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Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Fiscus105(m): 12:17pm On Apr 15, 2022
Donshegxy10:


let me educate you a little sir.

Those you mentioned won on the structure and machinery of others.

Fashola, ambode and sanwo olu won on tinubu's structure.

You should ask yourself why a little known sanwo olu was able to disgraced a sitting governor, it is simple, the governor had an elective power without a working structure.

Yaradua won on obasanjo structure.

On which structure will osinbajo stand, mind you buhari has no structure but he is well respected as a president and a elder stateman.

I dont think buhari will support anyone, i also dont think the governors will obey buhari on who to follow because they will be looking for for their own personal interest as well.

Lastly osinbajo has been in office for over 7 years, how many politicians has he help into position, just mention 1 from each zone.

The senate, reps and majority of the governor are with tinubu.

The majority leader of the senate said and i quote "most of us are here because of the support of asiwaju, this is the time to pay him back, and many of the senate members are here to support him".


I'm very pleased for your education, and I think you are correct. Meanwhile, the same way Osinbanjo will win on the structure of Buhari.

1.It's only a blind who dnt know for now that Buhari is surporting osinbajo.

2.the same Reps and Senate that cannot say pim" during recent concluded apc elections


Tinubu camp knows that Osinbanjo is fully backed by Buhari and that's why is camp had been jiltery and more reason they are lunching more than normal rockets to the personality of Osinbanjo.

You may agree or disagree, Nigeria president is powerful to do and undo not even during Buhari reign. As it stands now, it will take devine intervention for tinubu to win.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Tareq1105: 12:17pm On Apr 15, 2022
Donshegxy10:


those you mentioned run on the structure of others.

On which structure will osinbajo run?

In few weeks we shall see.

On the structure of the party the same way Obasanjo became president.

Perhaps you're underestimating the number of Lagosians and Yorubas in general that are angry with Tinubu.

Since Osinbajo declaration on Monday, do you know the number of votes and support Asiwaju had dropped? Do you know the implications of Asiwaju going into election with Osinbajo?

Yes, Tinubu is this, Tinubu is that. He made Osinbajo, thank God for Tinubu life. No one came from heaven, someone is made by someone. It's normal in our journey of life. Even you that is reading this, someone made you through the help of God. Therefore, no one should assume the position of God in any man's life. God doesn't like it.

Yes, Tinubu is more popular and well connected. The election is not about the most popular but there are other factors that would have to be considered and it's those factors that pushed Osinbajo out to contest.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by emkz: 12:19pm On Apr 15, 2022
A lot of articles will be pushed forward to discredit Tinubu.

I can't respond to all of them, but here are my thoughts:

(1) We claim Tinubu is old, did we not have a "young" President who had a terminal illness? Did we not have another young President who died suddenly? As for those claiming Tinubu is not healthy, please publish his health records for us to see.

(2) We talk of religion, the religious societies like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, how are they doing economically? Why do you Christians run to Dubai? Deep in our hearts, are we really concerned about religion or it is just a convenient excuse we use?

I am for a Bola Tinubu and Babagana Zulum ticket. I am at the point in my life where I am no more religious, but striving towards my spirituality.

(3) They claim Tinubu ousted Ambode and did not listen to pleas. All politics is local. Ambode had stepped on the toes of local politicians by cutting them off and they said they didn't want him. Should Tinubu have gone against them? Remember, you are only as popular as those loyal to you.

(4) They claim Tinubu has educational baggage, but his school has admitted they have record of his attendance. But we choose not to accept it, because it helps our narrative.

(5) They say Tinubu is corrupt. Which court has convicted him of corruption?

I want to assess my vote on mental capacity for innovative leadership, nationwide outreach, experience and knowledge of the problems.

Does Tinubu fit all these? Can he win elections for APC?

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Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Gozac: 12:19pm On Apr 15, 2022
AKAyomide:
You just seat in the comfort of your house and draft all this stuffs out. Presidential primary election has something to do with popular contests in which determine the political party success at the any electoral elections. The fact is that Tinubu has wide participations structure in the country which is a great defined for him but the party have to think about to retain power at all cost. Amachi and Tinubu has what it takes due to thier past achievement. The power of incumbency doesn't collect in this kind of contest but just for Osibanjo to test his popularity. All I see is the victory for either Amachi or Tinubu.
I see Amaechi carrying the day. Have analysed all the candidates, he is in vantage position to emerge and when he emerges, he may likely win the presidency
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Ojycelarma: 12:20pm On Apr 15, 2022
The fact that these two men from the same tribe are going against each other says a lot about our dear country Nigeria. Its means its all about interest the remaining local people are not included. Means they don't have the same ideology even though they belong to the same party.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Nobody: 12:22pm On Apr 15, 2022
LillyandDaisy:

Bola should have play a huge role of elder state man by not contesting at all… I like him but I hate greediness

Bruv, what greed? Tinubu just has huge self-belief that is predicated on a solid history of spectacular achievement over many decades.

Is that not what you should want in a President? We all have constituencies in life be it our family, local mens club or even our business/job function.

Just show me one constituency Tinubu has failed. Spectacular success in the private sector. Universally lauded success as Lagos Governor. Incredible work, through ACN, to rout PDP in the SW and make the Party the majority in the region.

A feat no other could achieve against PDP with the likes of inferior weaklings like Obi even abandoning APGA to flee to PDP when he realized he is a follower rather than leader like BAT. Atiku too is a serial defector whereas Tinubu has built political. Institutions others are using as platforms of service.

Shall we then talk of what BAT did with APC when PDP, through Ogbulafor, had bragged it would rule Nigeria for 60 years?

Who else has mentored anywhere near the number of effective leaders Tinubu has directly elevated into Nigerian political offices and consciousness?

Some of you are just biased that is why you use totally incongrous words, like "greediness" to malign Tinubu when you should just confess you hate him because of sectional bias.

It is a crime for someone with Tinubus spectacular vision and achievement to never lead Nigeria. We are all still suffering today from how forces of regression were allowed to frustrate Awolowo.

I will personally do my best, in my little way, to ensure Tinubu becomes President of Nigeria because it is history repeating itself with enemies of progress trying to win, again, so we remain a basket case Nation despite our huge potentials.

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Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Gozac: 12:24pm On Apr 15, 2022
Fiscus105:



I'm very pleased for your education, and I think you are correct. Meanwhile, the same way Osinbanjo will win on the structure of Buhari.

It's only a blind who dnt know for now that Buhari is surporting osinbajo

Tinubu camp knows that Osinbanjo is fully backed by Buhari and that's why is camp had been jiltery and more reason they are lunching more than normal rockets to the personality of Osinbanjo.

You may agree or disagree, Nigeria president is powerful to do and undo not even during Buhari reign. As it stands now, it will take devine intervention for tinubu to win.
Amaechi is the one backed by PMB not Osibanjo, political neophytes and tribal bigots cannot discern it. BAT knows this himself
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Fiscus105(m): 12:25pm On Apr 15, 2022
Gozac:

Amaechi is the one backed by PMB not Osibanjo, political neophytes and tribal bigots cannot discern it. BAT knows this himself


Yes sir, keep on masturbating.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by kingyakos: 12:26pm On Apr 15, 2022
Dsalvo:


Amaechi is not in consideration. Forget his 'smoke screen' challenge. APC candidate will 100% be from the SW.


100% SW indeed. SW are better off political analyst than being a politician. U think politics at national level is same as state level, SW has become broom in the hands of fulani when it comes to politics, una don fall enter fulani trap, osinbajo declaration has perfected the fulani plan and they're even encouraging more Yorubas to declare for president uder APC so to perfectly seal their consensus candidate plan.....I don give u expo so use ur head
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by deebrownneymar: 12:30pm On Apr 15, 2022
Your position here only gives reasons why Osinbajo is better but not enough reason for Tinubu to lose. Don’t forget it was money Atiku used to win the last PDP presidential primaries
NaijaCowFarm:
Leadership is not a popularity contest - Adams Oshomole

It is not arguable that Tinubu has a very large political structure. It is also not arguable that Tinubu can defeat Osinbajo in an Open Ballot system, but APC primaries are not going to be an open ballot system where people queue behind their candidates, rather it is going to be an Open-Secret Ballot system. In an open-ballot system, once I vote against you, you know, so I will be reluctant to vote another after assuring you or collecting your money. However, in an Open-Secret ballot, I can assure you that I will vote for you, collect your money yet vote my "heart".

Now on the day of the APC primaries, these are the facts that would be very clear:

Tinubu is too old to govern effectively: With the hindsight of Buhari's challenges, APC would rather go for a younger and much healthier candidate than an old and sick Tinubu. This is a clear advantage that Osinbajo would have. Most of the delegates would be easily swayed towards Osinbajo right inside the ballot cage, where they would thumb-print their ballot, fold it and come out openly to cast it in the ballot box. Mark you, it is going to be the same ballot box for all candidates, so you cannot know who was voted until the ballots are sorted and counted.

Tinubu's bad faith towards Ambode: The bad deed that Tinubu did to Ambode is still fresh in the minds of the governors, both single-term and second-term governors. it is on record that the governors overwhelmingly rejected the direct primaries simply because Tinubu and his men in NASS arranged to have them treated like Ambode. moreso, it was reported that the APC governor's forum led by Atiku Bagudu (who is still in charge by the way), went to Tinubu's residence in Abuja to beg and prostrate to the Jagaban to allow Ambode to complete his tenure, but baba shuns them. Now, he is running after the same Bagudu, even going to the Kebbi Lodge to beg then. They are sure to require their pound of flesh on behalf of Ambode.

Religious sentiments: Since 2015 Nigeria has been governed by a Muslim, Muhammadu Buhari. If another Muslim from the South takes over from Buhari in 2023, the Muslims would have had another 8 years, making a total of 16. Now when power returns to the North, obviously another Muslim would take over for another 8 years. In total, the Muslims would be president from 2015 - to 2039, a whopping 24 uninterrupted years. That is NOT FEASIBLE. Hence, rational as the delegates are, they would avoid such a trap that would easily hand power back to the PDP. The delegates would rather vote for Osinbajo than Tinubu.

Running mate wahahala: We all recall the challenges that Buhari faced in choosing a running mate in 2015. Buhari was under pressure to avoid the Muslim-Muslim ticket in 2015, even with over 10 million Northern votes in the kitty. Tells that with a Tinubu's candidacy, it would be tougher for APC. Firstly, Tinubu does not have the cult following that Buhari commanded in 2015. Secondly, the North would never accept a Northern Christian VP, this is an unwritten law. Adopting such would mean FAILURE in the North. Hence the only option that Tinubu would have is a Muslim-Muslim ticket, which would FAIL woefully at elections. Even APC NEC would advise against such a move. The obvious alternative would be Osinbajo.

Unaccounted Baggages: Accountability is the acceptance of responsibility for one's own actions. It implies a willingness to be transparent, allowing others to observe and evaluate one's performance. Integrity is the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles; moral uprightness. Measured on these two words, Osinbajo would beat Tinubu by a clear distance. Firstly, Tinubu has held Lagos to a stranglehold for the past 23 years. He has made sure that his son controls all the key revenue-generating sectors of the state, the numerous toll gates, etc. His daughter controls all the markets in Lagos, his son-in-law is in NASS, and his wife is a senator for life, he receives 10% tithes from Lagos State. These are baggages that Nigeria's state cannot accommodate. Even now, he has closed NURTW in Lagos and handed it over to his cronies. Is this the type of person that Nigeria wants to give power over the nation and national treasury and power?
Responsible delegates would avoid such a person because, when push goes to shove, Nigerians would be better off without such baggages. Hence the Osinbajo appeal would suffice.

Academic and foundational credence: Tinubu's state of origin, early education, age, and birth are all mysteries. Noone knows where he is from. Noone knows his father, no one knows where he got his first school leaving certificate nor his high school certificate nor diploma. All we hear is that he graduated from some University in the USA. There are those that say that his daughter is 61 years old while Tinubu is claiming 70 years old. That is a mystery too many to be overlooked. Hence Osinbajo would come as a sterling candidate to sell rather than a Tunubu with these baggages of unexplained mysteries.

Conclusion: Osinbajo would trounce Tinubu in APC primaries. However, APC may not form the next government, no matter who they field!
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by everyevery: 12:31pm On Apr 15, 2022
The secret behind Tinubu’s education history is in Osinbajo’s hand
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Tareq1105: 12:31pm On Apr 15, 2022
So, who would you suggest to be the Vice of Tinubu if he wins the primary election?

Dsalvo:


You're simply "blindfolded" by hate and nothing else. Even an Awolowo that is 120 years old will lead better than a Sowore that is 35.

The problem of most Nigerians is that you naively and simplistically take your examples from abroad, and other climes, most of you have never set foot in.

To that extent, you are not realistic or even cognisant of what is possible and what is impossible in your own nation.

Local problems need local solutions. You cannot ask of your democracy wjat is 50 years in her future merely because you see that in place in thr USA and UK today. Hiw many average Nigerians are like Britons and Americans in civic sophistication?

You people will never understand that. Dambazau, as COAS, was blatantly undermining and disobeying Jonathan because he viewed GEJ as an undeserving accident in Aso Rock and not a meritorious 'owner of Nigeria' leader he must respect like Buhari, Danjuma, Abiola, Tinubu, Atiku, IBB.

Even ordinary Nigerians prove my point with how they will give Atiku 11 million votes while they support Sowore and Moghalu with 30k votes.

The peculiarities of Nigeria makes Tinubu best for Aso Rock. He is a proper 'owner of Nigeria' politician everyone will respect to include those who do not like him.

He then happens to command massive respect in Africa and internationally that will make him a President the international community will cooperate with instantly.

USA, for example, vacillates between helping or ignoring us over our security challenges because of what they know about whoever is in charge of Nigeria and their peculiar compromise.

It won't be so for Tinubu who is seen universally as a sincere and proven solutions provider.

Finally, no politicans does brilliant and progressive delegation more than Tinubu. Leadership is not Rocket Science but Nigerian Presidents make it appear so because they come into office with vested interests that means they dont deploy round pegs in round holes.

Whatever is going on with BAT, no one can accuse him of reluctance to deploy young and proven technocrats towards effective service provision. Fashola, Ambode and Sanwo-Olu were all young leaders when they became governor of Lagos.

In fact this is why Lagos is head and shoulder above every State in Nigeria today. Tinubu looks for achievers, who will deliver solutions, above everything else.

Tinubu is the only candidate who can begin delivering solutions from his first day in Aso Rock because he is seen as meritorious of the office by even his worst enemies, like Bode George, whereas almost every other candidate will undergo an 'apprenticeship' period Nigeria cannot afford.

Some, like Sowore, will simply not get cooperation from anyone if, by some miracle, he makes it to Aso Rock. We don't need a lame duck President. Armed forces chief will ignore and our NSA will undermine.


There is so much more that makes Tinubu the best candidate by mile but you will only see it if you are a pragmatically intelligent person who knows his own nation, and how it works, very well plus understands that "when in Rome you must behave like a Roman" .

For example, some of you people cannot be serious looking for one President who is not corrupt in a nation of 210 million people who breathe and live corruption in every facet of their private lives.

You have probably engaged in a corrupt act today yet you naively think Jesus Christ in Aso Rock will change the orientation of all Nigerians overnight.

Whereas if your are a pragmatic and critical thinker, focused on solutions, you will know that, for now, Nigeria should look for the man who, fcked up as our system is, has proven he can get results that makes every constituency he handles, i.e Lagos to ACN and APC, exemplary and superior successes.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Donshegxy10(m): 12:32pm On Apr 15, 2022
Tareq1105:


lagosians are not happy with him but he keep winning elections in lagos.

Many people who are singing osinbajo praises now are not doing that because they love osinbajo but to spite tinubu.

We all know that online opinion doesnt always count in politics.

In a matter of weeks , it will be clearer.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Nobody: 12:33pm On Apr 15, 2022
We can note vote for any idiot who has sold their souls to devil...

Blood sucking demons...
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by walefresh3(m): 12:34pm On Apr 15, 2022
Tinubuadvocate:
A total nonsense.

Pure nonsense.. I swear

Osibanjo is our son.. but it is tinubu we want..
Oya kill ya self
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by chibrolex(m): 12:34pm On Apr 15, 2022
pacificom:

Amaechi's popularity is limited in the south-south. He is not a popular candidate in the North and far less popular in the south west.
Amaechi is not popular,Was Yar'adua popular but he became the president vof Nigeria...Una eyes go clear.Amaechi is the next Nigeria President just mark today's date and quote me after the Election.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Donshegxy10(m): 12:35pm On Apr 15, 2022
Fiscus105:



I'm very pleased for your education, and I think you are correct. Meanwhile, the same way Osinbanjo will win on the structure of Buhari.

1.It's only a blind who dnt know for now that Buhari is surporting osinbajo.

2.the same Reps and Senate that cannot say pim" during recent concluded apc elections


Tinubu camp knows that Osinbanjo is fully backed by Buhari and that's why is camp had been jiltery and more reason they are lunching more than normal rockets to the personality of Osinbanjo.

You may agree or disagree, Nigeria president is powerful to do and undo not even during Buhari reign. As it stands now, it will take devine intervention for tinubu to win.

i hope you will come back here to give me credit after the primary because i am 101 sure that buhari will not work for osinbajo presidency.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Etimemy: 12:36pm On Apr 15, 2022
Even APC knows too well that Tinubu doesn't go anywhere
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Donshegxy10(m): 12:39pm On Apr 15, 2022
gaskiyamagana:

Thank you, my brother. I don't know how a political dropout like him will defeat the proprietor Jagaban School of Political Training.

many people dont understand that politics is local, even in ogun state how many senators or reps members does osinbajo know, someone that does not even know his ward chairman.

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Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Integrity1992(m): 12:40pm On Apr 15, 2022
12 signs why Tinubu won’t get APC Presidential ticket

1. The Generals from Alani Akinrinade to TY Danjuma, IBB etc do not want Asiwaju to contest. Akinrinade & Danjuma asked him to withdraw from the race and analysed to him the danger of losing everything if he contested the primaries and lost. General Akinrinade is close to Asiwaju and does not want him to lose face post the election.

2. The Governors told him at the meeting he had with them that they would not support him. They accused him of being obsessed with power. They reminded him of how he snubbed them when they pleaded with him to support Ambode and Obaseki.

3. Afenifere leaders are totally against his presidential ambition. Olu Falae and Baba Fasoranti pointedly told him while Ayo Adebanjo has never hidden his disdain for Asiwaju's presidential ambition.

4. His health challenges are too overwhelming to be ignored. Nigerians want a healthy president who will be available to lead the country out of the woods.

5. Too many faux pas. Since announcing his intention to contest, Asiwaju's campaign has been bogged down with self-inflicted errors through wrong pronouncements from asking people to renew obsolete voter's cards to the threat of violence. People doubt his mental capacity even though he insists he has the capacity to lead.

6. Avoidable rift with NURTW. Tinubu sided with MC Oluomo against the NURTW which has a nationwide reach. Traditionally, Tinubu's camp enjoyed a good rapport with the body during elections. That base is no longer there.

7. The aspirant the stakeholders in the party is considering now a PYO . Asiwaju is not on President Buhari's radar and the President has told close associates he will never hand over power to Tinubu or Atiku because of the concern over greed and corruption. Fayemi and Amosun may also declare their intention any moment from now but once the party decides on consensus to support PYO, they will throw their weight behind him. Fayemi and Amosun's declaration will further enfeeble Asiwaju's ambition. Of course, Fayemi and Amosun would like to win but they realise that their chances may be slim.

8. The general consensus in the South West is that PYO stands a better chance to win at the general election than Asiwaju. Some even believe that Asiwaju himself knows. They therefore cannot understand why he is playing the spoiler role.

9. Almost all members of the Tinubu original power/intellectual base and allies when he was Governor are not in support of his Presidential ambition. Aregbesola, Afikuyomi, Ojudu, Onanuga, Alake, Fasola etc. Most of them may work for PYO.

10. Discerning people have compared Lagos with Dubai in 1999 when Tinubu took over as Governor and has been the power behind the throne since then. There is no basis for comparison between what Dubai has become between 1999 and now and what Lagos has become in the intervening period in spite of the enormous resources of Lagos. They pinned it down to one source: the avarice of Tinubu. They do not see how Nigeria can make the kind of progress the people want with Asiwaju's leadership style. What the country wants and needs is a selfless leader who will work for the best interest of the people.

11. Above all the nation won’t survive a Muslim - Muslim presidency. It is too dangerous to try and Tinubu is insisting on that. It was for this same reason he could not be VP to both Atiku and Buhari at different times. The non acceptance of this is not even from the Christians but from fellow Christians.
12. His greed is believed to have no comparison. Some said it could only be compared to that of Abacha. Recently he moved to an 11 million pounds house in London transferred to him by Madam Deziani in 2016 as payment for protection from the administration which they believed he brought to being. Another luxury apartment owned by the same Deziani and transferred to him has been located in New York and the government of Nigeria has filed actions to recover them.

Gorge Udom.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by chibrolex(m): 12:41pm On Apr 15, 2022
Joylove2324:
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Don't underrate Amaechi..you will surprise what the outcome of the Election would be. Amaechi started his consultations from the Emirs instead of the Governors and the legislators..the governors knows who the next president is. In politics you will get an answer without a formula unlike mathematics where the formula must be followed to arrive to the answer..Mark today's date and quote me after the election.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by LillyandDaisy: 12:41pm On Apr 15, 2022
Dsalvo:


Bruv, what greed? Tinubu just has huge self-belief that is predicated on a solid history of spectacular achievement over many decades.

Is that not what you should want in a President? We all have constituencies in life be it our family, local mens club or evenour business/job function.

Just show me one constituency Tinubu has failed. Spectacular success in the provate sector. Universally lauded success as Lagos Governor. Incredible work, through ACN, to rout PDP in the SW and make the Party the majority in the SW.

A feat no other could achieve against PDP with the likes of inferior weaklings like Obi even abandoning APGA to flee to PDP whem he realized he is a follower rather than leader like BAT.

Shall we then talk of what BAT did with APC when PDP, through Ogbulafor, had bragged it would rule Nigeria for 60 years?

Some of you are just biased that is why you use totally incongrous words, like "greediness" to malign Tinub when you should just confess you hate him.

It is crime for someone with Tinubus spectacular vision and axhievement to never lead Nigeria. We are all still suffering today from how forces of regression were allowed to frustrate Awolowo.

I will personally do my best to ensure Tinubu becomes President of Nigeria because it is history repeating itself with enemies of progress trying to win, again, so we remain a basket case Nation despite our huge potentials.
Nice explanation, but what should we call it if not ‘greed’ why will a king maker want to become a king?
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by MikoB: 12:41pm On Apr 15, 2022
Fiscus105:



I'm very pleased for your education, and I think you are correct. Meanwhile, the same way Osinbanjo will win on the structure of Buhari.

1.It's only a blind who dnt know for now that Buhari is surporting osinbajo.

2.the same Reps and Senate that cannot say pim" during recent concluded apc elections


Tinubu camp knows that Osinbanjo is fully backed by Buhari and that's why is camp had been jiltery and more reason they are lunching more than normal rockets to the personality of Osinbanjo.

You may agree or disagree, Nigeria president is powerful to do and undo not even during Buhari reign. As it stands now, it will take devine intervention for tinubu to win.

You are very correct! Come to think of it, how can a VP summons, the governors, Senators and the reps for a meeting, without buhari's approval? The stystem of the presidential primary coming up will be different from the chairmanship convention, the presidential will be the photocopy and repeat of 2014 primaries which brought buhari, it will look clean and clear but the power that be would have given instructions. That's my take
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by seunayantokun(m): 12:46pm On Apr 15, 2022
jyz200:
Interesting
But Vp Bleep up for contesting against Jagaban

The law of power you put under your comment is a not universal and all-time truth. The story of David and Saul in the Bible is my example, though there are also many past and contemporary ones.

David outshone his master, Saul. The latter did all he could to kill him but failed. The time of that trouble was the time of David's increase in power. In fact, he even had two opportunities to kill his master who was hunting for him all over the place but did not.

So, if God has given you the grace to outshine your master, do so with humility and recognition of the fact that God has used him to lift you up but make sure you outshine him, that's your time for power - you may never have it again.

Therefore, the true law is: Don't shy away from outshining your master once there are all indications the time is ripe for it otherwise, you will become a wasted destiny.

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Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Olutopes: 12:48pm On Apr 15, 2022
Hnnnm
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Tareq1105: 12:48pm On Apr 15, 2022
haslaw:


Exactly my thoughts..

Besides, El-Rufai played the Muslim-Muslim ticket and it worked for him

Cc:. NainaCowFarm

You're very funny and you just made me laugh in isoko language.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by Olutopes: 12:49pm On Apr 15, 2022
Amechi nko
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by AsawanaDgreat: 12:52pm On Apr 15, 2022
Say yes to Osinbajo and no to Tinubu

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Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by seunjungle1(m): 12:54pm On Apr 15, 2022
This stvpid writer is here again to write his unhealthy and baseless opinion.
You wrote this your stvpid opinion in year 2014&2019 about Buhari, now you're here again.
All you points here are very weak and not reasonable
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by sniperr007(m): 12:54pm On Apr 15, 2022
Iyadesa:
It's seems we are underating the Likes of Ameachi here

Yes, including Yahaya Bello, Tunde Bakare etc.

Although those people will likely just share either Tinubu or osibanjo vote.
Re: Why Tinubu Will Lose To Osinbajo In APC Primaries by porthouse7(f): 12:55pm On Apr 15, 2022
NaijaCowFarm:
Leadership is not a popularity contest - Adams Oshomole

It is not arguable that Tinubu has a very large political structure. It is also not arguable that Tinubu can defeat Osinbajo in an Open Ballot system, but APC primaries are not going to be an open ballot system where people queue behind their candidates, rather it is going to be an Open-Secret Ballot system. In an open-ballot system, once I vote against you, you know, so I will be reluctant to vote another after assuring you or collecting your money. However, in an Open-Secret ballot, I can assure you that I will vote for you, collect your money yet vote my "heart".

Now on the day of the APC primaries, these are the facts that would be very clear:

Tinubu is too old to govern effectively: With the hindsight of Buhari's challenges, APC would rather go for a younger and much healthier candidate than an old and sick Tinubu. This is a clear advantage that Osinbajo would have. Most of the delegates would be easily swayed towards Osinbajo right inside the ballot cage, where they would thumb-print their ballot, fold it and come out openly to cast it in the ballot box. Mark you, it is going to be the same ballot box for all candidates, so you cannot know who was voted until the ballots are sorted and counted.

Tinubu's bad faith towards Ambode: The bad deed that Tinubu did to Ambode is still fresh in the minds of the governors, both single-term and second-term governors. it is on record that the governors overwhelmingly rejected the direct primaries simply because Tinubu and his men in NASS arranged to have them treated like Ambode. moreso, it was reported that the APC governor's forum led by Atiku Bagudu (who is still in charge by the way), went to Tinubu's residence in Abuja to beg and prostrate to the Jagaban to allow Ambode to complete his tenure, but baba shuns them. Now, he is running after the same Bagudu, even going to the Kebbi Lodge to beg then. They are sure to require their pound of flesh on behalf of Ambode.

Religious sentiments: Since 2015 Nigeria has been governed by a Muslim, Muhammadu Buhari. If another Muslim from the South takes over from Buhari in 2023, the Muslims would have had another 8 years, making a total of 16. Now when power returns to the North, obviously another Muslim would take over for another 8 years. In total, the Muslims would be president from 2015 - to 2039, a whopping 24 uninterrupted years. That is NOT FEASIBLE. Hence, rational as the delegates are, they would avoid such a trap that would easily hand power back to the PDP. The delegates would rather vote for Osinbajo than Tinubu.

Running mate wahahala: We all recall the challenges that Buhari faced in choosing a running mate in 2015. Buhari was under pressure to avoid the Muslim-Muslim ticket in 2015, even with over 10 million Northern votes in the kitty. Tells that with a Tinubu's candidacy, it would be tougher for APC. Firstly, Tinubu does not have the cult following that Buhari commanded in 2015. Secondly, the North would never accept a Northern Christian VP, this is an unwritten law. Adopting such would mean FAILURE in the North. Hence the only option that Tinubu would have is a Muslim-Muslim ticket, which would FAIL woefully at elections. Even APC NEC would advise against such a move. The obvious alternative would be Osinbajo.

Unaccounted Baggages: Accountability is the acceptance of responsibility for one's own actions. It implies a willingness to be transparent, allowing others to observe and evaluate one's performance. Integrity is the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles; moral uprightness. Measured on these two words, Osinbajo would beat Tinubu by a clear distance. Firstly, Tinubu has held Lagos to a stranglehold for the past 23 years. He has made sure that his son controls all the key revenue-generating sectors of the state, the numerous toll gates, etc. His daughter controls all the markets in Lagos, his son-in-law is in NASS, and his wife is a senator for life, he receives 10% tithes from Lagos State. These are baggages that Nigeria's state cannot accommodate. Even now, he has closed NURTW in Lagos and handed it over to his cronies. Is this the type of person that Nigeria wants to give power over the nation and national treasury and power?
Responsible delegates would avoid such a person because, when push goes to shove, Nigerians would be better off without such baggages. Hence the Osinbajo appeal would suffice.

Academic and foundational credence: Tinubu's state of origin, early education, age, and birth are all mysteries. Noone knows where he is from. Noone knows his father, no one knows where he got his first school leaving certificate nor his high school certificate nor diploma. All we hear is that he graduated from some University in the USA. There are those that say that his daughter is 61 years old while Tinubu is claiming 70 years old. That is a mystery too many to be overlooked. Hence Osinbajo would come as a sterling candidate to sell rather than a Tunubu with these baggages of unexplained mysteries.

Conclusion: Osinbajo would trounce Tinubu in APC primaries. However, APC may not form the next government, no matter who they field!
so long osinbajo is also Yoruba we don't care

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