Mickykarim:
Our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ has neither mandated nor asked anyone to fight for him nd or on his behalf. We are unlike the sect and religion that fights for its prophet. We are not zealots like in the islamic religion. The REBUKE of Peter by the Saviour when he struck a soldier that had come for him was instructive and indicative of our we treat our enemies.

OUR ESTEEM FAITH PREVENTS AND BAR US FROM DRAWING SWORD AND OR RAISE OUR FINGER AGAINST OUR ADVERSARIES.

Pastor whatever Jesus Christ did not teach you to classify any statement or action against him as blasphemy. Go read your Bible before you defend out faith. You have not represented the vineyard appropriately. Desist from giving the Christian house a bad name. We are not like the the people in the next house. Our own God can fight his fight and defend himself properly and better than anyone could.

JESUS CHRIST DID NOT SEND YOU ON THIS ERRAND. DO NOT STIR DISHARMONY IN HIS NAME.

You are one of the problems of Christianity. If that is your stand then then all the Christian's will die finish

okparea:


Teach me mallam I want to learn from you

No be you said he was never a Prophet ?


Now, lemme educate you small..... Prophet Muhammad (SAW) is/was a Prophet/Messenger of the owner of Universe Allah (God).

Trust you know what it meant to be a Prophet unless you're a dullard...

muzeze77:
Read the bible, he was sent ,he is a messenger of God

Matthew 10:40

“He who receives you receives Me, and he who receives Me receives Him who sent Me.

John 5:24
“Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.

John 5:30
“I can do nothing on My own initiative. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is just, because I do not seek My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.

John 7:33
Therefore Jesus said, “For a little while longer I am with you, then I go to Him who sent Me.

The man has made it clear he was sent (Said this 21 times) , why are you stubborn to think he is God

What you said is correct, what he (the pastor) also said is correct, the only difference is here in 2 Corinthians 3:6 (pls don't read KJV for proper understanding)

It's so funny now that many Muslims study the bible like literature,but unfortunately, all they could see is letter. I've seen so many Imans, Alfas who knows bible front and back, but the truth remains, all they know literature

muzeze77:
Read the bible, he was sent ,he is a messenger of God

Matthew 10:40

“He who receives you receives Me, and he who receives Me receives Him who sent Me.

John 5:24
“Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.

John 5:30
“I can do nothing on My own initiative. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is just, because I do not seek My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.

John 7:33
Therefore Jesus said, “For a little while longer I am with you, then I go to Him who sent Me.

The man has made it clear he was sent (Said this 21 times) , why are you stubborn to think he is God

all these blabbing haven't you read John 3:16?

Karlosorji:
You are one of the problems of Christianity. [b]If that is your stand then then all the Christian's will die [/b]finish

Jesus Christ, the God over "Christians" was killed, and so were many of His disciples, who by choosing to obey Him met their death at the hands of the sword. Are you a better Christian than those disciples that your life must be preserved against even the commandments of Jesus Christ?

salykely:


A Prophet is a man approved by God to men. If you have this approval from God, you will do what God has anointed you for. All you need is the permission of God to those miracles. This was the message in Act 2:22

"Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know"

lol if I point you to another quote in that same ACT you will say it is Scam.

Nevertheless let me reply you, no Prophet. None at all can be given the power to raise the dead or even judge the world. That authority is reserved only For God.

Besides, if for eg, God give a prophet the right or permission to do all that doing the end time ... Please does that Prophet have the authority to delegate it? Lol.

But you see, Jesus Delegated by telling his disciples they will sit on Thrones judging the 12 tribes of isreal.

So I ask again, which prophet has the right to do that kind of thing?

Note: remember, according to your Quran it is God that will judge the world and raise the dead...but yet, Christ said He is the one to judge the world and raise the dead.

So which should we believe? Lol.


See bro you can't win this. Even Jesus said the least angel in heaven is greater than the greatest prophet on Earth...so why will God give a prophet the right or permission to judge the world ? Lol.


By the way Oga, Prophets only do miracles on Earth. They won't be doing any miracles in heaven or on the last day. So get it.

You claim to know the Bible but you know nothing actually.

After we finish this one, come make we go the book of Revelation. There we go talk more. Lol

salykely:


A Prophet is a man approved by God to men. If you have this approval from God, you will do what God has anointed you for. All you need is the permission of God to those miracles. This was the message in Act 2:22

"Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know"

Jesus is not just. Prophet that's what you should know. Check Micah 5:2. Can God say that of Just a Prophet? Did just a prophet pre existed back in heaven? Lol.

By the way, if Jesus was just a prophet.. he won't have called John the Baptist the greatest Prophet. He would probably have called himself that or not even spoken about it. But we know even John said Jesus was greater than him then how come Jesus said John is the greatest prophet? Think.

Kobojunkie:
Good question actually!

1. John the Baptist was, according to Jesus Christ, the greatest Old Covenant Prophets, and rightly so. However, Jesus Christ was not an Old Covenant Prophet like John, and Moses, and all those in-between, this since His message and that which He embodied is God's New Covenant and Law in the Kingdom of God, a Kingdom which He is ruler over.

2. If you refuse to accept Jesus Christ as a Prophet, then what you do is accuse God of lying in Deuteronomy 18 vs 14 - 17. So, it is true, just as Jesus Christ Himself said, that He is the prophet spoken of by Moses.

so then according to you Jesus is the Ruler of God kingdom?... So let me ask you, can just a prophet be the ruler of God heavenly Kingdom?. I'm talking about a Kingdom inhabitated by powerful spirits beings.
Spirit beings that is greater than any Prophet.. remember Jesus said the least angel in heaven is Greater than the greatest prophet on Earth.

So that will mean if Jesus is just a prophet..a new convenant prophet it will mean the least angel is greater than him. If so, how then will someone who the least angel is greater than rule God's kingdom made up of beings much more powerful than he could ever be? Does that make sense in your head.


By the way, How is John and old convenant Prophet since apparently John and Christ came around the same time?.

How is John and old convanent prophet when he was the one that was sent to make the path straight for Christ coming?..


To be sincere bro, you claim to know the Bible but you actually know nothing.

Kobojunkie:
Good question actually!

1. John the Baptist was, according to Jesus Christ, the greatest Old Covenant Prophets, and rightly so. However, Jesus Christ was not an Old Covenant Prophet like John, and Moses, and all those in-between, this since His message and that which He embodied is God's New Covenant and Law in the Kingdom of God, a Kingdom which He is ruler over.

2. If you refuse to accept Jesus Christ as a Prophet, then what you do is accuse God of lying in Deuteronomy 18 vs 14 - 17. So, it is true, just as Jesus Christ Himself said, that He is the prophet spoken of by Moses.

And you also make God a liar in MIcah 5:2 where God spoke about Christ.
And you also make Christ and Peter a liar when Peter inspired by God called Christ the Son of God.
And you also make King David a liar when he said "The Lord said to my Lord".
You also make this verse a liar that said..

"And to the Son he said, thy Throne o God".

And you also make 1John1 a liar.

And you also make the book of Revelation where Jesus called himself "Alpha and Omega" a liar.


Do you know Jesus Christ said, "all that belongs to God belongs to him"..
And we know that this below belongs to God.

Worship
Riches
Glory.
Honour
Power
Might
Righteousness..
Reverence etc.
And yet Jesus said they all belongs to him.

Can just a prophet make this claim?

What Jesus claim and say, just a prophet can't make it. Even Elijah will never say all that belongs to God belongs to him bro.

You lack knowledge of the Bible..
Like I said, you claim to know but you know nothing.

ifiokjohn:
Jesus is not just. Prophet that's what you should know. Check Micah 5:2. Can God say that of Just a Prophet? Did just a prophet pre existed back in heaven? Lol.

By the way, if Jesus was just a prophet.. he won't have called John the Baptist the greatest Prophet. He would probably have called himself that or not even spoken about it. But we know even John said Jesus was greater than him then how come Jesus said John is the greatest prophet? Think.

I do not agree with you, but let limit our argument to the topic, which is, can someone who called Jesus a Prophet be accused of blasphemy?

alfarouq:


I would have loved to educate you on somethings, but I am a little occupied now just took a little break to surf nairaland.

Now, there is Nabiyy ( Prophet) and Rasul ( Messenger).

All messengers are prophets but not all prophets are messangers. In essence, Messangers have a higher rank with God than those who are prophets only.

Prophets are people sent by God to guide people back to law when humans are going astray. Their teachings is based on the law of a messenger who had preceded them.

Messengers on the other hand are sent with new laws and teachings by God to people. They usually come with a law giving to them by God.

John, Zechariah, Joseph, Aaron etc are prophets.

Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad SAW are messengers. Note that I am not saying these 6 are the only messengers. There are other messengers.

In summary, Any prophet that is giving a scripture or a new law with whom he judges between people is a messanger.

Messengers are superior to prophets.

Hence Jesus a messenger and prophet is superior to John who is a prophet only Peace be upon them all.

Smh. Smh Smh SMH SMH .... If so, clearly can you tell me what God was talking about in Micah 5:2?.

Can you tell me what Jesus meant by all that belongs to God belongs to him?. Note, not even all the messengers you mention will make that claim.
Noah won't. Moses won't.
Let me list to you all that belongs to God.

We have
Worship
Honour.
Glory.
Riches
Power
Wisdom
Wealth
Etc... And yet Jesus said all this belongs to him....tell me which of the messengers in your lips can make such claims?.
Note, I'm not disagreeing with you that Jesus was a messenger from God. Afterall, if A King send his Son to a farway land with a message or something.. that son becomes a messenger because he goes with a messengers.
Nevertheless I'm saying Jesus is not your ordinary messenger. Like the Noah, Moses etc you mention.

Check the book of Revelation for more emphasis on that. There you have Jesus saying He is Alpha and Omega, begining and end.
Check same book of Revelation you will see how all the angels and 24 elders bowed to the Lamb.
Check same book of Revelation you will see that Jesus is not your ordinary messenger.

For instance, Angels are messengers from God( they're not Prophet) but yet Jesus is greater than the angels of God.

The Bible let us know that by Becoming a Man Jesus was made lower than the angels ... But when he died and Resurrected and went to.the Father he became Higher than the angels .
Can a Human messenger be higher than an angel? Noooooo.

Jesus said something I remember.. he said the least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than the greatest prophet. In that regard he is wasn't distinguishing between prophet and Messengers like you did above. He put all of them in the same boat. And said the least angel is greater than them.

And yet same Bible let us know that Jesus is Greater than the angels of God. Infact after God in the Kingdom of Heaven..it is Jesus Christ.
That's why same book of the Bible said he is the Ruler of God kingdom.
Can a messenger be ruler of God Kingdom ? Think.


Now let's go further, thank God you brought Moses, Noah etc. Show me where.. anywhere in the Bible where they will raise or join in the raising of the dead in the endtime and the judging of the world?.. if you show me that I will keep quiet.

Remember it was Jesus that said he shall raise the dead doing the end and he shall judge the world. He didn't just say that, he also guaranteed his disciples the right to judge the children of Isreal.
Until you can name me any Messenger in your list of messengers who can make such a claim..
Then we have nothing to argue.
Jesus is not a messenger...it is that simple.

ifiokjohn:
lol if I point you to another quote in that same ACT you will say it is Scam.

Nevertheless let me reply you, no Prophet. None at all can be given the power to raise the dead or even judge the world. That authority is reserved only For God.

Besides, if for eg, God give a prophet the right or permission to do all that doing the end time ... Please does that Prophet have the authority to delegate it? Lol.

But you see, Jesus Delegated by telling his disciples they will sit on Thrones judging the 12 tribes of isreal.

So I ask again, which prophet has the right to do that kind of thing?

Note: remember, according to your Quran it is God that will judge the world and raise the dead...but yet, Christ said He is the one to judge the world and raise the dead.

So which should we believe? Lol.


See bro you can't win this. Even Jesus said the least angel in heaven is greater than the greatest prophet on Earth...so why will God give a prophet the right or permission to judge the world ? Lol.


By the way Oga, Prophets only do miracles on Earth. They won't be doing any miracles in heaven or on the last day. So get it.

You claim to know the Bible but you know nothing actually.

After we finish this one, come make we go the book of Revelation. There we go talk more. Lol

You have raised many issues which I do not have the time to conviniently respond to. But let limit ourselves to the issue raised in the topic. In view of the Bible itself , would it be blasphemy to refer to Jesus Christ of Nazareth a Prophet of God?

alfarouq:


I would have loved to educate you on somethings, but I am a little occupied now just took a little break to surf nairaland.

Now, there is Nabiyy ( Prophet) and Rasul ( Messenger).

All messengers are prophets but not all prophets are messangers. In essence, Messangers have a higher rank with God than those who are prophets only.

Prophets are people sent by God to guide people back to law when humans are going astray. Their teachings is based on the law of a messenger who had preceded them.

Messengers on the other hand are sent with new laws and teachings by God to people. They usually come with a law giving to them by God.

John, Zechariah, Joseph, Aaron etc are prophets.

Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad SAW are messengers. Note that I am not saying these 6 are the only messengers. There are other messengers.

In summary, Any prophet that is giving a scripture or a new law with whom he judges between people is a messanger.

Messengers are superior to prophets.

Hence Jesus a messenger and prophet is superior to John who is a prophet only Peace be upon them all.

by the way . Jesus was saying John is greater than all those you named. Including Abraham , Moses etc.
You know why?
Because he was the one sent to make Jesus way straight. Remember in one of the prophecy it is said... "there's a voice crying in the wilderness... Make the way or path of the Lord straight. That voice is John. The Lord there is Jesus." Since John is a fore runner of God Son..it makes sense to say he is greater than those prophets.

For eg, a President chief of staff is Greater than any minister.
So since Christ is King of God kingdom and John is like Christ Chief of staff, it make sense to say John is Greater than any prophet or messenger.

dogwen:

Let God's punishment be extended to you and your entire generation too.

why the epe?, what have I done to deserve this your outrage, are you one of the zombies

salykely:


You have raised many issues which I do not have the time to conviniently respond to. But let limit ourselves to the issue raised in the topic. In view of the Bible itself , would it be blasphemy to refer to Jesus Christ of Nazareth a Prophet of God?

I'll let the apostle Peter reply you when Jesus asked his disciples who do people say I am?.
.. the disciples mentioned prophet but yet Jesus didn't say they were correct until Simon Peter stood up and spoke.


See one thing you should know is that people will define a man with many things.
People from afar will define him as a prophet. Some like the scribes will define him as a liar.
Some will define him as just a man.
While some close will define him as the Son of God like Simon Peter did on inspiration.

While some like Thomas will define him as his God.
Some like that man will define him as a Great teacher.
Some will define him as a healer.
And many more definition.

But who.is he truly? Well I go with Simon Peter on inspiration from God...

JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD AND NOT A PROPHET.

and just like those who defined him as a teacher, a healer etc are not entirely wrong.. so are those who define him as a Prophet.

salykely:


I do not agree with you, but let limit our argument to the topic, which is, can someone who called Jesus a Prophet be accused of blasphemy?

nope. Just like you can't accuse one who calls Jesus a healer or a teacher of blasphemy.
Though they're not entirely right...they're not entirely wrong too.

Kinzo0917:
. Search for bible versions on playstore. There are many there but you have to search for the right one

Don't you know the name of the Bible you downloaded?

[quote author=yetunsbay post=112936048]No be you said he was never a Prophet ?


Now, lemme educate you small..... Prophet Muhammad (SAW) is/was a Prophet/Messenger of the owner of Universe Allah (God).

Trust you know what it meant to be a Prophet unless you're a dullard...

Did your Muhammad ever perform any miracle in the Koran.
That name ascribe to Muhammad being a prophet is wrong, what future invent did he see or what’s the meaning of being a prophet to you people
Apart from being a jihadist what else what he known for?
Prove to me that he is a prophet in your Koran and I will show you why Jesus is God

byrron:



First of all, I responded to your comment to me and then asked you some questions but you deliberately choose to pretend not to have seen my questions to you and respond just like I did but opted to ask me a question without bothering to answer mine.

It doesn't work that way.

Secondly, I never told you I was a Muslim nor practice Islam, therefore I'm lost at sea with all these your comment about "Koran" or are you mistaking me for some other person in here?

Sorry I have your time now what’s the question you asked I’m free to answer now

byrron:


You sound very disoriented, ludicrous and consistently incoherent and don't know what you are talking about.

Go and read up my previous comments and responses to you and if that's your definition of someone that is an atheist then you are very ignorant.

I gave you bible scriptures that proves that God acknowledged Jesus christ as his son and that suddenly made me an Atheist?

Have you ever seen an atheist that believes in Jesus Christ? That's a proof that you don't even know the meaning of the word "Atheist".

Just wasted my time thinking I was having a conversation with someone that has functional thought processes.

You sound so rude but I can’t bring myself low to throw banter back
if you have any question we can do this on any platform of your choice, I find it out using this nairaland
But if you insist can drop your message here and o will reply in due time

[quote author=okparea post=112945022][/quote]see this guy oooooo. So performing miracle only qualify u being a a prophet ?

No wonder fake pastors plenty for this country. Miracle worker mumu people.


What miracle did Prophet Adam performed ?

Does that mk him less being Prophet ?

leofab:
read it and see that it predates the Bible and makes the Bible useless

american whites lynched a black.

chinese police were organizing a christmas party for the black prisoners in Dongguan jail.

igbesachick:



american whites lynched a black.

chinese police were organizing a christmas party for the black prisoners in Dongguan jail.

unlike the communists that kill their own citizens because of religious differences.. find attached your brother languishing in cells across Nigeria for illegal mining.

ifiokjohn:
1. so then according to you Jesus is the Ruler of God kingdom?...

2. So let me ask you, can just a prophet be the ruler of God heavenly Kingdom?. I'm talking about a Kingdom inhabitated by powerful spirits beings.
Spirit beings that is greater than any Prophet.. remember Jesus said the least angel in heaven is Greater than the greatest prophet on Earth.

3. So that will mean if Jesus is just a prophet..a new convenant prophet it will mean the least angel is greater than him. If so, how then will someone who the least angel is greater than rule God's kingdom made up of beings much more powerful than he could ever be? Does that make sense in your head.

4. By the way, How is John and old convenant Prophet since apparently John and Christ came around the same time?. How is John and old convanent prophet when he was the one that was sent to make the path straight for Christ coming?..

5. To be sincere bro, you claim to know the Bible but you actually know nothing.

1. YES

2. YES

3. What "least" angel?

4. John the Baptist was an Old Covenant Prophet since He taught and lived Old Covenant ways, this while preparing people for the New Way to come. This is why Jesus Christ said of John that the least in the Kingdom of God, of which John does not even belong to, is greater than John. Those of us of God's New Covenant are greater than those of them of the Old Covenant - the Old Covenant people were not promised the Kingdom of God aka Heaven in the Old Covenant.

Also, John died before the New Covenant was ratified and so was never able to accept it before his death.

5. Rather than attack people here and there, put more of that energy into comprehending what is written in your scripture..

ifiokjohn:
1. And you also make God a liar in MIcah 5:2 where God spoke about Christ.

2. And you also make Christ and Peter a liar when Peter inspired by God called Christ the Son of God.


3. And you also make King David a liar when he said "The Lord said to my Lord".
You also make this verse a liar that said..
"And to the Son he said, thy Throne o God".
And you also make 1John1 a liar.
And you also make the book of Revelation where Jesus called himself "Alpha and Omega" a liar.


4. Do you know Jesus Christ said, "all that belongs to God belongs to him"..
And we know that this below belongs to God.

Worship
Riches
Glory.
Honour
Power
Might
Righteousness..
Reverence etc.
And yet Jesus said they all belongs to him. Can just a prophet make this claim?

5. What Jesus claim and say, just a prophet can't make it. Even Elijah will never say all that belongs to God belongs to him bro.

6. You lack knowledge of the Bible..
Like I said, you claim to know but you know nothing.

1. How can be accused of making God a liar there when I told you that Jesus Christ, the prophet is also a King?

2. I never said Jesus Christ is not the Son of God so how can it be construed that I call God Himself for introducing,from Heaven, on at least 2 recorded times, Jesus Christ as His Son?

3. I have not once accused Jesus Christ or God of being a liar since I do not deny Him who He is in any of the instance you point to. Instead, you are the one who deny the fact that Jesus Christ is also a Prophet, just as God said and Jesus Christ Himself confirmed.

4. Yes, a Prophet can and is all of that and His name is Jesus Christ

5. According to Scripture, Jesus Christ is a Prophet. You adding "just" to it is or own delusion and need to twist what is written to suit your mental delusion. The question is is Jesus Christ a Prophet and the simple answer to that question is Yes!

6. Learn to argue sensible first, leave your need to win at all cost for later. Read and accept is written in that book as is without needing to add your own petty interpretation with which to delude yourself with.

UtuokeAlcoholic:
Deaf, dumb and blind, they will never understand. Your intellect is lower than any known and unknown beast.
I'm sorry your comprehension disability is not my fault.

Ah, now I know why you follow your stupid Mohamed....I will insult him and nothing go happen....get used to it ....He is a camel fucking idi*t who slept with camels for free...stole from caravan and deceived all you idiots to follow his imaginative god alah ....you can incite ur mob all u want ure all senseless

lexy2014:


You have absolutely nothing to translate. If u did, u would have done it long ago.

You didn't answer the question. Do you agree to the condition? Yes or no

UtuokeAlcoholic:
You didn't answer the question. Do you agree to the condition? Yes or no

You are the one who didn't answer my question because despite your claim that Deborah insulted Mohammed, uptill u haven't been able to provide the tiniest atom of proof

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ, the God over "Christians" was killed, and so were many of His disciples, who by choosing to obey Him met their death at the hands of the sword. Are you a better Christian than those disciples that your life must be preserved against even the commandments of Jesus Christ?

yes am better than them and no one can brainwash me into dying for anyone

lexy2014:


You are the one who didn't answer my question because despite your claim that Deborah insulted Mohammed, uptill u haven't been able to provide the tiniest atom of proof

Yes or no. Do you agree?

UtuokeAlcoholic:
Yes or no. Do you agree?

Did u produce any condition before u accused Deborah of insulting Mohammed?