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Khalsss:
the time Muhammad spoke the passage he had enough power to dominate and crush the remaining Pagan tribes within the Hijaz, so he used it. He used his ever growing power and placed his rough noose of Islam around their necks. Pagans were forced to join Islam or die. This is not self defense.

Some observations:

Muhammad was the aggressor (9:2, 3, 5), this passage is an edict for war. Muhammad gave instructions to his followers to defend if attacked, but to also go out and attack all Pagans once the sacred months were completed.
Muhammad was a truce breaker. The Pagans did not break all the truces. Muhammad claimed that God gave him a "revelation" allowing him to lie and break his word, i.e. the truces, stated in 9:1: "A declaration of immunity from God and His apostle to the idolaters with whom you have made agreements", and described as "A discharge came down, permitting the breaking of the agreement between the apostle and the polytheists". The materials state that it was Muhammad who broke all truces except those few he had with specific tribes or individuals for a limited time. When the sacred months were ended, those truces would also end. Muhammad would now be at war with all polytheistic tribes including those who had been peaceful. Had the Pagans broken the truces there would be no need for Muhammad to get a revelation to break them for they would already have been broken. Further, the Pagans were weak and demoralized and they were not about to start a war with the mighty Muhammad. Also note that Muhammad did not make an effort to renew the truce with the peaceful tribes, rather he initiated a state of war.
Muhammad used compulsion to force people to convert to Islam: 9:5, "…If they repent and take to prayer and render the alms levy, allow them to go their way.". The verse describes conversion to Islam. The Pagans were going to be murdered if they did not convert. People tend to define religious conversion at the point of the sword as "compulsion."
Muhammad commanded murder and terrorism for Islam, 9:5, 6, "When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them", described as "one of those whom I have ordered you to kill,"…. Once the sacred months ended it was open season on the Pagans. They were going to be attacked, hounded, ambushed, captured, terrorized, and murdered by the Muslims. Muslim terrorists today do what this verse commands.

So don't tell me it was a defensive war bullsht

go and do your research very well .this is the same story May your pastors formulated .

Khalsss:
Well, the people have refused to let seemingly peaceful nation be. They keep spreading terror and history has it that's the way the religion spreads, terror and procreation.

Understand me, there are loads of peace loving Muslims but without doubt they're going contrary to what the Koran clearly teaches. The criticism is on the Koran and the extremist and the dishonest Muslim who wants to cover the truth. Not the genuinely ignorant bunch.

. Muhammad promoted religious war. The Koran promotes religious war. We just call a spade a spade and you are obviously uncomfortable

where in the Quran do you have that ?

[quote author=rexxyjosh post=106729859][/quote]from where you hear muslim suffer in china?

googlepikins:
Ok go there and see how Muslims are looked in camps until they deny Mohammed is a criminal before they will be released. Search YouTube bro

go to live in china and see by your own eyes.

why would i trust YouTube ?

adm212144:
where in the Quran do you have that ?

everywhere in the Koran, mumu. I have a Koran I have read through and you can't come talking with your white wash trash

Khalsss:
everywhere in the Koran, mumu. I have a Koran I have read through and you can't come talking with your white wash trash

who be Mumu here ,where in the Koran .must you tarnish Quran ,must you talk bad about other peoples religion .if you don’t have work or sensible enough to talk keep quite .useless fellow

adm212144:
who be Mumu here ,where in the Koran .must you tarnish Quran ,must you talk bad about other peoples religion .if you don’t have work or sensible enough to talk keep quite .useless fellow

every where is everywhere. Over 167 clear violent passages. The Quran tarnished itself. Anybody can go pick it up and read for themselves. No sane person will think that's a religion of peace after going through it

Khalsss:
Ofcourse not, the permit to kill in the Koran goes beyond just christians and Jews.

Christians are killed, Jews are killed, idol worshipers are killed, apostates are killed, atheists are killed. Believers who looks like they'll become unbelievers are killed. Homosexuals are killed, Fornicators are killed. Adulterers are killed, say anything against the prophet you are killed. Blasphemers are killed. The list goes on...

where in your own Koran do you read this ?

Khalsss:
every where is everywhere. Over 167 clear violent passages. The Quran tarnished itself. Anybody can go pick it up and read for themselves. No sane person will think that's a religion of peace after going through it

where ?

Khalsss:
everywhere in the Koran, mumu. I have a Koran I have read through and you can't come talking with your white wash trash

what Surah verses ?God has really bless Islam .simply the best ,everyone of you should ant to use Islam to chase clout .talk about other religion .You were never liked by the Jew you claimed to be your brother .They don’t even believe in your jesus as much as the Muslim do and yet you make Islam religion as your enemy .Awon were jatijati.

adm212144:
what Surah verses ?God has really bless Islam .simply the best ,everyone of you should ant to use Islam to chase clout .talk about other religion .You were never liked by the Jew you claimed to be your brother .They don’t even believe in your jesus as much as the Muslim do and yet you make Islam religion as your enemy .Awon were jatijati.

Stop deceiving yourself! The hatred in the Quran is more than the love in the Quran. It sees Jews, christians and pagans as infidels that should be hated. It says don't take Jews and Christians as friends, kill them wherever you find them etc are parts of hatred that encourage only Islam to control 98% of worldwide terrorists known as soldiers of Allah kill those that disbelieve in Allah and Mohammad as his messanger.

Jews not believing in Jesus is not new to christians, reasons for that is already in the Bible. It is just a confirmation that Bible is true.

Despite that Jews know her enemy is islam trying to destroy her. Jew never sees Christianity as threat aside the fact that many don't believe in Jesus as already stated in the Bible. The Muslim in Isreal are already tamed and controlled, they don't terrorism like other Muslim world just like Yoruba Muslims are tamed by Yoruba peaceful culture and enlighten by their christian brothers.

You can believe whatever you like but the truth is that worldwide majority see Islam as a threat due to level of suicide bombing and terrorism. Today, once you hear Allah Akbar in odd places or repeatedly, run away some meters from that place first before sound of bomb follow. Out of thousands of religions on earth, why is Islam the only one controlling 98% of world terrorists? Why? You may deny it, but it doesn't hide the truth, The current globally current list of banned terrorists is available online.

sreamsense:
Stop deceiving yourself! The hatred in the Quran is more than the love in the Quran. It sees Jews, christians and pagans as infidels that should be hated. It says don't take Jews and Christians as friends, kill them wherever you find them etc are parts of hatred that encourage only Islam to control 98% of worldwide terrorists known as soldiers of Allah kill those that disbelieve in Allah and Mohammad as his messanger.

Jews not believing in Jesus is not new to christians, reasons for that is already in the Bible. It is just a confirmation that Bible is true.

Despite that Jews know her enemy is islam trying to destroy her. Jew never sees Christianity as threat aside the fact that many don't believe in Jesus as already stated in the Bible. The Muslim in Isreal are already tamed and controlled, they don't terrorism like other Muslim world just like Yoruba Muslims are tamed by Yoruba peaceful culture and enlighten by their christian brothers.

You can believe whatever you like but the truth is that worldwide majority see Islam as a threat due to level of suicide bombing and terrorism. Today, once you hear Allah Akbar in odd places or repeatedly, run away some meters from that place first before sound of bomb follow. Out of thousands of religions on earth, why is Islam the only one controlling 98% of world terrorists? Why? You may deny it, but it doesn't hide the truth, The current globally current list of banned terrorists is available online.

and your called USA is an ally or most Islamic nations except for the countries America and the countries your champion isreal want to forcefully claim their land and wrongfully occupied .Who is the terrorist here .Do you know when is isreal has been killing innocents civilians and wrongfully accusing them of terroeism .do you know how many journalist isreal has been killed for revealing the truth .do your research very well about isreal and Palestinian.The issue is the major problem of the world.i don’t know the Quran you are reading ,Quran always condemn violence.im not a Muslim and all my life,I grew up with Christian doctrine but truth most be told going down the history .i swear isreal and America are the real terrorist .

adm212144:
and your called USA is an ally or most Islamic nations except for the countries America and the countries your champion isreal want to forcefully claim their land and wrongfully occupied .Who is the terrorist here .Do you know when is isreal has been killing innocents civilians and wrongfully accusing them of terroeism .do you know how many journalist isreal has been killed for revealing the truth .do your research very well about isreal and Palestinian.The issue is the major problem of the world.i don’t know the Quran you are reading ,Quran always condemn violence.im not a Muslim and all my life,I grew up with Christian doctrine but truth most be told going down the history .i swear isreal and America are the real terrorist .

You are still ignorant of many things. First, white lie is permitted in Islam. You are lying of being a christian when your writeup and writing tone has already exposed you are not. If you are, you will not be asking some simple things well clear to one week person in Christianity. You called yourself a christian but don't even know reason why Jews don't believe in Jesus despite Jesus was born there. You are not a christian, stop lying! Better not to claim any religion than claiming Christianity, your emotion and body language is with Islam. You don't understand what Christianity is all about. Attending a church sometimes does not make you a christian.

USA does not force friendship on any Arab or Islamic countries, but instead Islamic countries are the one looking for favour from USA. Saudi Arabia has no choice than to take USA as a friend when Iran (Shia) was always ready to bomb Saudi Arabia. USA and Isreal ( intelligent sharing) are the ones protecting Saudi Arabia from terrorists and Iran, so USA was not begging any Islamic nation to be friend by force. USA and Isreal are always there to treat the fuckup of any Islamic nation hiding under terrorism to make the world unsafe.

Do you know how many Al-Jazeera journalists and UN staffs were found to be terrorists working for hamas? Hamas used mosques, schools and hospitals as shades for terrorism but Isreal is always there to treat your fuckup. If you don't have Quran search online to see that hatred in the Quran is more than the love in the Quran. Mohammad and Quran planted the seed of hatred in the mind of Muslims to hate Jews, christians and pagans by referring to them as I fidels and promise them of 72 virgins. That's is the basis why 98% of world terrorists are Muslims that identified Islam as their religion and even observe five daily Solat prayer after killing people for Allah. They call themselves soldiers of Allah.

sreamsense:
You are still ignorant of many things. First, white lie is permitted in Islam. You are lying of being a christian when your writeup and writing tone has already exposed you are not. If you are, you will not be asking some simple things well clear to one week person in Christianity. You called yourself a christian but don't even know reason why Jews don't believe in Jesus despite Jesus was born there. You are not a christian, stop lying! Better not to claim any religion than claiming Christianity, your emotion and body language is with Islam. You don't understand what Christianity is all about. Attending a church sometimes does not make you a christian.

USA does not force friendship on any Arab or Islamic countries, but instead Islamic countries are the one looking for favour from USA. Saudi Arabia has no choice than to take USA as a friend when Iran (Shia) was always ready to bomb Saudi Arabia. USA and Isreal ( intelligent sharing) are the ones protecting Saudi Arabia from terrorists and Iran, so USA was not begging any Islamic nation to be friend by force. USA and Isreal are always there to treat the fuckup of any Islamic nation hiding under terrorism to make the world unsafe.

Do you know how many Al-Jazeera journalists and UN staffs were found to be terrorists working for hamas? Hamas used mosques, schools and hospitals as shades for terrorism but Isreal is always there to treat your fuckup. If you don't have Quran search online to see that hatred in the Quran is more than the love in the Quran. Mohammad and Quran planted the seed of hatred in the mind of Muslims to hate Jews, christians and pagans by referring to them as I fidels and promise them of 72 virgins. That's is the basis why 98% of world terrorists are Muslims that identified Islam as their religion and even observe five daily Solat prayer after killing people for Allah. They call themselves soldiers of Allah.

I never said I am a Christian. And stop this mouth watering lines to gain sympathy.you are the one lieing here .Go and make research very well not those lies your pastors and selfish leaders are telling you .if you references I will tell you .izonist isrealites like netnonsense and America are the real terrosist .if you don’t have have facts keep shut and stop mocking other people’s religion .You should be sane enough to know that .everybody will be condemning terrorism act without considering what ignite it .isreal has right to defend but Palestine should not defend themselves on their land .If isreal kill Palestine ,they are on the right course but if Palestine or HEZEBOLLAH attacked .They are teerrosit .common 2 state solutions between them to bring peace,isreal refused .forget all the lies that mainstream media is giving you .Do you how Palestinian are been victimized on their land everyday before October 7th .you just blowing grammar and you are been sentimental and it’s because you are envious of Islam .anything Islam always affects your sanity .

Blowing nonsense grammar and all fake stories .How can netanonsense said he’s fighting base of what scripture said .o boy wake up .i hope one day netnonsense won’t come to Nigeria too and tell us our county belong to isreal base on what scriptures said and you are here defending that ,with all the money wasted on you acquire knowledge. Some peoples are m o r r o n .