I didn't generalize. Besides I have lived with atheists, worked with them and have them as friends. The genuine ones don't just care about religion generally, they are neutral. Instead they are realist and focus on the things they are passionate about. Most of them I know are artists, very creative and very passionate about visual things. What you won't see them doing is setting up opportunities to argue the existence of God. They don't even think about God or talk about it. They respect people's beliefs but don't try pushing yours on them.

The ones who scream "I'm an atheist" and spend time insulting people's beliefs are the angry ones. They will quote a bible they claim not to believe and keep telling you to prove the existence of God. Why should you prove it to them? Obviously they are looking for God and thinking about him constantly, but they are also angry.

We have thousands of religions around the world but you won't see them antagonizing them. They won't even dare go near the Qur'an or Muslims. But instead, they go to familiar ground where their foundation is.

Again many of the atheists you see are not genuine, only very few are. You may be among the few but it's your choice to decide.

Wilgrea7:


While I can't speak for the remaining 2 categories, I think you may be wrong on the first one. Sure, I'm not denying the possibility that people like this could exist, but disbelieving in a god simply because you didn't get answers to your prayers is a pretty poor reason.

If there's one thing I can relate to, it's the part of not being convinced about the existence of a God, or at least, in the sense that religion tries to paint it. This isn't due to some prayer that didn't get answered. It's simply due to lack of evidence for the concept of God painted by religion. This is me speaking for myself btw. I can't verify what other non-believers think.

Kobojunkie:
There you go again pretending to speak for me. I already confirmation for what is my belief. And my belief, I know is Truth. You may not have and know what I know but we are definitely not in the same boat.

By the way, up until October 2017, I used to be atheist myself. I was never a believer before the faithful night it all turned for me. And it has never been the way it used to everyday since then...

I'm not speaking for you. You have your truth, and I have my truth. Since the two truths are not the same, one can only conclude they are subjective. This truth you speak of has been told to you since birth... If you had lived 140 years prior, you would never had had this particular truth.

Maynman:


Now using the same standard you use for Big Bang theory, isn’t the religion narratives more dumb?

It shows to be that no matter how hard we try, that Supreme BEING will forever be an unsolved equation and can only be if and when he is ready to reveal.
We talking about earth being billions of years old. Nigeria self nor get 5000 years memory or archeological evidence of existence to start with.

You're right but here's what I think. Religion doesn't confuse people. It's human nature to doubt, to argue and disbelief.

Even in our society today, if someone sends out a video, 100 people watch it. You would be surprised that only 20 people will believe what they are seeing with their two eyes. Some people will be asking for context, some people will say it was edited, some people will say it's a skit. Eventually that incident will be made meaningless and the message the video intends to pass will be lost.

Like I said it's not just religion, it's everything. The idea of Christianity was not to force people to believe. It was to pass a message, a truth to people. God knew many would not believe, many will counter it. Why? Remember we have free will, which means we get to decide. If we want to follow or not. So don't make excuses for people when they don't believe, it's the choice they have made. Besides Jesus did not bring religion, he brought spiritual truth, so yes I agree with you. One should be a believer rather than being religious.

Akalia:
For the record, I won't blame many atheists partly for not believing in the existence of the Almighty Jehovah GOD but I will rather blame religion for imparting the wrong knowledge of GOD in them when they were still conformists.

You see, religion was supposed to help people find their path to the throne of the almighty but instead it only brings utter confusion to the minds of conformists. This confusion arises from a myriad of misconceptions about God, doctrines and dogmas crafted by man's imagination instead of by God's inspiration.

Personally, I do not identify with any religion but I identify as a believer- a believer of the gospel, the finished work of christ on the cross of calvary; the trinity, heaven and hell and all other things based on biblical knowledge solely.

Today's contemporary Religions are all man made and do not reflect God's inspired religion in anyway, if you doubt me then read James 1:27 to understand what true religion is all about.

My advice to all Atheists and wannabe Atheists out there is to turn away from whatever dissapointments they experienced while conforming to religion in the time past.

GOD truly exists, no bullshitting here but to attest to his existence one has got to connect on a personal basis through Jesus christ and not through some religion or religious leader.

snookcg:


What big bang!? Even the big bang is subject to debate and are backed by questionable theories and practicals and has been changed by new evidences and items taken from the moon. Make una dey watch una DStv Discovery channels well. Every chemistry physics of this world is a subject to all new proven calculations and evidence.

That's why I asked someone here earlier on if he believes in science. They don't follow science closely. Recent discoveries, especially in astrophysics, have altered many of these crazy assertions that so called atheist are using as the best cards in their pack.

Like I said Nigeria is not among the top 10 religious countries in the world. You can go confirm but that's the truth. The US and the UK are very religious but their religion is not restricted to Christianity and Islam. They have a lot of pagans and not necessarily atheists, in fact you'd be surprised at the population of atheists in those countries.

So here's what you should be if you're truly atheist. Focus on the things you love, leave the imaginary things to the mental people. However, if you are constantly fighting Christians on nairaland, you are part of the angry category. You're not looking for evidence, but you're finding a reason to be mad at God and possibly insult him in whatever way you can. That's not atheism, but pure anger your God.

Angel55555:

Nigeria is one of the most religious countries in the world due to the size of our population, we should be number 7 or 8 i think.

I'm not generalising it, you can't compare how a religious person in an industrial country like the UK or US thinks compared to a third world country like Nigeria. Young people are introduced to science at an early age over there compared to here in Nigeria, there's stable light, security and working infrastructure. They are taught that there's always a reasonable scientific explanation for everything in life, where by in Nigeria people always make up religious and traditional stories for every damn thing, even if it is something that you just need to use your common sense to evaluate.

I'm not against religion, everyone is entitled to their beliefs.

nextstep:
I'm not speaking for you. You have your truth, and I have my truth. Since the two truths are not the same, one can only conclude they are subjective. This truth you speak of has been told to you since birth... If you had lived 140 years prior, you would never had had this particular truth.

Yet you continue to speak off me.

Again, the Truth I believe in isn't subjective since the source is not of me, and again, I was never told this truth since my birth, so try to stick to speaking for yourself and not others in this.

The Truth I believe in is over 2000 years old, so it was even more than 140 years ago.

I'm not an Atheist, I'm a fvckin Heathen!

sundaygray:


I studied the bible too a lot. Everything sounded like a myth just like there’s Zeus and mount olympus, and santa. There’s lack of evidence that’s the problem.

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There is God.

Learn to read the Bible with an open mind. If you take it seriously, you may end up becoming an atheist.

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tarboshi:
AFRICAN atheist does not exist
Just as INDIAN atheist does not exist

Believe me

how sir?

I realised that before birth while I was growing in my mother's womb, I didn't have knowledge of anything but somehow I was breathing, so in my mind I thought to myself ,if my mother decided to terminate me, I'll still not have any knowledge of anything, the same thing will therefore apply to me when I grow old and die, so I concluded that the state I was before birth, would happen after my death too , cos in the first place ,the brain to remind me of all my activities on earth would have been lowered in the grain and eaten by termites, making me draw the conclusion that we all existed by chance and not in any way different from animals...So there's no God anywhere.

Who says Zeus and Odin aren't real? What's the point of reading a book when you have a closed mind. It's like having a book and making a copy only to shelf it.

I'm sorry you're not seeking knowledge, you're seeking a reason to deny knowledge. Besides atheism does not mean lack of belief in the Christian God. So why are you fixated on Christians? Why do you even read religious books, I will have to ask if you're purpose is to not believe?

Well like I said majority of atheists won't even tell themselves the truth. You're not honest with yourself.

Blakjewelry:

The whole disappointment thing you guys keeping hitting at is from your head. If you are hungry for knowledge there is no way you will stick to one religious teaching. I have read history books which record as earliest as possible when man started documenting his own history to archeological findings to putting in the pieces and many religious books to alot of ancient Jewish history to their culture, science, astronomy and all that, so if you come here try to say what you think as the reason for my stand, I have nothing to say but laugh at you. Merge all the knowledge together and you will find your god is no different from Zeus and Odin.

sundaygray:
Omo i observed the life, learned different religions sat down and thought about life in general and also, never had a spiritual encounter i have spent money, a lot of money for a spiritual encounter but no level baba.The lack of evidence just make me chill. Unless God appears and shows himself to me, no level

WTF AM I READING HERE? God abeg o!! I leave y'all in peace

sundaygray:
Omo i observed the life, learned different religions sat down and thought about life in general and also, never had a spiritual encounter i have spent money, a lot of money for a spiritual encounter but no level baba.The lack of evidence just make me chill. Unless God appears and shows himself to me, no level

peggywebbs:
I didn't generalize. Besides I have lived with atheists, worked with them and have them as friends. The genuine ones don't just care about religion generally, they are neutral. Instead they are realist and focus on the things they are passionate about. Most of them I know are artists, very creative and very passionate about visual things. What you won't see them doing is setting up opportunities to argue the existence of God. They don't even think about God or talk about it. They respect people's beliefs but don't try pushing yours on them.

The ones who scream "I'm an atheist" and spend time insulting people's beliefs are the angry ones. They will quote a bible they claim not to believe and keep telling you to prove the existence of God. Why should you prove it to them? Obviously they are looking for God and thinking about him constantly, but they are also angry.

We have thousands of religions around the world but you won't see them antagonizing them. They won't even dare go near the Qur'an or Muslims. But instead, they go to familiar ground where their foundation is.

Again many of the atheists you see are not genuine, only very few are. You may be among the few but it's your choice to decide.

I've certainly noticed the "angry atheist" type you're talking about. I think it's because they feel the years they spent in religion robbed them of some sort of life or the other. Especially for those brought up in fundamentalist religious homes.

Plus, some religious societies, especially places like Nigeria don't like atheists. And the anger they exhibit online is their way of retaliating against the hate they receive from society. Although if you ask me, that's preaching to the wrong crowd. Plus, insulting someone else's beliefs hardly accomplishes anything.

If i'm being honest, there was once a time i used to love engaging in religious debates. Not in the insultive way tho. I was just eager to share the knowledge I had gained on religious subjects.

I later stopped tho, because I realized that for most people, belief in a god is what keeps them sane, or what gets them through some hard times in life and helps them stay at peace. I wouldn't want to take that away from them, so I generally tend to avoid most religious debates in person these days.

Except of course if someone comes up to me and insists they know everything about life and the universe. Then i let them have it.

Kobojunkie:
There you go again pretending to speak for me. I already confirmation for what is my belief. And my belief, I know is Truth. You may not have and know what I know but we are definitely not in the same boat.

By the way, up until October 2017, I used to be atheist myself. I was never a believer before the faithful night it all turned for me. And it has never been the way it used to everyday since then...

wat happened dat night

Wilgrea7:


I'm curious as to what led you to this conclusion

Because in a quest for answers, we are left with more questions. And the mysteries of the universe seem much more than imagined. A lot of people who go down this path, often begin to question the meaning of life.

peggywebbs:
Like I said Nigeria is not among the top 10 religious countries in the world. You can go confirm but that's the truth. The US and the UK are very religious but their religion is not restricted to Christianity and Islam. They have a lot of pagans and not necessarily atheists, in fact you'd be surprised at the population of atheists in those countries.

So here's what you should be if you're truly atheist. Focus on the things you love, leave the imaginary things to the mental people. However, if you are constantly fighting Christians on nairaland, you are part of the angry category. You're not looking for evidence, but you're finding a reason to be mad at God and possibly insult him in whatever way you can. That's not atheism, but pure anger your God.

Like I said earlier, Nigeria is one of the most religious countries in the world. The ss is from the world book atlas. Trust me the way a typical religious person in the US thinks is different from what we have here, people are more open minded there regardless of your religion, they believe humanity comes first before anything else it's the opposite in present day Nigeria.

I didn't say anything like religious people are mentally unstable. I'm agnostic I've nothing against religious people as long as you don't disturb others with your religion or make yourself a nuisance in the society. Lastly, not everyone who is not religious is mad at God.

SmartPolician:


God can never appear to any man if that's what you expect.

He wants to know people who genuinely love and fear Him without seeing Him.


It's better to believe that heaven exists, prepare for it and later find out that it doesn't exist than not believe that heaven exists, live a reckless lifestyle and find out that hell is real.

Copy copy, e no good ooo, think for your self ooo,e go better, better better better shame.

Speaklove:


You took the wrong steps my friend .
Check this out .
https://www.nairaland.com/6733184/spiritual-experiences-might-hadmight-futureand

Or just click on my monicker and go through it

Oga relax. We hear stories everyday. I was a good spreader of the stories too of these spiritual encounters. Na so so story. Lol

ajekpaks:


Mr. Sane, I agree I am mad because I refuse to accept the junk stuffed down your throats... I'm sorry



Ordinary Satan hold your God for work since Genesis, upon say Jesus don come earth yet na still same same... tell me WEtin come be the use exactly of God?

Na him use him hand create Satan, Satan Fuxk up, next thing e go create Adam, Satan still fuxk Adam up, na still God come use him hand go build hell fire wet him go dey put people wey Satan don fuxk up... that effort wey him use dey construct hell why him no use am fix Satan up once and for all?

Tell me?

Op has invited you atheists to a festival so enjoy yourself.

UncleAyo:
Everybody was actually born atheist. We grow up to learn about religion. We were only indoctrinated while growing up.


Growing up, I thought I was going to become a pastor. so I started reading (I've completed the bible more that thrice) and memorize the bible very early. It was the bible itself that makes me to ask a lot of questions that led to my factory re-set. The God of the bible seem unrighteous to me, thinks and act like human.


There is nothing like a God-being in our factory re-set, there is no heaven, there is no hell. We only learn those things while growing up.

That is why almost every body believes the that God of their individual parents is the only God and that his religion is the only accepted religion.

I read about 'historical Jesus' too. And discover that all of our cherished stories are fabricated and not true.

It will surprise you to know that:

-- there is no real historical Jesus in the world true human history. Many fabricated stories....
-- there is no heaven
-- there is no hell
-- prayer doesn't get answered
-- there is no spirit
-- there is no Angel
-- there is no Satan
-- there is no life after death or after life
-- charms don't work
-- there is no karma
-- there are no witches and wizard


I believe religion makes people to be more evil than good. Many are kept under the fear of heaven and hell to do the little good they can. They are not allowed to experience the true beauty of being good, honest, diligent and being a person of integrity without the fear of hell destruction, or expectation of an heavenly reward or karma.

Brilliant!

You forgot to add - no money from any money ritual.
The thing about theists is that they are the weaker minded types, not willing to task their minds, yet they desire the good outcomes in life. They often say atheists are immoral, but the opposite is true, as you have elucidated above. Atheists are analytical, clear minded and forthright, therefore they make solid citizens. Religionists battle fear, bias and myopia.

crystalmoon:
Which scientist told you that

Do you even read at all?

The likes of Einstein had to admit that the world was too complex without an "intelligent designer" behind it.

Stephen Hawking had something to say ...
While a confused wannabe like you want to deny the undeniable?!

Big bang theory,Darwin n co.including d founder n father atheism.have successfully been used by d devil to deceived sm ppo in did world.
Am grateful I came frm a Christian background. But if am not,cos of my curious nature,I wud av left any oda religion n came 2christianity..DAT aside.
2d topic,proof of God is d air u breathe,water u drink,rocks,hills,sea animals,man is also a proof etc.
D so called atheist, shud cm n explain how dis yahoo plus plus boys lure cash frm their victims.or dey tink its just mere chatting.
Sm1 controlled a white lady,to nig.u think its a fluke.
Dem never just jazz for dem,dats y their mouth dey sharp.
Now,y am I pointing dis out,supernatural forces control this life.. Check supernatural on dictionary. Its either u r for God,or d devil.
Hollywood celebrities, sm of dem know dis,dey engage in occultism.
Ntin like I no bliv in devil or God,but in d end,any1 who embrace d grave without God,na highway to hellfire.cos u not believing in God means u of d devil even if an atheist say no,indirectly u r.
Get ur head straight, ask wat if its true.
Hollywood passes a msg,its not a mere fluke.

elonize:
wat happened dat night

I believe what I experienced is what amounts to being born in spirit, a part of the born-again process.. I

Gosunndi:

Brilliant!

You forgot to add - no money from any money ritual.
The thing about theists is that they are the weaker minded types, not willing to task their minds, yet they desire the good outcomes in life. They often say atheists are immoral, but the opposite is true, as you have elucidated above. Atheists are analytical, clear minded and forthright, therefore they make solid citizens. Religionists battle fear, bias and myopia.

It's a big lie?!

Your atheism still relies heavily on what and how humans view certain actions as good and bad...

Let me ask a questions: what does atheism says about rape?

sundaygray:
Omo i observed the life, learned different religions sat down and thought about life in general and also, never had a spiritual encounter i have spent money, a lot of money for a spiritual encounter but no level baba.The lack of evidence just make me chill. Unless God appears and shows himself to me, no level

The fact that you are able to write this thing you might call sensible is enough proof that God exists. There is no sensible creature without a sensible creator.

I'm not an atheist. And I would never be one.

I'm not foolish enough to believe that God does not exist.

D Bible is not really a story book,its contains guidance, etc.n it was written by d inspiration of d holy spirit. God reveals d past,present n future.
N d tin is,sm of those scientists d atheist so believe might b an occult member. Sm ppo sha.pray mk u no enter big mess dat is life threatening. N still d devil will cage dem to take dis believe to d grave.
Atheist open ur mind

peggywebbs:
Who says Zeus and Odin aren't real? What's the point of reading a book when you have a closed mind. It's like having a book and making a copy only to shelf it.

I'm sorry you're not seeking knowledge, you're seeking a reason to deny knowledge. Besides atheism does not mean lack of belief in the Christian God. So why are you fixated on Christians? Why do you even read religious books, I will have to ask if you're purpose is to not believe?

Well like I said majority of atheists won't even tell themselves the truth. You're not honest with yourself.

I didn't focus on Christians rather I emphasize on the Jewish religion which is one of the oldest known religion which give birth to both christian and Islam. Plus go tell the average christian or Muslim that Zeus, Odin Buda is real. I see myself as a free thinker, a closed mind is often associated with religious folks because you are not allowed to ask questions, I bet there are questions you asked when you were kids but you won't bring yourself to ask today because it will mean you questioning god but I am free from such bonds. Simple put, religion is bad science. It was use by early men to explain the nature of there environment, modern science actually breaks off from old religion, man is a curious being I can limit my brain power while I am alive, there is enough time to rest when I die.

HealerH:
Atheism is a lazy man's excuse for living an immoral lifestyle.

Christianity is a lazy man's excuse to eat cow meat to spite the Hindus

Friend22:


Do you even read at all?

The likes of Einstein had to admit that the world was too complex without an "intelligent designer" behind it.

Stephen Hawking had something to say ...
While a confused wannabe like you want to deny the undeniable?!

Einstein was not the limit of intelligence ... neither was Hawking


The world has no purpose.