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Re: The Guardian View On Putin’s Nuclear Threats Russia Is Losing In Ukraine by Krismas(m): 5:02pm On May 01, 2022
GardenOfGod:
In their analytical expository presentation, they made reference to individuals who are well placed in the said theatre of war, names that you can't refute.
I challenge you to counter their scholarly submission with a more evidential hypothesis as regard the subject matter.
My preparedness to await your response as soon as you are notified of my concerns here is top notch! Thank you.
grin what other source aside the western media high on something like cheap weed can come up with ludicrous and preposterous submission of this mumu Guardian editorial?

Re: The Guardian View On Putin’s Nuclear Threats Russia Is Losing In Ukraine by Krismas(m): 5:13pm On May 01, 2022
texazzpete:
Precisely my point that you Putin fanboys are dummies.

I said 'East'. You posted a screenshot about the fall of Melitopol in Southern Ukraine cheesy

Kai! cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
grin Lol grin one idiot have quickly like ur post? grin
U are generally daydreaming grin ur initial analysis is suffering from beriberi grin
Russia is the midst of phase 2 Donbas is done and dusted

Re: The Guardian View On Putin’s Nuclear Threats Russia Is Losing In Ukraine by texazzpete(m): 5:21pm On May 01, 2022
Krismas:
grin Lol grin one idiot have quickly like ur post? grin
U are generally daydreaming grin ur initial analysis is suffering from beriberi grin
Russia is the midst of phase 2 Donbas is done and dusted
Nobody is buying this attempt at deflection. You claimed Melitopol was in East Ukraine and now you’re desperate to backpedal and distract with useless nonsense.

Imagine coloring the map with ‘future goals’.

Three months of war and Practically half of Donbas is still in Ukrainian hands. Southern offensive has stalled. Kyiv offensive failed woefully.

And all this before Ukraine received more heavy weapons from European powers and the US.

You face months of pain and anguish, tbh.
Re: The Guardian View On Putin’s Nuclear Threats Russia Is Losing In Ukraine by GardenOfGod(op): 6:21pm On May 01, 2022
Krismas:
grin what other source aside the western media high on something like cheap weed can come up with ludicrous and preposterous submission of this mumu Guardian editorial?
Whereas it is a proven fact from the forgoing that you are here to only make a jest of Guardian's scholarly publications instead of engaging in sound arguments, I think it's time to disengage for the sake of my own sanity. Thank you wasting my time. grin
Re: The Guardian View On Putin’s Nuclear Threats Russia Is Losing In Ukraine by LadiesForever(f): 6:48pm On May 01, 2022
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topcatking:
If your father had only used a condom, your parents would have been saved the agony of having a mannerless, mentally impaired troglodyte masquerading as a child.

My pity is for your parents( that's if they are even legit. You are probably a b.asta.rd).
Help yourself, go jump of a bridge or take rat poison, it will help end your misery.

Filth.
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Didn't i tell you not to type your normal 'rubbish' or mistake me for your family members?
Or are you DEAF? huh
Just look how you are mistaking me for your father and his long lost condom which resulted to you.

Anyway, I canceled the whole thing for you.

No need to thank me...

Go in peace!

Re: The Guardian View On Putin’s Nuclear Threats Russia Is Losing In Ukraine by Krismas(m):
texazzpete:
Nobody is buying this attempt at deflection. You claimed Melitopol was in East Ukraine and now you’re desperate to backpedal and distract with useless nonsense.

Imagine coloring the map with ‘future goals’.

Three months of war and Practically half of Donbas is still in Ukrainian hands. Southern offensive has stalled. Kyiv offensive failed woefully.

And all this before Ukraine received more heavy weapons from European powers and the US.

You face months of pain and anguish, tbh.
grin I didn’t tell u Melitopol was east. My post was to show u that inspite of the phased Russian operation in Ukraine, every part of Ukraine is simultaneously under the attack of Russia. They’ve been hitting Lviv to the west as often as they want.
grin u need to wakeup from ur fools paradise in 8yrs of bloody conflict in Donbas, the Ukrainians Could not defeat the separatists, who still had a government in portions of Donbas
Now with Russia, u still think Donbas is in the hands of Ukraine?
Just like Mariupol grin Western analysts still maintain Ukraine has a foot hold in Mariupol, cos of the Azov battalion holing up in azovstal
The entire Donbas and eastern Ukraine is in the hands of Russia.
As for weapons from nato grin Russia is taking them from Ukraine en mass on a daily basis
Even Biden have said as much grin
https:///intelslava/27489

Re: The Guardian View On Putin’s Nuclear Threats Russia Is Losing In Ukraine by Krismas(m): 7:01pm On May 01, 2022
TobiAbuja:
Classic whataboutery. You can't hide from it.
grin

USA BOMBING LIST: The Democracy World Tour

Since the end of the Second World W

Korea and China 1950-53

(Korean War)

Guatemala 1954

Indonesia 1958

Cuba 1959-1961

Guatemala 1960

Congo 1964

Laos 1964-73

Vietnam 1961-73

Cambodia 1969-70 Guatemala 1967-69

Grenada 1983

Lebanon 1983, 1984

(both Lebanese and Syrian targets)

Libya 1986

El Salvador 1980s

Nicaragua 1980s

Iran 1987

Panama 1989

Iraq 1991 (Persian Gulf War)

Kuwait 1991

Somalia 1993

Bosnia 1994, 1995

Sudan 1998

Afghanistan 1998

Yugoslavia 1999

Yemen 2002

Iraq 1991-2003

(US / UK on regular basis)

Iraq 2003-2015

Afghanistan 2001-2015

Pakistan 2007-2015

Somalia 2007-8, 2011

Yemen 2009, 2011

Libya 2011, 2015

Syria 2014-2015

Most of the invasion were done because their government was asking for gold and euros for oil and the other reason was they wanted those countries because of their geographical positioning against ussr
Re: The Guardian View On Putin’s Nuclear Threats Russia Is Losing In Ukraine by Nobody: 7:07pm On May 01, 2022
afube:
Its a dog eat dog world............you want Russia to surrender their safety and security.......when a neighbor like Ukraine invites Russia's adversary NATO for dinner........a NATO that has engineered 2 civil wars and 2 insurrections in Russia in the past 20 years..........Russia is an alpha male nation.......you think Russia is like the zoo..that is intimidated by western nations. You better start prepping for an almighty messy world war in Ukraine.....e don red.......its goin get nasty fast!
The US, Iran, China and company will say the same thing.

At the end there are no good nations, just nations with interests
Re: The Guardian View On Putin’s Nuclear Threats Russia Is Losing In Ukraine by texazzpete(m): 9:05pm On May 01, 2022
Krismas:
grin I didn’t tell u Melitopol was east. My post was to show u that inspite of the phased Russian operation in Ukraine, every part of Ukraine is simultaneously under the attack of Russia. They’ve been hitting Lviv to the west as often as they want.
grin u need to wakeup from ur fools paradise in 8yrs of bloody conflict in Donbas, the Ukrainians Could not defeat the separatists, who still had a government in portions of Donbas
Now with Russia, u still think Donbas is in the hands of Ukraine?
Just like Mariupol grin Western analysts still maintain Ukraine has a foot hold in Mariupol, cos of the Azov battalion holing up in azovstal
The entire Donbas and eastern Ukraine is in the hands of Russia.
As for weapons from nato grin Russia is taking them from Ukraine en mass on a daily basis
Even Biden have said as much grin
https:///intelslava/27489
I mentioned Russia had had little success in the East, you brought up Melitopol. Is English comprehension your main challenge now?

The only reason why Ukraine wasn’t able to steamroller the DPR forces was because they were being supplied and supported by covert Russian forces. And no, they weren’t embroiled in all out fighting for 8 years. Thanks to the Minsk 2 agreement, hostilities were scaled back dramatically.

What does it matter if they’re hitting cities with missile strikes? You think they didn’t hit Kyiv with missiles too? Where is their Kyiv invasion plan now? cheesy

The invasion is in a shambles at the moment. Now your tyrant is desperate for any gains to report in time for the May 9th parade.


You will weep more tears of frustration grin
Re: The Guardian View On Putin’s Nuclear Threats Russia Is Losing In Ukraine by Excuzeme: 9:50pm On May 01, 2022
GardenOfGod:
You must be his wife or maybe concubine .... Sorry o grin grin grin
grin grin grin grin grin grin You funny-die
No, l dont know him but l just want ALL OF US, including you, to have a good, responsible and decent conversation devoid of insults, from BOTH Parties.
I am sure you will agree with that?
Re: The Guardian View On Putin’s Nuclear Threats Russia Is Losing In Ukraine by Excuzeme: 9:54pm On May 01, 2022
10 EU countries quietly buying gas with rubles, Hungary says


European leaders won?t admit they?re going along with Russia's deal, government official Gergely Gulyas said

While multiple European leaders have publicly proclaimed they won't buy Russian gas in rubles as Russian President Vladimir Putin has demanded, 10 EU countries are technically going along with Putin's plan, Hungarian official Gergely Gulyas told public radio on Sunday. According to Gulyas, these countries' leaders aren't admitting this in order to be seen as "being a good European."

Gulyas said that Hungary has opened a euro account with Russia's Gazprombank, which then converts payments into rubles before transferring them to suppliers in Russia. This system allows European buyers to comply with Putin's demand, made in late March, that "unfriendly" countries switch to Russia's national currency to buy its natural gas.

"There are nine other countries using the same payment scheme, but because today the idea of being a good European also means that the leaders of those countries are not honest when speaking either in the international arena or to their own people, the other nine countries won't say that they are doing the same thing," said Gulyas, who serves as Prime Minister Viktor Orban's chief of staff.

"There should be no doubt in anyone's mind that countries importing raw materials from Russia use exactly the same method to pay for Russian gas," he added.

It is unclear which EU countries Guylas was referring to. Russian energy giant Gazprom has already shut off supplies to Poland and Bulgaria after both refused to pay in rubles, but a Bloomberg report last week stated, as Gulyas did, that 10 of the bloc's member states have already set up accounts with Gazprombank, and four have actually paid for Russian gas using this mechanism.

Hungary depends on Russia for all of its gas imports, and has therefore opposed EU sanctions on this critical commodity. Gulyas reiterated this commitment to Russian energy and opposition to Brussels' sanctions regime on Sunday.

"We mustn't adopt sanctions with which we primarily penalize ourselves instead of those we want to sanction," he said, referring to soaring energy costs throughout Europe. While the government in Budapest has condemned Russia's military operation in Ukraine, Guylas said that it would "continue to buy our energy at the cheapest possible price" to offset any costs on the Hungarian people
E don dey Red small-small.
Cutting-off one's Nose, to Spite one's face, has never been a good strategy.
Re: The Guardian View On Putin’s Nuclear Threats Russia Is Losing In Ukraine by Krismas(m): 11:17pm On May 01, 2022
texazzpete:
I mentioned Russia had had little success in the East, you brought up Melitopol. Is English comprehension your main challenge now?

The only reason why Ukraine wasn’t able to steamroller the DPR forces was because they were being supplied and supported by covert Russian forces. And no, they weren’t embroiled in all out fighting for 8 years. Thanks to the Minsk 2 agreement, hostilities were scaled back dramatically.

What does it matter if they’re hitting cities with missile strikes? You think they didn’t hit Kyiv with missiles too? Where is their Kyiv invasion plan now? cheesy

The invasion is in a shambles at the moment. Now your tyrant is desperate for any gains to report in time for the May 9th parade.


You will weep more tears of frustration grin
grin I know how to do map reading. If Russia can take malitopol, why do u think Donbas is still hanging? Which is closer?
I will include a map.
Though I believe it’s outdated and spiced with western lies to mask Russian success in Ukraine.
U need to upgrade ur map reading skills to forestall future trash analysis of Russian controlled Ukraine
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troitske

Re: The Guardian View On Putin’s Nuclear Threats Russia Is Losing In Ukraine by kollinz1234(m): 1:45am On May 02, 2022
Krismas:
grin Ignorance. Russia is getting better every single day since the invasion of Ukraine grin
For the first time the Russian rouble is now an international currency grin Russia has taken over almost all the port cities of Ukraine which forms the main economic hub of the Ukrainian nation hitherto
Russia has destroyed most of the teeming population of neighboring nazi bridges and cults in Europe and are set to create a second option in the world for commerce, finance, media, social economic and cooperations separate from that of America and the west
Scam! Why then are they banning their people from free communication and access to the media? Which rubble has bcom an international currency when ordinary Nigeria don't even know what it looks like grin
See Poland, Czech, Sweden and even Finland has refused to pay for gas in rubble. Can u mention one European country that is paying for the gas in rubble? U people should just be deceiving yourselves. Let God keep us alive, we will see the end of it all.
Re: The Guardian View On Putin’s Nuclear Threats Russia Is Losing In Ukraine by GardenOfGod(op): 6:12am On May 02, 2022
Excuzeme:
grin grin grin grin grin grin You funny-die
No, l dont know him but l just want ALL OF US, including you, to have a good, responsible and decent conversation devoid of insults, from BOTH Parties.
I am sure you will agree with that?
Orr, me think say na him wife you be o... This faceless forum makes no one knows anyone. Anyways... Sometimes it's all about fun no insult. Thanks anyways! >: grin
Re: The Guardian View On Putin’s Nuclear Threats Russia Is Losing In Ukraine by Excuzeme:
kollinz1234:
Scam! Why then are they banning their people from free communication and access to the media? Which rubble has bcom an international currency when ordinary Nigeria don't even know what it looks like grin
See Poland, Czech, Sweden and even Finland has refused to pay for gas in rubble. Can u mention one European country that is paying for the gas in rubble? U people should just be deceiving yourselves. Let God keep us alive, we will see the end of it all.
HUNGARY for sure, is one of them and it has never hidden it.

NINE other European Countries are also paying in Roubles, they include Austria, Italy and Slovakia but they are not publicising it, because right now, European Leaders are deceiving their Citizens. undecided grin
SAYING one thing and DOING another.


"There are nine other countries using the same payment scheme, but because today the idea of being a good European also means that the leaders of those countries are not honest when speaking either in the international arena or to their own people, the other nine countries won't say that they are doing the same thing," said Gulyas, who serves as Prime Minister Viktor Orban's chief of staff.

"There should be no doubt in anyone's mind that countries importing raw materials from Russia use exactly the same method to pay for Russian gas," he added.
Re: The Guardian View On Putin’s Nuclear Threats Russia Is Losing In Ukraine by Krismas(m): 7:14am On May 02, 2022
kollinz1234:
Scam! Why then are they banning their people from free communication and access to the media? Which rubble has bcom an international currency when ordinary Nigeria don't even know what it looks like grin
See Poland, Czech, Sweden and even Finland has refused to pay for gas in rubble. Can u mention one European country that is paying for the gas in rubble? U people should just be deceiving yourselves. Let God keep us alive, we will see the end of it all.
grin Free media indeed! Facebook whatsap instagram Twitter cnn bbc Utube and their western likes are ANYTHING but free. They are outlets dedicated to churning out of lies and propaganda. Why did America and Europe prevent its citizens assess to press.tv? Why are news media like RT censored in the west?
As for paying in roubles, google could have saved u from embarrassment grin

Re: The Guardian View On Putin’s Nuclear Threats Russia Is Losing In Ukraine by kollinz1234(m): 9:00am On May 02, 2022
Krismas:
grin Free media indeed! Facebook whatsap instagram Twitter cnn bbc Utube and their western likes are ANYTHING but free. They are outlets dedicated to churning out of lies and propaganda. Why did America and Europe prevent its citizens assess to press.tv? Why are news media like RT censored in the west?
As for paying in roubles, google could have saved u from embarrassment grin
you fall hands Sha. mention one country paying in rubble, u can't ; you screenshots Google search page that mentions none and sent to me. Just like Russia soldiers, you Russian apologetics are doing a terrible job defending your master
Re: The Guardian View On Putin’s Nuclear Threats Russia Is Losing In Ukraine by Krismas(m): 11:12am On May 02, 2022
kollinz1234:
you fall hands Sha. mention one country paying in rubble, u can't ; you screenshots Google search page that mentions none and sent to me. Just like Russia soldiers, you Russian apologetics are doing a terrible job defending your master
grin u even don’t trust your own google? Western means of mind control which u loved so much in the past? Lol grin
U are learner if u really think those countries want to be named publicly
grin grin 10 EU countries quietly buying gas with rubles, Hungary says

Hungarian PM Viktor Orban's chief of staff, Gergely Gulyas, appears to have spilled the beans on what is really going on among the Russia-dependent European nations, as the ruble surged to six-month highs against the dollar.

While multiple European leaders have publicly proclaimed they won’t buy Russian gas in rubles, 10 EU countries are technically going along with Putin’s plan, Gulyas told public radio on Sunday.

Gulyas said that Hungary has opened a euro account with Russia’s Gazprombank, revealing “nine other countries" are using the "same payment scheme,” but these countries’ leaders aren’t admitting this in order to be seen as “being a good European.”

It is unclear which EU countries Guylas was referring to, Gazprom has already shut off supplies to Poland and Bulgaria after both refused to pay in rubles.

Subscribe to RT /rtnews
Re: The Guardian View On Putin’s Nuclear Threats Russia Is Losing In Ukraine by Excuzeme: 3:22pm On May 02, 2022
kollinz1234:
you fall hands Sha. mention one country paying in rubble, u can't ; you screenshots Google search page that mentions none and sent to me. Just like Russia soldiers, you Russian apologetics are doing a terrible job defending your master
I have listed at least FOUR Countries already confirmed to be paying in Russian Rouble and you can confirm the info, even just listening to Aljazeera this afternoon, you will hear the same info.

Hungary
Italy
Austria
Slovakia

..... have been confirmed to be paying for their Russian energy needs in Rouble.


The other five countries involved are "keeping it on the low" or using private Energy Companies undecided so it is not easy to confirm their names yet.
I know it feels painful and sometimes, we dont want to accept reality that Russia is not "suffering" as the western MSM are making us to believe but Reality is just Reality and we will all accept it, at one point or the other.

Russia is not anyone's master, no one is a "Russian apologetic", all we are doing is "sharing facts", as they arise.
You donr blame a Journalist (not claiming to be one) for sharing the facts, whether it fits our narrative or not.
Re: The Guardian View On Putin’s Nuclear Threats Russia Is Losing In Ukraine by Nobody: 6:10pm On May 02, 2022
Krismas:
grin If u cannot see that INVASION OF UKRAINE IS UNPROVOKED mantra as serious western brainwash, then I doubt your intellectual capacity to analyze the Nigerian debacle. Deal first with the intellectual cataract in ur mental sight
Your thought process is very absurd and shows the whole lot of things wrong in Nigeria.

There is no justification in Russia invading Ukraine and stealing it's territories.

One can come up with reasons to seemingly justify any wrong doing. Even the whole of Germany bought Hitler's justification for murdering over 10 million civilians in WW2 ,that doesn't make it right.

By the way, hope you know USSR / Russia was in an alliance with Nazi Germany during the early days of WW2 ?

Hope you know that Poland and many more former Soviet countries was invaded and annexed ? They didn't join willingly.

Russia invaded Georgia and stole it's territories,
Russia stole japanese territories,
Russia acquired Finnish territories through force of arms,
Russia is doing same in Ukraine today and while still bodged down, the Russians are already laying the foundation to justify theft of Moldovian territory.

It's only an uninformed student of history that doesn't see what Russia is trying to do in the last 20 years, go back to your history books and return when you must have acquired a little wisdom
Re: The Guardian View On Putin’s Nuclear Threats Russia Is Losing In Ukraine by kollinz1234(m): 6:57pm On May 03, 2022
Excuzeme:
I have listed at least FOUR Countries already confirmed to be paying in Russian Rouble and you can confirm the info, even just listening to Aljazeera this afternoon, you will hear the same info.

Hungary
Italy
Austria
Slovakia
I like your response. Matured and precise. Keep it up
..... have been confirmed to be paying for their Russian energy needs in Rouble.


The other five countries involved are "keeping it on the low" or using private Energy Companies undecided so it is not easy to confirm their names yet.
I know it feels painful and sometimes, we dont want to accept reality that Russia is not "suffering" as the western MSM are making us to believe but Reality is just Reality and we will all accept it, at one point or the other.

Russia is not anyone's master, no one is a "Russian apologetic", all we are doing is "sharing facts", as they arise.
You donr blame a Journalist (not claiming to be one) for sharing the facts, whether it fits our narrative or not.
I like your response; matured and precise. Keep it up bro!
Re: The Guardian View On Putin’s Nuclear Threats Russia Is Losing In Ukraine by kollinz1234(m): 7:00pm On May 03, 2022
Krismas:
grin u even don’t trust your own google? Western means of mind control which u loved so much in the past? Lol grin
U are learner if u really think those countries want to be named publicly
grin grin 10 EU countries quietly buying gas with rubles, Hungary says

Hungarian PM Viktor Orban's chief of staff, Gergely Gulyas, appears to have spilled the beans on what is really going on among the Russia-dependent European nations, as the ruble surged to six-month highs against the dollar.

While multiple European leaders have publicly proclaimed they won’t buy Russian gas in rubles, 10 EU countries are technically going along with Putin’s plan, Gulyas told public radio on Sunday.

Gulyas said that Hungary has opened a euro account with Russia’s Gazprombank, revealing “nine other countries" are using the "same payment scheme,” but these countries’ leaders aren’t admitting this in order to be seen as “being a good European.”

It is unclear which EU countries Guylas was referring to, Gazprom has already shut off supplies to Poland and Bulgaria after both refused to pay in rubles.

Subscribe to RT /rtnews
I wish you were making as much points as your noise
Re: The Guardian View On Putin’s Nuclear Threats Russia Is Losing In Ukraine by Krismas(m): 8:33am On May 04, 2022
eduj:
Your thought process is very absurd and shows the whole lot of things wrong in Nigeria.

There is no justification in Russia invading Ukraine and stealing it's territories.

One can come up with reasons to seemingly justify any wrong doing. Even the whole of Germany bought Hitler's justification for murdering over 10 million civilians in WW2 ,that doesn't make it right.

By the way, hope you know USSR / Russia was in an alliance with Nazi Germany during the early days of WW2 ?

Hope you know that Poland and many more former Soviet countries was invaded and annexed ? They didn't join willingly.

Russia invaded Georgia and stole it's territories,
Russia stole japanese territories,
Russia acquired Finnish territories through force of arms,
Russia is doing same in Ukraine today and while still bodged down, the Russians are already laying the foundation to justify theft of Moldovian territory.

It's only an uninformed student of history that doesn't see what Russia is trying to do in the last 20 years, go back to your history books and return when you must have acquired a little wisdom
grin The whole Germany supported Hitler in murdering Jews? Really? How about several Germans Hitler murdered as well? Those who he sent to concentration camps? Who ever talks of those things?
Russian affairs over the last 20yrs? Lets keep that till later. Focus is on this present war in Ukraine.
People like u, who are brainwashed by western press forget that the war is not strictly Russia-Ukraine. The war is first a CIVIL WAR btw Western-Ukraine and Eastern-Ukraine.
It’s a divided country wanting different things. The high point was in 2014 Maiden riots after nationalists soon to be identified as Azov, Aider, Right-Sector, in support of the government In Kiev, attacked protesters in Odessa May 2, 2014. And burnt them 42 in number in a union house, they ran into for protection.
It was that day the Donbas liberation movement was formed.
Eastern-Ukraine are Russian speaking people that treated as second class in Ukraine, so why not split the place like u had North/South Vietnam. West/East Germany, South/North Korea?
After 8yrs of civil war, their was an agreement reached in Minsk btw both parties, detailing Kiev to recognize the separatists government and partial autonomy for Donbas.
Kiev under Zelensky latter backed out from those Misk agreements and commenced a brutal attack against d separatists.
Russia had no alternative but to intervene and check the nationalists backed by Kiev and western powers

Re: The Guardian View On Putin’s Nuclear Threats Russia Is Losing In Ukraine by Nobody: 9:07am On May 04, 2022
Krismas:
grin The whole Germany supported Hitler in murdering Jews? Really? How about several Germans Hitler murdered as well? Those who he sent to concentration camps? Who ever talks of those things?
Russian affairs over the last 20yrs? Lets keep that till later. Focus is on this present war in Ukraine.
People like u, who are brainwashed by western press forget that the war is not strictly Russia-Ukraine. The war is first a CIVIL WAR btw Western-Ukraine and Eastern-Ukraine.
It’s a divided country wanting different things. The high point was in 2014 Maiden riots after nationalists soon to be identified as Azov, Aider, Right-Sector, in support of the government In Kiev, attacked protesters in Odessa May 2, 2014. And burnt them 42 in number in a union house, they ran into for protection.
It was that day the Donbas liberation movement was formed.
Eastern-Ukraine are Russian speaking people that treated as second class in Ukraine, so why not split the place like u had North/South Vietnam. West/East Germany, South/North Korea?
After 8yrs of civil war, their was an agreement reached in Minsk btw both parties, detailing Kiev to recognize the separatists government and partial autonomy for Donbas.
Kiev under Zelensky latter backed out from those Misk agreements and commenced a brutal attack against d separatists.
Russia had no alternative but to intervene and check the nationalists backed by Kiev and western powers
Ukrainian radicals , hope you know that every country has its radicals ?

am tired of arguing with a kid who knows only selective history.

how many Germans did Hitler murder ? comparing that with over 6 million Jews he and his German army collected and murdered in over 10 country's is stupidity.

Denying that Hitler had majority German support is idiocy.

And can you tell the house who lead the Donbas insurgency ?

using bogus claims ,Russia has stolen territories from Japan,Finland,Georgia and now Ukraine.

a country founded in hypocrisy and lies, why should we limit what's happening to the last 20 years when it began during the second world war period ?

Research about the Soviet -german protocol on how both nations will share the rest of Europe. While German got mostly reradicalised, the Soviet and now Russian ones have only grown bolder as years go.
Re: The Guardian View On Putin’s Nuclear Threats Russia Is Losing In Ukraine by Nobody: 9:09am On May 04, 2022
Krismas:
grin The whole Germany supported Hitler in murdering Jews? Really? How about several Germans Hitler murdered as well? Those who he sent to concentration camps? Who ever talks of those things?
Russian affairs over the last 20yrs? Lets keep that till later. Focus is on this present war in Ukraine.
People like u, who are brainwashed by western press forget that the war is not strictly Russia-Ukraine. The war is first a CIVIL WAR btw Western-Ukraine and Eastern-Ukraine.
It’s a divided country wanting different things. The high point was in 2014 Maiden riots after nationalists soon to be identified as Azov, Aider, Right-Sector, in support of the government In Kiev, attacked protesters in Odessa May 2, 2014. And burnt them 42 in number in a union house, they ran into for protection.
It was that day the Donbas liberation movement was formed.
Eastern-Ukraine are Russian speaking people that treated as second class in Ukraine, so why not split the place like u had North/South Vietnam. West/East Germany, South/North Korea?
After 8yrs of civil war, their was an agreement reached in Minsk btw both parties, detailing Kiev to recognize the separatists government and partial autonomy for Donbas.
Kiev under Zelensky latter backed out from those Misk agreements and commenced a brutal attack against d separatists.
Russia had no alternative but to intervene and check the nationalists backed by Kiev and western powers
Ukrainian radicals , hope you know that every country has its radicals ?

am tired of arguing with a kid who knows only selective history.

how many Germans did Hitler murder ? comparing that with over 6 million Jews he and his German army collected and murdered in over 10 country's is stupidity.

Denying that Hitler had majority German support is idiocy.

And can you tell the house who lead the Donbas insurgency ?

using bogus claims ,Russia has stolen territories from Japan,Finland,Georgia and now Ukraine.

a country founded in hypocrisy and lies, why should we limit what's happening to the last 20 years when it began during the second world war period ?

Research about the Soviet -german protocol on how both nations will share the rest of Europe. While German got mostly reradicalised, the Soviet and now Russian ones have only grown bolder as years go.
Re: The Guardian View On Putin’s Nuclear Threats Russia Is Losing In Ukraine by Krismas(m): 9:49am On May 04, 2022
eduj:
Ukrainian radicals , hope you know that every country has its radicals ?

am tired of arguing with a kid who knows only selective history.

how many Germans did Hitler murder ? comparing that with over 6 million Jews he and his German army collected and murdered in over 10 country's is stupidity.

Denying that Hitler had majority German support is idiocy.

And can you tell the house who lead the Donbas insurgency ?

using bogus claims ,Russia has stolen territories from Japan,Finland,Georgia and now Ukraine.

a country founded in hypocrisy and lies, why should we limit what's happening to the last 20 years when it began during the second world war period ?

Research about the Soviet -german protocol on how both nations will share the rest of Europe. While German got mostly reradicalised, the Soviet and now Russian ones have only grown bolder as years go.
grin Every nation has radicals u say? Is that why the Azov Aider and Right sector are battalions in the Ukraine armed forces? What if Boko Haram UGM and bandits became absolved in the Nigerian military? How cool will that be?
Germans killed and sent to death camps not up to Jews killed? Were their Germans killed for resisting Hitler at all? Why are they never mentioned? Why are Germans who put their lives on the line to hide Jews never celebrated? All Germans collaborated in crimes of the Nazi party is rotten conclusion.
Who are the leaders of the separatists? Wot does it matter? Wot does the leaders of Biafra agitation have to do wit the resolve of the eastern Nigeria for autonomy? The resolve for autonomy in eastern Ukraine is wot western media keep mute about.
Russia, Germany pact? Jo Stalin knew Hitler will renege on all agreements. Hitler was not known to be a man of his words.
What u call history is brainwash. U are brainwashed
Re: The Guardian View On Putin’s Nuclear Threats Russia Is Losing In Ukraine by Nobody: 1:36pm On May 04, 2022
Krismas:
grin Every nation has radicals u say? Is that why the Azov Aider and Right sector are battalions in the Ukraine armed forces? What if Boko Haram UGM and bandits became absolved in the Nigerian military? How cool will that be?
Germans killed and sent to death camps not up to Jews killed? Were their Germans killed for resisting Hitler at all? Why are they never mentioned? Why are Germans who put their lives on the line to hide Jews never celebrated? All Germans collaborated in crimes of the Nazi party is rotten conclusion.
Who are the leaders of the separatists? Wot does it matter? Wot does the leaders of Biafra agitation have to do wit the resolve of the eastern Nigeria for autonomy? The resolve for autonomy in eastern Ukraine is wot western media keep mute about.
Russia, Germany pact? Jo Stalin knew Hitler will renege on all agreements. Hitler was not known to be a man of his words.
What u call history is brainwash. U are brainwashed
your getting more gibberish the more this goes on.


the leaders of the Donbas insurgency matters because they where Russian personell (in some cases ex-military). So yes Russia instigated unrest in eastern Ukraine in the build up to this present conflict.

about azov regiment,you can also google about the Russian radical militant groups fighting in the donbas

USSR/Russia invaded Poland and when they met resistance, invited there allies the Germans and together both invaded Poland during the early days of the WWII . that's why Poland is very much anti-Russia today. Germany built most of its tanks and weapons in Soviet controlled territories to beat an armistice imposed on it after WWI.

Hitler didn't kill up to 6 million of his people , he killed dessidents bases on popular public support. Read the book Rudolf Hess written by his son.

part of the reasons Hitler gave during his invasion of countries in the early days of WWII was that
1) he was protecting German speakers in those countries
2) correction of wrongs done to Germany by the allies after WWI

sounds familiar to Putin's excuse right ?


another similarities is that Germany renegades on signed agreement with other countries even before the ink dried. Infact the English prime minister was just arriving back home to England after a peace signing occasion with Hitler when Germany invaded Belgium in what officially counts as the beginning of WWII.

there's a reason for the saying "absolute power corrupts". A single individual isn't meant to be absolute in power. That's why the biggest misadventure in history come from men like Napoleon Bonaparte, Adolf Hilter, Idi-Amin, the Assad family,and the puppet masters of north Korea

go back to school and allow your betters hammer out ignorance from your head
Re: The Guardian View On Putin’s Nuclear Threats Russia Is Losing In Ukraine by Krismas(m): 2:44pm On May 04, 2022
eduj:
your getting more gibberish the more this goes on.


the leaders of the Donbas insurgency matters because they where Russian personell (in some cases ex-military). So yes Russia instigated unrest in eastern Ukraine in the build up to this present conflict.

about azov regiment,you can also google about the Russian radical militant groups fighting in the donbas

USSR/Russia invaded Poland and when they met resistance, invited there allies the Germans and together both invaded Poland during the early days of the WWII . that's why Poland is very much anti-Russia today. Germany built most of its tanks and weapons in Soviet controlled territories to beat an armistice imposed on it after WWI.

Hitler didn't kill up to 6 million of his people , he killed dessidents bases on popular public support. Read the book Rudolf Hess written by his son.

part of the reasons Hitler gave during his invasion of countries in the early days of WWII was that
1) he was protecting German speakers in those countries
2) correction of wrongs done to Germany by the allies after WWI

sounds familiar to Putin's excuse right ?


another similarities is that Germany renegades on signed agreement with other countries even before the ink dried. Infact the English prime minister was just arriving back home to England after a peace signing occasion with Hitler when Germany invaded Belgium in what officially counts as the beginning of WWII.

there's a reason for the saying "absolute power corrupts". A single individual isn't meant to be absolute in power. That's why the biggest misadventure in history come from men like Napoleon Bonaparte, Adolf Hilter, Idi-Amin, the Assad family,and the puppet masters of north Korea

go back to school and allow your betters hammer out ignorance from your head
grin The Western impositions on Germany was the defacto reason Hitler gave for invading Poland and for good reason. How many Germans are poles? The officer language in Ukraine used to be Both Ukraine and Russia until recently. That should speak volumes
The west of Ukraine want to join EU and NATO, the east Ukraine does not approve of both. Those who were burnt In Odessa were merely expressing their opposition to EU membership for their country! Nothing more. U cannever wish away the truth abt eastern Ukraine’s resolve for autonomy away from Kiev controlled government.
U talk of Russia being in Japan but fail to see the Americans keeping bases in Japan and Germany since WW2 as extremely rude! This inspite of official request to them to LEAVE!
Its convenient for u to dismiss a legitimate wish for autonomy in east Ukraine as Russia instigated. U are very wrong.
Peeps like u on NL even believe Putin is out to cease Kiev? But watchout Ukraine will break up into east and west. The west Ukraine under Zelensky or whoever can join the devil afterwards.
Poland was part of the USSR and the capital of the Warsaw Pact which was the equivalent of NATO. The hatred towards Russia by Poland is orchestration of western manipulation.
Take a look at wot ur beloved Azov is doing

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