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Re: 2023 Presidency: SWAGA Says No To APC Consensus Candidacy by Heavensent01(m): 9:29pm On Apr 29, 2022
Gozac:
Immediately SW leaves APC, SS and SE will fill their void
you're naive, southeast will only queue behind apga and PDP even if PDP won't go for any Southeast candidate them go still vote PDP, those clowns na one way thinking, they're only useful during party primary
Re: 2023 Presidency: SWAGA Says No To APC Consensus Candidacy by Ebubu: 9:29pm On Apr 29, 2022
diplomat058:
[s]You are actually the one saying rubbish.

NCNC? Lol. NCNC was founded nurtured by a Yoruba liberal, Herbert Macaulay. He led the party to win elections ND clear the legislative seats in Lagos from 1922 when the first elections were first held till he died in the 30s or so. Before he died, he handed over the party to Azikiwe on his death bed. Where do you think NCNC got the impetus to try to form Western Regional Government?

Alex Ekwueme and PDP? It's like saying the fact that Rochas Okorocha and Ogbonaya Onu are founding members of the APC makes them core contributors to the party's success. That would be self-foolery, right? I just need to clear fantasies from facts in your ignorance-laden comment

Hahaha[/s]
Macaulay’s contribution to NCNC in its founding stage were all dwarfed by the contributions of Zik to the same party.


There is a reason as to why in the annals of our history, when NCNC is mentioned Zik is remembered and it’s averagely taken as a Zik party and its followers called Zikites and not Macaulayers. Zik made NCNC what it truly was; a widespread nationalistic party for all Nigerians and the people of Southern Cameroons because NCNC was not winning elections outside Western Region in the the young days of Macaulay.

NCNC success was due to the political sagacity, political prowess and acumen of Zik. That is why he takes all the glory including the NCNC rumblings with the colonial governments.

This is a perfect reply to you and Osaze007, Pakute and other dullards!

Rubbish that, and also attempt mocking yourself in demystifying Ekwueme who led the G34 that formed PDP in 1998.


Get your facts right

Tinubu will contest, and will lose, and absolutely nothing will happen. He is not greater than Abiola who was not allowed to rule Nigeria.

Nigeria is bigger than Tinubu and y’all should accept that in peace or you’ll be forced to
Re: 2023 Presidency: SWAGA Says No To APC Consensus Candidacy by Heavensent01(m): 9:30pm On Apr 29, 2022
lexy2014:
Pls where is Tinubu popular? Popular among who?

If u say he is that popular, why can't he decamp & seek his ticket in another party?

If u say "money is there", where did the money come from? If he spends the money and wins, how will he recoup? Is it from the national treasury the same way he is fleecing Lagos?
why can't your papa leave the house he built and move to rented house, that's if he had house


please reread this your comparative jargons when your mental provider is available because I can't even relate



you this dumbass just full politics section. Ode
Re: 2023 Presidency: SWAGA Says No To APC Consensus Candidacy by lexy2014: 9:34pm On Apr 29, 2022
Heavensent01:
why can't your papa leave the house he built and move to rented house, that's if he had house


please reread this your comparative jargons when your mental provider is available because I can't even relate



you this dumbass just full politics section. Ode
Spilling your emotions like a ruptured crude oil pipeline didn't answer my questions:

Pls where is Tinubu popular? Popular among who?

If u say he is that popular, why can't he decamp & seek his ticket in another party?

If u say "money is there", where did the money come from? If he spends the money and wins, how will he recoup? Is it from the national treasury the same way he is fleecing Lagos?
Re: 2023 Presidency: SWAGA Says No To APC Consensus Candidacy by Heavensent01(m): 9:37pm On Apr 29, 2022
lexy2014:
Spilling your emotions like a ruptured crude oil pipeline didn't answer my questions:

Pls where is Tinubu popular? Popular among who?

If u say he is that popular, why can't he decamp & seek his ticket in another party?

If u say "money is there", where did the money come from? If he spends the money and wins, how will he recoup? Is it from the national treasury the same way he is fleecing Lagos?
someone should leave the party he built with others to prove what exactly?



how to prove popularity is just going to the field for delegates then show what you gat, anyway I dont expect you to be reasoning far with your 14th century IQ


arguing with your likes can affect one psyche first, psycho people full here
Re: 2023 Presidency: SWAGA Says No To APC Consensus Candidacy by lexy2014: 9:39pm On Apr 29, 2022
Heavensent01:
someone should leave the party he built with others to prove what exactly?



how to prove popularity is just going to the field for delegates then show what you gat, anyway I dont expect you to be reasoning far with your 14th century IQ


arguing with your likes can affect one psyche first, psycho people full here
Can u point out the argument u referring to? So with your 23 century IQ, u don't no the difference between argument & questions? Pls use your superior IQ to answer the simple questions:

Pls where is Tinubu popular? Popular among who?

If u say he is that popular, why can't he decamp & seek his ticket in another party?

If u say "money is there", where did the money come from? If he spends the money and wins, how will he recoup? Is it from the national treasury the same way he is fleecing Lagos?
Re: 2023 Presidency: SWAGA Says No To APC Consensus Candidacy by Heavensent01(m): 9:42pm On Apr 29, 2022
lexy2014:
Can u point out the argument u referring to? So with your 23 century IQ, u don't no the difference between argument & questions? Pls use your superior IQ to answer the simple questions:

Pls where is Tinubu popular? Popular among who?

If u say he is that popular, why can't he decamp & seek his ticket in another party?

If u say "money is there", where did the money come from? If he spends the money and wins, how will he recoup? Is it from the national treasury the same way he is fleecing Lagos?
google is your friend or ask the man you share your dumb gene with
Re: 2023 Presidency: SWAGA Says No To APC Consensus Candidacy by Abbeytoy(m): 9:43pm On Apr 29, 2022
Some people intentionally scope Osinbajo to contest ni, if no... It's a walk over for Tinubu in APC
Re: 2023 Presidency: SWAGA Says No To APC Consensus Candidacy by Ebubu: 9:46pm On Apr 29, 2022
Emperor863 go and tell your trash in your village square
Re: 2023 Presidency: SWAGA Says No To APC Consensus Candidacy by badoh(m): 9:49pm On Apr 29, 2022
Xscape1993:
We don't need old creature as president again. The pains of the 2015 deadly political mistake are still much with us. We can not repeat the same mistake come 2023. What is even wrong with majority of black people? Must he rule? Is it a do or die affair thing?
The fact is why is buhari also afraid of adopting indirect primaries and wants to short changed other candidates. He knows Tinubu will beat him to it reason why he's looking for every means to use consensus option. A whole president having machinery of govt afraid of Tinubu. Tinubu is not even saying you should support him but just provide a level playing ground for the primaries. Didn't buhari pass through the same indirect primaries in 2015 before he became the part flag bearer. I see buhari as an ingrate who forgot that without the support of some people, he wouldn't have become president today.
Re: 2023 Presidency: SWAGA Says No To APC Consensus Candidacy by Pakute: 9:56pm On Apr 29, 2022
Ebubu:
Macaulay’s contribution to NCNC in its founding stage were all dwarfed by the contributions of Zik to the same party.


There is a reason as to why in the annals of our history, when NCNC is mentioned Zik is remembered and it’s averagely taken as a Zik party and its followers called Zikites and not Macaulayers. Zik made NCNC what it truly was; a widespread nationalistic party for all Nigerians and the people of Southern Cameroons because NCNC was not winning elections outside Western Region in the the young days of Macaulay.

NCNC success was due to the political sagacity, political prowess and acumen of Zik. That is why he takes all the glory including the NCNC rumblings with the colonial governments.

This is a perfect reply to you and Osaze007, Pak..ute and other dullards!

Rubbish that, and also attempt mocking yourself in demystifying Ekwueme who led the G34 that formed PDP in 1998.


Get your facts right

Tinubu will contest, and will lose, and absolutely nothing will happen. He is not greater than Abiola who was not allowed to rule Nigeria.

Nigeria is bigger than Tinubu and y’all should accept that in peace or you’ll be forced to
Lol.. My guy don dey change mouth. Lying and boasting in lies comes so naturally to you until your flàtheads are flogged with facts.
The only contribution of Azikiwe to the party was to convert the party into ibo dominated party and that's exactly the typical mentality of ibos. You want to always walk in and reap so easily where others had worked so hard to build.
Re: 2023 Presidency: SWAGA Says No To APC Consensus Candidacy by Osaze007: 9:59pm On Apr 29, 2022
Heavensent01:
you're too slow and I have no reason to be going details with an empty head like you, religion and ethnicity hold Nigeria politics, no matter the cry that won't stop



igbo want peter obi just because of igbo are marginalized not because of competence, so what idiotic things are u dumb specimen proving
Why won’t there be division between Fulani Muslim and Yoruba Muslim who Ads about to dump Tinubu but instead it’s Yoruba non Muslims your threatning

Anyways I trust Yoruba Christians have the capacity to defend themselves against any yoro jihadist
Re: 2023 Presidency: SWAGA Says No To APC Consensus Candidacy by Ebubu: 10:02pm On Apr 29, 2022
Pakute:
Lol.. My guy don dey change mouth. Lying and boasting in lies comes so naturally to you until your flàtheads are flogged with facts.
The only contribution of Azikiwe to the party was to convert the party into ibo party and that's exactly the typical mentality of ibos. You want to always walk in and reap so easily where others had worked so hard to build.
Oga did NCNC rise to the pinnacle of its political power and spread under the leadership of Macaulay or Zik ?

And moreover, it was not solely founded by Macaulay as Zik was there during its foundation and that was how he was able to become its pioneer Secretary.

So stop making it sound as if Zik was not a co-founder of NCNC together with Herbert.
Re: 2023 Presidency: SWAGA Says No To APC Consensus Candidacy by diplomat058(m): 10:03pm On Apr 29, 2022
Ebubu:
Macaulay’s contribution to NCNC in its founding stage were all dwarfed by the contributions of Zik to the same party.


There is a reason as to why in the annals of our history, when NCNC is mentioned Zik is remembered and it’s averagely taken as a Zik party and its followers called Zikites and not Macaulayers. Zik made NCNC what it truly was; a widespread nationalistic party for all Nigerians and the people of Southern Cameroons because NCNC was not winning elections outside Western Region in the the young days of Macaulay.

NCNC success was due to the political sagacity, political prowess and acumen of Zik. That is why he takes all the glory including the NCNC rumblings with the colonial governments.

This is a perfect reply to you and Osaze007, Pakute and other dullards!

Rubbish that, and also attempt mocking yourself in demystifying Ekwueme who led the G34 that formed PDP in 1998.


Get your facts right

Tinubu will contest, and will lose, and absolutely nothing will happen. He is not greater than Abiola who was not allowed to rule Nigeria.

Nigeria is bigger than Tinubu and y’all should accept that in peace or you’ll be forced to
You are not just ignorant but foolish as well. What's my business with Tinubu or whoever? Everything you wrote is only, as a matter if substance, damage control plied to cover up your exposed ignorance

You even say they don't recognize Hebert Macaulay. Lol. I wonder what you smoked. The same Hebert Macaulay that is widely credited with party nationalism and facilitated the NCNC emerging victorious in the elections of 1923 and 1928 and 1933? A Yorùbá man labored and built a successful foundation, making history and you think you can just crawled out if nowhere to claim the glory for your kinsman? Something must be wrong with you tho

If Hebert Macaulay did not build the NCNC into a successful political brand and helped Zik's career by appointing him as secretary, where would he have seen the structure to contest elections with AG in the Western Region?

You even said APC is the first Yorùbá party. Hahaha. Was it Azikiwe that built then Action Group too? What about Awolowo's UPN that contested the 1979 and 1983 elections and was largely successful? Same NCNC that Macaulay suffered for it to be a nationalist party and Zik later turned it to be dominant only in the East? So much for the so called building

You should know when to keep your mouth shut and learn when you don't have anything upstairs.
Re: 2023 Presidency: SWAGA Says No To APC Consensus Candidacy by Ebubu: 10:07pm On Apr 29, 2022
diplomat058:
You are not just ignorant but foolish as well. What's my business with Tinubu or whoever? Everything you wrote is only, as a matter if substance, damage control plied to cover up your exposed ignorance

You even say they don't recognize Hebert Macaulay. Lol. I wonder what you smoked. The same Hebert Macaulay that is widely credited with party nationalism and facilitated the NCNC emerging victorious in the elections of 1923 and 1928 and 1933? A Yorùbá man labored and built a successful foundation, making history and you think you can just crawled out if nowhere to claim the glory for your kinsman? Something must be wrong with you tho

If Hebert Macaulay did not build the NCNC into a successful political brand and helped Zik's career by appointing him as secretary, where would he have seen the structure to contest elections with AG in the Western Region?

You even said APC is the first Yorùbá party. Hahaha. Was it Azikiwe that built then Action Group too? What about Awolowo's UPN that contested the 1979 and 1983 elections and was largely successful? Same NCNC that Macaulay suffered for it to be a nationalist party and Zik later turned it to be dominant only in the East? So much for the so called building

You should know when to keep your mouth shut and learn when you don't have anything upstairs.
Oga Macaulay is not recognized and given due prestige today in Nigeria.

Zik dwarfed him. Know this and know peace.
Re: 2023 Presidency: SWAGA Says No To APC Consensus Candidacy by Heavensent01(m): 10:08pm On Apr 29, 2022
Osaze007:
Why won’t there be division between Fulani Muslim and Yoruba Muslim who Ads about to dump Tinubu but instead it’s Yoruba non Muslims your threatning

Anyways I trust Yoruba Christians have the capacity to defend themselves against any yoro jihadist
A for apple


B for ball


I'm thinking how this jargons will give Pthief obi PDP ticket
Re: 2023 Presidency: SWAGA Says No To APC Consensus Candidacy by Pakute: 10:11pm On Apr 29, 2022
Ebubu:
Oga did NCNC rise to the pinnacle of its political power and spread under the leadership of Macaulay or Zik ?

And moreover, it was not solely founded by Macaulay as Zik was there during its foundation and that was how he was able to become its pioneer Secretary.

So stop making it sound as if Zik was not a co-founder of NCNC together with Herbert.
You're obviously a kid and I'd advise you to have a grasp of whatever you might have to say on a public forum so as to not make a fool of yourself the next time.
NCNC was founded in 1944, Macaulay died in 1946. The first election NCNC participated came in 1951, 5 years after the death of Macaulay. Do you expect Macaulay wake up and mobilize victory for his party from the grave?. It was therefore the responsibility of Zik being the President of the party to deliver.
Re: 2023 Presidency: SWAGA Says No To APC Consensus Candidacy by diplomat058(m): 10:14pm On Apr 29, 2022
Ebubu:
Oga Macaulay is not recognized and given due prestige today in Nigeria.

Zik dwarfed him. Know this and know peace.
Balderdash! Read and learn!
Re: 2023 Presidency: SWAGA Says No To APC Consensus Candidacy by Ebubu: 10:24pm On Apr 29, 2022
diplomat058:
Balderdash! Read and learn!
Fûck off mr I’m not interested in your rubbish falsehood
Re: 2023 Presidency: SWAGA Says No To APC Consensus Candidacy by Osaze007: 10:24pm On Apr 29, 2022
Heavensent01:
A for apple


B for ball


I'm thinking how this jargons will give Pthief obi PDP ticket
Fooolani slave you can threaten your own kith but will keep mum in face of humiliation by Fulani Moslem
Re: 2023 Presidency: SWAGA Says No To APC Consensus Candidacy by Ebubu: 10:25pm On Apr 29, 2022
Pakute:
You're obviously a kid and I'd advise you to have a grasp of whatever you might have to say on a public forum so as to not make a fool of yourself the next time.
NCNC was founded in 1944, Macaulay died in 1946. The first election NCNC participated came in 1951, 5 years after the death of Macaulay. Do you expect Macaulay wake up and mobilize victory for his party from the grave?. It was therefore the responsibility of Zik being the President of the party to deliver.
The fact still remains that an Igbo man nurtured a dominant party in the first republic which won the highest number of seats in the country at then.


So the claims of the original poster whom I quoted that Igbos are poor in politics, is demystified.
Re: 2023 Presidency: SWAGA Says No To APC Consensus Candidacy by Ebubu: 10:27pm On Apr 29, 2022
diplomat058:
Balderdash! Read and learn!
abi na Macaulay dey 500 naira note and named after national airport abuja

Mumu man
Re: 2023 Presidency: SWAGA Says No To APC Consensus Candidacy by Pakute: 10:31pm On Apr 29, 2022
Ebubu:
The fact still remains that an Igbo man nurtured a dominant party in the first republic which won the highest number of seats in the country at then.


So the claims of the original poster whom I quoted that Igbos are poor in politics, is demystified.
Another man's party.. abeg shift.
Nuture APGA make we see.
Re: 2023 Presidency: SWAGA Says No To APC Consensus Candidacy by Sunnyja: 10:33pm On Apr 29, 2022
abiodunalabama:
Why must someone come through the back door why not allowed contest in level play ground at least we in democary consensus is not democratic .
What is the back door here? Consensus is in APC 's Constitution.
Re: 2023 Presidency: SWAGA Says No To APC Consensus Candidacy by Ebubu: 10:33pm On Apr 29, 2022
Pakute:
Another man's party.. abeg shift.
Nuture APGA make we see.
so party is now owned by one man?
Re: 2023 Presidency: SWAGA Says No To APC Consensus Candidacy by jaxxy(m): 11:04pm On Apr 29, 2022
Dsalvo:
Seems to me you're the one crying. Stakeholders are merely reminding those who feel the Party now belongs to them alone to toe the path of equity and fairness.

Whereas you are a nobody always obsessed with the affairs of the APC when your actually a PDP-worshipping IPOBian.

Every tried minding your business?
Buhari has the final say and if its consensus nothing will happen.
Re: 2023 Presidency: SWAGA Says No To APC Consensus Candidacy by ityP(m): 11:10pm On Apr 29, 2022
Mynd44:
Actually consensus candidacy is only possible if all the aspirants step down for that aspirant.

If as much as 1 of the cleared candidates say no, a primary must be held.

The arguenent of Tinubu's camp has always been that every candidate should go to the field and test their popularity amongst the party delegates instead of asking others to step down.

As it seems, a lot of candidates have been relying on a consensus led by the president as they know they can't excel in the primary election which is why we lots of aspirants are taking by force pictures with Buhari.
You don't understand consensus. Go back to the convention that was held. Even those that said they will not gree on stage, elections weren't conducted. Till today, DOlusegun still dey cry say dem cheat am. But dude can't say anything.
Re: 2023 Presidency: SWAGA Says No To APC Consensus Candidacy by Nobody: 11:28pm On Apr 29, 2022
Ebubu:
angry

Nothing Tinubu no go see for where consensus dey


Tinubu should know that by law, direct primary is not the only recognized election. And that consensus is constitutional. So he should relax.


Consensus no favor am and na e dem want use.
Yeye! The Party's new constitution has even erased Consensus as an option. My guy, stop giving yourself false hopes. We will go to the field and see who owns the minds of the delegates.
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