Dtruthspeaker:


We have all experienced the pain of cheating and disappointment. And where is that pain located?

Answer: In our chest area. We all hold our chest when we have those types of pain. And Glory be to God, the brain, the headquarters of the nervous system, is not in the chest.

So if you feel pain in your finger, that means the pain is processed in the finger right?

Why do you do this? Why?

kimco:

I have read your post. And so I am here to tell you that the word "Normal" is from the word "norm" aka the the way thing have been done consistently in an environment. What is abnormal today was probably not normal yesterday.
In my analogy, It is NORMAL ( even in the old times) for every man to want to have his chance with a lot of women. Not only is it normal but since time immemorial it has been natural. So I don't know what you think you are referring to when you say Normal. What is normal is subjective however in every society. I would advise you to not project your idea of normal of normal to everyone.
With that, can you come again?

I think you're subjecting NORM to decadence of morals in the human society which will never go down well with NORMAL humans!

That's why i asked you:
Will you find it normal if your daughter (adult), wife or mother freely gives herself to every man that comes her way?

Your response/reaction to this question will stand as proof if such an act is NORMAL or ABNORMAL! Matthew 7:12

May you have PEACE!

MaxInDHouse:


I think you're subjecting NORM to decadence of morals in the human society which will never go down well with NORMAL humans!

That's why i asked you:
Will you find it normal if your daughter (adult), wife or mother freely gives herself to every man that comes her way?

Your response/reaction to this question will stand as proof if such an act is NORMAL or ABNORMAL! Matthew 7:12

May you have PEACE!

My answer is prostitution. Is prostitution normal to you? Answer that and let's move from there.

kimco:


So if you feel pain in your finger, that means the pain is processed in the finger right?

Why do you do this? Why?

The pain in our finger, stays on our finger and we know how the pain landed there and why the pain is there. And in pain, we hold the finger.

From the beginning of the pain in the finger to the end, we know and we see it is connected to the body that they call nervous system.

But how come the pain of disappointment and cheating and failure lands on our chest, which does not even have any physical contact with the cause of disappointment/cheating/failure unlike the finger?

kimco:


I am not agreeing the guy I am happy with the way he has reaponded. Truth be told I wish you would respond the same way that he does sometimes...not vague and wishy like you mostly do. U fortunately he too has entired into the realm of vagueness at this point. But I like how he begun. You on the other hand..wellll

I am not vague and you I am not being vague. You know that whilst I am speaking from my corner, I am not doing so as a person selling a product trying to ensure that you must buy my product, as he is.

I speak in the manner that you are capable of thinking, then think properly and see that which stands and that which falls.

And it is only Truth that stands. All Lies, Fall!

kimco:


I hate answers like these. They don't progress anything. We all see the sky above and the ground below yet there are a 1001 religious bodies in the world. And even in christianity so many denominations. So what are youseeing that we too should be seeing. Help us see.

That is the problem with liars. They come to say the ground is above and the sky is below, now, I have stupid and unnecessary problems.

And then people like you come here, claiming not to know which is which, even when it can be seen that the ground is under and the sky up?

What a difficulty!

Seeing starts only when you have settled for yourself, in Truth, (even if you did not like the Truth) whether the sky is above or not.

kimco:

My answer is prostitution. Is prostitution normal to you? Answer that and let's move from there.

Can you find delight in your daughter (adult), wife or mother being a PROSTITUTE?
Your response as in reaction to this question will tell if it's NORMAL or ABNORMAL!

kimco:
The let me ask those that have time.

Go for it!

kimco:
According to science, in the human body, the nervous system is responsible for feeling pain.

The bible claims that sinners will suffer forever in the burning lake of fire. And that the body will rot while the soul faces judgement.

Now my questions are simple:

1. Does the soul have a nervous system which is an attribute of the physical being?

Nervous system has to do with fibres connecting different parts of the body and not the soul. So the soul doesnt have a nervous system, which, in itself, is an attribute of the physical body

kimco:
2. If not, how are we to register the pain of hell forever.

Its the combustion in the Lake of Fire, just like the incinerator refuse dump, Gehenna in ancient Jerusalem smoulders, that goes on forever. Might interest you to know that death, hell and souls dont continue burning after already being done combusted. No souls registers pain forever, no soul registers pain, after combustion is done.

Dtruthspeaker:
You still felt pain even when NO THING touched any part of your Nervous System (NS) eg the pain of cheating and betrayal and false accusation and disappointment etc

None of this touched the NS.

That surely tells you, you feel and can feel independent of your flesh.

Pain can be felt physically (i.e. via the NS) and as well can be felt mentally (i.e. without NS necessarily being involved)

kimco:
This post is at least trying.

But unfortunately I am talking about physical pain. And who told you emotional pain does not involve the nervous system? You still need the brain to process the pain. You tried and I respect that. But come again.

Luke 16:19-24
'19“Now there was a certain rich man who was habitually dressed in expensive purple and fine linen, and celebrated and lived joyously in splendor every day.
20And a poor man named Lazarus, was laid at his gate, covered with sores.
21He [eagerly] longed to eat the crumbs which fell from the rich man’s table. Besides, even the dogs were coming and licking his sores.
22Now it happened that the poor man died and his spirit was carried away by the angels to Abraham’s bosom (paradise); and the rich man also died and was buried.
23In Hades (the realm of the dead), being in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away and Lazarus in his bosom (paradise).
24And he cried out, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus so that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in severe agony in this flame.’ '

You dont need the brain to process the pain
It's not unusual to be aware of pain or have knowledge of severe torment, intense wretchedness, worrisome suffering, agonising discomfort, debilitating affliction et cetera. The rich man, in the great beyond, there at Luke 16:24, obviously without a brain, without any nervous system et cetera, is traumatised enough to be aware of being under some serious stress or tension

Brings home that Vanna Bonta RIP observation, where it contrasts, the pain of the body with the pain of the soul. Her remark is:
'The body knows no pain, not like the soul.
At least a nerve has limits, a body part, a name.
But the soul... the soul... There is no bandage ...'

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:

Pain can be felt physically and as well can be felt mentally ..

And where is the part of the body that is called "mental"?

Is there such a part?

No! All the parts of the body have names meanwhile the words "mental" and "emotional' have no specific place.

But still describe something we all experience but different from a razor blade cutting the finger.

Dtruthspeaker:
And where is the part of the body that is called "mental"?

It is a part that's abstract, period.

Dtruthspeaker:
Is there such a part?

Yes there exist such parts

Dtruthspeaker:
No! All the parts of the body have names meanwhile the words "mental" and "emotional' have no specific place.

The words 'mental' and 'emotional' have places in the faculties of the soul and the faculties of the spirit

Dtruthspeaker:
But still describe something we all experience but different from a razor blade cutting the finger.

There's physical pain from a razor blade cutting the finger. There's sorrow from being jilted, betrayed, cheated upon, abused et cetera that causes mental pain, mental anguish et cetera

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
It is a part that's abstract, period.

And there you prove spirit because
Abstract, "emotional, mental are words used to describe things unseen, which is what I am proving against him.

And your comments also establish my case against him which is people still feel beyond their physical skin.

NNTR:
God is not just only a Spirit, that is not made at all, as He is the Maker, but God is incorporeal, meaning, God has no physical body, whereas man, taking into consideration the fact that man is tripartite, is made up with, a soul, spirit and body, as created by the Maker, God.

Unlike the body, that is physical, the soul and spirit, are not physical. The soul and spirit constitute an immaterial part of a whole person or being, whether human or animal.

Now dwelling further on man, the soul, is the animate life, and actually, is that humanity side of man, the seat, where our emotions, senses, desires, affections, appetites, character etc all emanates out from.

In fact, the word, soul, even is used to refer to the whole person, whether alive on earth (i.e. land of the living) and/or after dead and transited in the afterlife (i.e. land of dead)

Wrapping up, the soul is the essence of what a human being is. The soul,is you, it is who you are. No surprises then, that, it is the soul that faces judgment, not the spirit and neither, not the body that stands before God, to give account for all the thoughts, deeds, words and actions did while the soul and spirit were housed in the body.

Focusing on the spirit, the spirit actually and appropriately, is ruach, otherwise known as, the breath of God, and in reality, also known as, life force. Now, at this juncture, it is necessary, to note that, though humans and animals have spirit, (i.e. ruach, otherwise known as, the breath of God, and in reality, also known as, life force) they however are not spirits nor Spirit (i.e. God)

The spirit (i.e. ruach, otherwise known as, the breath of God, and in reality, also known as, life force) in relation to humans, is the element in humanity that gives us the ability to have, not just only a connection with God, but also used to form an intimate relationship with God through it. Essentially, meaning that, part of what the spirit is used for, is to connect to God with, who Himself is Spirit, the Life-force, and giver of ruach, otherwise known as, the wind or breath of God

When the soul is the seat, where our emotions, senses, desires, affections, appetites, character etc all emanates out from, Proverbs 20:27, lets us know that, the spirit of man (i.e. talking of conscience here, and where as it happens, conscience, is one of the faculties of the spirit), is the lamp of the LORD, searching and examining all the innermost parts of his being, while 1 Corinthians 2:11, complementing, says, no one can know a person’s thoughts except that person’s own spirit, and no one can know God’s thoughts except God’s own Spirit. You see, the spirit, doubles up also as a witness. It knows everything about the person, and this because of the 'record' it logs

While the soul has four faculties, which namely are: Consciousness, Intellect, Will and Emotions, now, as for the spirit, aside Conscience, the other faculties of the spirit, are Fellowship and Discernment or Intuition. It is when man’s spirit successfully connects to or connects with the Spirit, that it is becomes capable of knowing things of the Spirit (i.e. God). While the soul, is the humanity side of man, the seat, where our emotions, senses, desires, affections, appetites, character etc all emanates out from, even giving us a purpose and/or sense of life, the spirit, on the other hand, is the temple throne seat of God in man, it not only is, the nourisher of soul, but it also gives us a power of life, from tuning into the God frequency channel or station and receiving transmitted spiritual signals thereof. Somebody, shout, Alleluia.

Physical pain, can with medicine, be made less severe, but mental pain (e.g. sorrow, grief, torment, despair, anguish, depression, dementia etc) is less accessible to treatment. Why is this? It's because of being connected to who we are - our personality, our character, our soul. Try and connect the dots, in the the parable of Lazarus and the dead rich man

Yes, the soul and the spirit are connected, yet we know, courtesy of Hebrews 4:12, that, they are able to be separated and are treated separately

In summary, the spirit, is the spark of light, the living or life force in the body, while the soul is kind of interface between spirit and body

The body dies (i.e. physically), it is because the spirit (i.e. life or living force) has expired, so the spirit stops existing in the body, from leaving the body and returning back to God, while the soul leaves the body, and moves on to a waiting area, pending the Judgment Day and verdict of where the last destination of the soul, will be. The body, after the exit of the spirit, experiences physical death, disintegrates, to end up, returning back, to being dust.

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Dtruthspeaker:
And there you prove spirit because
Abstract, "emotional, mental are words used to describe things unseen, which is what I am proving against him.

And your comments also establish my case against him which is people still feel beyond their physical skin.

I am throwing light about, I am throwing beams of light to shine on the subject matter. The lights will either end up as glows that illuminates or as glares that obscures. Thats all I'll say to this your remark here

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
I am throwing light about, I am throwing beams of light to shine on the subject matter. The lights will either end up as glows that illuminates or as glares that obscures. Thats all I'll say to this your remark here...

I am okay with the knowledge that the physical has never ever been able to capture the spiritual even after all their progresses in the physical area.

Dtruthspeaker:
I am okay with the knowledge that the physical has never ever been able to capture the
spiritual even after all their progresses in the physical area.

The physical's limitation is due to what dimension is it operating on

Last, last, when the ante is up, when the physical appeals and taps in to any of the 10 more higher dimensions, then you'll have the physical, begin to defy natural laws, capture the essence of the spiritual et cetera

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:
Nervous system has to do with fibres connecting different parts of the body and not the soul. So the soul doesnt have a nervous system, which, in itself, is an attribute of the physical body

Its the combustion in the Lake of Fire, just like the incinerator refuse dump, Gehenna in ancient Jerusalem smoulders, that goes on forever. Might interest you to know that death, hell and souls dont continue burning after already being done combusted. No souls registers pain forever, no soul registers pain, after combustion is done.

Pain can be felt physically (i.e. via the NS) and as well can be felt mentally (i.e. without NS necessarily being involved)

Luke 16:19-24
'19“Now there was a certain rich man who was habitually dressed in expensive purple and fine linen, and celebrated and lived joyously in splendor every day.
20And a poor man named Lazarus, was laid at his gate, covered with sores.
21He [eagerly] longed to eat the crumbs which fell from the rich man’s table. Besides, even the dogs were coming and licking his sores.
22Now it happened that the poor man died and his spirit was carried away by the angels to Abraham’s bosom (paradise); and the rich man also died and was buried.
23In Hades (the realm of the dead), being in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away and Lazarus in his bosom (paradise).
24And he cried out, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus so that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in severe agony in this flame.’ '

You dont need the brain to process the pain
It's not unusual to be aware of pain or have knowledge of severe torment, intense wretchedness, worrisome suffering, agonising discomfort, debilitating affliction et cetera. The rich man, in the great beyond, there at Luke 16:24, obviously without a brain, without any nervous system et cetera, is traumatised enough to be aware of being under some serious stress or tension

Brings home that Vanna Bonta RIP observation, where it contrasts, the pain of the body with the pain of the soul. Her remark is:
'The body knows no pain, not like the soul.
At least a nerve has limits, a body part, a name.
But the soul... the soul... There is no bandage ...'

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

My brother, the nervous system involves the brain. If the pain is processed in the brain, the nervous system is involved. Know this and know peace. Revise your post and come back. I would like to engage you more.

MaxInDHouse:

Can you find delight in your daughter (adult), wife or mother being a PROSTITUTE?
Your response as in reaction to this question will tell if it's NORMAL or ABNORMAL!

I realised you dodged the initial question. Let's back up, you are digressing seriously.

What gladdens people's heart, is it universal?

Please dont use outliers and dont digress. Stay on topic.

To answer your question I will not be happy. But prostitution is normal in our society.

Dtruthspeaker:


That is the problem with liars. They come to say the ground is above and the sky is below, now, I have stupid and unnecessary problems.

And then people like you come here, claiming not to know which is which, even when it can be seen that the ground is under and the sky up?

What a difficulty!

Seeing starts only when you have settled for yourself, in Truth, (even if you did not like the Truth) whether the sky is above or not.

Oh lord....who can interpret this post for me? Does it have anything to do with my conversation? Im genuinely lost (no surprise here)

Dtruthspeaker:


I am not vague and you I am not being vague. You know that whilst I am speaking from my corner, I am not doing so as a person selling a product trying to ensure that you must buy my product, as he is.

I speak in the manner that you are capable of thinking, then think properly and see that which stands and that which falls.

And it is only Truth that stands. All Lies, Fall!

Anyone help?

Dtruthspeaker:


The pain in our finger, stays on our finger and we know how the pain landed there and why the pain is there. And in pain, we hold the finger.

From the beginning of the pain in the finger to the end, we know and we see it is connected to the body that they call nervous system.

But how come the pain of disappointment and cheating and failure lands on our chest, which does not even have any physical contact with the cause of disappointment/cheating/failure unlike the finger?

I really have nothing to say. Can you atleast educate your self on this issue first by googling? Every pain is processed in the brain my brother, physical and emotional. That is why anesthesia works...the brain is not processing any pain signal because there is no pain signal. Your chest (rib cage) houses your lungs and heart. It does not process pain. Atleast search on these things before you reply to me Im begging you.

kimco:

I realised you dodged the initial question. Let's back up, you are digressing seriously.
What gladdens people's heart, is it universal?
Please dont use outliers and dont digress. Stay on topic.
To answer your question I will not be happy. But prostitution is normal in our society.

Well if you don't wish either your daughter, wife or mother to be a prostitute then it's NOT NORMAL some are going through emotional torture seeing their daughter, wife, sister or mother being a commercial sex worker. When Satan told Eve that mankind will be better of if they turn their backs on God {Gene 3:5} Jesus later enlightened us that Satan is a LIAR {John 8:44} of course mankind doesn't know what is good or bad {Jere 10:23} otherwise you won't be here arguing about what is not normal trying to justify it simply because it's not taken as crime in our society.
Well stealing, murder, rape, fraud is NOT NORMAL not because the society frown at the acts but because it a cause for agony in the life of victims even though the culprits feel they're enjoying it.
Likewise prostitution is NOT NORMAL if you won't feel happy seeing your own daughter, wife, sister or mother being a prostitute!

Thanks for sharing your time with me Sir!

NNTR:
Nervous system has to do with fibres connecting different parts of the body and not the soul. So the soul doesnt have a nervous system, which, in itself, is an attribute of the physical body

Pain can be felt physically (i.e. via the NS) and as well can be felt mentally (i.e. without NS necessarily being involved)

Luke 16:19-24
'19“Now there was a certain rich man who was habitually dressed in expensive purple and fine linen, and celebrated and lived joyously in splendor every day.
20And a poor man named Lazarus, was laid at his gate, covered with sores.
21He [eagerly] longed to eat the crumbs which fell from the rich man’s table. Besides, even the dogs were coming and licking his sores.
22Now it happened that the poor man died and his spirit was carried away by the angels to Abraham’s bosom (paradise); and the rich man also died and was buried.
23In Hades (the realm of the dead), being in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away and Lazarus in his bosom (paradise).
24And he cried out, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus so that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in severe agony in this flame.’ '

The rich man, in the great beyond, there at Luke 16:24, obviously without a brain, without any nervous system et cetera, is traumatised enough to be aware of being under some serious stress or tension

Brings home that Vanna Bonta RIP observation, where it contrasts, the pain of the body with the pain of the soul. Her remark is:
'The body knows no pain, not like the soul.
At least a nerve has limits, a body part, a name.
But the soul... the soul... There is no bandage ...'

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

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kimco:
My brother, the nervous system involves the brain.

My amiable brother, you're 159% correct, just as I had earlier advanced that the nervous system involves the brain albeit this is with reference to having a body alive in the land of the living

kimco:
If the pain is processed in the brain, the nervous system is involved. Know this and know peace. Revise your post and come back.

There's no reason to revise anything, as we have two contexts there on the table.

The mechanism used, to give awareness of pain, in the land of the living, is different from the mechanism, used to give awareness of pain or sense it, in the realm of the dead

kimco:
I would like to engage you more.

Sounds like a change of baton or WWE tag team wrestling thing about going down. Be my guest and feel free to step into the ring

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

kimco:

Every pain is processed in the brain my brother, physical and emotional.

That is what someone chooses to say! In the beginning of all this says, we were told we could see these things ourselves.

And we have seen them and how they operate which is why till today you and your says can not explain how the pain of disappointment and cheating and failure lands on our chest, which does not even have any physical or bodily contact with the cause of disappointment/cheating/failure.

kimco:

Your chest (rib cage) houses your lungs and heart. It does not process pain. Atleast search on these things before you reply to me Im begging you.

Heartburn and pneumonia has shown us chest, heart and lung pain, and they have physical contact with the body but this does not happen in the pain of disappointment and cheating and failure lands on our chest, which does not even have any physical contact with the cause of disappointment/cheating/failure.

And you have still not addressed this issue.

All the things you raised are things indisputably physically connected to the body and the place of pain.

kimco:


Oh lord....who can interpret this post for me? Does it have anything to do with my conversation? Im genuinely lost (no surprise here)

And this the beginning of your problems. You do not know how far lost you are and how easily misled and deceivable you are.

kimco:
According to science, in the human body, the nervous system is responsible for feeling pain.

The bible claims that sinners will suffer forever in the burning lake of fire. And that the body will rot while the soul faces judgement.

Now my questions are simple:

1. Does the soul have a nervous system which is an attribute of the physical being?

2. If not, how are we to register the pain of hell forever.

You just have to accept the Bible as it is. If the Bible says that people will be tormented in hell, then one way or the other it will happen.

Dtruthspeaker:


And this the beginning of your problems. You do not know how far lost you are and how easily misled and deceivable you are.

Says the one that says emotional pain is processed in the chest area. Did you say you were a lawyer? If you cannot be bothered to make an argument then good day sir.

Dtruthspeaker:


That is what someone chooses to say! In the beginning of all this says, we were told we could see these things ourselves.

And we have seen them and how they operate which is why till today you and your says can not explain how the pain of disappointment and cheating and failure lands on our chest, which does not even have any physical or bodily contact with the cause of disappointment/cheating/failure.



Heartburn and pneumonia has shown us chest, heart and lung pain, and they have physical contact with the body but this does not happen in the pain of disappointment and cheating and failure lands on our chest, which does not even have any physical contact with the cause of disappointment/cheating/failure.

And you have still not addressed this issue.

All the things you raised are things indisputably physically connected to the body and the place of pain.

MA GUUUUY! EVERY SINGLE PAIN YOU CAN EVER FEEL IS PROCESSED IN THE BRAIN. STOP THIS THING YOU ARE GOING ON ABOUT, IT IS NOT MAKING YOU LOOK GOOD AT ALLLLL. READ A BOOK, MAYBE GOOGLE THIS. SERIOUSLY, HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW THIS?

NNTR:

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My amiable brother, you're 159% correct, just as I had earlier advanced that the nervous system involves the brain albeit this is with reference to having a body alive in the land of the living

There's no reason to revise anything, as we have two contexts there on the table.

The mechanism used, to give awareness of pain, in the land of the living, is different from the mechanism, used to give awareness of pain or sense it, in the realm of the dead

Sounds like a change of baton or WWE tag team wrestling thing about going down. Be my guest and feel free to step into the ring

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

So how will the soul feel pain then. That is my question? Someone says if the bible says so then it shall happen. Full stop. Do you agree?

MaxInDHouse:


Well if you don't wish either your daughter, wife or mother to be a prostitute then it's NOT NORMAL some are going through emotional torture seeing their daughter, wife, sister or mother being a commercial sex worker. When Satan told Eve that mankind will be better of if they turn their backs on God {Gene 3:5} Jesus later enlightened us that Satan is a LIAR {John 8:44} of course mankind doesn't know what is good or bad {Jere 10:23} otherwise you won't be here arguing about what is not normal trying to justify it simply because it's not taken as crime in our society.
Well stealing, murder, rape, fraud is NOT NORMAL not because the society frown at the acts but because it a cause for agony in the life of victims even though the culprits feel they're enjoying it.
Likewise prostitution is NOT NORMAL if you won't feel happy seeing your own daughter, wife, sister or mother being a prostitute!

Thanks for sharing your time with me Sir!

Normal doesnt mean right or wrong. Normal means consistent and "acceptable"you behavior. I put acceptable in quotes because again it doesn't mean right thing but rather part of our daily lives so much so that no body bats an eye when these things happen.

In Ghana a taxi driver returned a huge amount to a certain passenger and it was news. He was hailed and everyone donated to him. What can we learn from this

1. It is normal to expect the taxi driver to keep the money

2. It was not normal to have him return the money

3. Corruption is the order of the day, the new normal.

Thank you also for engaging me.

kimco:

Normal doesnt mean right or wrong. Normal means consistent and "acceptable"you behavior. I put acceptable in quotes because again it doesn't mean right thing but rather part of our daily lives so much so that nobody bats an eye when these things happen.
In Ghana a taxi driver returned a huge amount to a certain passenger and it was news. He was hailed and everyone donated to him. What can we learn from this
1. It is normal to expect the taxi driver to keep the money
2. It was not normal to have him return the money
3. Corruption is the order of the day, the new normal.
Thank you also for engaging me.

kimco:

I realised you dodged the initial question. Let's back up, you are digressing seriously.
What gladdens people's heart, is it universal?
Please dont use outliers and dont digress. Stay on topic.
To answer your question I will not be happy. But prostitution is normal in our society.

Please compare the two highlighted and tell me if you're no part of the NOBODY that bats an eye when your close relative becomes a prostitute then i will agree that it's normal!

NNTR:
Physical pain, can with medicine, be made less severe, but mental pain (e.g. sorrow, grief, torment, despair, anguish, depression, dementia etc) is less accessible to treatment. Why is this? It's because of being connected to who we are - our personality, our character, our soul. Try and connect the dots, in the the parable of Lazarus and the dead rich man

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kimco:
So how will the soul feel pain then.

It depends on the soul, if the soul will feel pain then or not feel pain, however, it'll be safe to say that, the soul will feel pain, a similar way, one feels pain in dreams. The way you know that you're having a piss in a dream, is the same way the soul, you essentially, can be aware of feeling or having pain

kimco:
That is my question?

Its a good enquiry
Are you familiar with the saying:
'The soul has been given it's own ears, to hear things, mind does not understand'

Now watch this, what's the correlation between emotional pain and fibromyalgia?

kimco:
Someone says if the bible says so then it shall happen. Full stop. Do you agree?

Thats like, whoever the person is that said that, is trying to use a Get Out of Jail Free card.

The bible did say so, that the rich man was tormented though. Or didnt it say so?

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:

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It depends on the soul, if the soul will feel pain then or not feel pain, however, it'll be safe to say that, the soul will feel pain, a similar way, one feels pain in dreams. The way you know that you're having a piss in a dream, is the same way the soul, you essentially, can be aware of feeling or having pain

How do you assume one feels pain in a dream? Where do you think this dream pain is processed and the urine analogy too. Where do you think these impulses are processed?

NNTR:

Its a good enquiry
Are you familiar with the saying:
'The soul has been given it's own ears, to hear things, mind does not understand'

Im sure this is not a poetry class. Where is the science behind this? This statement is unecessary in this conversation.

NNTR:

Now watch this, what's the correlation between emotional pain and fibromyalgia?

Fibromyalgia is a disorder characterized by widespread musculoskeletal pain accompanied by fatigue, sleep, memory and mood issues. Researchers believe that fibromyalgia amplifies painful sensations by affecting the way your brain and spinal cord process painful and nonpainful signals.-

source: mayoclinic.org

NNTR:

Thats like, whoever the person is that said that, is trying to use a Get Out of Jail Free card.

Hmmm

NNTR:


The bible did say so, that the rich man was tormented though. Or didnt it say so?

It did, now I am asking the hard hitting question regarding those claims.

NNTR:


Physical pain, can with medicine, be made less severe, but mental pain (e.g. sorrow, grief, torment, despair, anguish, depression, dementia etc) is less accessible to treatment. Why is this? It's because of being connected to who we are - our personality, our character, our soul. Try and connect the dots, in the the parable of Lazarus and the dead rich man

You analogy is a bit flawed. Let me explain.

If you have a sore toe because you burnt it then medicine can help it become less severe. But let's say during the treatment the toe is still inteoduced to the fire...what do you think will happen? No amount of medicine can fix that...you will feel more pain. That is same with emotional pain, if you are sick of broken heart, and become clinically depressed, it is advised that along with drugs you avoid anything that may trigger the source of your depression. Then you know for sure that indeed medine works.