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Obamaofusa:
You dont seem to understand what most of you are saying.

SW laboured to form APC with the North just like you have always formed alliance with the North betraying your brothers in the SW since 1960. Even when Abiola won majorly in most states in Nigeria,the Igbos voted against him by majorly voting for Tofa and even plotted against Abiola using Kanu million man match.

Igbos formed PDP with the North hoping that the North will give presidency to them.Igbos have all the right to ask PDP to microzone presidency to their region.There are Yorubas in PDP but they are in the minority.

APC was formed by 3 or so govs from SW with the North.
SW had never been at the centre since 1960 and they intend doing that if APC wins.APC eventually defeated the PDP which Igbos voted for massively.
Igbos are a minority in APC.
Obasanjo has always been anti Yoruba,reason Igbos and the Hausas connived to bring him from prison to become the president of Nigeria.Ekwueme even participated against Obasanjo in the primaries.

The reality is that Igbos will do anything to destroy APC.

If PDP gives the presidential ticket to an Igboman and APC also does that then that is the end of APC because Igbos always vote for PDP.
Nobody in APC in his right mind will give the presidential ticket to an Igboman because it will be the end of APC.

Igbos just want to destroy APC.

Richard and Ogbonna ya onu were amongst the founding fathers. I am still waiting to see what any APC candidate will use to campaign.

mrvitalis:
Oga there is no pressure that has been the plan a along ...so what pressure are you talking about

Until south is united based on agreement north would keep ruling Nigeria

Ewu

Obamaofusa:
Is it not proper that all Southerners vying go for primaries like Ekwueme and Obasanjo did?

why are you always shifting the goal post

Obamaofusa:
You dont seem to understand what most of you are saying.

SW laboured to form APC with the North just like you have always formed alliance with the North betraying your brothers in the SW since 1960. Even when Abiola won majorly in most states in Nigeria,the Igbos voted against him by majorly voting for Tofa and even plotted against Abiola using Kanu million man match.

Igbos formed PDP with the North hoping that the North will give presidency to them.Igbos have all the right to ask PDP to microzone presidency to their region.There are Yorubas in PDP but they are in the minority.

APC was formed by 3 or so govs from SW with the North.
SW had never been at the centre since 1960 and they intend doing that if APC wins.APC eventually defeated the PDP which Igbos voted for massively.
Igbos are a minority in APC.
Obasanjo has always been anti Yoruba,reason Igbos and the Hausas connived to bring him from prison to become the president of Nigeria.Ekwueme even participated against Obasanjo in the primaries.

The reality is that Igbos will do anything to destroy APC.

If PDP gives the presidential ticket to an Igboman and APC also does that then that is the end of APC because Igbos always vote for PDP.
Nobody in APC in his right mind will give the presidential ticket to an Igboman because it will be the end of APC.

Igbos just want to destroy APC.

Because of desperation to clinch power , you guys are denying Obasanjo calling him anti - Yoruba .
The way you are analyzing this as if you are a true party man , forgetting we all know politics is a gain of interest.

You are passionately disguising your true intent . You don’t care about APC . You are singing their song because you feel , since they are in power , they have higher percentage to win back power in 2023 and if they field your man BAT , he will likely win .

You are not even for the Southern unity . Is there no founding APC members from South East ?

We have 6 geopolitical zones in Nigeria .
Kindly remind me since 1999 where these people that have ruled came from ( SE,SW,SS,NC,NE,NW ) ?
Presidents :
Obasanjo... 8 years
Yar’Adua... 2 years
Jonathan... 6 years
Buhari ... 7+ years.
Vice Presidents
Atiku...8 years
Jonathan... 2years
Sambo ... 6 years
Osinbajo... 7+... years .
If we are to use fairness and equity ( though power is taken not given ) , we should be considering any zone among the 6 that have not been in any capacities I mentioned above .

maiiilooo:
I think this year's primaries are going to be the toughest for both parties unlike past primary elections where we already know who's the party's candidate.

Probably the reason both APC and PDP are playing hide and seek
Nobody wants to make the wrong choice

The problem is APC and PDP are afraid to lose and this is because injustice is already laid and if not solved will snowball.

So they are on each other back not to make mistakes.
These are the injustice:
The yoruba want power in 2023 after all they have benefited
The north east and north central are like the south east in the south they have not produced president since 1999.

Allowing the yorubas to participate in the primary of APC is giving the northern reason to also vie for the presidency.

Had the whole south be working together the north will stay clear,but since the yoruba are on the race they are much interested in it.


The PDP know that the fastest way to get power is to feature a Northern because the believe APC will want to zone it to the south since buhari is already from the north.

Why the igbo is battling with the north in PDP to get the ticket.

At the end however I strongly believe one party will present a Northern and the other a Southern or both party will produce Northern

Dmacqh:
Because of desperation to clinch power , you guys are denying Obasanjo calling him anti - Yoruba .
The way you are analyzing this as if you are a true party man , forgetting we all know politics is a gain of interest.

You are passionately disguising your true intent . You don’t care about APC . You are singing their song because you feel , since they are in power , they have higher percentage to win back power in 2023 and if they field your man BAT , he will likely win .

You are not even for the Southern unity . Is there no founding APC members from South East ?

We have 6 geopolitical zones in Nigeria .
Kindly remind me since 1999 where these people that have ruled came from ( SE,SW,SS,NC,NE,NW ) ?
Presidents :
Obasanjo... 8 years
Yar’Adua... 2 years
Jonathan... 6 years
Buhari ... 7+ years.
Vice Presidents
Atiku...8 years
Jonathan... 2years
Sambo ... 6 years
Osinbajo... 7+... years .
If we are to use fairness and equity ( though power is taken not given ) , we should be considering any zone among the 6 that have not been in any capacities I mentioned above .

I have said it that is it Obasanjo that you imposed on us that you are saying Yorubas used 16 years?
You are all hypocrites.Who were the people he majorly put in his govt?
He brought Okonjo,Soludo etc and you still say he is representing Yoruba when you were the ones that brought him from prison to spite Yoruba after you have killed Abiola.
Yorubas rejected him because they know that he is anti Yoruba.
Whatever happens,God is in control.

collinsonsky:
why are you always shifting the goal post

What do you mean?
Are you saying that you dont want to go to primaries?

Obamaofusa:
I have said it that is it Obasanjo that you imposed on us that you are saying Yorubas used 16 years?
You are all hypocrites.Who were the people he majorly put in his govt?
He brought Okonjo,Soludo etc and you still say he is representing Yoruba when you were the ones that brought him from prison to spite Yoruba after you have killed Abiola.
Yorubas rejected him because they know that he is anti Yoruba.
Whatever happens,God is in control.

Oga no SW candidate will win in 2023.The rest of the south will make sure that never happens

emmykk:
The problem is APC and PDP are afraid to lose and this is because injustice is already laid and if not solved will snowball.

So they are on each other back not to make mistakes.
These are the injustice:
The yoruba want power in 2023 after all they have benefited
The north east and north central are like the south east in the south they have not produced president since 1999.

Allowing the yorubas to participate in the primary of APC is giving the northern reason to also vie for the presidency.

Had the whole south be working together the north will stay clear,but since the yoruba are on the race they are much interested in it.


The PDP know that the fastest way to get power is to feature a Northern because the believe APC will want to zone it to the south since buhari is already from the north.

Why the igbo is battling with the north in PDP to get the ticket.

At the end however I strongly believe one party will present a Northern and the other a Southern or both party will produce Northern

Allowing the yorubas to participate in the primary of APC is giving the northern reason to also vie for the presidency.

This up there does not make any sense.Did Ekwueme not go to the primaries against Obasanjo while the Northerners abstained?

Why will this one be different.Is that not a blackmail?

cktheluckyman:
Oga no SW candidate will win in 2023.The rest of the south will make sure that never happens

You are a hypocrite and also are all of you that want the hands of everybody tied while they give you tickets of PDP and APC,the ewedu and amala party that you hate so much.

Equity and justice is going to the primaries just like Ekwueme and Obasanjo did.
Anything out of that is cheating and blackmailing Nigerians.

cktheluckyman:
Oga no SW candidate will win in 2023.The rest of the south will make sure that never happens

This is in the hands of God.We are just but humans.Pencil in the hands of the Omnipotent.He disposes.

mrvitalis:
So south east determine who wins Nigeria ?
Did obj win south west ?
Did yaradua win north west ?

You always sound incoherent.
You want APC and PDP to field an Igboman.
Are they going to go for primaries like Ekwueme and Obasanjo did while the Northerners abstain or not?

The strong contenders are still what they are. It won't change anything. The strong contenders in the APC are already from the south, so no need to even talk about zoning.

Obamaofusa:
I have said it that is it Obasanjo that you imposed on us that you are saying Yorubas used 16 years?
You are all hypocrites.Who were the people he majorly put in his govt?
He brought Okonjo,Soludo etc and you still say he is representing Yoruba when you were the ones that brought him from prison to spite Yoruba after you have killed Abiola.
Yorubas rejected him because they know that he is anti Yoruba.
Whatever happens,God is in control.

Did those he brought into power performed for Nigeria or S/E ? Did they perform ?
So Yorubas are denying Obasanjo as their son because of the aspiration of BAT ? This is interesting.
Igbos killed Abiola ? Really ? Maybe Igbo man was incharge of federal government when his election was annulled , his imprisonments and other things that followed .
All these after SW betrayed Jonathan. Saboteurs. Why didn’t you answer my questions ? Because you can’t twist facts ?
If we are after Southern presidency , let equity and fairness prevail. Let the regions that have not produced President or Vice rule this time .
Since other regions are ruling, things are getting worse . Let us try a South Easterner .
God is in control . All the grammar you wrote aren’t necessary. Answer my questions. State facts as it is . I believe you are learned.

Who is pressurizing them ? They better get their heads examined if they still want this country together.. .

Obamaofusa:
Allowing the yorubas to participate in the primary of APC is giving the northern reason to also vie for the presidency.

This up there does not make any sense.Did Ekwueme not go to the primaries against Obasanjo while the Northerners abstained?

Why will this one be different.Is that not a blackmail?

MKO death made the northern leaders to support obj over Alex Ekweme a form of appeasement for the south west.

What am telling you in the first instance is this there are six geopolitical in Nigeria.
South west,south south and North west have already produce president leaving the north east,north central and south east.

The north already felt cheated by 6 six years of GEJ for Buhari is just doing obj time.

So in the north the north east and central are like south east of the south.

Now they are happy that the south west who already produce a president ,VP and a speaker is in the race too they will use that or are using that to contest too.

You will not get what I m saying untill after the primaries and main election.

If Buhari is not allow to present his consensus candidate or he allowed an open election there is no way a Southern will get APC ticket and ATIKU is 100times ahead of any candidate in PDP because all the northern PDP delegates will delever him.

I m not against the yoruba not to contest but their action is a booster to the north.

You expect a north to be on queue to wait in turn and when is in the south one region will be enjoying it.That is not fair to them and they can openly voice it rather they snatched it and it will look like it is because we are divided in the south

They are working

Echoban:
Sharap. Everytime north this and that. Oya who in the north is contesting under APC? Ur emotional wish not coming to pass.

U really wish El Rufai, Ganduje, Masari, Zulum and co declare intentions just to taint SW in ur cheap mind. sorry bro
They don't play Igbo bitter politics.

Open or not, APC is for SW.

You are a yorubaman, naturally wired to deceive and dribble yourself until you fall yakata!

cktheluckyman:
Oga no SW candidate will win in 2023.The rest of the south will make sure that never happens

Who are the rest of the South

emmykk:
MKO death made the northern leaders to support obj over Alex Ekweme a form of appeasement for the south west.

What am telling you in the first instance is this there are six geopolitical in Nigeria.
South west,south south and North west have already produce president leaving the north east,north central and south east.

The north already felt cheated by 6 six years of GEJ for Buhari is just doing obj time.

So in the north the north east and central are like south east of the south.

Now they are happy that the south west who already produce a president ,VP and a speaker is in the race too they will use that or are using that to contest too.

You will not get what I m saying untill after the primaries and main election.

If Buhari is not allow to present his consensus candidate or he allowed an open election there is no way a Southern will get APC ticket and ATIKU is 100times ahead of any candidate in PDP because all the northern PDP delegates will delever him.

I m not against the yoruba not to contest but their action is a booster to the north.

You expect a north to be on queue to wait in turn and when is in the south one region will be enjoying it.That is not fair to them and they can openly voice it rather they snatched it and it will look like it is because we are divided in the south

They are working

The simple problems Igbos have always had are greediness and covetousness.

Answer these simple facts and stop going in circles....

1.After the death of Abiola,who was the candidate of the Yorubas that you all wanted to pacify?

2.Who brought Obasanjo from prison?

3.Did the Yorubas vote for Obasanjo?

4.Was Obasanjo just given the ticket on a platter of gold?

5.Who contested against him in the primaries....Northerner or Southerner?
Is he an Igbo man or South Southerner?

.6.Have the Igbos even been president of Nigeria before?

7.How many times?

8.Has there ever been anytime presidency has been determined without going to the primaries?

9.Has there ever been microzoning in Nigeria before?

10.Are you going to massively vote for APC and leave PDP even when you have another illustrious son on PDP ticket?

emmykk:
The problem is APC and PDP are afraid to lose and this is because injustice is already laid and if not solved will snowball.

So they are on each other back not to make mistakes.
These are the injustice:
The yoruba want power in 2023 after all they have benefited
The north east and north central are like the south east in the south they have not produced president since 1999.

Allowing the yorubas to participate in the primary of APC is giving the northern reason to also vie for the presidency.

Had the whole south be working together the north will stay clear,but since the yoruba are on the race they are much interested in it.


The PDP know that the fastest way to get power is to feature a Northern because the believe APC will want to zone it to the south since buhari is already from the north.

Why the igbo is battling with the north in PDP to get the ticket.

At the end however I strongly believe one party will present a Northern and the other a Southern or both party will produce Northern

Injustice for Yoruba to contest Primary in APC
You guys are just too emotional.

In 1999, the northern blocks in APC wanted to compensate Yorubas because of Abiola 1993 saga but guess what, Igbos in PDP contested the primary with Obasanjo and Yorubas did not scream injustice. You guys are double standard hypocrites.

Dmacqh:
Did those he brought into power performed for Nigeria or S/E ? Did they perform ?
So Yorubas are denying Obasanjo as their son because of the aspiration of BAT ? This is interesting.
Igbos killed Abiola ? Really ? Maybe Igbo man was incharge of federal government when his election was annulled , his imprisonments and other things that followed .
All these after SW betrayed Jonathan. Saboteurs. Why didn’t you answer my questions ? Because you can’t twist facts ?
If we are after Southern presidency , let equity and fairness prevail. Let the regions that have not produced President or Vice rule this time .
Since other regions are ruling, things are getting worse . Let us try a South Easterner .
God is in control . All the grammar you wrote aren’t necessary. Answer my questions. State facts as it is . I believe you are learned.

Anytime I see the bolded in anybody's comment, I just assume that the person is very slow and have little or no knowledge of politics.

How on earth will a grown up adult call political schemings/calculations betrayals!

Politics is really alien to your region. Only noise and hate una sabi.

emmykk:
MKO death made the northern leaders to support obj over Alex Ekweme a form of appeasement for the south west.

What am telling you in the first instance is this there are six geopolitical in Nigeria.
South west,south south and North west have already produce president leaving the north east,north central and south east.

The north already felt cheated by 6 six years of GEJ for Buhari is just doing obj time.

So in the north the north east and central are like south east of the south.

Now they are happy that the south west who already produce a president ,VP and a speaker is in the race too they will use that or are using that to contest too.

You will not get what I m saying untill after the primaries and main election.

If Buhari is not allow to present his consensus candidate or he allowed an open election there is no way a Southern will get APC ticket and ATIKU is 100times ahead of any candidate in PDP because all the northern PDP delegates will delever him.

I m not against the yoruba not to contest but their action is a booster to the north.

You expect a north to be on queue to wait in turn and when is in the south one region will be enjoying it.That is not fair to them and they can openly voice it rather they snatched it and it will look like it is because we are divided in the south

They are working

While your first statement is so true, the question is, did Ekwueme in PDP then step down for Obasanjo? The answer is a big NO. The reason is because he believed he also had a chance. So how is Yoruba contesting APC primary an injustice to the east in the same party they joined to form few years ago?

Alexis11:
While your first statement is so true, the question is, did Ekwueme in PDP then step down for Obasanjo? The answer is a big NO. The reason is because he believed he also had a chance. So how is Yoruba contesting APC primary an injustice to the east in the same party they joined to form few years ago?

I didn't say it is an injustice but a booster for the north to snatch the presidency

emmykk:
I didn't say it is an injustice but a booster for the north to snatch the presidency

Well if you think it is a booster for the North to snatch presidency, it's your opinion and I don't intend changing it.

But I don't see a Northerner defeating Tinubu in the forthcoming primary.

Alexis11:
Anytime I see the bolded in anybody's comment, I just assume that the person is very slow and have little or no knowledge of politics.

How on earth will a grown up adult call political schemings/calculations betrayals!

Politics is really alien to your region. Only noise and hate una sabi.

Igbos are too greedy that they do not see anything bad in their greediness.

Even in the 60s when they killed every tribe to become head of state,it is all fair.

When they voted massively against Abiola even when other regions voted for him,it is fair and they did not betray anybody now.

When they killed Hausa leaders who supported them,it is not betrayal.It is fair.

When they voted for Tofa that they barely knew against a Yorubaman,it is fair.
Yorubas gave Jonathan 45% and Buhari 55% but it is too much now.... against Igbos giving Abiola 5% and Tofa 95%.Results are on the internet for perusal.

When Ekwueme contested against Obasanjo even when Northerners abstained,it is Ekwueme's constitutional right to do so now.

When Igbos do something evil and unbecoming,it should be overlooked because they are todddlers,mumus or what?

Nothing satisfies the Igbos and they are mostly hypocrites.

All that is happening to them is called Karma.
They are still planning evil that always boomrangs on them.
God is the Omnipresent.

Alexis11:
Well if you think it is a booster for the North to snatch presidency, it's your opinion and I don't intend changing it.

But I don't see a Northerner defeating Tinubu in the forthcoming primary.

Is ok

Alexis11:
Anytime I see the bolded in anybody's comment, I just assume that the person is very slow and have little or no knowledge of politics.

How on earth will a grown up adult call political schemings/calculations betrayals!

Politics is really alien to your region. Only noise and hate una sabi.

Ok Sir. We don’t know politics. You won’t address the points that didn’t favour you. Whatever name or grammar you like , call it ...Political Scheming/Calculation just own up your backstabbing. After all the backstabbing was calculated to be in your interest .
Answer my questions in the first quote . Stop digressing with arguments . They are straightforward questions , that need , Yes or No . All this composition to confuse me can’t change the facts .

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