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Android22:
Was Draymond not a role player? When Steph was out was Draymond not the laughing stock of the NBA? When did Wiggins do anything of note for GSW without Curry playing? What about Klay? I hope you can see how you made my points for me. Curry helped all those people get the all star selections they got. Without him, they were all treated as bad to mid players.

Green is a 3x DPOY,if Draymond is a role player then Rodman, Ben Wallace, Mutombo are all role players.
Now it is Steph that helped Klay get all-star selection, so Klay is not one of the 5 greatest shooters ever? Please Fera God

Android22:
Luka is not a more versatile scorer than Jokic. Luka is almost a 1 trick pony. Jokic can post you up, shoot the mid range, 3 pt etc. Jokic is a more versatile passer. Luka's passing game is predominantly collapse the defense and pass to the wings. If they make the shot, good or else nothing. Luka is just expected to score more than Jokic and he does it which is why he is great. If you want to talk about a wobbly roster, then you can make the argument for Jokic which is why he is the MVP. Until then, Luka is still up and coming.

Jokic is a center for crying out loud!!! He is supposed to have more post ups than doncic. Doncic cannot post up? Why am I even continuing this discussion? You are beginning to sound like a livescore merchant. Forget about the games. Do you even watch highlights? Na wa. You are saying all doncic does is penetrate and pass out to the wings. What else is he supposed to do? Does he have a decent center to run pick n rolls with? Mavs play a five out system, he does what is expected of him. Jokic does what is expected of him in the system nuggets play. So what you are saying makes no sense. So doncic should play differently from his team's tactics so he can validate himself in your eyes as the better player? Abeg...

Android22:
You choked game 2 because the Warriors are playing better than you. Nets also led Celtics by 15 or so in game 2 and still lost. Is it by shooting 3 pt shots without knowing you will drop down to the mean? Did Luka not see his team losing? What did he do about it?

What is he supposed to do when they trap him, if it's not to pass. Is it his fault that when he passes out of a double team, his teammate fail to make the shot. Or will he pass and also shoot at the same time

Khanben:
Oga you do not watch games at all. Saying Luka does not have a post just shows you don't watch basketball. Luka that was backng down a 7ft center does not have a post game. Oha fear God

I am pretty sure even Kyrie will have some highlights of posting up players. Just like McGee and Howard have made 3 pt shots. That does not mean they have it in their repertoire. I hope you get it.

Thanos:
Jokic is a center for crying out loud!!! He is supposed to have more post ups than doncic. Doncic cannot post up? Why am I even continuing its discussion. Yo u are beginning to sound like a livescore merchant. Forget about the games, do you even watch highlights? Na was. You are saying all doncic does is penetrate a pass out to the winds. What else is he supposed to do? Does he have a decent center to run pick n rolls's with. Mavs play a five out system, he does what is expected of him. Jokic does what is expected of him in the system nuggets play. So what you are saying makes no sense. So doncic should play differently form his teams tactics so he can validate himself in your eyes as the better player? Abeg...

The guy actually sat down and typed that Luka cannot post up players,
Either he is a troll or he does not games at all

Khanben:
Green is a 3x DPOY,if Draymond is a role player then Rodman, Ben Wallace, Mutombo are all role players.
Now it is Steph that helped Klay get all-star selection, so Klay is not one of the 5 greatest shooters ever? Please Fera God

lol. You don't know who you are talking to. Draymond 3× DPOY? That is news to me.

So when someone is a great shooter it means all star selection? Steve Kerr, Tim Legler and co did not get the memo then. Lol

Android22:
I am pretty sure even Kyrie will have some highlights of posting up players. Just like McGee and Howard have made 3 pt shots. That does not mean they have it in their repertoire. I hope you get it.

Oga Luka has the best post game of any wing player alive today. Name name let's people judge. he was killing the runners up for DPOY in the post, a 7ft center and ever single member of the Suns apart from Javale in the post

Thanos:
Jokic is a center for crying out loud!!! He is supposed to have more post ups than doncic. Doncic cannot post up? Why am I even continuing this discussion? You are beginning to sound like a livescore merchant. Forget about the games. Do you even watch highlights? Na wa. You are saying all doncic does is penetrate and pass out to the wings. What else is he supposed to do? Does he have a decent center to run pick n rolls with? Mavs play a five out system, he does what is expected of him. Jokic does what is expected of him in the system nuggets play. So what you are saying makes no sense. So doncic should play differently from his team's tactics so he can validate himself in your eyes as the better player? Abeg...

Who is GSWs decent center? Let me use one liners to show you gaping holes in your basketball knowledge.

Khanben:
The guy actually sat down and typed that Luka cannot post up players,
Either he is a troll or he does not games at all

Na we dey fuel him fire. Luka has played Zubac, gobert and Dayton off the floor in his short post season career. I can bet my left balls this guy does not watch even those 2 minute highlights NBA posts on their youtube channel. Lol. This is no longer trolling, he is just talking from a place of ignorance

Khanben:
What is he supposed to do when they trap him, if it's not to pass. Is it his fault that when he passes out of a double team, his teammate fail to make the shot. Or will he pass and also shoot at the same time

Is he the first person to face a trap? Is that not Currys life?

Android22:
lol. You don't know who are talking to. Draymond 3× DPOY? That is news to me.

So when someone is a great shooter it means all star selection? Steve Kerr, Tim Legler and co did not get the memo then. Lol

Which of the people list is a shooter, Ben Wallace,Mutombo, Rodman

Thanos:
And luka plays bad because his 3 & D players cannot make a shot to save their lives. I can do this all day bro

If he moved better, quit ball hogging and iso ball, he could create better looks for them and maybe they'd shoot better. Spencer is averaging 20ppg.

Android22:
Is he the first person to face a trap? Is that not Currys life?

When curry faced a trap, he lost

Khanben:
Oga Luka has the best post game of any wing player alive today. Name name let's people judge. he was killing the runners up for DPOY in the post, a 7ft center and ever single member of the Suns apart from Javale in the post

of course. The tail wags the dog analyst.

Khanben:
When curry faced a trap, he lost

So no NBA player has ever lost a game? Lol

Skrrrrrrr:
If he moved better, quit ball hogging and iso ball, he could create better looks for them and maybe they'd shoot better. Spencer is averaging 20ppg.

How is he ball hogging when Spencer and Brunson are both averaging 20pts. Please try and make sense. Just say you're looking at boxscores instead of watching the game and let's end this farce

Android22:
Who is GSWs decent center? Let me use one liners to show you gaping holes in your basketball knowledge.

Bros. Rest. You win abeg. This is no longer a basketball discourse. This is just a hater going on a rant. You are no longer objectively analysing the game and for that, I am out. Peace.

Thanos:
Na we dey fuel him fire. Luka has played Zubac, gobert and Dayton off the floor in his short post season career. I can bet my left balls this guy does not watch even those 2 minute highlights NBA posts on their youtube channel. Lol. This is no longer trolling, he is just talking from a place of ignorance

You are new here. I thought you were an oldie with a new account. Hahha. Good one.

Khanben:
Which of the people list is a shooter, Ben Wallace,Mutombo, Rodman

Is that your way of accepting you lied about Draymond or did your post not mention Klay Thompson as well.

What did Draymond do when Curry was out?

Skrrrrrrr:
If he moved better, quit ball hogging and iso ball, he could create better looks for them and maybe they'd shoot better. Spencer is averaging 20ppg.

Don't mind them. Luka that dribbles the ball down to 4 secs. Lol

Thanos:
Bros. Rest. You win abeg. This is no longer a basketball discourse. This is just a hater going on a rant. You are no longer objectively analysing the game and for that, I am out. Peace.

My G, don't let the door hit you on your way out.

Skrrrrrrr:
If he moved better, quit ball hogging and iso ball, he could create better looks for them and maybe they'd shoot better. Spencer is averaging 20ppg.

You are simply regugitating narrative from paid analysts who's job is to stir the honest nest for views. How many mavs games have you watched this season? Bros. Forget matter. Na my team, I follow them religiously, I no be ESPN merchant. If you think this team is been held back by doncic's offense, then I drop my keypad because I no get power for that kind beer parlour talk.
https://synergysports.com/impacting-other-players-shot-quality/
Educate yourself. You are nigerian so unfortunately, reading such extended analysis might be difficult but try abeg.

Android22:
Don't mind them. Luka that dribbles the ball down to 4 secs. Lol

Educate yourself and stop all these strawman arguments. Armchair analyst sha. Them give this one GM role in any NBA team and watch as the team would get relegated in a league where relegation is impossible.

Android22:
You are new here. I thought you were an oldie with a new account. Hahha. Good one.

New? I've done more talking on nairaland in the past one hour than I have done in 6 years bros. I don't like debating the sport because it always ends up in shit flinging up and down. While that is fun in little doses, it gets exhausting over time abeg. Still, I sha don tell you. Remove the blindfold, stop the luka hate. Appreciate greatness. And don't forget, MAVS IN 7!!!

Thanos:
Educate yourself and stop all these strawman arguments. Armchair analyst sha. Them give this one GM role in any NBA team and watch as the team would get relegated in a league where relegation is impossible.

I don't need to be comprehensive with you, you are all hot air and no substance. If Luka gives up the ball every 8 seconds after it is checked in would he put up 40 points? You talk about Brunson and Dinwiddie but those guys are having decent numbers because they are the only ones that can create their own shots aside Luka. Who else on the warriors can create their own shots apart from Poole and Curry? I'll wait.

Thanos:
New? I've done more talking on nairaland in the past one hour than I have done in 6 years bros. I don't like debating the sport because it always ends up in shit flinging up and down. While that is fun in little doses, it gets exhausting over time abeg. Still, I sha don tell you. Remove the blindfold, stop the luka hate. Appreciate greatness. And don't forget, MAVS IN 7!!!

Luka hate? LOL. Whatevs man.

Khanben:
He has done more for the Mavs in his first 4yrs than Dirk did is his first 10yrs with the team

Dirk beat a Miami team that had Wade, Bosh and LeBron. Luca is down 3 against curry, Wiggins and poole.

Khanben:
One guy has a team with 4 Allstars and the other has a team with 1 allstar and all of a sudden his team is better. GSW has 3 players on a Max or super max contract, mavs have only 1. Poole has who is the 6th man has a better contract option than the mavs 2nd best player in Brunson . So all of a sudden the mavs are better
Get out of here with your crap

Those guys are only All stars because they play with Steph. Was wiggins an all star before he joined the warriors, would Green Genuinely be an all star if he played somewhere else.
What about Klay, dude was an all start 2 seasons ago, the funny thing is that Spencer dwindle is averaging more PPG than all those guys.

Khanben:
Green is a 3x DPOY,if Draymond is a role player then Rodman, Ben Wallace, Mutombo are all role players.
Now it is Steph that helped Klay get all-star selection, so Klay is not one of the 5 greatest shooters ever? Please Fera God

Lol. Green only won DPOY once, and that was like 5 years ago and he only made an all NBA defensive team once since then. Who dash am 3x DPOY, without Steph on that Team, Draymond won't be shit. Also Klay just missed two years.

Android22:
I don't need to be comprehensive with you, you are all hot air and no substance. If Luka gives up the ball every 8 seconds after it is checked in would he put up 40 points? You talk about Brunson and Dinwiddie but those guys are having decent numbers because they are the only ones that can create their own shots aside Luka. Who else on the warriors can create their own shots apart from Poole and Curry? I'll wait.

Klay, curry,poole,wiggins are all stars. Bro, you are better than this na.
2- The problem with you people is that in your mind, basketball can only be played in one way and manner. If it's not played that way, it is rubbish. You do not seem to understand that coaching and personnel go a long way in determining how your team plays. Andrew Wiggins is the 4th best player on GSW. On my mavs team, he would be the second option. That is a fact. After doncic, the talent difference between him and our second best player is so wide, you can fit a spaceship in it. Dinwiddie is having a career renaissance because of doncic not in spite of doncic. Someone that was rotting away on the wizard's bench. These guys are only in the playoffs because of the quality of Luka, not other way around. They do not have the players to play the system you believe qualifies as great basketball. Moreover, he is still young. He has time. Every point you have used to against luka has actually shown how much more he is doing with less. Every remaining team has at least 2 all star players or all defense players. Luka is the lone star on this team and has brought them this far. If you cannot understand that....
https://synergysports.com/impacting-other-players-shot-quality/

Android22:
I don't need to be comprehensive with you, you are all hot air and no substance. If Luka gives up the ball every 8 seconds after it is checked in would he put up 40 points? You talk about Brunson and Dinwiddie but those guys are having decent numbers because they are the only ones that can create their own shots aside Luka. Who else on the warriors can create their own shots apart from Poole and Curry? I'll wait.

That one touch me abeg. Make I add am to my repertoire.

Khanben:
How is he ball hogging when Spencer and Brunson are both averaging 20pts. Please try and make sense. Just say you're looking at boxscores instead of watching the game and let's end this farce

Doncic dribbles the ball down the shot clock. That is a ball hogger. Spencer and Brunson can create their own shots, they won against the jazz without Doncic.