are Its European and Other Allies”, The Unz Review)

There it is in black and white. The Biden team wants to “goad Russia into a military response” in order to sabotage NordStream. That implies there will be some kind of provocation designed to induce Putin to send his troops across the border to defend the ethnic Russians in the eastern part of the country. If Putin takes the bait, the response would be swift and harsh. The media will excoriate the action as a threat to all of Europe while leaders around the world will denounce Putin as the “new Hitler”. This is Washington’s strategy in a nutshell, and the whole production is being orchestrated with one goal in mind; to make it politically impossible for the German Chancellor Olaf Scholz to wave NordStream through the final approval process. Hi
Is that the reason putin invaded poor Ukraine?
Putin knowing all these went ahead to invade poor Ukraine.
If your analysis is true, then it was Russia that put herself in a trap if you know there's something as big as nordstream at stake, why make such self destructive move?

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Re: Finnish And Swedish Leaders To Hold Joint Press Conference On NATO Membership by sencekompis: 8:21am On Apr 14, 2022
Botlord:

Having ties with Russia is the main reason Ukraine is still standing, Russia is taking them with kid glove... There are many ethnic Russia in Ukraine which is making it difficult to do some high level attack but that won't applies to Sweden and Finland...

I hope someone tell them this, I don't want to hear Russia is destroying Finland or Sweden later...

With both countries having a population of less than 17 million and land mass a little above Ukraine's, I hope someone is advising them thoughtfully... Bombing them to Oblivion will be a walk over, don't poke sleeping Lion...

#Advice
Ciao


YOU'RE CHATTING RUBBISH, AM FROM SCANDINAVIA.. Sweden is not Ukraine like.

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Re: Finnish And Swedish Leaders To Hold Joint Press Conference On NATO Membership by postmann: 8:22am On Apr 14, 2022
Biodun556:


Russia action brought NATO closer to destroy Europe

And who's going to destroy Europe if I may ask, Russia?

Hahahaha! This war so far has shown Russia to be tactless and over hyped. Save for size and sheer number, this dumb monster called Russia isn't any match for its way smaller neighbours as its war history has clearly shown.

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Re: Finnish And Swedish Leaders To Hold Joint Press Conference On NATO Membership by Botlord: 8:23am On Apr 14, 2022
joyandfaith:


Do you know what happened during winter war? You guys over-rating Russia and under-rating nordic nations of sweden and Finland. You are even underating Ukraine because you have not taken time to know history of Ukraine.
What happened tell me?
In the Finnish war, USSR realised their goals just as this Ukraine ongoing war...

It's only western media that's saying another thing to undermine the goals, I don't think I need to explain that to you... Even Wikipedia explain it better...

Ciao.. kiss
Re: Finnish And Swedish Leaders To Hold Joint Press Conference On NATO Membership by Oyiboman69: 8:26am On Apr 14, 2022
Kingsnairaland:
EU fell right into US trap!
The Ukrainian crisis has nothing to do with Ukraine. It’s about Germany and, in particular, a pipeline that connects Germany to Russia called Nord Stream 2. Washington sees the pipeline as a threat to its primacy in Europe and has tried to sabotage the project at every turn. Even so, Nord Stream has pushed ahead and is now fully-operational and ready-to-go. Once German regulators provide the final certification, the gas deliveries will begin. German homeowners and businesses will have a reliable source of clean and inexpensive energy while Russia will see a significant boost to their gas revenues. It’s a win-win situation for both parties.

The US Foreign Policy establishment is not happy about these developments. They don’t want Germany to become more dependent on Russian gas because commerce builds trust and trust leads to the expansion of trade. As relations grow warmer, more trade barriers are lifted, regulations are eased, travel and tourism increase, and a new security architecture evolves. In a world where Germany and Russia are friends and trading partners, there is no need for US military bases, no need for expensive US-made weapons and missile systems, and no need for NATO. There’s also no need to transact energy deals in US Dollars or to stockpile US Treasuries to balance accounts. Transactions between business partners can be conducted in their own currencies which is bound to precipitate a sharp decline in the value of the dollar and a dramatic shift in economic power. This is why the Biden administration opposes Nord Stream. It’s not just a pipeline, it’s a window into the future; a future in which Europe and Asia are drawn closer together into a massive free trade zone that increases their mutual power and prosperity while leaving the US on the outside looking in. Warmer relations between Germany and Russia signal an end to the “unipolar” world order the US has overseen for the last 75 years. A German-Russo alliance threatens to hasten the decline of the Superpower that is presently inching closer to the abyss. This is why Washington is determined to do everything it can to sabotage Nord Stream and keep Germany within its orbit. It’s a matter of survival.

That’s where Ukraine comes into the picture. Ukraine is Washington’s ‘weapon of choice’ for torpedoing Nord Stream and putting a wedge between Germany and Russia. The strategy is taken from page one of the US Foreign Policy Handbook under the rubric: Divide and Rule. Washington needs to create the perception that Russia poses a security threat to Europe. That’s the goal. They need to show that Putin is a bloodthirsty aggressor with a hair-trigger temper who cannot be trusted. To that end, the media has been given the assignment of reiterating over and over again, “Russia is planning to invade Ukraine.” What’s left unsaid is that Russia has not invaded any country since the dissolution of the Soviet Union, and that the US has invaded or toppled regimes in more than 50 countries in the same period of time, and that the US maintains over 800 military bases in countries around the world. None of this is reported by the media, instead the focus is on “evil Putin” who has amassed an estimated 100,000 troops along the Ukrainian border threatening to plunge all of Europe into another bloody war.

All of the hysterical war propaganda is created with the intention of manufacturing a crisis that can be used to isolate, demonize and, ultimately, splinter Russia into smaller units. The real target, however, is not Russia, but Germany. Check out this excerpt from an article by Michael Hudson at The Unz Review:

“The only way left for U.S. diplomats to block European purchases is to goad Russia into a military response and then claim that avenging this response outweighs any purely national economic interest. As hawkish Under-Secretary of State for Political Affairs, Victoria Nuland, explained in a State Department press briefing on January 27: “If Russia invades Ukraine one way or another Nord Stream 2 will not move forward.” (“America’s Real Adversaries Are Its European and Other Allies”, The Unz Review)

There it is in black and white. The Biden team wants to “goad Russia into a military response” in order to sabotage NordStream. That implies there will be some kind of provocation designed to induce Putin to send his troops across the border to defend the ethnic Russians in the eastern part of the country. If Putin takes the bait, the response would be swift and harsh. The media will excoriate the action as a threat to all of Europe while leaders around the world will denounce Putin as the “new Hitler”. This is Washington’s strategy in a nutshell, and the whole production is being orchestrated with one goal in mind; to make it politically impossible for the German Chancellor Olaf Scholz to wave NordStream through the final approval process. Hi
but EU countries are buying Russian gas and it has being paid in dollars. this is not the first time that Putin is making such advancement and finally, how you believed all write up because it is coming from American writer iwithout reading between the line is something else. So all what I deduced from your post is you not fancy America in anyway.

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Re: Finnish And Swedish Leaders To Hold Joint Press Conference On NATO Membership by Oyiboman69: 8:29am On Apr 14, 2022
gambojimeta:

So Europe was the one that told you to keep electing dumbass' and corrupt people into government

grin

Re: Finnish And Swedish Leaders To Hold Joint Press Conference On NATO Membership by Oyiboman69: 8:33am On Apr 14, 2022
Rico96:
so after everybody joins NATO who will be their enemy...USA have always project Russia as the bad dog cos of the cold war and I can recall sometimes in 2008 Russia want to join NATO and was rejected cos USA see them as a only equal threat but without someone to fight then NATO seem useless
and you don't see through their intention to sabotage the the organization.... others do....

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Re: Finnish And Swedish Leaders To Hold Joint Press Conference On NATO Membership by Deffjam: 8:37am On Apr 14, 2022
redcliff:


What gives obama the right to influence the nigeria election of 2015? What gives the US the right to ask us to undo our anti gay laws?
proves please??

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Re: Finnish And Swedish Leaders To Hold Joint Press Conference On NATO Membership by Botlord: 8:37am On Apr 14, 2022
Kirigidi:
Some of you talk like illiterates. So you mean countries as big and technologically-advanced as Finland and Sweden don't have sophisticated militaries to defend themselves and also inflict maximum damage on the enemy? Is it the same Russia that is still struggling with Ukraine that will now add two more advanced countries to their woes? It seems you don't like the progress of Russia; you want to see Russia destroyed!
Their advance is the main reason they should not poke the bear...
They both have a total population of less than 17 million with a land mass a little above Ukraine's...

Russia struggling with Ukraine?? Are you blind to see they're achieving their aim from the beginning or are you quoting the western aim?

With DPR, LPR, Chechen, Russia is dealing with Ukraine... I hope you know these are a like a tip out of the vast...

Next time don't reply me like a frustrated bitch...
Re: Finnish And Swedish Leaders To Hold Joint Press Conference On NATO Membership by 1stGenAmerican(f): 8:38am On Apr 14, 2022
chronique:


Finland shares land border with Russia.
.

So do Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania. All three joined NATO so why didn’t Russia try to bully them?

Putin wouldn’t dare try his stupid shit with Finland or Sweden.

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Re: Finnish And Swedish Leaders To Hold Joint Press Conference On NATO Membership by Botlord: 8:43am On Apr 14, 2022
joyandfaith:


Do you know what happened during winter war? You guys over-rating Russia and under-rating nordic nations of sweden and Finland. You are even underating Ukraine because you have not taken time to know history of Ukraine.
which winter war?? USSR achieve it aim in that war...

I laugh when people tell me that bolded part, to me it's just anybody telling Messi he's not a good footballer..

Re: Finnish And Swedish Leaders To Hold Joint Press Conference On NATO Membership by redcliff: 8:44am On Apr 14, 2022
Re: Finnish And Swedish Leaders To Hold Joint Press Conference On NATO Membership by Idaytesj29(m): 8:45am On Apr 14, 2022
Botlord:

Having ties with Russia is the main reason Ukraine is still standing, Russia is taking them with kid glove... There are many ethnic Russia in Ukraine which is making it difficult to do some high level attack but that won't applies to Sweden and Finland...

I hope someone tell them this, I don't want to hear Russia is destroying Finland or Sweden later...

With both countries having a population of less than 17 million and land mass a little above Ukraine's, I hope someone is advising them thoughtfully... Bombing them to Oblivion will be a walk over, don't poke sleeping Lion...

#Advice
Ciao

Their membership discussion should not be done at this time. Both countries should allow Russia Ukraine conflict end first and re evaluate their position
Re: Finnish And Swedish Leaders To Hold Joint Press Conference On NATO Membership by Udemzy05: 8:47am On Apr 14, 2022
Botlord:

Ok we'll see...
I just pity Finland and Sweden, whoever is advicing them is not wishing them good...


You have nothing reasonable to post.

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