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cornelboy:
Lol. He's actually a Father to me.

OLAADEGBU:
Objection: Jesus Prayed:

Some cults argue that because Jesus prayed to the Father, He could not truly be God. 

Biblically, however, it was in His humanity that Christ prayed to the Father.  Since Christ came as a man -- and since one of the proper duties of man is to worship, pray to and adore God -- it was perfectly proper for Jesus to address the Father in prayer.  Positionally speaking as a man, as a Jew and as our High Priest -- "in all things He had to be made like His brethren" (Hebrews 2:7) -- Jesus could pray to the Father.  But this in no way detracts from His intrinsic deity. AiG

cornelboy:
Let's take it one by one. Let's start with Godhead.
What's the difference between Godhead and God?
What's the difference between god, God and GOD?

KaLuCh:
Alright boss. I'll of course not want to sound disrespectful to someone who's a father to you even though he can't seem to stop making funny conclusions as to why I refer to you as boss. I'm not learning jack from you, in fact,

And by the way, .

I'm sure we can both agree that individual is not like a father to you because you call him sir

I'm repulsed by you trying to say Jesus is not God just as the Father is.

OLAADEGBU:
Objection: Jesus Prayed:

Some cults argue that because Jesus prayed to the Father, He could not truly be God. 

Biblically, however, it was in His humanity that Christ prayed to the Father.  Since Christ came as a man -- and since one of the proper duties of man is to worship, pray to and adore God -- it was perfectly proper for Jesus to address the Father in prayer.  Positionally speaking as a man, as a Jew and as our High Priest -- "in all things He had to be made like His brethren" (Hebrews 2:7) -- Jesus could pray to the Father.  But this in no way detracts from His intrinsic deity. AiG

cornelboy:
Lol. He's actually a Father to me.

KaLuCh:
You don't understand boss, I'm not debating Jesus' Deity status with you or anybody else, ever.

I'm just stating matter-of-factly what I believe. So you can forget about me going taking it 'one by one' with you if you're driving at Jesus not being the same as God the Father.

KaLuCh:
Jesus is God. In Christianity we know God the father, God the son and God the Holy Spirit. Our entire faith is founded upon Christ being as much God as the father. To deny that, to be apologetic about that, to concede even one bit against that, is a denial of the faith.

If you don't believe so, you are not a Christian the bible way. If you feel the need to debate against the deity of Christ, you are not a true Christian. If you mention me to call me misguided or whatever you wish, I will not respond as I don't care what you think.

Revelation 3:5,12 & John 20:17, in heaven and Earth did Jesus Christ believe what you typed?

John 20:17 & Revelation 3:5,12 Jesus Christ won't lose sleep over your FALSE claim.

KaLuCh:
You don't understand boss, I'm not debating Jesus' Deity status with you or anybody else, ever.

I'm just stating matter-of-factly what I believe. So you can forget about me taking it 'one by one' with you if you're driving at Jesus not being the same as God the Father.

Jashub:
If Jesus is not God Almighty then who is God ?

Jashub:
Have you forgotten that Jesus always spoke about His father ? Who is His Father and what did He tell His disciples when they asked about who His Father was?

Oga, does Good Almighty have a Father?
Did you Trinitarians & Kaluch say they are 3 persons?
Why would Jesus Christ be his Father?


Confused polytheists

OLAADEGBU:
Objection: Jesus Prayed:

Some cults argue that because Jesus prayed to the Father, He could not truly be God. 

Biblically, however, it was in His humanity that Christ prayed to the Father.  Since Christ came as a man -- and since one of the proper duties of man is to worship, pray to and adore God -- it was perfectly proper for Jesus to address the Father in prayer.  Positionally speaking as a man, as a Jew and as our High Priest -- "in all things He had to be made like His brethren" (Hebrews 2:7) -- Jesus could pray to the Father.  But this in no way detracts from His intrinsic deity. AiG

Jashub:
But that's not true . In John 14 :8 , Philip asked Jesus to show them His Father ? And what was His reply? John14:9 Have I been with you so long ,and yet you have not known me Me Philip? He who has seen Me has the seen the Father ;so how can you say show us the Father ? Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me?

This plainly says that Jesus is the Father , which happens to be a very , very strong claim . In fact, it was for this reason the Jews wanted to stone Him in John8:58 because He blasphemed and made the claim He was God .

Janosky:
John 20:17 & Revelation 3:5,12 did Jesus Christ in heaven and Earth, agree with your claim?


Oga, does Good Almighty have a Father?
Did you Trinitarians & Kaluch say they are 3 persons?
Why would Jesus Christ be his Father?


Confused polytheists

HedwigesMaduro:
If Jesus implied He was the Father, and still says "the Father is greater than I am", wouldn't that be a contradiction?

KaLuCh:
For using the word misinformed, I would not reply you but just maybe if I show you what you asked, you might see the light. If you don't, well, at least I tried.

Places in the bible where Jesus was called God and where He referred to Himself as the Son of God.

John 10:30 “The Father and I are one.”

KaLuCh:
Isaiah 7:14-“Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel” (which literally means “God with us”).

KaLuCh:
Malachi 3:1-2-“Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.

KaLuCh:
Philippians 2:5-6 “You must have the same attitude that Christ Jesus had. Though he was God, he did not think of equality with God as something to cling to.”

KaLuCh:
John 1:18 “No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.“

KaLuCh:
Colossians 2:9-10 “For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily. and in Christ you have been brought to fullness. He is the head over every power and authority."

KaLuCh:
Matthew 28:19 “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.”

KaLuCh:
John 5:18 “This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.“

KaLuCh:
John 1:1 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.“

9. John 1:14 “And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.“

KaLuCh:
Revelation 1:17-18 “When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. But he laid his right hand on me, saying, “Fear not, I am the first and the last, and the living one. I died, and behold I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of Death and Hades.“

KaLuCh:
2 Peter 1:1 “Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ.“

KaLuCh:
Titus 2:13-“Looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ”

Acts 20:28 “Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.“

KaLuCh:
Romans 9:5 "of whom are the fathers and from whom, according to the flesh, Christ came, who is over all, the eternally blessed God. Amen.
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KaLuCh:
1 Timothy 3:16-“And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.”

KaLuCh:
Heb. 1:8-9 “But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows”


By no means an exhaustive list. I don't really care what you think, but Jesus is God.

Janosky:
All men and spirits , including Jesus are deities,1 Corinthians 8:4-5.
Matthew 6:9, we all have one God the Father we pray to.

cornelboy:
Is what you believe Paul would believe if he were here with us today?
I mean is what you believe the TRUTH?

Janosky:
Bros talk true, is the word,"God" @ John 10:30?
E no dey there,na you put am.

Your Trinity mentors agreed that Jesus is the ANGEL of the covenant.
Amplified Bible & 1599 Geneva bible. Pls go confirm.

"Who is himself God" is a DUBIOUS insert into the Bible.
Bill mounce Greek interlinear Bible confirm that.

Many Bible texts were tampered with,by Trinitarians like they did @ 1 Timothy 3:16.[/b]

To start with, "eternally blessed" Is not in the Greek Interlinear of Roman 9:5..

The Word "Hos( who /he" is NOT God.
In the Greek Interlinear of 1 Timothy 3:16, your Trinity mentors DUBIOUSLY insert "Theo's"
Bill Mounce Greek Interlinear is your friend.

Emusan:
Just as the word "other" was never part of Colossians 1:16-18, Phil 2:7 but was dubiously inserted into your own translation.

When are you going to talk about that?



Just at the same Trinity mentors say Jesus is God



Just as your organization dubiously inserted the word 'other" into their own translation.

When are you going to call them out?

Don't forget, the same Bill Mounce Greek interlinear Bible confirmed that the insertion of the word "other" is a dubious insertion





Don't forget the Bible text your organization also tampered with like that of Colossians 1:16-18



To open your eyes, "other" was not in the Greek interlinear of Colossians 1:16-18, Phil 2:7



In the Greek interlinear of Colossians 1:16-18, your 8 lying old men DUBIOUSLY inserted "Other" Bill Mounce Greek interlinear is your friend.

I know Jano won't like this

tctrills:
The goal of the Son is to become like the father. Jesus told us to be perfect even as our father in heaven. God wants all his children to be like him. He is not scared when we become like him. He is ready to give us all that he has, all his power and knowledge if we obey him.
Remember, he gave all his power to Jesus Christ.
Matthew 28:18. And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
In summary, the Son is not Greater than the Father, He is made just like the Father.

HedwigesMaduro:
Was it in His humanity He also said "...the temple of My God..." in Rev 3?

Emusan:
Lol....so you are a deity too
D

Oga, learn from your dictionary
Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages ·
deity
/ˈdeɪɪti,ˈdiːɪti/
Learn to pronounce
[b]noun
a god or goddess

The creator and supreme being (in a monotheistic religion such as Christianity).
noun: Deity; noun: the Deity"

Note:
Una say Jesus Christ is the second person.
Therefore, he is not The Deity.
:The Deity is God Almighty, his Father.

Emusan:
But the 8 old lying deities in Warwick are Almighty than your own deity

Jashub:
You sabi the guy wella

OLAADEGBU:
No. Who was speaking here and to whom?

Psalms 45:6-7 of Hebrew Masoretic Text,
"YOUR THRONE GIVEN OF GOD"
is the genuine rendition of Hebrew 1:8.
Hebrew 1:8 copied Psalm 45:6-7.

Even the Pope (whose Church taught all of you the Trinity GIBBERISH) his own Bible, the Catholic Church New Jerusalem Bible proven that OLAADEGBU used a FRAUD version of Hebrew 1:8

Janosky:
Psalms 45:6-7 of Hebrew Masoretic Text,
"YOUR THRONE GIVEN OF GOD"
is the genuine rendition of Hebrew 1:8.
Hebrew 1:8 copied Psalm 45:6-7.

Even the Pope (whose Church taught all of you the Trinity GIBBERISH) his own Bible, the Catholic Church New Jerusalem Bible proven that OLAADEGBU used a FRAUD version of Hebrew 1:8

cornelboy:
Read what tctrills wrote again. You no get im points.

Emusan:
Just as the word "other" was never part of Colossians 1:16-18,
D

Emusan:
Just at the same Trinity mentors say Jesus is God
D

Emusan:
Phil 2:7 but was dubiously inserted into your own translation
Just as your organization dubiously inserted the word 'other" into their own translation.

When are you going to call them out? :DD

Don't forget, the same Bill Mounce Greek interlinear Bible confirmed that the insertion of the word "other" is a dubious insertion
D

Hebrew1:2 , Greek "Dia autou THROUGH him" is also at Colossians 1:16..
Emusan is grasping at straws.
Hebrews & Colossians proven Jesus is NOT the Creator

Emusan:
Phil 2:7 but was dubiously inserted into your own translation

To open your eyes, "other" was not in the Greek interlinear of, Phil 2:7


In the Greek interlinear of Colossians 1:16-18, your 8 lying old men DUBIOUSLY inserted "Other" Bill Mounce Greek interlinear is your friend.

I know Jano won't like this

OLAADEGBU:
I know you have to defend the twisted version that supports your heresies. Only God can open your eyes to see and know the truth that will set you free.

See mumu excuses on a public forum
.
Oga,The UK Government can charge you to Court for your comments inciting anti semitism on this thread.

The scroll of Hebrew Masoretic Text read by the Jews in their synagogues for many centuries before any English Bible came off the press, is a twisted version?


Oga, please exercise your right to console yourself & be LYING

Emusan:
Yes that's why Paul and early christians can pray to Jesus the way true believers are doing today.

NLT: "I am writing to God’s church in Corinth, to you who have been called by God to be his own holy people. He made you holy by means of Christ Jesus, just as he did for all people everywhere who call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, their Lord and ours." 1 Corin 1:2

Janosky:
See mumu excuses on a public forum
.
Oga,The UK Government can charge you to Court for your comments inciting anti semitism on this thread.

The scroll of Hebrew Masoretic Text read by the Jews in their synagogues for many centuries before any English Bible came off the press, is a twisted version?


Oga, please exercise your right to console yourself & be LYING

OLAADEGBU:
You have not answered the question. Is the Father greater than the Son?