juman:
Chest beating is the problem of SE.
They overrate themselves and underate others. Since the time of azikiwe o.

How... please explain.

CrazyMan:

Over the years, I've heard so many non-South Easterners claim that the south east is the weakest link in the political structure of Nigeria. Meaning they're politically irrelevant.

Recently, the son of the sitting Governor of Kaduna state El Rufai made a mockery comment about the South East saying the number of votes in a single local government in Kano state is larger than the entire south east. What this implies is that even if every man, woman, boy and girl in the entire south east vote a particular candidate, the votes from Kano state alone would easily cancel it...this is a very myopic reasoning if you ask me.

I would want to clarify that notion of most northerners who feel the SE has no voting power.

Bashir Elrufai is only making reference to what SE can offer his Party APC.
And by the way, if we have over 3m Igbo in Lagos, how come the total votes from the 2019 election is less than 1.2m

Because they are..

SeunTheOwner:


Bashir Elrufai is only making reference to what SE can offer his Party APC.
And by the way, if we have over 3m Igbo in Lagos, how come the total votes from the 2019 election is less than 1.2m

Are you aware that elections most pooling units in Lagos with high Igbo population were disrupted?

As for Elrufai Jnr I believe he wasn't referring to his party, he was referring to Peter Obi and trying to sarcastically explain why he should be ignored cos he wouldn't be a threat.

Michael004:
So is only igbos that travel to village during festive periods, yorubas don't travel abi, others don't travel abi.

Abeg getat.

Travel to where
Ajegunle to epe

CrazyMan:

Are you aware that elections most pooling units in Lagos with high Igbo population were disrupted?

As for Elrufai Jnr I believe he wasn't referring to his party, he was referring to Peter Obi and trying to sarcastically explain why he should be ignored cos he wouldn't be a threat.

Obi is not a threat in reality. How are you sure IPOB will not declare sit-at-home on the election?

CrazyMan:

Yes I knew it all started in 2015 that's why I voiced my opinion against it. See this my thread...

https://www.nairaland.com/2729562/need-good-leadership-se-not

It was created in the same 2015, when IPOB was winning the hearts of Igbos by gaining supporters on a daily basis. As someone based in the south east I could easily see that the movement was politically motivated. And if you take you time to go through it, you would see that I addressed a lot of issues we're suffering today. It's a pity that our people don't learn.

Kudos to you .

ponishah:

I am telling you for the second time stop deceiving people. Maybe you are doing it deliberately to launder image, igbos have not stopped that practice, it is a very bad stigma.
Did you marry any osu, or is any member of your relatives married to any osu?
It is an emphatic no, They don't marry them in their towns, the lucky ones who get married are to outsiders

Oga please how do you identify an OSU ?

Difrent:


Try to want to marry an Osu......then you will know if it has actually been abolished or not.
Such practices dont just go away like that

How do you identify an OSU person or family?

ponishah:

This is the major problem of igbos: blatant lies.
I am igbo too, but we tell to many lies, we see cheating as smartness.
Just imagine your question. So all the stories you read online and believe, do you go to their houses to verify?
WE are not trustworthy and we easily sell ourselves.
How many yoruba, hasa and Fulani politicians have come to the south east to do charity or take chieftaincy title? - orji kalu, rochas, amechi etc.
Enugu and abia state governors and other eastern politicians in pdp, knew that Peter obi was igbo closest shot at presidency and vice presidency, but they joined others propose to atiku to pick his vice from among pdp governors.

Igbos have no uniform political agenda, they just prefer to outsmart one another with their selfish personal agenda.

Haven't said that, igbos have trust issue in their blood. They feel any other tribe, culture, food, ladies, brain, environment, house, social party, tradition, stature behaviour etc are inferior.

Lastly, make igbos stop to dey deceive and kill people with fake, substandard and expire, drugs, goods,

And you say you are Igbo?

Chi see wasted spermatozoa

SeunTheOwner:


Obi is not a threat in reality. How are you sure IPOB will not declare sit-at-home on the election?

The reason why you feel Obi isn't a threat in reality is because Nigerians vote along ethnic and religious lines. Nigerians don't vote a candidate they feel can change the economic situation of the country but someone from their place.

In 2019, Buhari didn't participate in any presidential debate, it was Osibanjo who represented him in all the debates, this was a glaring red flag to Nigerians that Buhari has nothing to offer yet they ignored it and voted him. Today look at where we are. Desiel of about N200 is over N700. Inflation has risen to the high heavens, and all we can think of is voting another disaster next year....Chukwu hapụ ihe ọjọọ.

And don't worry about IPOB, they wouldn't do such, in fact Atiku would secretly make a pact with them and promise to release Kanu if they stand behind him, so that alone would calm them down.

Burruchaga71:
South East has only 5 states while others have 6 and above..

It doesn't matter. Igbos in other regions along with other tribes can still vote for Peter Obi.

CrazyMan:

The reason why you feel Obi isn't a threat in reality is because Nigerians vote along ethnic and religious lines. Nigerians don't vote a candidate they feel can change the economic situation of the country but someone from their place.

This is not totally true. People votes for who their local politicians presented to them. 1999 Obasanjo was presented as Baba Sorajo in the North and was voted massively. In 2011, I don't know how PDP managed to convince Nigeria to give GEJ 22m votes despite being a southern christian

In 2019, Buhari didn't participate in any presidential debate, it was Osibanjo who represented him in all the debates, this was a glaring red flag to Nigerians that Buhari has nothing to offer yet they ignored it and voted him. Today look at where we are. Desiel of about N200 is over N700. Inflation has risen to the high heavens, and all we can think of is voting another disaster next year....Chukwu hapụ ihe ọjọọ.

I don't know why you bring this into the discuss sha

And don't worry about IPOB, they wouldn't do such, in fact Atiku would secretly make a pact with them and promise to release Kanu if they stand behind him, so that alone would calm them down.

We would see to the above. It happen before in 2019

SeunTheOwner:

This is not totally true. People votes for who their local politicians presented to them. 1999 Obasanjo was presented as Baba Sorajo in the North and was voted massively. In 2011, I don't know how PDP managed to convince Nigeria to give GEJ 22m votes despite being a southern christian

We're saying the same thing...Nigerians vote based on sentiments or who they've been instructed to vote either by a religious leaders or a respected politician.

If you can remember the circumstances surrounding the 1999 election you'll understand why the north massively stood behind Obsanjo.

The north had been in power since after Ironsi's brutal murder in 1966 (that's 33 years to 1999) and Gen Abdusalam was very obvious of this fact that's why Obsanjo was specially handpicked by the cabals headed by Gen Babangida to rule cos he was in the military.

The agreement was that after his 8 years he'll hand over to Gen Babangida, if he doesn't they'll use the military to overthrow him. Obsanjo being a military strategist knew this plan and retired all military officers from Lt Col upwards weeks after assuming office. Then ditched Gen Babangida and handed over to Yar'adua. If you can remember shortly after Obsanjo handpicked Yar'adua as his successor, there were some exchanging of words on the media between him and Gen Babangida. That was because of their agreement.

My point is the reason why the north rallied round him (Obsanjo) was because they where told by their religious leaders to do so. And they felt voting him would ensure that power remains in the north after 8 years.

SeunTheOwner:
I don't know why you bring this into the discuss sha

I have to bring it into this discussion because that's the basic reason why people are campaigning against APC. In 2015 I listed to tinubu's campaign in Anambra, Ngige was still a senator under APC then, he clearly told us that Buhari would solve all the problems Jonathan created for we Nigerians. He was so confident in Buhari's success that Anambra state had the highest APC South East vote in 2015. After Buhari came into power I knew things we're right when it took him over 3 months to name his cabinet. Today look at where we are.

SeunTheOwner:
would see to the above. It happen before in 2019

It would happen. I'm hearing Atiku wants to pick Wike as his running mate. If he does that, then he'll have to look for a way to pacify the South East by ensuring block vote from SS and SE and to achieve this, he must promise Kanu's release immediately he assumes office.

Ngorbungor:


Oga please how do you identify an OSU ?

Don't waste your time on him, he's clearly an afonja

Reality3080:
do u realize a thread graced front page this year as regards a family saying no to a marriage cos of d osu whatever n mind u d village was named n the state n igbos commented

Guy u can believe whatever u want but u are guilty of what u accuse others of

Ogbeni, address the point he raised.

Don't change the topic.

CrazyMan:

Osu is an abolished practice. I can confidently tell you that no state in the whole south east practices it again.

Any story you read about Osu would be decades ago, anyone who tells you that such thing is still active today is only saying so out of hatred for the south east. I've been living here for years and I can tell you that I haven't met one Osu person in my entire life.

Stop replying the OSU thing.

That's not the topic.

Stick on the topic.

The south east is powerful.

Very powerful.

We will show how powerful we are when we come out en masse to vote for Peter Obi.

bluefilm:
The south east is powerful.

Very powerful.

We will show how powerful we are when we come out en masse to vote for Peter Obi.

Yes o Peter Obi is winning next election despite the odds not being in his favour.

CrazyMan:
Over the years, I've heard so many non-South Easterners claim that the south east is the weakest link in the political structure of Nigeria. Meaning they're politically irrelevant.

Recently, the son of the sitting Governor of Kaduna state El Rufai made a mockery comment about the South East saying the number of votes in a single local government in Kano state is larger than the entire south east. What this implies is that even if every man, woman, boy and girl in the entire south east vote a particular candidate, the votes from Kano state alone would easily cancel it...this is a very myopic reasoning if you ask me.

I would want to clarify that notion of most northerners who feel the SE has no voting power.

The South East remains the only geopolitical zone in Nigeria which has a considerable number of her indigenes across the 36 States.

Those of you in Lagos can confirm that during festive seasons when Igbo traders travel to the South East, large busy markets like balogun on the island and other markets in Lagos are usually empty. There's free flow of traffic during that period that alone should tell you something.

The total number of South Easterners residing in the entire Lagos alone are over 3 million, minus other states in the south west which when you add you'll come up with a similar figure. Even during elections in Lagos, the agberos target areas like Okota and other areas, which are known to have a very high Igbo population and disrupt elections there. Why because they're aware that our numbers can politically destabilize whatever plans they have. If we're as politically irrelevant as they say, why should they be so concerned about us?

The Kano El Rufai was boasting about has hundreds of thousands of Igbos, when you add Abuja and other northern states, you'll be counting them in millions. And in South South states like Delta, Rivers and Bayelsa, about 30% of their entire population are made up South Easterners (anyone who has lived in these states wouldn't deny this)

If you add the total number of South Easterners scattered across Nigeria to the number of the ones living in the south east it's enough to politically destabilize any opponent they choose to vote against.

No tribe in Nigeria has such political advantage. Cos to even see a yourba man here in the east is very scare. There are hausas who do menial jobs but there number cannot creat any political threat for any South Eastern politician.

If you tell me the the Igbos aren't as crazy as the northerners when it comes to elections I won't argue with you. In 2019 I know how I had to drag my flat neighbors to come out and vote. Most saw it as a public holiday to sit at home and enjoy themselves.

If you tell me that our politicians in the South East are selfish and greedy, I wouldn't argue with you, cos it's an open secret...even while APC and the presidency are pushing for a southern candidate, our greedy and shameless South Eastern politicians are stepping down for northerners.

But if you tell me that we're politically irrelevant, I wouldn't agree cos we have all it takes to rally behind any candidate of our choice. We're just too greedy and selfish to realise it. That's why the north has the upper hand cos while we Southerners fight amongst each other, they unite themselves, infiltrate our camp and use the greedy ones among us to further disunite us. This is why the south will continue to be behind the North.

Note: I'm not campaigning for any presidential candidate, I'm only addressing the popular belief that we South Easterners are politically irrelevant in the Nigerian political system.

If the East speak Hausa or Yoruba, by now they would have become president.
Politics is a number.
From North to West. That is the number they are playing.
Nothing is ever wrong with the East, rather something is not right with one Nigeria.

If Obi is Tinubu, rarely anything will make Obi not become a president.

Because SE has no unity amongst themselves. They have not proven to be relevant to themselves. Always agitated without cause.

They lack calm and political maturity.
The reason the are seem like the Ijaw and Itsekiri ruffians in the SS.

CrazyMan:
Over the years, I've heard so many non-South Easterners claim that the south east is the weakest link in the political structure of Nigeria. Meaning they're politically irrelevant.

Recently, the son of the sitting Governor of Kaduna state El Rufai made a mockery comment about the South East saying the number of votes in a single local government in Kano state is larger than the entire south east. What this implies is that even if every man, woman, boy and girl in the entire south east vote a particular candidate, the votes from Kano state alone would easily cancel it...this is a very myopic reasoning if you ask me.

I would want to clarify that notion of most northerners who feel the SE has no voting power.

The South East remains the only geopolitical zone in Nigeria which has a considerable number of her indigenes across the 36 States.

Those of you in Lagos can confirm that during festive seasons when Igbo traders travel to the South East, large busy markets like balogun on the island and other markets in Lagos are usually empty. There's free flow of traffic during that period that alone should tell you something.

The total number of South Easterners residing in the entire Lagos alone are over 3 million, minus other states in the south west which when you add you'll come up with a similar figure. Even during elections in Lagos, the agberos target areas like Okota and other areas, which are known to have a very high Igbo population and disrupt elections there. Why because they're aware that our numbers can politically destabilize whatever plans they have. If we're as politically irrelevant as they say, why should they be so concerned about us?

The Kano El Rufai was boasting about has hundreds of thousands of Igbos, when you add Abuja and other northern states, you'll be counting them in millions. And in South South states like Delta, Rivers and Bayelsa, about 30% of their entire population are made up South Easterners (anyone who has lived in these states wouldn't deny this)

If you add the total number of South Easterners scattered across Nigeria to the number of the ones living in the south east it's enough to politically destabilize any opponent they choose to vote against.

No tribe in Nigeria has such political advantage. Cos to even see a yourba man here in the east is very scare. There are hausas who do menial jobs but there number cannot creat any political threat for any South Eastern politician.

If you tell me the the Igbos aren't as crazy as the northerners when it comes to elections I won't argue with you. In 2019 I know how I had to drag my flat neighbors to come out and vote. Most saw it as a public holiday to sit at home and enjoy themselves.

If you tell me that our politicians in the South East are selfish and greedy, I wouldn't argue with you, cos it's an open secret...even while APC and the presidency are pushing for a southern candidate, our greedy and shameless South Eastern politicians are stepping down for northerners.

But if you tell me that we're politically irrelevant, I wouldn't agree cos we have all it takes to rally behind any candidate of our choice. We're just too greedy and selfish to realise it. That's why the north has the upper hand cos while we Southerners fight amongst each other, they unite themselves, infiltrate our camp and use the greedy ones among us to further disunite us. This is why the south will continue to be behind the North.

Note: I'm not campaigning for any presidential candidate, I'm only addressing the popular belief that we South Easterners are politically irrelevant in the Nigerian political system.

The answer is simple!
The regions with the major voting blocs that igbos have abused always will NEVER trust a President whose ppl are shouting Biafla Biafla, Burn the zoo bla bla.
We all remember the taunts by igbo idiots in the north after they killed the Sardauna ( how dumbs)....many igbos were roasted and sent packing to their SE.

After 2023 they will never overlook south East, they don't show interest in General election because the don't have good and prosper representation in politics, the politicians from East are all cabal slaves , no Peter Obi has waken the Spirit of Alaigbo , do you know how many million dollars the abandoned when they close Alaba international Market

THE IGBOS ARE TEMPORAL
THEY HATE THE PAST
AND ARE TOO HASTY FOR FUTURE.

tiger28:
The answer is simple!
The regions with the major voting blocs that igbos have abused always will NEVER trust a President whose ppl are shouting Biafla Biafla, Burn the zoo bla bla.
We all remember the taunts by igbo idiots in the north after they killed the Sardauna ( how dumbs)....many igbos were roasted and sent packing to their SE.

Your posts reeks of hatred towards the South East.

99% of those involved in the death of the Sardauna are all dead. The major curlpit Nzeogwu was killed in the crisis, the ensuring battle started by Ojukwu ended in a disastrous loos for the Igbos, Ojukwu is dead. So what's your point in bringing up this issue.

SE is relevant. All you need is effective collaboration with other zone and show some form of stability.

While I condemn the fact that the south did not micro-zone the ticket the SE because of their collective greed. I was not please by the actions of most SE Presidential aspirant in the mainstream Political parties.

Dave Umahi (APC) and Peter Obi (PDP) were people I was looking forward to at the beginning of the contest. Others should have stepped down and project one SE person per political party. Unfortunately, the stories that came out few days to the primary for each of this candidate was very disappointing and left one with the question, is the SE really serious to be involved on national politics?

Grandkay21:
After 2023 they will never overlook south East, they don't show interest in General election because the don't have good and prosper representation in politics, the politicians from East are all cabal slaves , no Peter Obi has waken the Spirit of Alaigbo , do you know how many million dollars the abandoned when they close Alaba international Market

I strongly agree with you my brother.

Most non-Igbos feel that we Igbos are supporting Peter Obi because he is Igbo, truth is they don't know the Igbos. If you swap Peter Obi with Rochas Okorocha or Orji Uzo Kalu which are cabal slaves like you rightfully pointed out, you would see the outcome.

According to INEC statistics, the south east had about 10million Registered voters in 2019, (the smallest in all the zones) I put it to you that by next year, that number would overtake that of the SS, NE which was about 11million and if possible the SW which was about 16million in 2019, considering the thousands that are trooping to get registered in the 5 SE states.

Peter Obi may or may not win next year's election, but he'll send a strong message across Nigeria that no SE politician has been able to send since 1999 that we have a voice. And the SE would no longer be seen a politically irrelevant zone.

osinbanjoisaliar:
No part of Naija dey irrelevant. Na only mumu and swegbe pesins dey repeat that nonsense. The only part of Naija wen dey irrelevant politically na graveyard. Tinubu wen no go southeast go chop dust on the 8th.

Las las
Nah your papa chop dust

Michael004:
So is only igbos that travel to village during festive periods, yorubas don't travel abi, others don't travel abi.

Abeg getat.

Most people even stay in their houses during holidays .
Those clowns are delusional