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Stormtrooper11:
Imagine you being so delusional. Below is your land audit report. Blacks held ransom by White landowners (godfathers) in their own country.

Just to settle this issue once and for all.. This is referred to as active farmlands, not farmable lands in total, this does not count the lands under tribal authorities. Blacks own a lot of farmable lands. My own family owns about 20 hectares of farmable land in KZN and Mpumalanga Provinces, it's not considered in the statistics by the Department of Land Affairs because it is land under tribal authorities.

Even the people you see in shacks of the Western Cape and Gauteng, their families own a lot of land in the Eastern Cape and KZN where they come from, they're not landless as some politicians want you to believe.

jl115:
generational wealth! that's why whites still have the majority of land and wealth ....unfortunately most black South Africans were denied the opportunity of building generational wealth because of obvious reasons.... That said its difficult with South Africa's complex history to ascertain what land was taken by force, what land was vacant, and what land was bought from one tribe/people from another.... We do have actual documentation of land bought by the Boers from other tribes and vice versa, just like we have proof of land taken by force by the boers and land being taken from the boers by force by other tribes and obviously between bantu tribes themselves.... The Zulu kingdom under the reign of Shaka for example killed more than 2million people during their conquest(Mfecane). At the end of the day who do you give the land to?? I mean EFF leader Julius Malama is always the first to say that land should be taken without compensation from white people but fails to acknowledge his own history as Pedi whoms land was taken firstly by the Ndwandwe, and then annex by the British,it was then the Boers whom not only released the Pedi King after defeating the British but also granted the Pedi kingdom independence once again....that said the Transvaal Republic and Pedi kingdom also had several disputes and wars in the years preceding the above.

The "vacant land" theory is 100% false, in fact, it was used by Boer settlers to later justify Aparthaied land grabs.

1. The land was ALWAYS settled by certain Bantu groups. Iron age tools dating as back as 200AD were found in South Africa. In fact we have a copper smelter dating back 12 000 years ago in South Africa, who smelted metals in SA? the Bantus, not Khoi.

2. Shaka Zulu wars did not kill 2 million people, there was never that amount of people in the region in the first place. In fact, Shaka's regiments were about a few 1000 warriors the most. Even in the chain of events (Mfecane), there was no way 2 million people could have been killed directly or indirect (because; the first reason in this point).

3. Land sold to the "Boer settlers" is a myth. Vortrekkers claim that Dingani (Dingaan) signed off the land from Durban to Vryheid to them. They claim that he signed a contract written in Dutch. A Zulu man that has never seen written text was given a contract in Dutch to sign off 33% of the Kingdom to some guys who came from across the ocean? It's a laughable and invalid claim.

On the other hand, I do not agree with EFF's land policy, in fact, I don't agree with any of their policies, politics or whatever economic ideologies they have.

GreenandGold:
The "vacant land" theory is 100% false, in fact, it was used by Boer settlers to later justify Aparthaied land grabs.

1. The land was ALWAYS settled by certain Bantu groups. Iron age tools dating as back as 200AD were found in South Africa. In fact we have an copper smelter dating back 12 000 years ago in South Africa, who smelted metals in SA? the Bantus, not Khoi.

2. Shaka Zulu wars did not kill 2 million people, there was never that amount of people in the region in the first place. In fact, Shaka's regiments were about a few 1000 warriors the most. Even in the chain of events (Mfecane), there was no way 2 million people could have been killed directly or indirect (because; the first reason in this point).

3. Land sold to the "Boer settlers" is a myth. Vortrekkers claim that Dingani (Dingaan) signed off the land from Durban to Vryheid to them. They claim that he signed a contract written in Dutch. A Zulu man that has never seen written text was given a contract in Dutch to sign off 33% of the Kingdom to some guys who came across the ocean? It's a laughable and invalid claim.

South African Tomato Fight!!!!! Yea!!

kabe1:
South African Tomato Fight!!!!! Yea!!

Pass me popcorn bro!!

Odunayaw:
Pass me popcorn bro!!

For days now, I've wanted to tell the history discussants to get a room - i.e. start new own thread. The different perspectives, propaganda, falsehoods, ignorance etc means days and days of thread derailment, with no resolution.

Stray bullet about to hit Africans.

ANALYSIS: Proposed U.S. law seeks to punish African countries for ‘aligning’ with Russia
A new law to punish states that back certain Russian actions could have major implications for African countries.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/531252-analysis-proposed-u-s-law-seeks-to-punish-african-countries-for-aligning-with-russia.html

Lurker4Long:

For days now, I've wanted to tell the history discussants to get a room - i.e. start new own thread. The different perspectives, propaganda, falsehoods, ignorance etc means days and days of thread derailment, with no resolution.

I'm sure if you look closely at the forumers with a penchant for messing up the thread, you will be able to draw out the letters needed to spell OBSTINATE

Nemesis4you:
I barely read news , news to me

Anyways depends on which country/countries brics member/members want to include

Without consensus not possible

Knowing chi.na they will drag in bankrupt pa.... surely , good luck to them

Anyways you guys heard of Sri Lanka situation ? totally bankrupt and riots , not so long ago Western media and their ind... stooges were jumping on Sri lankan excellent economic indices published by Western agencies versus ind... , not even a year past entire economy folded, and chin.ese dept trap was always there

And now a burden on ind... for running their country, best to do a Ukraine on them... oops sorry Iraq on them ( morally acceptable/justifiable now )

Last para is my attempt at satire

Tbh then prez Mahinda Rajapakse screwed Sri Lanka and himself signing the 1.5 bn $ Hambantota airport deal meant to be the lynchpin of a new Dubai. When Beijing repossessed it the West immediately pointed fingers but imo that was a Rajapakse fkup. Then his bro in 2020 banned all chemicals in farming leading to a 50% reduction in output. Same yr the usual suspects killed 200+ foreigners at the Easter church service and tourism nosedived followed by the ' Rona drama.
Imo there were a number of blunders that cascaded into the perfect storm.

kikuyu1:
Tbh then prez Mahinda Rajapakse screwed Sri Lanka and himself signing the 1.5 bn $ Hambantota airport deal meant to be the lynchpin of a new Dubai. When Beijing repossessed it the West immediately pointed fingers but imo that was a Rajapakse fkup. Then his bro in 2020 banned all chemicals in farming leading to a 50% reduction in output. Same yr the usual suspects killed 200+ foreigners at the Easter church service and tourism nosedived followed by the ' Rona drama.
Imo there were a number of blunders that cascaded into the perfect storm.

And of course, hot on the heels of Hambantota came this nonsense.
Edward Ouko really ought not to work in any professional field, ever again!
https://theconversation.com/mombasa-port-how-kenyas-auditor-general-misread-chinas-standard-gauge-railway-contracts-182610?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1652775593

Lurker4Long:
And of course, hot on the heels of Hambantota came this nonsense.
Edward Ouko really ought not to work in any professional field, ever again!
https://theconversation.com/mombasa-port-how-kenyas-auditor-general-misread-chinas-standard-gauge-railway-contracts-182610?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1652775593

I said recently you MUST ignore some posts and their posters here for peace of mind. On another thread I gave stats showing that "fact" was as fake as a 3 sh coin but gave up upon discovering some were emotionally attached to that comedy script. If you don't ignore some ishyt you'll endlessly suffer the sound of screeching, crying and dycknoise from those who fall into these broad groups:
- those who truly THINK they know
- those who pretend to know
-those who want to baffle with BS and distraction when confronted with uncomfortable facts
- closely related are the guys EMOTIONALLY attached to certain narratives no matter how false who'll ignore all and any facts and figures to repeat their comfortable falsities.
Know that and know peace!

kikuyu1:
I said recently you MUST ignore some posts and their posters here for peace of mind. On another thread I gave stats showing that "fact" was as fake as a 3 sh coin but gave up upon discovering some were emotionally attached to that comedy script. If you don't ignore some ishyt you'll endlessly suffer the sound of screeching, crying and dycknoise from those who fall into these broad groups:
- those who truly THINK they know
- those who pretend to know
-those who want to baffle with BS and distraction when confronted with uncomfortable facts
- closely related are the guys EMOTIONALLY attached to certain narratives no matter how false who'll ignore all and any facts and figures to repeat their comfortable falsities.
Know that and know peace!

Louder, for the kids at the back!

kikuyu1:
On another thread I gave stats showing that "fact" was as fake as a 3 sh coin but gave up upon discovering some were emotionally attached to that comedy script.

One of our funds was quite heavy on Kenya and took a caning. Institutional investors didn't want to hear a single word of protestation. A senior member of your Treasury graciously agreed to come on a conference call to help us stanch the bleeding, that helped but the damage had been done.

jl115:
we are all in fact colonisers of South Africa (Black and White) it was only the khoi people that are indigenous to SA..... Ironically the khoi SAN were not white enough in apartheid to benefit from it and now ain't black enough to benefit from BEE and AA....

Even though back then everyone participated in the conquest of Southern Africa, today its just easier politically to blame everything on the whitey

Still! it doesn't change the fact that 'white south Africans' are settlers. Besides, since when did white people become indigenous to Africa? Black people have more legitimate right to claim does land than some Whitey.

Gireiboy:
[s]Still! it doesn't change the fact that 'white south Africans' are settlers. Besides, since when did white people become indigenous to Africa? Black people have more legitimate right to claim does land than some Whitey[/s].

This is unacceptable, it's racist and not the sort of thinking we have come to expect in this thread.

Please desist.

kabe1:
This is unacceptable, it's racist and not the sort of thinking we have come to expect in this thread.

Please desist.

How is it racist? i just don't care about white people feelings, i don't think that makes me a racist.

Gireiboy:
How is it racist? i just don't care about white people feelings, i don't think that makes me a racist.

You'd get a ban

kabe1:
SAS KING SEKHUKHUNE, South African Navy

She's beautiful. The aesthetics, sleek design.

Tinfoil:
Oh really, Don't blame whitey, what about apartheid

did I condone apartheid?

GreenandGold:
The "vacant land" theory is 100% false, in fact, it was used by Boer settlers to later justify Aparthaied land grabs.

1. The land was ALWAYS settled by certain Bantu groups. Iron age tools dating as back as 200AD were found in South Africa. In fact we have a copper smelter dating back 12 000 years ago in South Africa, who smelted metals in SA? the Bantus, not Khoi.

2. Shaka Zulu wars did not kill 2 million people, there was never that amount of people in the region in the first place. In fact, Shaka's regiments were about a few 1000 warriors the most. Even in the chain of events (Mfecane), there was no way 2 million people could have been killed directly or indirect (because; the first reason in this point).

3. Land sold to the "Boer settlers" is a myth. Vortrekkers claim that Dingani (Dingaan) signed off the land from Durban to Vryheid to them. They claim that he signed a contract written in Dutch. A Zulu man that has never seen written text was given a contract in Dutch to sign off 33% of the Kingdom to some guys who came from across the ocean? It's a laughable and invalid claim.

On the other hand, I do not agree with EFF's land policy, in fact, I don't agree with any of their policies, politics or whatever economic ideologies they have.

You say vacant land is a 100% myth but then contradict yourself by saying that 2 million people could not have died in the mfecane because there weren't so many people?? How can so few people occupy all the land in SA?

1. I'm simply going by factual evidence that Bantu tribes migrated to South Africa happened around 1000-1300 AD

2. Again my statement is backed by historical evidence... If you have evidence contradicting mine please post it

3. Not a myth.... Again its documented historical fact... If you hace evidence to the contrary please post it

We have that in common

P. S I would love your perspective on SAN history not necessarily saying my post above is 100% factual but simply based of my own research.... We can start another thread if you like

Gireiboy:
Still! it doesn't change the fact that 'white south Africans' are settlers. Besides, since when did white people become indigenous to Africa? Black people have more legitimate right to claim does land than some Whitey.

so Germans had the right to invade the entire Europe because they are white?

The Nigerian Military's Air Task Force (ATF) of Operation Hadin Kai has obliterated Boko Haram/ Islamic State of West African (ISWAP) terrorists convoy and killed scores of terrorists in an air raid in the North East of Borno,"Zagazola report.



A top Intelligence sources told Zagazola Makama, a Counter Terrorism Expert and Security Analyst in the LakeChad that the successful air interdiction mission was executed on May 21, at Wara Wara- village in Damboa Local government area.



The sources said that in continuation of its employment of air-power to decimate the capability of the insurgents, has successfully taken off another convoys of the insurgents.



The sources disclosed that the air raid was launched under the subsidiary Operation Desert Sanity, after series of surveillance missions which indicated terrorists activities around Korede, Shettima Affor, Kalolowa village and Wara Wara villages under Damboa.



He said that the Super Tucano scored a devastating hit and destroyed four guntrucks noting that Several of their fighters were also killed in the process.



Zagazola understand that at about 0800 hourz, a team of the terrorists headed toward Wara Wara- to evacuate some of the dead Mujahedeens and headed toward Litawa village, in Damboa axis, a position where they would later hold funeral prayers for the deceased.

Nigerian Air Force aircrafts at the Mallam Aminu Kano International Airport.
Several NAF aircrafts will take part in flybys to mark the 58th anniversary of the service.

From left to right.

• PAC MFI-17 Mushshak
• 3x A29 ST
• 2x L-39ZA
• 3x Alpha jets
• 3x JF-17

NPF will soon take delivery of an unknown number of Panthera T8 3DR from MSPV.

jl115:
did I condone apartheid?

Nevermind, it actually doesn't matter. The good thing is that although SA has challenges it is currently at peace, the future belongs to God.

Ive nothing against whitey, my children are half white

Tinfoil:
Nevermind, it actually doesn't matter. The good thing is that although SA has challenges it is currently at peace, the future belongs to God.

Ive nothing against whitey, my children are half white

shot

Nigerian and Tchad military

jl115:
You say vacant land is a 100% myth but then contradict yourself by saying that 2 million people could not have died in the mfecane because there weren't so many people?? How can so few people occupy all the land in SA?

1. I'm simply going by factual evidence that Bantu tribes migrated to South Africa happened around 1000-1300 AD

2. Again my statement is backed by historical evidence... If you have evidence contradicting mine please post it

3. Not a myth.... Again its documented historical fact... If you hace evidence to the contrary please post it

We have that in common

P. S I would love your perspective on SAN history not necessarily saying my post above is 100% factual but simply based of my own research.... We can start another thread if you like

1. You're not going to be factual, iron age settlements date back to 200AD.

2. South African population was about 1 million people at the beginning of Shaka's reign, this ALSO includes the populations of the Khoi, Dutch, French, German, Malay, Madagascan and English populations in the Cape Colony. Shaka's direct wars did not go beyond Pongola river and the modern-day Eastern Cape. Even the chiefdoms he scarted had smaller regiments that would have caused not more than a few thousand deaths to the populations they met in their exiles.

3. Your so-called documented "passing of land" contract from Dingani to Piet Retief is a Voortrekker fairytale. It's a void contract that Dingani never read nor signed, signed only by Piet Retief himself and his so-called witnesses.

GreenandGold:
1. You're not going to be factual, iron age settlements date back to 200AD.

2. South African population was about 1 million people at the beginning of Shaka's reign, this ALSO includes the populations of the Khoi, Dutch, French, German, Malay, Madagascan and English populations in the Cape Colony. Shaka's direct wars did not go beyond Pongola river and the modern-day Eastern Cape. Even the chiefdoms he scarted had smaller regiments that would have caused not more than a few thousand deaths to the populations they met in their exiles.

3. Your so-called documented "passing of land" contract from Dingani to Piet Retief is a Voortrekker fairytale. It's a void contract that Dingani never read nor signed, signed only by Piet Retief himself and his so-called witnesses.

1.I'm simply quoting historical fact that stats most Bantu tribes arrived in South Africa(not Southern Africa) between 1000 - 1700ad

2.source?? Every research I found stipulated that the Mfecane resulted in the deaths of between 1mil-2mil.....also again if there were only 1 million people in SA how is it possible that there was No vacant land? Your arguments contradict each other...

3.the same Piet Retief that was clubbed to death along with all his so called witnesses?? My bru I'm talking long after that when the transvaal Republic had several treaties with the likes of the Pedi tribes and Zulu tribes....

Troops from Nigeria, Chad and Niger conduct joint COIN operations.

jl115:
so Germans had the right to invade the entire Europe because they are white?

Like i said, i don't give a damn about the feelings of a white person.

Tinfoil:
Nevermind, it actually doesn't matter. The good thing is that although SA has challenges it is currently at peace, the future belongs to God.

Ive nothing against whitey, my children are half white

Black people will be justified for having something against Whites(Read your history books)

Gireiboy:
Like i said, i don't give a damn about the feelings of a white person.

congrats my bru maybe you don't know but neither do I care about your opinion