Jostoman:
This is also part of their strategy to de market any candidate that comes out to contest in 2023 most especially from opposition party and to also use it to gain sympathy from northerners. The region that is giving them serious headache now in APC concerning 2023 president is southeast so you guys should not give them the chance to use propaganda turn the people of southeast against IPOB because that is what they are trying to do now. so please keep calm till after the primary election.

You're not making any sense.

Paulheyman:


To know this isn't difficult
1) where exactly were the bodies recovered?
2) where exactly was the call location at both ends (killer vs parents)?
3) whose sim card was used (sims are registered and linked these days)?
4) if the killers phone number was used when last did they buy airtime? where did they buy it?

All these information are readily available. I need to quench my curiosity

Wise people like you are scarce sir.
And that is why we are in these mess

Rollsnjaguar:
I have been saying it in my previous post that Udele1/Oyigboupdate have a group of armed men in Southeast doing the killings and posting the videos to him on their WhatsApp group.

That's why, he has boosted severally that he is well connected.

He has a WhatsApp group, he once shared screenshot on this platform before.

The issue is people are not asking the right questions.

If Nigerians really want to know the truth of killings in Southeast, why not let's start by questioning udele/oyigboupdate.

During the Obigbo massacre, he was same person posting killings of Igbos in cold blood and he was rejoicing about it.

The threads are here.

Nigerians should be asking investigative questions.

This udele/oyigboupdate has proven that he has direct connection with the people recording those videos at the scene of each of those Killings.

If he really wants DSS or government to find the killers, why is he not exposing the guys that are always on ground to record each scene and sent to his WhatsApp group.

And why is DSS or Police or Soldiers not questioning udele/Oyigboupdate on how he is getting the videos directly.

IPOB behead soldier couples and sent the videos to udele/Oyigboupdate to post on Nairaland.

DSS should start by squeezing udele/Oyigboupdate to lead them to the person who records the videos, then from there pick the rest of them.

Which of the dss to arrest and question Udele/Oyigboupdate, the once in the game with him or the once outside the game?

The good thing there Is karma got the address of everybody...!!

We would all be hear to read about his own story and watch his own video too...!! This kind issue no dey ever tey to backfire...!!

Same people using him today would eventually be same people to sacrifice him and post his video via another channel to cover there track...!!

SenatePresdo:


How would you intend to know where it happened if the people that perpetrated this atrocity didn't say it in the video?

Ask Questions right ? Who would you ask where it happened since the killers didn't show their faces?

I hate myself for ever supporting those people.

They are saying Igbos in NA should resign, our politicians should first resign.

I will never have any reason to support illiterates again, a black man is very stupid, both the Military and the UGM.

Boko Haram kills, Boko Haram post video
ISWAP kills, ISWAP post video
Al Qaeda kills, Al Qaeda post video
Taliban kills, Taliban Post video
Hezbollah kill, Hezbollah make video

Then, Supposedly
IPOB kill, these your guys post video (both are not members nor affiliate members of IPOB)

Something isn't right. Men of intellectual standing demands answers. I appeal to you to join us and ask questions

Kpengla:


People are being murdered in savage ways yet all you rètards can talk about is propaganda...not one iota of humanity left inside your Ibo blood

oga forget this is the only strategy that those evil people can use to give IPOB bad name and to make them look bad in the eyes of southeast people and the world. Why is it that anytime election is coming that killing always rampant in southeast? It happens before 2019 election, it happen again before anambra election and the same thing has started happening again because election is coming.

Valkrie:


Which of the dss to arrest and question Udele/Oyigboupdate, the once in the game with him or the once outside the game?

The good thing there Is karma got the address of everybody...!!

We would all be hear to read about his own story and watch his own video too...!! This kind issue no dey ever tey to backfire...!!

Same people using him today would eventually be same people to sacrifice him and post his video via another channel to cover there track...!!

Karma simply means to "appeal to emotion". If those who sent him gets to him first, then we all have lost. That means someone with a useful Intel on the happenings in the south east have been wasted and we'll all be left in the dark once again. These cartel of killers will then continue in their heinous crime; this time around not in south east but other place. So, let's extract enough information from him, assure him of protection etc. Then, let the truth be known that's all I care for

Jostoman:
oga forget this is the only strategy that those evil people can use to give IPOB bad name and to make them look bad in the eyes of southeast people and world. Why is it that anytime election is coming that you killing always rampant in southeast

That's another angel to the debate. Why always during election. The likes of anti-Igbos always switch to pro sit at home folks during election period. The originator of these gory videos will start supporting sit at home during election. My question is why?

paramakina202:


Why didn't you pull this kind of campaign against Buhari becuase Bokoharam was mass bombing everybody in 2014 prior to general election?Look I am Igboman from Abia state but I hate IPOB and their method even before they became violent but that does not mean I will tolerate you saying bs against Igbo people.

That's what most people don't know. Not all Igbos are pro IPOB. Still, I don't know Igbos as people who kills for nothing. We most ask questions, who is protecting the posters of these videos? Why haven't the security/arm forces invited someone that has Intel on the activities of supposed group that FG declared terrorist organization. Why is he protected from questioning?

uBuNiT:
I remember the story of "MAN TURN TO VULTURE". That was 1997. Then, we in Enugu heard it happened somewhere in Aba. Those in Abia heard that it happened somewhere in Anambra. At the end, it was all fake news.

Likewise the story of two millitary couple heading to Imo.

We heard they were heading to Imo.
But:

1) Where exactly did the killing happened ?

2) How did the killers managed to spot them among commuters ?

3) In their private car ? Now, where is their car ?

Please we need to know the exact village this thing happened.
We are not saying it did not happened,
BUT WHERE EXACTLY ?



Trying to demonise IPOB won't work

My friend shut up

Joanosas2950:
Even if its true and u (Op) are right that its just a conspiracy against ipob/ugm/igbos . You guys ipob supporters are at fault for making the south east a north east in the making, boko haram started like this . You cant succeed in your ipob movement by creating a very conducive environment for conspirators to operate. You want to form a movement avoid violence, E.g Martin luther king or better enact change through politics but i guess you guys already bleeped dat up long time, no strong alliance. so now majority of Nigerians dont trust an igbo presidency and its not because u guys aren't capable of leading, you igbo are fucking brilliant and innovative but its just dat gut feeling of uncertainty. I mean with the current set of leaders at most we get bleeped financially and economically but we still have a country to our name, its shitty but its still ours, may be someday we might turn things around (A.I maybe) . Anyways the blood are still on your hands .the human brain collectively can be very small you know, so all dat detective, lawyer shit trying to get people to reason your way wont work. Ur so called conspirators (if they exist) have an edge , u guys gave dem dat. Make a video, chop some heads off ,speak small igbo , wear biafra logo and gbam you loose a thousand supporters. End game �. Me sef no like this union called Nigeria but we don enter ham ,we make it work or we die trying or even sef continue with our "e go better" slogan while taking no legal action . Catalonia, chechnya and so on want independence but it is wat it is. May be Nigerian is not working because we haven't done the simplest thing which is to learn to love one another and coexist peaceful. A black mans heart

I don't want to believe that these videos are a plot to discourage south east presidency because I can't understand the correlation between killing Igbos and presidency (maybe I am naive). Though, I've seen the originator of the gory videos and his friend mock Igbo presidency and support people whose opinion are against Igbo presidency but we're all entailed to our opinion

Paulheyman:


Boko Haram kills, Boko Haram post video
ISWAP kills, ISWAP post video
Al Qaeda kills, Al Qaeda post video
Taliban kills, Taliban Post video
Hezbollah kill, Hezbollah make video

Then, Supposedly
IPOB kill, these your guys post video (both are not members nor affiliate members of IPOB)

Something isn't right. Men of intellectual standing demands answers. I appeal to you to join us and ask questions

Who do we ask these questions?

The people that covered their faces?

Or the people they buried in a shallow grave at God knows where?

Could there be any cctv around?

Do our security agents Have what it takes to unravel it?

History555:


If there is proper investigations police should tell the public where it happened, on the way to imo is not a location. From kaduna to imo is thousands of km. Secondly why has the phone call not be traced, every call pings at a tower when its made. Why has the ip address of the person who released the video has not been traced. No investigations at all.

Does the place it happened actually matter?

Assuming it happened in Sokoto , what would it change.

SenatePresdo:


Who do we ask these questions?

The people that covered their faces?

Or the people they buried in a shallow grave at God knows where?

Could there be any cctv around?

Do our security agents Have what it takes to unravel it?

The key to solving this crime is the poster and originator of this video. He has many killing videos already. He knows too much to be walking freely without questioning. The military as a matter of urgency should invite him for questioning

But my question is....

Who was the first to post the video?

I guess he/she is the primary suspect

SenatePresdo:


Does the place it happened actually matter?

Assuming it happened in Sokoto , what would it change.

The poster of this video knows how he gets them. Let him be invited for questioning. He has a lot to tell the security and Nigerian armed forces. He needs to be investigated. He holds the key to solving this crime

Tonyman55:
But my question is....

Who was the first to post the video?

I guess he/she is the primary suspect

Nairaland is a repository of supposed IPOB killing videos holistically originating from two sources (individuals). The first video I watched here to my dismay is during Endsars protest. Let the armed forces start from nairaland. Every information they need is here already.

SenatePresdo:


Does the place it happened actually matter?

Assuming it happened in Sokoto , what would it change.

At all. IPOB can even kidnap students in Borno. See things I am sharing citizenship with

Creamypie:
see them saying that it was a coordinated attempt by federal government to demarket east against elections, they are gradually shifting from DSS/Fulani coordinated killings theory. PDP shouldn't bother fielding eastern candidate, even if peter obi would have bern d best president of nigeria. cos we south just drifted away from east after seeing the video and easterners cheering u.g.m at Ariaria market today. East don't even have votes... Less than 10 percent, thats if all registered voters vote, and for a particular candidate, yet they don't accommodate other tribes and parts, such as North, where only three of their 17 or so states cancel all eastern votes. Seeing that video has made us have disdain for easterners

Who's this "we south" "us" you keep talking Abeg? Stop disguising. Speak for yourself and family.

Have you hated northerners over the carnage they've carried out against southerners over the years? Have you finished hating northerners who killed southern youth corpers under buhari's directive because he lost a fairly conducted election?

Buhari's village has become a den of terrorists, who kill, kidnap and pillage on a daily. How much hate have you targeted to the perpetrators? It's the east now, they spoke "Igbo" so everyone suddenly has an opinion! Please keep your hypocritical mouth shut! Good thing many Nigerians don't think like you tueh!

I utterly condemn the act meted on that couple and I really hope the perpetrators are fished out and dealt with. What I won't accept, is rubbing the guilt of few, on a whole people. The OP raised salient points but emotional Nigerians won't see that.

1. Where did it happen?
2. Who did it? It's lazy policing to just say "IPOB did it ". What investigation and clues and geo mapping led to that conclusion?
3. What are the steps being taken to unravel the matter?

We need to begin to have a rational thinking process in Nigeria

Sweetplum:
Igbos ll v themselves to blame for the havoc of Igbos, UGM or whoever it is are now many.

They shield and cheer them on. I had seen videos of them clapping for these murders. . .
These known gunmen don't live in the sky. The people knew them.. But they forgot that was how boko haram started too

uBuNiT:
I remember the story of "MAN TURN TO VULTURE". That was 1997. Then, we in Enugu heard it happened somewhere in Aba. Those in Abia heard that it happened somewhere in Anambra. At the end, it was all fake news.

Likewise the story of two millitary couple heading to Imo.

We heard they were heading to Imo.
But:

1) Where exactly did the killing happened ?

2) How did the killers managed to spot them among commuters ?

3) In their private car ? Now, where is their car ?

Please we need to know the exact village this thing happened.
We are not saying it did not happened,
BUT WHERE EXACTLY ?



Trying to demonise IPOB won't work

It's ok.
Now you go ahead and do the findings .
Dora akunyilis husband was shot in the head,
Who shot him?
Who was there when it happened?
Was it actually a gun or knife that was used?

Dingbat

Paulheyman:


The key to solving this crime is the poster and originator of this video. He has many killing videos already. He knows too much to be walking freely without questioning. The military as a matter of urgency should invite him for questioning

UGM doesn't classify these videos.

They might have shared it on a WhatsApp group to show their fellow comrades.

And somehow it would leak.

What do you think it's the purpose of videoing it if not to share it?

I don't care whether if it's DSS 5th columnist or actual ESN members that did this, but I hate UGM for this.

If you see them operate in public, you will know they can do worse in Secret.

Why would they kill Inec officials giving out pvc?

If they are so in need to kill and actualize Biafra, what happened to our politicians, why don't they start with them if they have balls?

Why kill underdogs and innocent people expressing their rights?

The poster or whoever he is, isn't everywhere causing horror for my people.

Nothing is as dangerous as an illiterate man,,you see those people that beheaded a woman, they are illiterates and they are, ipob, ugm,esn, autopilot or dos, i don't care one thing i know is they will never know peace.

SenatePresdo:


UGM doesn't classify these videos.

They might have shared it on a WhatsApp group to show their fellow comrades.

And somehow it would leak.

What do you think it's the purpose of videoing it if not to share it?

I don't care whether if it's DSS 5th columnist or actual ESN members that did this, but I hate UGM for this.

If you see them operate in public, you will know they can do worse in Secret.

Why would they kill Inec officials giving out pvc?

If they are so in need to kill and actualize Biafra, what happened to our politicians, why don't they start with them if they have balls?

Why kill underdogs and innocent people expressing their rights?

The poster or whoever he is, isn't everywhere causing horror for my people.

We are saying the same thing. The person who benefits from a crime is a criminal. That's why we most first understand what each party stands to gain. What exactly is IPOB, FG, the poster of these videos, you and I stand to gain from the crime committed?.

If you say WhatsApp then, who're the members of these WhatsApp group. The poster of these videos on nairaland is instrumental to this. Is he a member of this your WhatsApp group? Even if he is not, who exactly from the said WhatsApp group forwards the videos to him? Though WhatsApp is end to end encrypted but through legal and other means this so called WhatsApp group can be known and prosecuted.

On classified content: the videos are totally classified information based on it's availability to only two individuals who are heavily present here. These informations are rare no one else has access to it apart from these two. They're the originator and distributors. They bring thes e videos to me and you. So, what do they stand to gain? In fact who is protecting them? What of the police, from his testimonies I believe he knows more than the videos he post here. He needs to be questioned. That video and the poster is the key we need to solve the crime

Let's do a comparative analysis
Assuming that whenever someone dies in your village a certain man has the full video, gist and all detailed information concerning the killings. All his information are first hand and probably authentic. Even before the security operatives report such death, he already parades with a video of the murder. I think from my analysis you understand why he should be summoned for questioning

Stay blessed

Nigeria must avenge those deaths with extreme prejudice.

Ipob is a terrorist group and must be treated like such.

In some countries, kanu would have been hanged almost immediately .

uBuNiT:
I remember the story of "MAN TURN TO VULTURE". That was 1997. Then, we in Enugu heard it happened somewhere in Aba. Those in Abia heard that it happened somewhere in Anambra. At the end, it was all fake news.

Likewise the story of two millitary couple heading to Imo.

We heard they were heading to Imo.
But:

1) Where exactly did the killing happened ?

2) How did the killers managed to spot them among commuters ?

3) In their private car ? Now, where is their car ?

Please we need to know the exact village this thing happened.
We are not saying it did not happened,
BUT WHERE EXACTLY ?



Trying to demonise IPOB won't work

Is this the first military personnel, police officers IPOB is killing? We have the location, etc of the others. What exactly is your point?

CSTRR:
Nigeria must avenge those deaths with extreme prejudice.

Ipob is a terrorist group and must be treated like such.

In some countries, kanu would have been hanged almost immediately .

Scientific knowledge is gotten through observation, experimentation, inference and conclusions.

I need you to ask specific questions about these videos and their sources. Who records these videos, my little voice analysis found a strong correlation between some of the videos the poster shared meaning same killer squad he publicize are responsible for most of the killings he shares here.

The only person who benefits from a crime is a criminal. What has he to gain from these crimes?

My good friend, this guys unlike Boko Haram don't carry out voice modifications. The poster and originator of these videos has to be invited for questioning. He publicize same killer squad. Think. The videos are there please download them and keep. Then run a voice analysis and you'll confirm my stand

Paulheyman:


Sorry to ask.

How did they get these videos? Who records it?, why do these video recordings always sent to a particular folk?, what's the reason behind the choice of this particular folk (what's his interest?). Many viewing this post as guest (including foreigners) and some registered members are really interested in questioning these guys.

I took my time and went through this folks post on this forum, he certainly has issues with Igbos in general and IPOB in particular (citation: Endsars protect).

To solve this crime scene, we must first understand the reason behind the choice of these folks as the sole distributors of these gory videos

If we could solve this crime, we can as well prevent it from happening elsewhere

How do bloggers get their news?
Most of you live in denial thinking you are fooling the world but at the end reality will set in.
You will declare sit at home but deny you are not the one that enforces sit at home order.
Few days ago group of UGM went to Ariaria Aba to warn them to observe sit at home because Buhari will be visiting Ebonyi state they were hailed by IPOB supporters but whenever army kill them automatically they will turn to innocent Igbo youths by IPOB online propagandist like gidggidy and IGBOSON1 etc....

Ìf igbos love ipob who I'm I to complain.

paramakina202:


How do bloggers get their news?
Most of you live in denial thinking you are fooling the world but at the end reality will set in.
You will declare sit at home but deny you are not the one that enforces sit at home order.
Few days ago group of UGM went to Ariaria Aba to warn them to observe sit at home because Buhari will be visiting Ebonyi state they were hailed by IPOB supporters but whenever army kill them automatically they will turn to innocent Igbo youths by IPOB online propagandist like gidggidy and IGBOSON1 etc....

We're saying the same thing. Every document has its source. So, for bloggers we can trace the person who sent the blogger the video. The analysis goes for the posters of these videos. What we know it that it originates from two people here. So, just as bloggers have their source, who are the source of the videos we have been watching here on nairaland. Who sends it to the poster. Only the poster has these videos, that's first hand information/document. That's my concern. IPOB apart. The only person who benefits from a crime is a criminal.

Paulheyman:


We're saying the same thing. Every document has its source. So, for bloggers we can trace the person who sent the blogger the video. The analysis goes for the posters of these videos. What we know it that it originates from two people here. So, just as bloggers have their source, who are the source of the videos we have been watching here on nairaland. Who sends it to the poster. Only the poster has these videos, that's first hand information/document. That's my concern. IPOB apart. The only person who benefits from a crime is a criminal.

Ask Udele his source of getting information I am not his spokesperson.

Owerri1stSon:


My friend shut up

Why abuse and insult?
Is this how Nigerians are trained?

Oyinboupdate = leader of unknown gun men