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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by fabyom: 5:02am On Jun 08, 2022
Joebie:
love dey the main pitch grin
Relax Joebie! My boys will shock you! They really enjoy Pasiero's training methods!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by drDoom3(m): 7:00am On Jun 08, 2022
Odunayaw:
We no get. 4-4-2 na limited liability company for us with the kind of player set we have o

I think it is actually a smart move.

We are world class in one area alone - CF.

Then, just overload that position and the quality of your players will pull you through.

E.g Norway plays 4-4-2 with Haaland and Sorloth who are the same type of striker. Uruguay with Cavani and Suarez. Etc.

No need to be romancing sexy wingplay like Eguavoen was doing. Just put your best players on the pitch and they will show why they are your best.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 7:05am On Jun 08, 2022
fabyom:
Relax Joebie! My boys will shock you! They really enjoy Pasiero's training methods!
won ti fi training clip ko baba ni omi obe jé

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 7:40am On Jun 08, 2022
drDoom3:


I think it is actually a smart move.

We are world class in one area alone - CF.

Then, just overload that position and the quality of your players will pull you through.

E.g Norway plays 4-4-2 with Haaland and Sorloth who are the same type of striker. Uruguay with Cavani and Suarez. Etc.

No need to be romancing sexy wingplay like Eguavoen was doing. Just put your best players on the pitch and they will show why they are your best.

How do you plan on getting the ball to the strikers then, Hoofball and hope?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by fabyom: 7:41am On Jun 08, 2022
Amedino99:
won ti fi training clip ko baba ni omi obe jé
lolllll funny OG!!! The boys confirmed it themselves!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by fabyom: 7:43am On Jun 08, 2022
Subzero047:


How do you plan on getting the ball to the strikers then, Hoofball and hope?
What type of question is this?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 7:43am On Jun 08, 2022
TheLoneCitizen:


Because Dessers doesn't like it. Man is technically better than Moffi, but gave that role to him.

Osimhen will run.

Osimhen will not play supporting striker to anyone, he is technically deficient in that area, I hope Dessers is a world class link up player because otherwise I don't see how this formation is going to work

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 7:44am On Jun 08, 2022
Chukwueze and Simon as wide midfielders in a 4-4-2 take me back to Rohr!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by comodo: 9:51am On Jun 08, 2022
Subzero047:
Chukwueze and Simon as wide midfielders in a 4-4-2 take me back to Rohr!
With Iwobi, Chukwueze can function well. But Simon I doubt cos he will never give that pass to free himself or even try to recycle the ball. This game might be the beginning of his bench warming in SE. I over heard Pajero in one of his trainings screaming at them, Short passes!!!!! Don't hold the ball!!!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 9:52am On Jun 08, 2022
Subzero047:


Osimhen will not play supporting striker to anyone, he is technically deficient in that area, I hope Dessers is a world class link up player because otherwise I don't see how this formation is going to work

Osimhen played supporting striker to Ighalo, my brother.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 9:55am On Jun 08, 2022
AndSunGorilla:

Yes Osimhen can run all day but are you suggesting that Dessers will dictate to Pacero how and where he wants to play or be played?

This name.

We will see though, but Dessers I know doesn't enjoy himself when not close to goal.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 10:09am On Jun 08, 2022
TheLoneCitizen:
Napoli will not sell Osimhen next summer. Confirmed!
Just asked again to confirm and it's credible!

Osimhen will not leave Napoli this year except something drastic happens, the club will frustrate any club that shows interest.
Osimhen on the other hand is okay with this.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:27am On Jun 08, 2022
comodo:

With Iwobi, Chukwueze can function well. But Simon I doubt cos he will never give that pass to free himself or even try to recycle the ball. This game might be the beginning of his bench warming in SE. I over heard Pajero in one of his trainings screaming at them, Short passes!!!!! Don't hold the ball!!!
Oga Comdo,pls is there any difference between Chuckwueze and Simon in GWG of late even one can say Simon is better....am not really sold on our players again until they proved otherwise and Sierra Leone match will not be the real test but hope to see Peseiro impact as the team progress.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chuks404: 10:43am On Jun 08, 2022
AndSunGorilla:

My brother na so me sef reason am jare. Bet make we dey sidon dey look with the hope that this coach succeeds with whatever formation he wants to use. But then from his friendly games, I think he is quick to tweak his formation if it's not working.
this is main reason I like the man. He is good at that . do you think SL has better midfielders than Mexico and Ecuador?Peserio controlled the second half of those games with iwobi and aribo and his 442 approach is quite flexible. I don't really like the way they underrate our players. anyway tomorrow is already here

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Tinneh: 12:14pm On Jun 08, 2022
Subzero047:


Osimhen will not play supporting striker to anyone, he is technically deficient in that area, I hope Dessers is a world class link up player because otherwise I don't see how this formation is going to work
Can't remember the game under Rohr but I think oshimen played SS to ighalo
Correct me if I'm wrong boss
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:18pm On Jun 08, 2022
Vs Capeverde at the TBS, Lagos.

Tinneh:

Can't remember the game under Rohr but I think oshimen played SS to ighalo
Correct me if I'm wrong boss

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 12:36pm On Jun 08, 2022
fabyom:
lolllll funny OG!!! The boys confirmed it themselves!
Do you honestly want them to say their coach's training methods are bad?

Modified
Changed "know" to "say"

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:46pm On Jun 08, 2022
This is true especially for the second half but we still had problem checking how they steamrolled through the middle anytime they went forward especially in the first half.

We did recover ourselves in the middle game after half time but Bassey (playing LB) made more recoveries than both midfielders that day. Aribo did his best in duels winning 8 (Iwobi won 7) but the MF vs Ecuador cried for a genuine ball winner who is also a decent passer to complement the Deeplying playmaking of Iwobi.

When Ndidi returns and we have to maintain the 442, my two CM picks would be Ndidi and Iwobi. Yes, Iwobi over Aribo based on his ability to dictate from deep which is something Aribo cannot offer. The ease with which Iwobi switched plays, controlled our sequence of plays and created huge chances through the middle reveal this.


Aribo may need to take a rest in a 2man Midfield if Ndidi returns and Iwobi keeps up this rejuvenated form unless Peseiro moves to a 3 man midfield which will accommodate all 3 with Iwobi playing deeper as the DLP/CM-playmaker and Aribo doing his thing further forward, close to the box and ofcos with Ndidi being Ndidi.




Note:
This analysis is based on Iwobi's obvious post-afcon transformation into a surebet in the deep, CM roles.

Don't forget I strongly criticised his Afcon performance which was truly shambolic but post afcon, the lad is reborn.

His evolution since he returned to Everton under Lampard saw a marked difference between the Iwobi who played under Benitez and the one who did so under Lampard.

On twitter, I compared both times and his transformation is remarkable. His workrate too has gotten better.

It's amazing how I have been crying out for a deeplying creative outlet through the middle and had eyes only for Nwakali and Alhassan because they are through and through bonafide CM operators with a creative conducting brain for middle game plays and also because it seemed Iwobi wasn't gonna be played any deeper, anytime soon even though when he has in times past at Arsenal showed good potential there. Iwobi was on my list of options to be tried deeper but not at the fore front because of how coaches kept using him at Everton until Lampard came.

Right now... Iwobi is the guy I wanna see manning that Deeplying CM role... conducting plays and running the show. He is in such good form and high on confidence that any other DLP/CM option will only be welcome to play backup from the bench right now.



chuks404:
this is main reason I like the man. He is good at that . do you think SL has better midfielders than Mexico and Ecuador? Peserio controlled the second half of those games with iwobi and aribo and his 442 approach is quite flexible. I don't really like the way they underrate our players. anyway tomorrow is already here

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zuchyblink(m): 12:49pm On Jun 08, 2022
Our Banku bredas are coming with fire

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:50pm On Jun 08, 2022
Tinneh:

Can't remember the game under Rohr but I think oshimen played SS to ighalo
Correct me if I'm wrong boss
I thought it was Osimehn and Awoniyi against CAR.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:56pm On Jun 08, 2022
Simon was only better at the Afcon. Post-Afcon he has been the epitome of woeful, truth be told.

For instance, Against Ecuador, Simon Moses made 14 cross attempts... ONLY 3 were accurate.

In comparison, Bassey made 5 cross attempts and 2 were accurate. A better ratio. Even Aribo made 2 crosses and 1 was successful. Iwobi made more long balls than crosses but when he did cross, it was successful.
Simon, right now is wasteful with his crossing. They look so aimless.

Like I said on twitter when analysing the game, Moses Simon needs to add "purpose" and "aim" to his balls into the box and infact to his overall gameplay.

Right now, Simon is really really really NOT it. But I hope he gets better than this.


Kog45:
Oga Comdo,pls is there any difference between Chuckwueze and Simon in GWG of late even one can say Simon is better....am not really sold on our players again until they proved otherwise and Sierra Leone match will not be the real test but hope to see Peseiro impact as the team progress.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:57pm On Jun 08, 2022
Osimhen and Iggy played against Cape Verde not CAR. He isn't talking about CAR.

Kog45:
I thought it was Osimehn and Awoniyi against CAR.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:03pm On Jun 08, 2022
All names. Team Chemistry still has to be established. It's the WC.

But this is good for their football. The WC Ticket has enabled them look attractive again and able to get several of these players who weren't even looking their way just a week after the Afcon.

Also, Felix Afena Gyan, Inaki Williams and Eddie Nketiah. Good headache to have in attack for Otto Addo.

zuchyblink:
Our Banku bredas are coming with fire

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:06pm On Jun 08, 2022
Hate it or love it but this post made me laugh my heart out... It's just the current reality of Moses Simon in the GWG right now until he can change things going forward.

grin grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 1:07pm On Jun 08, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
Hate it or love it but this post made me laugh my heart out... It's just the current reality of Moses Simon in the GWG right now until he can change things going forward.

grin grin


Moses hasn't made a poor cross under Peseiro tbh
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 1:08pm On Jun 08, 2022
zuchyblink:
Our Banku bredas are coming with fire


My Inaki finally comes home! That's real nice
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:16pm On Jun 08, 2022
Super Eagles vs Leone Stars: Battle encore

1. Dessers and Ekong in training.

2. L-R: Omeruo, Lookman, Dessers, Aribo digging it in.

3. Iwobi on the ball... Shehu backtracks and looks on.

4. L-R: Iwobi, Shehu, Osimhen, Lookman and Moses Simon who takes a strike towards goal.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:17pm On Jun 08, 2022
Let's not do this.

BascoVanVeli:



Moses hasn't made a poor cross under Peseiro tbh

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:23pm On Jun 08, 2022
Super Eagles vs Leone Stars: Battle Encore

1. New boy and GK, Adebayo Adeleye of Hapoel Katamon Jerusalem in the Israeli Top Flight.

2. Lookman and Simon look on as Bassey tries Shehu for size.

3. Bonke and Dennis.

4. Lookman dishing out "instructions" grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:29pm On Jun 08, 2022
Super Eagles vs Leone Stars: Battle Encore

1. Kung Fu Osimhen

2. Zaidu Mage Sanusi

3. Calvin Bassey Ughelumba... Defensive rave of the moment.

4. Sadiq Umar... The Sleeky Destroyer (Words not mine).

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 1:47pm On Jun 08, 2022
According to owngoal, Osimhen and Sadiq may start in attack

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 2:15pm On Jun 08, 2022
zuchyblink:
Our Banku bredas are coming with fire

'Almost' never kills.

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