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Beautygoddesss:
most of laws in the OT were changed by jesus except for a few like the 10 commandment and tithes among others.The laws in the old testament were to guide the israelites during their stay in the wilderness.like this law that when a woman sees her period it makes her unclean so she does not go to church but now u can go.GOD looks at the heart of a man.jews and gentiles are now brought under one umbrella with GOD as their father.also during the israelites sojourn there were no gentiles wanting to convert to jesus.it was when jesus came that gentiles began to convert

Jesus said in Matthew 5:17 Don’t misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose.

And Jesus was not a fan of Gentiles. They are dogs!
Jesus said, "I was sent only to the people of Israel! [/b]Matthew 15:24

This is the reason Jesus refused healing the Gentile woman's daughter in Matthew 15:21-28
He later healed here when it was proven she had faith! [b](Gentiles are Dogs, Israelites Children)

Then Jesus left Galilee and went north to the region of Tyre and Sidon. 22 A Gentile[a] woman who lived there came to him, pleading, “Have mercy on me, O Lord, Son of David! For my daughter is possessed by a demon that torments her severely.”

But Jesus gave her no reply, not even a word. Then his disciples urged him to send her away. “Tell her to go away,” they said. “She is bothering us with all her begging.”

Then Jesus said to the woman, “I was sent only to help God’s lost sheep—the people of Israel.”

But she came and worshiped him, pleading again, “Lord, help me!”

Jesus responded, “It isn’t right to take food from the children and throw it to the dogs.”

She replied, “That’s true, Lord, but even dogs are allowed to eat the scraps that fall beneath their masters’ table.”

“Dear woman,” Jesus said to her, “your faith is great. Your request is granted.” And her daughter was instantly healed.

FERNANDEZISBACK:
Confused religious extremist killing and stressing themself all because of an heavenly race and imaginary creature that is no where..

You are an ignorant idiot.U are irreligious,what brought u here?

@ANTICHRIS
we are aLL GOD'S CHILDREN.YES JESUS DID THAT TO TEST HER FAITH BUT THE APOSTLES WERE THE ONES WHO STARTED D MINISTRY OF CONVERTING GENTILES A WORK JESUS PERSONALLY SENT THEM IN MATT 28:19:GO YE THEREFORE AND TEACH ALL NATIONS(BOTH JEWS AND GENTILES)BAPTIZING THEM IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER,SON AND HOLYGHOST.EVEN THIS MAN CORNELIUS THAT AN ANGEL APPEARED TO TELLING HIM OF THE COMING OF PAUL WAS NOT A JEW

@antichrist
WE ARE ALL GOD'S CHILDREN.THE WORK OF CONVERTING GENTILES WAS GIVEN TO THE APOSTLES BY JESUS IN MATT 28:19 GO YE INTO THE WORLD AND PREACH TO ALL NATIONS(BTH JEWS AND GENTILES)BAPTIZING THEM IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER,SON AND HOLYGHOST.EVEN CORNELIUS WAS NOT A JEW BUT WAS A CHRISTIAN TO THE POINT THAT AN ANGEL CAME TO HIM TELLING HIM ABOUT PAUL'S COMING

AntiChristian:
Jesus quoted many old testament laws

1. It is written "Man shall not live by bread alone.... Deut. 8:3....Jesus quoted it in Matt 4:4.

2. Jesus replied, “It is also written: ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test. Matt 4;7 from Exo. 17:2 and Deut. 6:16

3. “Away from Me, Satan!” Jesus declared. “For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God and serve Him only.’” Matt 4:10 quoted from Exo 23:25 & Deut. 6:13, 10:20

4. Hear O Israel, the LORD our God is one. Mark 12 :19 was from Deut. 6:4

5. Ye are gods John 10:34 was from Psalm 82:6

6. Eli Eli lama sabachthani Matt 27:44 was from Psalms 22:1

So the Biblical Jesus was a Jew who quoted the Old testament very much!

So should you put on trousers?

for me yes.d bible did nt condemn it only condemn indecency.there are decent and indecent trousers so as christians we wear decent clothes8)

ObamaMessi:
You are an ignorant idiot.U are irreligious,what brought u here?

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ObamaMessi:
You are an ignorant idiot.U are irreligious,what brought u here?

Slide off little boy...

AntiChristian:
Jesus quoted many old testament laws

1. It is written "Man shall not live by bread alone.... Deut. 8:3....Jesus quoted it in Matt 4:4.

2. Jesus replied, “It is also written: ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test. Matt 4;7 from Exo. 17:2 and Deut. 6:16

3. “Away from Me, Satan!” Jesus declared. “For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God and serve Him only.’” Matt 4:10 quoted from Exo 23:25 & Deut. 6:13, 10:20

4. Hear O Israel, the LORD our God is one. Mark 12 :19 was from Deut. 6:4

5. Ye are gods John 10:34 was from Psalm 82:6

6. Eli Eli lama sabachthani Matt 27:44 was from Psalms 22:1

So the Biblical Jesus was a Jew who quoted the Old testament very much!

So should you put on trousers?

i know that's why i said some laws are no longer used not all.besides there are promises in the ot which we use to pray

FERNANDEZISBACK:
Slide off little boy...

Will you ges LOST? Illitracy of the highest order.What brought you into the religious section if not stupidity and the willingness to unleash ur unreasoble childish mind? Anywhere i see u degrading religioun u will be in for it.Lunatic!

ObamaMessi:
Will you ges LOST? Illitracy of the highest order.What brought you into the religious section if not stupidity and the willingness to unleash ur unreasoble childish mind? Anywhere i see u degrading religioun u will be in for it.Lunatic!

Slide off little boy..say this when you stop feeding from momma's pot..

FERNANDEZISBACK:
Slide off little boy..say this when you stop feeding from momma's pot..

This exactly what i expect from a dunce who knows nothing about atheism but claim to be one.Foolish old man.

ObamaMessi:
This exactly what i expect from a dunce who knows nothing about atheism but claim to be one.Foolish old man.

Why crying huh?
Hurts so much?
Well how do you feel after spamming the whole place with your hate against women on your other moniker..
Give me reason why i should take a 17 yr old underage kid Serious?

Beautygoddesss:
Aa so do u say that we should not follow the 10 commandments?? Also there are laws in d old testament that jesus also said we should eg-tithes

There's nothing that concerns a Christian with any laws God gave the Israelites whether 10, 50 or 1,000.
Christians are to focus on imitating a perfect model who is the image of God: Jesus Christ!
Of course the Israelites needed those laws to help them cope with standards and principles which the Christ will establish, that's why God gave them those laws and warned them never to rely so much on those laws and start arguing with the perfect model He (God) will send to them! Deuteronomy 18:18-19

The laws God gave the Israelites could be likened to a mirror through which you can see how dirty or unkept you look but Jesus is like the cleanser in whose office there's a perfect camera that can capture all your body parts.

So if someone knew Jesus Christ and starts going back to the laws it's like you have the best cleanser with his camera but still insisting on checking the old mirror to verify your outfit. Galatians 3:19-25
By so doing you won't be able to move because you will continue doubting whether you're OK or not. That's why there are several sects all claiming denominations in Christendom with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines and none of them is doing the lord's job apart from Jehovah's Witnesses!

FERNANDEZISBACK:
Why crying huh?
Hurts so much?
Well how do you feel after spamming the whole place with your hate against women on your other moniker..
Give me reason why i should take a 17 yr old underage kid Serious?

Which of my other moniker? I'm not expecting so much from a lunatic.An old fool fighting with a kid he is old enough to father irresponsible.I forbid it taa! A low iq dog can't hurt me.

ObamaMessi:
Which of my other moniker? I'm not expecting so much from a lunatic.An old fool fighting with a kid he is old enough to father irresponsible.I forbid it taa! A low iq dog can't hurt me.

Ok sir..

Beautygoddesss:
it seems u dont know that the laws of the moses are no longer applied apart from the 10 commandment.we now follow d teachings of jesus in the new testament

Three facts you ought you seem unaware of.

▪︎ All of God's Laws are eternal - Heaven and Earth will pass away but God's Law never passes... meaning the Old Covenant Law of Moses which God gave ONLY to the Jewish people as Law in the Land of Israel is still in effect even to this very day for all non-Christian Jews.

▪︎ All of God’s Laws are immutable meaning no man has authority to add, change or remove Commandments from God's Law. There are about 613 Commandments in God's Old Covenant Law of Moses, not 10. God never changed His mind about the 613 so to this very day there are stil about 613 Commandments in that Law

▪︎ God never welcomed Gentiles into His Old Covenant which, again, He made only with the Jewish people. So when you, as a Gentile, pretend to follow the laws in that Covenant, including those you refer to as the 10 Commandments, you sin against God who instead gave to you His New Covenant, Jesus Christ and commanded that you obey that alone.

Beautygoddesss:
Plz this has been a huge bother to me some churches allow it and some dont.the bible did not condemn it.it only condemns indecency.so is wearing trousers to the church indecent.share your opinions

No it isn't. Just dress decently.

Beautygoddesss:
it was in the old testament and before jesus coming that the above rule prevailed.now any one can come to christ cuz GOD does not want anyman to perish

I am afraid that is not true at all. God's Old Covenant which He never included you and I in, still exists to this day. Jesus Christ warned you of this when He told you that He did not come to abolish God's Law.... God's Laws are eternal!

Beautygoddesss:
that's in the old testament most of the laws in the old testament have been rendered useless by jesus that law to only jews no longer exist cuz christian gentiles came in the era of the apostles.so i just read that scripture are abraham,isaac and jacob not the fathers of faith.we all claim to be their children by faith where d place u say d law excludes the gentiles

Again, Jesus Christ never rendered any of God's Laws useless.... He instead warned you that Heaven and Earth will pass away but not even a jot of God's Law will ever pass away or be rendered useless, not even by Him.

So whoever lied to you that most of the laws in God's Old Covenant have been rendered useless is a deceiver and a liar. Either that or it is that you believe God and Jesus Christ lives instead.

God never told you Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are the fathers of your faith. Men fed you that lie, not God. Even when Jesus Christ taught His disciples, He upheld God's separation of the Jews from the Gentiles, this until after His Death when He threw the gates of the Kingdom of God open to the Gentile world.

Dreamswayne:
Deuteronomy 22:5 outrightly condemns it, but you'd have to ask who actually discerns what's a male and what's a female apparel...

If you 100% believe in the bible, then yes it's a sin but your bible also encouraged slavery and depicted a blood sucking creator...

Pick your poison, lol

Deuteronomy 22:5 you quoted was not written to Christians. It was directed to the Jews. Besides, at the time it was written, men wore skirts and not trousers.

More importantly, these laws of Moses has been abolished. So, even those it was directed to are no longer under obligations to keep them.

Beautygoddesss:
@ANTICHRIS
1. we are aLL GOD'S CHILDREN.

2. YES JESUS DID THAT TO TEST HER FAITH BUT THE APOSTLES WERE THE ONES WHO STARTED D MINISTRY OF CONVERTING GENTILES A WORK JESUS PERSONALLY SENT THEM IN MATT 28:19:GO YE THEREFORE AND TEACH ALL NATIONS(BOTH JEWS AND GENTILES)BAPTIZING THEM IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER,SON AND HOLYGHOST.EVEN THIS MAN CORNELIUS THAT AN ANGEL APPEARED TO TELLING HIM OF THE COMING OF PAUL WAS NOT A JEW

1. This is wrong! We are not all of us Children of God. Instead we are all of us born sons of men.

Those who go on to become Children of God are instead those who through submission and obedience of God's New Covenant and Law in the Kingdom of God, Jesus Christ, come to Know the Truth and are then set free by the Truth from slavery to sin, to be transformed into Sons of God, Holy/Perfect vessels for God's Spirit to inhabit.

2. Wrong! Jesus Christ stated a fact which she herself acknowledged as Truth. The reasons the apostles were able to preach the Gospel after His Death to the unsave in the world is because Jesus Christ sent them to doing so. The Kingdom of God He meant for Jews and Gentiles alike.

Beautygoddesss:
i know that's why i said some laws are no longer used not all.besides there are promises in the ot which we use to pray

Again, This is wrong thinking! To a Jewish person who does not believe in Jesus Christ, the God's Law of Moses remains just as alive and well even to eternity.

To a Gentile, the only Law God has is His New Covenant and Law, Jesus Christ.

AntiChristian:
Were Noah and Abraham Jews?

Ofcourse not!

AntiChristian:
So which law did your God made specifically for the Gentiles or did He leave them lawless in the OT?

God didn't make any Law only for the Gentiles...there was no need for that. HIS Law, Jesus Christ, covers all those born Jews and Gentiles alike and it is a different and separate Law from His Old Law which only applied to the Nation of Israel aka Jews.

Beautygoddesss:
yes but most of the laws in the old testament have been cancelled especially on the sermon on the mount in mattew 5,6 and 7

God never canceled any of His Laws.... Jesus Christ told you in Matthew 5 that not a Jot of God's Law can be changed or canceled... it is eternal. Instead what Jesus Christ told you is that He came to give you a new Yoke and burden... a New Law - Matthew 11 vs 28 - 30

Beautygoddesss:
then what about the new testament jesus gave new laws most in contradictory to the old testament.for example the law of moses states that an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth but jesus denounced that law if any man strike u on ur left cheek turn d right cheek for that person. When u see this,will u still say we shud follow d old laws and besides we are d children of israel by faith

The New Law does not contradict the Old Law this since they are different and different Laws entirely.

■ The Old Covenant Law, YHWH, was given by God to the children of Israel as the Constitution for the Nation of Israel which He formed in the Land of Canaan
■ God's New Covenant, Jesus Christ, is given by God to both Jews and Gentiles like as individual Constitution for living in the Kingdom of God, a Kingdom not of this world.

Kobojunkie:
God didn't make any Law only for the Jews...there was no need for that. HIS Law, Jesus Christ, covers all those born Jews and Gentiles alike and it is a different and separate Law from His Old Law which only applied to the Nation of Israel aka Jews.

So why did Jesus say to the Gentile woman that he was not sent but to the lost sheep of Israel?

And ended up calling Gentiles Dogs and Israel Children!

Kobojunkie:
Again, Jesus Christ never rendered any of God's Laws useless.... He instead warned you that Heaven and Earth will pass away but not even a jot of God's Law will ever pass away or be rendered useless, not even by Him.

So whoever lied to you that most of the laws in God's Old Covenant have been rendered useless is a deceiver and a liar. Either that or it is that you believe God and Jesus Christ lives instead.

God never told you Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are the fathers of your faith. Men fed you that lie, not God. Even when Jesus Christ taught His disciples, He upheld God's separation of the Jews from the Gentiles, this until after His Death when He threw the gates of the Kingdom of God open to the Gentile world.

then why is God called the. God of abraham,isaac and jacob

I will no longer argue with anyone here there are many doctrinal issues that cuz debate so I won't argue any longer if u like obey the laws or not it's none of my business christianity is a personal race shalom

AntiChristian:
So why did Jesus say to the Gentile woman that he was not sent but to the lost sheep of Israel?

And ended up calling Gentiles Dogs and Israel Children!

I already explained this particular case to you more than once. The answer is the same no matter how many times you ask it.

Kobojunkie:
I already explained this particular case to you more than once. The answer is the same no matter how many times you ask it.

it was to test her faith, and the ministry of converting gentiles is to the apostles in mattew 28:19

Beautygoddesss:
then why is God called the. God of abraham,isaac and jacob

God existed long before Abraham, Isaac and Jacob did, I am afraid.