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Re: Range Rover Sports Club by thelegend1(m): 7:00pm On Jun 22, 2022
badbwoy77:



For me I think it’s to services every 2 months

Hian....every 2 months ke?!
Do you drive from Lagos to Ibadan as daily commute?
Re: Range Rover Sports Club by badbwoy77: 7:48pm On Jun 22, 2022
thelegend1:


Hian....every 2 months ke?!
Do you drive from Lagos to Ibadan as daily commute?

If you have not spent up to 4m on engine replacement parts don’t argue with me it was a very old man at Ajayi farm in ikeja that fixed and gave that the advice the old doesn’t need to get black before u service
Re: Range Rover Sports Club by sooperrescue(m): 9:36pm On Jun 22, 2022
badbwoy77:



For me I think it’s to services every 2 months

Hmmm, that is riskier. Besides the fuel and the oil, the other culprit is the radiator coolant. A lot of us use anti freeze which is very wrong. We don't have any freezing temperature here in the country and so we tend to copy things that are not relevant to the car. I have driven under -2 © years ago and I know the effect of the anti freeze. It prevents the radiator to freeze but here, we wake up with 25 degrees in the morning. Oil is also a coolant dispersing heat away from the engine and good oil is needed. The Euro 6 standard for fuel is not available here and so we manage what we find. The use of low octane fuel is a sure bet to destroy the engine.
Re: Range Rover Sports Club by erico2k2(m): 11:17pm On Jun 22, 2022
loba18:


Be deceiving yourself, as if the e70 is a light car.
the RRS is a 3tone car empty, hats the e70?
Re: Range Rover Sports Club by erico2k2(m): 11:19pm On Jun 22, 2022
LeJeun3:




Well like I said earlier that's the reason why you complain of these cars being expensive to maintain...!

- brake disc, how do you do you know its not warped?? Worn, resurfaced ??
- brake pads, the silly claim that they are better than new is appalling
- radiator of all things u replace with a used unit?? Why because a gummed up radiator is better than a new unit??

If you talked about modules and body parts I wouldn't have even batted an eyelid...

Imagine going to buy a
- used toothbrush
- used socks
- used underwear
- used handkerchief


I have heard of peopple buying used air filters lol

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Re: Range Rover Sports Club by erico2k2(m): 11:26pm On Jun 22, 2022
badbwoy77:


If you have not spent up to 4m on engine replacement parts don’t argue with me it was a very old man at Ajayi farm in ikeja that fixed and gave that the advice the old doesn’t need to get black before u service
you will kill your car if you do that well, depends on what you are servicing, and I hope it dnt include oil change and any other fluid change
Re: Range Rover Sports Club by erico2k2(m): 11:38pm On Jun 22, 2022
sooperrescue:


Hmmm, that is riskier. Besides the fuel and the oil, the other culprit is the radiator coolant. A lot of us use anti freeze which is very wrong. We don't have any freezing temperature here in the country and so we tend to copy things that are not relevant to the car. I have driven under -2 © years ago and I know the effect of the anti freeze. It prevents the radiator to freeze but here, we wake up with 25 degrees in the morning. Oil is also a coolant dispersing heat away from the engine and good oil is needed. The Euro 6 standard for fuel is not available here and so we manage what we find. The use of low octane fuel is a sure bet to destroy the engine.
Bro wrong assumption, I can tell you more about this stuff as I happen to be a fluid Engineer, Anti freeze works in a way that it prevent the rapid change of temperature of the fluid it is mixed with in this case WATER, On one end of the spectrum, antifreeze lowers the freezing point of water in the coolant mixture, and as such preventing it from freezing inside the radiator, the water pump and hoses. On the other hand, it raises the boiling point of the water in the coolant mix(water), giving it greater cooling capacity. SO in general it slows the process of either heating up or freezing. In the west we suffer from freezing the general name given was antifreeze. Modern day antifreeze now contains elements of antirust a minimal quantity of some sort of lub and wear proof to prevent delicate parts of rubb er and plastic components,

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Re: Range Rover Sports Club by dru23(m): 2:07am On Jun 23, 2022
sooperrescue:


Hmmm, that is riskier. Besides the fuel and the oil, the other culprit is the radiator coolant. A lot of us use anti freeze which is very wrong. We don't have any freezing temperature here in the country and so we tend to copy things that are not relevant to the car. I have driven under -2 © years ago and I know the effect of the anti freeze. It prevents the radiator to freeze but here, we wake up with 25 degrees in the morning. Oil is also a coolant dispersing heat away from the engine and good oil is needed. The Euro 6 standard for fuel is not available here and so we manage what we find. The use of low octane fuel is a sure bet to destroy the engine.

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Re: Range Rover Sports Club by thelegend1(m): 3:45am On Jun 23, 2022
badbwoy77:


If you have not spent up to 4m on engine replacement parts don’t argue with me it was a very old man at Ajayi farm in ikeja that fixed and gave that the advice the old doesn’t need to get black before u service

A very old man told you...right, that's your only justification? Okay.

I'm not even arguing with you as I know a range rover is not a daily driver vehicle for most Nigerians. Anyways kontinu with what works for you.

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Re: Range Rover Sports Club by sooperrescue(m): 3:18am On Jun 24, 2022
dru23:




Don't wake up the children. They might reason the way you do

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Re: Range Rover Sports Club by sooperrescue(m): 3:21am On Jun 24, 2022
erico2k2:

Bro wrong assumption, I can tell you more about this stuff as I happen to be a fluid Engineer, Anti freeze works in a way that it prevent the rapid change of temperature of the fluid it is mixed with in this case WATER, On one end of the spectrum, antifreeze lowers the freezing point of water in the coolant mixture, and as such preventing it from freezing inside the radiator, the water pump and hoses. On the other hand, it raises the boiling point of the water in the coolant mix(water), giving it greater cooling capacity. SO in general it slows the process of either heating up or freezing. In the west we suffer from freezing the general name given was antifreeze. Modern day antifreeze now contains elements of antirust a minimal quantity of some sort of lub and wear proof to prevent delicate parts of rubb er and plastic components,

You are very correct on this one. But from my experience using Freezetone, there is no 50/50 mix of the coolant. It is 100% usage.
Re: Range Rover Sports Club by sooperrescue(m): 3:26am On Jun 24, 2022
erico2k2:

I have heard of peopple buying used air filters lol

Someone used Adler CVT on his 06 Sport and we started arguing over the matter. I just told him that I can't repair the gear for him because my gear specialist was not around. He said you go for talk am say you nor sabi fix the gear. Another came to me that he has been using Mobil Xhp 20w50 and as he was driving, the engine stopped. In my mind, I said where you want it to go again?
Re: Range Rover Sports Club by sooperrescue(m): 3:36am On Jun 24, 2022
badbwoy77:


If you have not spent up to 4m on engine replacement parts don’t argue with me it was a very old man at Ajayi farm in ikeja that fixed and gave that the advice the old doesn’t need to get black before u service

I am close to Ajayi Farm and I am not very old and so it can't be me. If you are using the right oil, even as a daily drive, 6 months is still the mark. I used to travel to Abuja from Lagos and back and yes I can change every three months because by the time I am on my 3rd return trip from Abuja of 899kms per trip, the oil should be changed even though it is highway mileage, but I still do change the oil. That was when I was using Total and Oando. But with Addinol and Castrol, my customers return their cars for service after 7 month at times
Re: Range Rover Sports Club by erico2k2(m): 10:07am On Jun 24, 2022
sooperrescue:


You are very correct on this one. But from my experience using Freezetone, there is no 50/50 mix of the coolant. It is 100% usage.
Now you are talking about the quality of antifreeze I get.Use the wrong one you kill the cooling system.even ur thermostat might get clogged.
Re: Range Rover Sports Club by badbwoy77: 11:45am On Jun 24, 2022
Do what suits u but as for me that’s the best service ur range every 7k miles I’d u want peace of mind


sooperrescue:


I am close to Ajayi Farm and I am not very old and so it can't be me. If you are using the right oil, even as a daily drive, 6 months is still the mark. I used to travel to Abuja from Lagos and back and yes I can change every three months because by the time I am on my 3rd return trip from Abuja of 899kms per trip, the oil should be changed even though it is highway mileage, but I still do change the oil. That was when I was using Total and Oando. But with Addinol and Castrol, my customers return their cars for service after 7 month at times
Re: Range Rover Sports Club by sooperrescue(m): 8:02pm On Jun 24, 2022
erico2k2:

Now you are talking about the quality of antifreeze I get.Use the wrong one you kill the cooling system.even ur thermostat might get clogged.

I had a 2015 V6 that we overhauled. The owner was driving with coolant level low and decided to buy coolant and immediately he added green coolant to the red one inside and the engine knocked after five minutes of driving.
Re: Range Rover Sports Club by kingreign(m): 8:31pm On Jun 24, 2022
sooperrescue:


I had a 2015 V6 that we overhauled. The owner was driving with coolant level low and decided to buy coolant and immediately he added green coolant to the red one inside and the engine knocked after five minutes of driving.

I highly doubt this story.

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Re: Range Rover Sports Club by mammanbawa: 8:39pm On Jun 24, 2022
sooperrescue:


I had a 2015 V6 that we overhauled. The owner was driving with coolant level low and decided to buy coolant and immediately he added green coolant to the red one inside and the engine knocked after five minutes of driving.

Oga small small na

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Re: Range Rover Sports Club by GAZZUZZ(m): 9:04pm On Jun 24, 2022
sooperrescue:


I had a 2015 V6 that we overhauled. The owner was driving with coolant level low and decided to buy coolant and immediately he added green coolant to the red one inside and the engine knocked after five minutes of driving.

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Re: Range Rover Sports Club by buygala(m): 10:21pm On Jun 24, 2022
sooperrescue:


I had a 2015 V6 that we overhauled. The owner was driving with coolant level low and decided to buy coolant and immediately he added green coolant to the red one inside and the engine knocked after five minutes of driving.

Why was the coolant level low in the 1st place? .. Abi the overhaul you did didn't reach the vehicle's cooling system?


My take is that you "underhauled" whatever it is you were supposed to overhaul and made a client lose his engine

Thi is on you Bro.. Don't blame any innocent coolant...

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Re: Range Rover Sports Club by sooperrescue(m): 3:51am On Jun 25, 2022
Hmmm. The guy was driving with a red intermittent coolant level low on the dashboard and according to him decided to buy coolant at a petrol station in ikorodu axis and still according to him, immediately he poured the green coolant after he waited for the engine to cool down, he drove out of the station and he noticed that the car was no longer accelerating like before and the next thing, it stopped at a very dangerous area of the ikorodu axis and he placed a call to our towing team. I tried to call the nearest truck to ikorodu but no one dared to go there. Next was to help them remove the gear from park because he found someone who had volunteered to help with the towing. I tried explaining to them the process but they couldn't get it. Then a police officer called to beg me to come over and assist. This time, it was already midnight. The battery was dead from the constant vain effort to start the car and they did not know where to jumpstart the car. I eventually went to the place and I was there by 1 am and dragged the car to Ikeja with a sienna towing me and the owner driving the car I came with. Though it was not advisable, I had to manage the car with the gear cable lifted up till we got to Ikeja. Except for the sump,crankshaft and one of the cylinders which were still okay, everything else was changed. The block engine cracked and affected the cylinder, the pistons flew out of its place. So in a nutshell, he told me that it was after he put the green coolant into the car that the car finally decided to stop moving. He said that he was not aware that he could use water instead of the coolant. His friends who were with him in the car confirmed the story.
Re: Range Rover Sports Club by sooperrescue(m): 4:13am On Jun 25, 2022
Just like the one we are currently fixing, the guy said he bought it for his wife just 3 months ago and another mechanic just fixed the engine and he was driving around Alausa and the engine gave up. For this job, the sump, block, crankshaft, and one cylinder head gave up the spirit and four pistons. Getting a new engine was out of the equation and we finished the rebuilding just last night. Just last two weeks, we got an engine for the same v6 because the owner arranged the purchase. There's another v6 that we have dismantled the engine but the owner is still contemplating whether or not to rebuild or buy the engine. This brought up the question about the failure of the V6 engine . Lejeun told me that it might be that the supercharged is too much for the engine. He said that the Evoque also suffers from engine issues and never the gear. Since a lot of the experts are following, what is the solution because the owners are not smiling about the problem. Any other idea?

Re: Range Rover Sports Club by sooperrescue(m): 4:23am On Jun 25, 2022
Make una clap for me.

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Re: Range Rover Sports Club by GAZZUZZ(m): 6:20am On Jun 25, 2022
sooperrescue:
Hmmm. The guy was driving with a red intermittent coolant level low on the dashboard and according to him decided to buy coolant at a petrol station in ikorodu axis and still according to him, immediately he poured the green coolant after he waited for the engine to cool down, he drove out of the station and he noticed that the car was no longer accelerating like before and the next thing, it stopped at a very dangerous area of the ikorodu axis and he placed a call to our towing team. I tried to call the nearest truck to ikorodu but no one dared to go there. Next was to help them remove the gear from park because he found someone who had volunteered to help with the towing. I tried explaining to them the process but they couldn't get it. Then a police officer called to beg me to come over and assist. This time, it was already midnight. The battery was dead from the constant vain effort to start the car and they did not know where to jumpstart the car. I eventually went to the place and I was there by 1 am and dragged the car to Ikeja with a sienna towing me and the owner driving the car I came with. Though it was not advisable, I had to manage the car with the gear cable lifted up till we got to Ikeja. [b]Except for the sump,crankshaft and one of the cylinders which were still okay, everything else was changed. The block engine cracked and affected the cylinder, the pistons flew out of its place. So in a nutshell, he told me that it was after he put the green coolant into the car that the car finally [/b]decided to stop moving. He said that he was not aware that he could use water instead of the coolant. His friends who were with him in the car confirmed the story.


Hydrolock caused by coolant (non compressible fluid) getting into combustion chamber (blown gasket) it's not rocket science.

Mixing red blue or pink coolant will not cause an engine to fail immediately.


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Re: Range Rover Sports Club by banky3w(m): 7:27am On Jun 25, 2022
sooperrescue:
Hmmm. I have two direct 2013 range Rover sport for sale. Poorly used but repairs guaranteed.
Can I daily drive these?
Re: Range Rover Sports Club by sooperrescue(m): 8:49am On Jun 25, 2022
banky3w:

Can I daily drive these?

Sure it’s a daily drive car
Re: Range Rover Sports Club by sooperrescue(m): 8:56am On Jun 25, 2022
GAZZUZZ:



Hydrolock caused by coolant (non compressible fluid) getting into combustion chamber (blown gasket) it's not rocket science.

Mixing red blue or pink coolant will not cause an engine to fail immediately.



Red and green coolant. First it’s on a Rangerover. Second, what type of coolants are they selling at petrol stations ? Third, the owner confirmed that he used the green coolant on the red already in the car. Like you confirmed with your post, it will destroy the head gasket. So imagine the cheap coolant being sold locally on a V6 supercharged of a Rangerover, you will get a volcanic eruption in the engine and that was what happened
Re: Range Rover Sports Club by kingreign(m): 9:47am On Jun 25, 2022
sooperrescue:


Red and green coolant. First it’s on a Rangerover. Second, what type of coolants are they selling at petrol stations ? Third, the owner confirmed that he used the green coolant on the red already in the car. Like you confirmed with your post, it will destroy the head gasket. So imagine the cheap coolant being sold locally on a V6 supercharged of a Rangerover, you will get a volcanic eruption in the engine and that was what happened

Bros, you are a technically inclined individual, likewise Gazzuzz and I. Learn to think outside the box (no insult meant).

Use of non specified coolant didn’t damage the engine, but an existing fault did. If the gasket was bad or cylinder cracked or the car had ingested water thru the intake, it could result in such catastrophic damage.

I’m more inclined to thinking the car had ingested water thru it’s valves or the boost pressure was suddenly greater than what the engine could safely handle and quickly dissipate via its or blowoff or bypass valve (if equipped with one).
Re: Range Rover Sports Club by GAZZUZZ(m): 9:58am On Jun 25, 2022
sooperrescue:


Red and green coolant. First it’s on a Rangerover. Second, what type of coolants are they selling at petrol stations ? Third, the owner confirmed that he used the green coolant on the red already in the car. Like you confirmed with your post, it will destroy the head gasket. So imagine the cheap coolant being sold locally on a V6 supercharged of a Rangerover, you will get a volcanic eruption in the engine and that was what happened

Mixing coolants will not destroy head gasket and not in 5mins


https://gearslap.com/can-you-mix-coolant-antifreeze/

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Re: Range Rover Sports Club by 9icetoo(m): 10:56am On Jun 25, 2022
sooperrescue:


Red and green coolant. First it’s on a Rangerover. Second, what type of coolants are they selling at petrol stations ? Third, the owner confirmed that he used the green coolant on the red already in the car. Like you confirmed with your post, it will destroy the head gasket. So imagine the cheap coolant being sold locally on a V6 supercharged of a Rangerover, you will get a volcanic eruption in the engine and that was what happened
First, forget this range Rover bullshit. If not, you would never grasp what others are trying to tell you here.

Summary:
1. Coolants can be mixed short term. Effect will not be felt in five minutes
2. Engine had an underlying problem hence coolant loss
3. Owners often embellish stories.
4. Engine may have overheated (coolant was low in the first place) and owner may not have been aware.


Those engines are rubbish by the way.
Owners are going thru hell.

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Re: Range Rover Sports Club by erico2k2(m): 11:06am On Jun 25, 2022
sooperrescue:


I had a 2015 V6 that we overhauled. The owner was driving with coolant level low and decided to buy coolant and immediately he added green coolant to the red one inside and the engine knocked after five minutes of driving.
you are not meant to mix
Re: Range Rover Sports Club by mammanbawa: 12:16pm On Jun 25, 2022
sooperrescue:
Hmmm. The guy was driving with a red intermittent coolant level low on the dashboard and according to him decided to buy coolant at a petrol station in ikorodu axis and still according to him, immediately he poured the green coolant after he waited for the engine to cool down, he drove out of the station and he noticed that the car was no longer accelerating like before and the next thing, it stopped at a very dangerous area of the ikorodu axis and he placed a call to our towing team. I tried to call the nearest truck to ikorodu but no one dared to go there. Next was to help them remove the gear from park because he found someone who had volunteered to help with the towing. I tried explaining to them the process but they couldn't get it. Then a police officer called to beg me to come over and assist. This time, it was already midnight. The battery was dead from the constant vain effort to start the car and they did not know where to jumpstart the car. I eventually went to the place and I was there by 1 am and dragged the car to Ikeja with a sienna towing me and the owner driving the car I came with. Though it was not advisable, I had to manage the car with the gear cable lifted up till we got to Ikeja. Except for the sump,crankshaft and one of the cylinders which were still okay, everything else was changed. The block engine cracked and affected the cylinder, the pistons flew out of its place. So in a nutshell, he told me that it was after he put the green coolant into the car that the car finally decided to stop moving. He said that he was not aware that he could use water instead of the coolant. His friends who were with him in the car confirmed the story.

His engine hydrolocked cos of a failed gasket. Even if he used factory range rover coolant, e for still kaput

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