Kobojunkie:
My views are those of Jesus Christ Himself as presented right there in scripture actually. I take Jesus Christ at His Word and that is how the writers of scriptures meant for us to approach these things.

Okay just that you disagree with many Christians on this forum as I have come to notice.

AmazonTopaz:
Okay just that you disagree with many Christians on this forum as I have come to notice.

AmazonTopaz:
Lol, the same occultism and so-called socery that we have been reading in books as old as time but we were brought up to believe that they are bad what some of these movies depict is that these powers are not bad but it is how you use them that is so how is it a problem?

Also, these are about creativity and wild imaginations as a child I wasn't stupid and I know that these were all fiction and a work of art something sorry to say many Nigerians don't like to explore in their movies which is why Hollywood continues to beat you.

All these societal problems rife in the society like money rituals, armed robbery, kidnapping, occultism and co were not found in marvel but in Nollywood but truly it is Doctor strange that negatively impacted these people to be doing these atrocious acts to believe that you make money by killing people.

Some people should learn how to differentiate fiction from reality and stop being paranoid left to these people we should still be doing the inquisition and burning witches as it was done in ancient times lol.

I don't want to bring down anybody's work but truth be told mount zion movies are also filled with witches and wizards that I would not even advise kids to watch so that they don't develop nightmares over them. We believe that those movies are good and tell the work of God but we choose not to expand our horizons and see the creative imaginations and works of art because of religion.

So it is bad to watch movies about sorcery because we were told it is wrong when it is even arguable that these folklores like magic, witches, wizards, vampires, demons etc are all lies/allegory that are also a figment of our imagination.

One clear point he is missing is that in many of these movies they always emphasize the theme that good will always triumph over evil name one movie where evil ever triumphed over good I will like to know.

And fantasies are one of my favourite Genres in movies, films and books.

You're right oh. Some of their movies made me terrified as a child. I can't even deal!!!

But then again, African parents will see everything wrong in Harry Potter and a host of other fantasy movies because To God be the glory wasn't added at the end of the movie.

The real irony is that for the most part witchcraft and wizardry in the Nigerian context is straight up ridiculous.

All these stories or someone from village holding a person's destiny. Or a person's child being the cause of their poverty.

The whole point of selling your soul to the devil is for worldly gains. Why would I have a pact with Satan, live in poverty and then work to put my relatives on poverty?

So i suffer on this earth and then go and suffer in the afterlife as well?
What is the sense in that?

We should be careful sha. Before we go full Helen wetin call and start torturing child witches

Magnoliaa:


Ehen, Ishi. I remember you shared one article on Nollywood and money rituals like that one time. People were saying NW is the cause, but the write-up claims NW is just a mirror and something.

Don't you think the same applies to HW?

I'm respect to this article, no it isn't.

Magnoliaa:


You make so much sense, Kobo. And I find how you present biblical truths refreshing! Away from all we've been taught and grown up with. For the most part, I do not get why people 'attack' you so much.

I am sure if the modern days Christians we have now were present during Job's era, they would have called God Himself anti-christ.

I mean, the same God gave Satan the go-ahead to inflict pain on Job and cause him troubles.

The same Kobo that claims God put a curse on the institution of marriage? Lol. Maggie, be careful the kind of 'teachers' you admire, especially on the internet.

GloriousGbola:
1. All these stories or someone from village holding a person's destiny. Or a person's child being the cause of their poverty. The whole point of selling your soul to the devil is for worldly gains. Why would I have a pact with Satan, live in poverty and then work to put my relatives on poverty?

1. Every one of those beliefs, including the belief the one can sell his/her soul to the devil, comes, not from Christian Scripture, but straight from the mouths of babalawos, native priests and pagan worshippers. Nothing in scripture hints at any of it being true yet you find so-called Christians proclaiming them as truths and claiming they have power to fight them, only it seems that war remains an ever loosing battle for them.

Ishilove:

The same Kobo that claims God put a curse on marriage? Lol. Maggie, be careful the kind of 'teachers' you admire, especially on the internet.

And I am challenging you even now to prove me wrong.

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There is nothing like holy matrimony this since that which has been cursed by God Himself is rendered unholy by virtue of His judgment against it.

Marriage, according to Genesis 2 vs 24 is simply an agreement between a man and woman to become husband and wife(marriage). The very same husband and wife on whom the curse in Genesis 3 vs 16 is placed on by God..

You(wife) will want your husband very much,
    but he(husband) will rule over you(wife).” - Genesis 3 vs 16b

Implicated are the very same husband and wife(one) that is a marriage.

God didn't place that curse on single women or single men, but on men and women in marriage(husband and wife) .I.e. on marriage itself.

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In the very same context of Genesis 3 vs 16, God also placed a curse on woman(irrespective of marital status) in child pregnancy and childbirth. Yes, the same God who commanded, "Be fruitful and multiply" in Genesis 1 vs 28, in Genesis 3 vs 16a cursed childbearing, so that every child born into this world is born via God's curse.

16 Then God said to the woman,
“I will cause you to have much trouble when you are pregnant. And when you give birth to children, you will have much pain.... - Genesis 3 vs 16a

Can that which is born of God's curse be of God's blessing?

I ask this of those who say things like, "Children are a blessing from God". This is not to suggest that children are evil. It is simply to get one to carefully consider what they hear and accept as being from God because we tend to tell ourselves a lot of lies about God and the things of God.

Ishilove:

Nope, none.

I am more concerned about Nollywood tho and their sex scenes
Indecent display of indecency even in family films

Lol this made me laugh happy Easter

folake4u:


You're right oh. Some of their movies made me terrified as a child. I can't even deal!!!

But then again, African parents will see everything wrong in Harry Potter and a host of other fantasy movies because To God be the glory wasn't added at the end of the movie.

Ishilove:

Wisdom and truth. Hollywood is glorifying and glamourising homosexuality, witchcraft, sorcery and occultism, and we are becoming more accepting of them.

Are you serious? Africans are even doing worse while acting all holy. They criticise homosexuals, but they kill other humans for rituals.

Wetin this man dey yarn self?

Ishilove:

Wisdom and truth. Hollywood is glorifying and glamourising homosexuality, witchcraft, sorcery and occultism, and we are becoming more accepting of them.

Witchcraft and soccery are norms of the world. Technology is also witchcraft

We are our own issues in Africa
The movies did nothing to us except our own black, wicked, selfish and greed

If we can be creative in our lives and focus on developing our lots we would create more Hollywood instead of criticizing it

Religious beliefs that destroys creativity

Acient Demonism is in our screen... Playing with our minds. God help us

Crizzycross:
Ok

Funny.... What about
Ironman
Thor
Spiderman
Hulk
All of them posses powers to do good or evil
This case can't hold water all the characters there are good
and sometimes evil just like us in real life.

Saxxon:
Mad people! So we should leave very well produced movies and watch your daddy and Mommy instead? Who are you to tell us what superstitions to believe in? Afterall, na still the same witches and wizards your mama and papa dey act for film, only that theirs is poorly produced. Lalasticlala Seun Mynd44 come help me see tori

You obviously didn't read before commenting

Ishilove:
I was on Twitter when I saw 'Mount Zion' was trending. I thought the company had produced another movie, but alas it was something totally different. Joshua Bamiloye, one of the sons of Evangelist Mike Bamiloye, founder of Mount Zion faith Ministries and Mount Zion Television shared a series of thought provoking tweets about the increasingly dark and dubious content in movies, specifically Marvel movies that resonated with me because of the undiluted truth it contains for Christians.

If your attention span is a tweet long, this thread is not for you.


https://twitter.com/jay_mikee/status/1514949022309654528

Eating from the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil will continue to produce more currupt humans against the wish of the creator God Almighty.

Summary: whatch what you consume, including movies you watch. It has large influence on destinies. Guard your heart dilligently.... Proverbs 4:23

Wetin Unwana no go see for stream.

Kobojunkie:
What undiluted truth for what Christians?

Nigerian Christianity is nothing different from Paganism abeg.... so una dey fear ordinary marvel movies . Na wa oo!

Lol this Kobo sha

These days I hardly get agitated about your posts anymore since realising you are an eccentric fellow.

True dat, Nigerian form of Christianity is very laughable. I have been saying and will keep repeating it: Over 90% of Nigerian pastors are fake and just in it for the wealth and other goodies like free women they get etc.

Ishilove:

Wisdom and truth. Hollywood is glorifying and glamourising homosexuality, witchcraft, sorcery and occultism, and we are becoming more accepting of them.

Clown, i have never heard of ritual killing in the west. Maybe is nollywood we need to ban with their backward thinking.
Someone that watch mostly think is sci-fi, but nollywood viewers believe in ritual killings


Modified: I rather watch super hero film than mount zion anyway

Yes true, but nothing beats marvel and Disney. When I have children, I would extremely limit and screen what they watch by watching it myself before giving them the go ahead. Thank God I love cartoons. Theses days, children cartoons are filled with sexual content, nudity and stuff laidat.

Ishilove:

Wisdom and truth. Hollywood is glorifying and glamourising homosexuality, witchcraft, sorcery and occultism, and we are becoming more accepting of them.

And Nollywood is glorifying
Sango, Amadioha, Ritual killings

Ishilove:

Wisdom and truth. Hollywood is glorifying and glamourising homosexuality, witchcraft, sorcery and occultism, and we are becoming more accepting of them.

That introduction of LGBT into Superman and Deadpool seriously irritated me! Don't even get me started on that gay character in Peacemaker!

Ishilove:

Nope. Never seen them. I've never been able to get myself to watch any Harry Potter movie because my spirit rejected it from the very beginning. I cannot watch a movie that glamourises witchcraft in any form.

And for those bringing Mount Zion to this, the difference here is Mount Zion presents the negative supernatural as it is; it doesn't tell me there are good witches and there are bad witches. Witchcraft is witchcraft.

Mind you, I know where to draw the line with fantasy, but please, I will not accept the subtle mind conditioning to accept the glamourisation of occultism that many of these movies seem to be doing.

Yeah... I agree with the subliminal mind fvck going on in Hollywood. It is so blatant and laughable to me.

However, I love art, great art at that! These movies in question are amazingly artistic and beautiful! I love them!

I sincerely can't wait to see: Dr. Strange: In the Multiverse of Madness

Moon knight is so stupid and cliched! There is no hope for that series!

In all, we need to educate ourselves and our kids better at guarding their minds and imaginations. Too much indoctrination out there!

They arrange the movie to be acceptable, like juice with a little poison inside..