Within the current Church, very wealthy and powerful Pastors are now being linked to the Freemasons (Secret Societies). Kenneth Copeland, T.D Jakes, Bishop Eddie Long, Pat Robertson, Robert Schuller 33rd degree, Oral Roberts, Louis Farrakhan, and Billy Graham all have been linked to the secret society known as the Freemasons or Illuminati.

Source: http://www.pimppreacher.com/Should-Pastors-Be-Freemasons.html (Preacher Bureau of Investigations Exposing The Greed In Our Pulpits)

When Christ returns will He find faith?

It is the devil that stirs all these nonsense to discredit ministers

2 Peter 2:10
10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.

Jesus has already warned we the elect about all you false pastors and ministers:
Mark 13:22
For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform signs and miracles to deceive the elect--if that were possible.

@poster
did you even read the article before posting ?where in the article did you see any evidence of the pastors mentioned being members of the free masons?the article mentioned their names without any of their pictures showing them in the mason's regalia neither did it offer any evidence to this effect dont make wild and unsubstantiated allegations without proof

GODSON2009

did you even read the article before posting ?where in the article did you see any evidence of the pastors mentioned being members of the free masons?the article mentioned their names without any  of their pictures showing them in the mason's regalia neither did it offer any evidence to this effect dont make wild and unsubstantiated allegations without proof

[size=16pt]And what proof do you have for your defence of these false pastors?[/size]

MrBible:

Jesus has already warned we the elect about all you false pastors and ministers:
Mark 13:22
For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform signs and miracles to deceive the elect--if that were possible.

The scripture you're quoting is primarily for Jews during the tribulation. The bible rather warns us of false brethren like you guys. On what ground are you attacking ministers .this is against what bible teaches .

Romans 14:4
4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

The word of God is our standard for living and pistulating "judgements"
2 Timothy 3:16
16 All scripture[ is] given by inspiration of God, and[ is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
Anybody can say, write, or publish anything what matters is what the God's word says

Joagbaje

The scripture you're quoting is primarily for Jews during the tribulation. The bible rather warns us of false brethren like you guys. On what ground are you attacking ministers .this is against what bible teaches .

[size=16pt]But Malachi 3:10 is not for the Jews when you false pastors use it to collect tithes, may all you false pastors reap your reward in full Amen.[/size]

^^^ Don't mind the thieves! They say that what Jesus said in Matthew 24 does not apply to the church; but the same thieves say that what He said in Matthew 23:23 to the Pharisees is applicable ----- especially that He did not denounce tithing.

These people have no integrity; what they rely on and what they are living on is that there are enough fools or gullible or misguided people who will believe any nonsense that they say. It is 'paining' them that they are being exposed as intellectually and spiritually bankrupt before more discerning people and that they do not have the respect of some people who they want to feel "amongst".

I dont know whether any of these men belong to freemason and i dont want to speculate.
It wont be a surprise to find out there are some pastors who belong to that sect. The scripture in Timothy says, in the end time some would fall away from faith and give heeds to doctrines taught by demons. Its very very true.

Although I dont want to join conspiracy theory, there are some statements TD Jakes made which are questionable. He was saying something subtly encouraging lesbianism and homosexuality. And when asked "is Jesus the only way?" he says , "there are other sheep which are not of this fold." the word of Jesus in John10, which he interpretes as it is possible for other non-Christians to enter Heaven.

As par judging others, we have to be careful as well as wise. The same Paul who says we should not condem was the same person who rebuked Peter for behaving like a hypocrite in the book of Galatians.

vislabraye:


Although I dont want to join conspiracy theory, there are some statements TD Jakes made which are questionable. He was saying something subtly encouraging lesbianism and homosexuality. And when asked "is Jesus the only way?" he says , "there are other sheep which are not of this fold." the word of Jesus in John10, which he interpretes as it is possible for other non-Christians to enter Heaven.

Td jakes didn't suggest there is any other way. And of course we can't deny the fact that there are some people who will get saved in other faith if they never had opportunity to hear the gospel. There is another standard of judgement for them. They won't be judged by the gospel , they will be judged by their conscience which was a witness of God in their haaerts.

As par judging others, we have to be careful as well as wise. The same Paul who says we should not condem was the same person who rebuked Peter for behaving like a hypocrite in the book of Galatians.

There is difference between rebuke and condemnation and criticism . At least paul confronted Peter directly. That's love.and restoration.

MrBible:

GODSON2009
[size=16pt]And what proof do you have for your defence of these false pastors?[/size]

the basic premise in law states that "he who asserts must do so with proof"you posted some grevious allegations without backing proof so how else is the authenticity to be tested

GODSON2009

the basic premise in law states that "he who asserts must do so with proof"you posted some grevious allegations without backing proof so how else is the authenticity to be tested

Well it was discussed on a radio station in the US and a member of the masons was involved. Are you a member of the masons? If not what defence do have?

[size=15pt]"On a recent episode of Church Folk Revolution Radio the topic of “Should your Pastor Join the Freemasons” cause a very heated exchange between the host and a member of the masons. Several issues and concerns were raised about the conflict of spiritual interest that arises when a Pastor is also a member of the Freemasons"[/size]

Td jakes didn't suggest there is any other way. And of course we can't deny the fact that there are some people who will get saved in other faith if they never had opportunity to hear the gospel. There is another standard of judgement for them. They won't be judged by the gospel , t[b]hey will be judged by their conscience which was a witness of God in their haaerts[/b]

So God has double standards.

If you can do a little research on youtube, you will hear it with ur naked ears when TD Jakes made some vague statements supporting this. I'll post the link to u later.

vislabraye:

So God has double standards.

Multiple standards, according to his dealing with a people .

If you can do a little research on youtube, you will hear it with your unclothed ears when TD Jakes made some vague statements supporting this. I'll post the link to u later.

I listened to it  And I understand what he meant . Those who didn't hear the gospel will be judged by the conscience which is a witness of God in them.

Romans 2:14-15
14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: 15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness,

How will God judge nebuchadenezzer? Or your great great great grandmother? Is it According to the law ,or according to the gospel?

MrBible:

GODSON2009

Well it was discussed on a radio station in the US and a member of the masons was involved. Are you a member of the masons? If not what defence do have?

[size=15pt]"On a recent episode of Church Folk Revolution Radio the topic of “Should your Pastor Join the Freemasons” cause a very heated exchange between the host and a member of the masons. Several issues and concerns were raised about the conflict of spiritual interest that arises when a Pastor is also a member of the Freemasons"[/size]

in other words,no proof

Joagbaje:

The scripture you're quoting is primarily for Jews during the tribulation. The bible rather warns us of false brethren like you guys. On what ground are you attacking ministers .this is against what bible teaches .

Romans 14:4
4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

really? what EXACTLY in that verse suggests that He was referring to Jews and not believers?
Its appalling the length u go, just to cover for oyaks.

Joagbaje:

[size=16pt]The scripture you're quoting is primarily for Jews during the tribulation.[/size] The bible rather warns us of false brethren like you guys. On what ground are you attacking ministers .this is against what bible teaches .

Uncle Joe!!! Ehen, So you know not everything in scripture applies to the Christian, abi?? OMG

Keep this up. . . and soon I'll no longer miss Abuzola

GODSON2009

in other words,no proof

[size=16pt]With so many links on google relating to the matter, then there must be some element of truth to this matter. See google search resolve below:
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http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&xhr=t&q=pastors+in+freemason&cp=21&pq=pastors%20in%20freemason&pf=p&sclient=psy&rlz=1W1ADSA_en&source=hp&aq=0&aqi=&aql=&oq=%22pastors+in+freemason&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=44e99e206e621cd1&biw=1259&bih=814&bs=1