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kabe1:
Don't mind him, the last parts of his contribution is wrong.

The Soviet backed forces defeated Apartheid South-Africa, a communist government took over in Angola, the Namibians gained independence from Apartheid South-Africa, and the Apartheid government fell.

How it is they want to claim a defeat as victory continues to amaze me.

True, but you would do the same, if it were Nigeria; even me . The main thing is that they gave them a hard-earned victory and even though it was apartheid then

kabe1:
KA-52 Alligator, Russia's best Attack Helicopter.

"VKS has lost 10+ Alligators but how they used it in offensive role & doing CAP like missions over vast countryside, it showed impressive performance".

During the Afghan war in the 80s, the Mi-24 presented that iconic figure that, in a way, represented the Soviet Air Power. For the present Russo-Ukranian conflict, that bird is definitely the Ka-52.

[quote author=kabe1 post=112798952][/quote]That's picture taken before coup. Regardless of opinion on the coup itself, which I know nothing about, at least a lot of pictures of their Chinese APC/AFV armour surfaced on the internet. On the other hand whenever I try to look up pictures of Zimbabwean military vehicles, I get spammed with and only pictures from coup.

DRC BTR-60PB

davefurn:
Wow, enlighten us about the war you had with Russia; I'm kinda learning here too. How did it go, What caused it?, How did it end....... Browsing on it, not seeing anything credible here, just Russia-Ukraine . I will love to hear the full story or any links to it

Border War my bru....although technically not directly against Russia but against Russian equipment, Russian doctrine, Russian advisors and Russian trained Cubans.....and the odd Russian.

Result: the SADF did not lose a single battle in the entire 23years of the Border War

kabe1:
He's referring to the Angolan Bush war which resulted in the fall of Apartheid and the Independence of Namibia.

No and Not the objective

kabe1:
Don't mind him, the last parts of his contribution is wrong.

The Soviet backed forces defeated Apartheid South-Africa, a communist government took over in Angola, the Namibians gained independence from Apartheid South-Africa, and the Apartheid government fell.

How it is they want to claim a defeat as victory continues to amaze me.

So according to you they defeated the SADF without winning a single battle......some logic bru

Hell even the biased SA history.org website states that the SADF absolutely demolished the Commies in Angola.

davefurn:
India bans wheat export;
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2022/5/14/india-bans-wheat-exports-cites-food-security-and-soaring-prices
Russia sanctioned, Ukraine failed attempts at snake island means Odessa port is temporary unusable for exports. What does everyone think about the economic impact of the war ?

The biggest winners of this war are the Chinese economy because of cheap fuel and US. Europe without Russia will have high production costs. The us is guaranteed world domination for another 100 years.

The best African countries can do to deter the west is have bio-weapons

GreenandGold:
Actually, this is when you should conceal your artillery the most.

2nd, you don't attack an enemy that has artillery with your short-range arty like what Russia is doing because counter-artillery is a b#tch.

3rd, if you can't conceal then you should use self-propelled to change position after firing a few rounds.

Those are on the 1st page of Artillery School 101

Good

davefurn:
Hmmm... Very different from the YouTube vid but wow!!!!!!!....

The YouTube video is telling why Cubans were in Angola, Im telling you why SA was in Angola.

kabe1:
Don't mind him, the last parts of his contribution is wrong.

The Soviet backed forces defeated Apartheid South-Africa, a communist government took over in Angola, the Namibians gained independence from Apartheid South-Africa, and the Apartheid government fell.

How it is they want to claim a defeat as victory continues to amaze me.

Which war or battle did the Soviet-backed forces win ??

I will listen over the radio

Tinfoil:
The best African countries can do to deter the west is have bio-weapons

That's exactly not how you deter West. The worst idea you can have and how to invite foregin airstrikes on your own soil, especially if you threaten to use them or use them on certain group within the country.

jl115:
Border War my bru....although technically not directly against Russia but against Russian equipment, Russian doctrine, Russian advisors and Russian trained Cubans.....and the odd Russian.

Result: the SADF did not lose a single battle in the entire 23years of the Border War

Alright thanks for the information; it was enlightening

GreenandGold:
The YouTube video is telling why Cubans were in Angola, Im telling you why SA was in Angola.

Alright, It was very enlightening from both sides

GreenandGold:
sh#t, look at all that destruction, I can bet 50+ troops were killed on that crossing alone. The Russian military has no respect for soldier life. They just throw soldiers at experimental missions without any kind of thought and don't even bother to collect the dead kids back to their parents and don't do a follow up to collect their destroyed gear.... WTF!

They are still using a WW2 doctrine of forward-matching regardless of the cost of lives and equipment.

A better representation of the cost of Russian incompetence.

kabe1:
Don't mind him, the last parts of his contribution is wrong.

The Soviet backed forces defeated Apartheid South-Africa, a communist government took over in Angola, the Namibians gained independence from Apartheid South-Africa, and the Apartheid government fell.

How it is they want to claim a defeat as victory continues to amaze me.

No they DID NOT! 5 mns on google:

UNITA
3,000 dead[5][9]
South Africa:
86 dead
90 wounded[10]
5 tanks lost (2 recovered)[2]
5 Ratels lost[2]
6 other armoured vehicles lost[4]
2 aircraft shot down
1 aircraft crashed[4]
FAPLA:
4,768 dead[6]
10,000+ wounded[5]
94 tanks lost[2]
65 APCs lost[6]
12 aircraft shot down[5]
Cuba:
42 soldiers dead[7]
7 pilots dead[3]
3 pilots POW[3]
70 wounded (UNITA claim)[5]
6 tanks lost[1]
6 aircraft shot down[3]
Soviet Union:
4 dead (UNITA claim)[5]
31 wounded (UNITA claim)[5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cuito_Cuanavale

Btw, a public announcement to everyone - can we PLEASE get into the habit of a minimum if research? It's NOT complicated or time consuming to check up on some of this ishyt, really.

They were so crushingly defeated that Castro that faux revolutionary had the commander executed : someone who was with him at the start of his murderous sedition and subversion in the high jungles of Cuba.

In typical commie style he was first subjected to a show trial and THEN shot!

MEXICO CITY — Cuban war hero Arnaldo Ochoa Sanchez and three other former army officers were executed by firing squad today for shipping tons of drugs into the United States, the official Cuban news agency said.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-07-13-mn-4768-story.html

Ochoa, as you can see was too busy with operations here in Africa to have gotten involved in that f'ery. The cigar smoking swindler and billionaire cocaine trafficker therefore simultaneously punished failure, warned subordinates of consequences of the same and absolved himself of all and any involvement in the drug game-Castro ALLLLL the way!
Read ex colleagues memoirs and see what a narcissistic psycho he ALWAYS was.

Buschlaid:
That's exactly not how you deter West. The worst idea you can have and how to invite foregin airstrikes on your own soil, especially if you threaten to use them or use them on certain group within the country.

Sadam, Gaddafi,... gave up his WMD and that's when he was attacked, Iran, N.Korea,... survives because of it weapons

COVID spread despite lockdowns. Even if the lab is hit with an airstrike once the weapon is released the whole world is affected. The west economy is dependant on global trade. The us and Russia are currently developing them

It is cheap and only needs very little knowledge to create a bioweapon using commercial available technology like crispr and would work best when released as a cocktail if two or more pathogens

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://media.defense.gov/2019/Apr/11/2002115480/-1/-1/0/14NEXTGENBIOWEAPONS.PDF&ved=2ahUKEwj-0pOBwuT3AhU6SvEDHaNTBZEQFnoECAcQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2S3wCnmgwiV7WcZVaqUbvw

Hello all! I'd like to ask who has any solid contacts with any Aerospace and Defence Company here. Solid opportunity in the works.

To the Saffers, anyone with any links in Denel or Paramount?

NNS KADA ARRIVES LUANDA PORT AS PART OF HER HOMEWARD VOYAGE TO NIGERIA ON SUNDAY 15 MAY 2022

South African Navy MMIPV

Pic 1: member of the Kenyan Army wearing the Czech 601st special Forces patch.
Pic 2 :A member of the KDf ranger regiment during a training exercise with the Us rangers

Kdf humanitarian operations in somalia which include,..medical camps,road construction,distribution of relief food among others

Tinfoil:
Sadam, Gaddafi,... gave up his WMD and that's when he was attacked, Iran, N.Korea,... survives because of it weapons

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://media.defense.gov/2019/Apr/11/2002115480/-1/-1/0/14NEXTGENBIOWEAPONS.PDF&ved=2ahUKEwj-0pOBwuT3AhU6SvEDHaNTBZEQFnoECAcQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2S3wCnmgwiV7WcZVaqUbvw

Last time I checked, Syria's possesion of chemical weapons invited numerous airstrikes on it's soil by numerous countries. Iraq's delevopment of nuclear weapons wasn't welcomed by Israel either and provoked them enough to execute Operation Opera. In case Iran decided to continue on development of nuclear weapons, I'm more than certain we would have seen sabotage by Israel. Sadam's weapons of mass destruction was also one of the main reasons why coalition attacked Iraq, whether he had any or it was made up justification for invasion is up for a different debate. As for Libya, it has fallen apart from the inside many years after Gaddafi signed the chemical weapons treaty, chemical weapons had nothing to do with it though.

In case someone decides to bring up example of North Korea, it's not the case either. Sure, their nuclear weapons and likely chemical weapons play some role, however, even if DPRK didn't have any, it just wouldn't be worth it for South Korea/USA to try anything. DPRK has so much artillery within reach of Seoul that it would be reckless bloodbath.

Also, developing chemical weapons is not as easy as you might think. It's much easier than nuclear weapons, but it's still not something you can easily hide. And just the development and not sustaining any relations with the west would catch unwanted attention of western spy agencies. I cannot comment much on the diseases because that's not field of my interest. However even China that plays by it's own rules had to make some concessions because of Covid spread. Not to mention if you were to use any bio weapons on enemy, in today's world of fast travel you are just as likely to affect your own population too.

Tinfoil:
Sadam, Gaddafi,... gave up his WMD and that's when he was attacked, Iran, N.Korea,... survives because of it weapons

COVID spread despite lockdowns. Even if the lab is hit with an airstrike once the weapon is released the whole world is affected. The west economy is dependant on global trade. The us and Russia are currently developing them

It is cheap and only needs very little knowledge to create a bioweapon using commercial available technology like crispr and would work best when released as a cocktail if two or more pathogens

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://media.defense.gov/2019/Apr/11/2002115480/-1/-1/0/14NEXTGENBIOWEAPONS.PDF&ved=2ahUKEwj-0pOBwuT3AhU6SvEDHaNTBZEQFnoECAcQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2S3wCnmgwiV7WcZVaqUbvw

You obviously don't have enough oxygen in your brain.. because what nonsense is this?

DRC Republican guard T-64B1M - for full story I fully recommend this article by Oryx Spienkop: https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2021/06/welcome-to-jungle-ukrainian-t-64b1m.html

Buschlaid:
Last time I checked, Syria's possesion of chemical weapons invited numerous airstrikes on it's soil by numerous countries. Iraq's delevopment of nuclear weapons wasn't welcomed by Israel either and provoked them enough to execute Operation Opera. In case Iran decided to continue on development of nuclear weapons, I'm more than certain we would have seen sabotage by Israel. Sadam's weapons of mass destruction was also one of the main reasons why coalition attacked Iraq, whether he had any or it was made up justification for invasion is up for a different debate. As for Libya, it has fallen apart from the inside many years after Gaddafi signed the chemical weapons treaty, chemical weapons had nothing to do with it though.

In case someone decides to bring up example of North Korea, it's not the case either. Sure, their nuclear weapons and likely chemical weapons play some role, however, even if DPRK didn't have any, it just wouldn't be worth it for South Korea/USA to try anything. DPRK has so much artillery within reach of Seoul that it would be reckless bloodbath.

Also, developing chemical weapons is not as easy as you might think. It's much easier than nuclear weapons, but it's still not something you can easily hide. And just the development and not sustaining any relations with the west would catch unwanted attention of western spy agencies. I cannot comment much on the diseases because that's not field of my interest. However even China that plays by it's own rules had to make some concessions because of Covid spread. Not to mention if you were to use any bio weapons on enemy, in today's world of fast travel you are just as likely to affect your own population too.

You will soon learn some characters here aren't worth the time for argument.

shadowprimezero:
Hello all! I'd like to ask who has any solid contacts with any Aerospace and Defence Company here. Solid opportunity in the works.

To the Saffers, anyone with any links in Denel or Paramount?

my mom used to work for Kentron(Denel Dynamics) back in the day, but doubt she has any contacts left....

My Uncle was an engineer for Kentron as well and actually worked on the HMD for the Mirage F1.... But unfortunately he passed away last year...

Odunayaw:
You obviously don't have enough oxygen in your brain.. because what nonsense is this?

Proforce Defence will be exhibiting at Eurosatory.

They also showed images of their recent exports to Niger Republic, including exports to Ghana.

Glad to announce that Proforce Limited, Nigeria's first indigenous defence corporation, will be exhibiting at #Eurosatory2022 in Paris, France.

We will be showcasing our innovative solutions for all defence needs and operations. Visit us at Hall 6F 137! #ProforceLimited pic.twitter.com/U6Hd6dvhlp

— Proforce (@Proforcedefence) May 17, 2022

shadowprimezero:
Hello all! I'd like to ask who has any solid contacts with any Aerospace and Defence Company here. Solid opportunity in the works.

To the Saffers, anyone with any links in Denel or Paramount?

contact proforce +234 802 389 0712

Bleep

GeneralFarouq:
Suicide Bomber in Kano Sabo gari.






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