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Re: No End In Sight To ASUU, Federal Government Face Off by Truthisunique2: 10:44am On Jun 30, 2022
dogmart:


So because one civil servant looted 80b, the lecturers too should be allowed to continue with their looting? grin

Weldone sir
no, my point is don't start finding excuse for FG

They should do the right thing, since their sis enough money to waste
Re: No End In Sight To ASUU, Federal Government Face Off by dogmart(m): 10:46am On Jun 30, 2022
Truthisunique2:
no, my point is don't start finding excuse for FG

They should do the right thing, since their sis enough money to waste

Do you know what the union is really fighting g for?
Not the fake story about "spending money on University" they are fonting with o

The real REASON behind their agitations.

Do you?
Re: No End In Sight To ASUU, Federal Government Face Off by PJ123: 10:50am On Jun 30, 2022
Truthisunique2:
all noise

One civil servant alone looted 80billion how much is FG paying the entire lecturers that you are crying

How much are they paying secondary school teachers? Or Primary school teachers? Or our doctors who toil day and night in hospitals?
University lecturers are not the only set of people in Nigeria and comparatively, they are among the most privileged Nigerians.

Should everyone now go on strike because whatever every sector is being paid is quite low compared to what was looted?
Shutting the door of University for months makes no sense. If you want to earn what politicians are earning, resign and contest.

I have so many lecturers friends that received TETFUND and used the money to build houses and bought cars. That was money meant for research.

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Re: No End In Sight To ASUU, Federal Government Face Off by sinkhole: 11:27am On Jun 30, 2022
blinking001:
So far it's been evident that ASUU as a union is bitting more than they can chew.
It's common knowledge now what their grievances with the federal government are. We all know ASUU is fighting for their selfish interest with zero considerations and regards for our children in public universities.

The federal government are the employers of ASUU members, the courtesy and respect the federal government has shown ASUU so far should be commended by all.

ASUU has no right to demand for a different payment system asides the IPPS payment platform which is the major payment system the federal government has been using to pay her workers. ASUU insistence on UTAS just so they can continue milking the federal government of excess funds should be condemned by all.

The IPPS exposed most professors in our public universities, as it was evident some were teaching in 5 different public institutions and earned 5 seperate salaries, an anomaly the IPPS graciously obliterated to the dismay of ASUU members. ASUU as a union is too corrupt and must be exposed. They never had the interest of Nigerian students and their education at heart, all they are after is more money.

It's time ASUU is disbanded. They are constituting a nuisance to the growth of our educational sector. The federal government should employ public opinion against them.

Enough of ASUU's high handedness, the federal government should fix a date for school resumptions, any lecturer that fails to keep up with this directive should be fired and interviews for newly qualified lecturers should be advertised. It's time the federal government acts so our educational sector can saved from the hands of selfish pressure groups such as ASUU.
Bros, if you are benefiting from IPPIS then good for you, Universities said they do not want IPPIS and they brought cheaper alternative, FG has looked into the alternative and soon, I mean very soon, things will normalize for both students and lecturers!

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Re: No End In Sight To ASUU, Federal Government Face Off by sinkhole: 11:31am On Jun 30, 2022
PJ123:


How much are they paying secondary school teachers? Or Primary school teachers? Or our doctors who toil day and night in hospitals?
University lecturers are not the only set of people in Nigeria and comparatively, they are among the most privileged Nigerians.

Should everyone now go on strike because whatever every sector is being paid is quite low compared to what was looted?
Shutting the door of University for months makes no sense. If you want to earn what politicians are earning, resign and contest.

I have so many lecturers friends that received TETFUND and used the money to build houses and bought cars. That was money meant for research.
If other deprived people in Nigeria are not talking that does mean that a deprived ASUU or those who want to talk should do "mumu" and shot-up!
If anybody embezzle TETFund money, it is the duty of FG through the same TETFund to fish out and punish such lecturer/researcher, if they failed then you can not blame the defaulter! How can you blame a thief when police refused to do their work?

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Re: No End In Sight To ASUU, Federal Government Face Off by kingyakos: 11:31am On Jun 30, 2022
Truthisunique2:
If buhari didn't sell tinubu a dummy, I wonder how hard it is for him to meet up with the ASUU demands

Educational sector is officially a mess, how tilumbu wan take campaign now with the same apc to sane youths and parents

Anything when make the strike reach September that means na till after election and more home goals for apc that have failed in security and economy


Buhari is purposely keeping ASSU and student at home to destroy APC kpatakpata and in that motive they gave APC presidential ticket to the South and keep the PDP ticket to themselves because after painting APC red, Nigerians will have no reason for voting APC but rather will choose to vote PDP.

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Re: No End In Sight To ASUU, Federal Government Face Off by AlexJustin(m): 11:37am On Jun 30, 2022
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Re: No End In Sight To ASUU, Federal Government Face Off by PJ123: 11:37am On Jun 30, 2022
[quote author=sinkhole post=114288204]If other deprived people in Nigeria are not talking that does mean that a deprived ASUU or those who want to talk should do "mumu" and shot-up!
If anybody embezzle TETFund money, it is the duty of FG through the same TETFund to fish out and punish such lecturer/researcher, if they failed then you can not blame the defaulter! How can you blame a thief when police refused to do their work?[/quote

While it's their to go on strike, you cannot shut the door of University for months and expected to be paid. Also, they should stop telling the public and they're fighting for students. They're wicked set of human beings.
Unfortunately, the corruption and politics in University system is worse than in the government.
I just hope government can be very decisive.
Re: No End In Sight To ASUU, Federal Government Face Off by sinkhole: 11:40am On Jun 30, 2022
PJ123:


ASUU is a very selfish union. They're tactically fighting for their selfsh interest and hiding under the image of fighting for students.
Imagine refusing to work for several months and expected to be paid to during the strike or at worst all the accumulated salaries after the strike. They didn't loose anything fighting for their supposed selfsh interest.

Virtually all the sectors of Nigerian economy is in serious crisis. Imagine the situation of our doctors and state of the hospitals in Nigeria, if doctors go on strike for 4 months given the pressure they go through daily and poor state of health facilities, what would be the fate many poor Nigerian patients who still patronise government hospitals and some of them still receive their health care in those government facilities.

Government needs to be very decisive with this union, funding of Universities throughout the world is a concerted efforts of the government, universities, private sectors and the alumni.
Many professors in Canadian Universities are appointed on part time basis.
Government needs to grant these universities financial autonomy. Government should stop paying university salaries, all government needs to do is to provide subvention from time, and allow each university to source money to pay whoever they employed as lecturers. The students should be made to pay the actual cost of the University education as obtainable elsewhere. While government should provide comprehensive scholarships for students on 2:1 and above, while those on 2:2 below with clear cut evidence of being an indigent students should be placed on loan to be repaid after school.
Bros, let us mind what we say about those who are struggling to ensure that our future is brighter than today! I read in news today that Plateau Polytechnic is about to be closed down due to lack of fund, the only viable thing in that school is by TETFund. The state government has refused to do anything, even rufsed to pay staff salaries!
I don't know if you're a student or not, if you're one then check your the buildings in your school, you will discover that most of them are marked TETFund, that is because TETFund was the one that built those buildings.
Do you know that one of the numerous ASUU strikes brought TETFund? I guess you do not know!

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Re: No End In Sight To ASUU, Federal Government Face Off by Nobody: 11:42am On Jun 30, 2022
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Re: No End In Sight To ASUU, Federal Government Face Off by PJ123: 11:43am On Jun 30, 2022
sinkhole:
If other deprived people in Nigeria are not talking that does mean that a deprived ASUU or those who want to talk should do "mumu" and shot-up!
If anybody embezzle TETFund money, it is the duty of FG through the same TETFund to fish out and punish such lecturer/researcher, if they failed then you can not blame the defaulter! How can you blame a thief when police refused to do their work?

ASUU is only thriving because of the weakness in labour laws in Nigeria. If there's a strong and unbroken law on 'No work, No pay' , then you would understand what I'm saying.
It makes no sense shutting the door of university for months and still collect the salaries after the strike. That's already a motivation for strike.
If you know that if you don't work, you won't pay, you will think well before going on strike.
ASUU should stop telling the public they're fighting for students, the politics and corruption and stealing in Universities is worse.
Re: No End In Sight To ASUU, Federal Government Face Off by Nobody: 11:44am On Jun 30, 2022
dogmart:


Do you know what the union is really fighting g for?
Not the fake story about "spending money on University" they are fonting with o

The real REASON behind their agitations.

Do you?
Can't fg just disband this union

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Re: No End In Sight To ASUU, Federal Government Face Off by Nobody: 11:45am On Jun 30, 2022
PJ123:


ASUU is only thriving because the weakness in labour laws in Nigeria. If there's a strong and unbroken law on 'No work, No pay' , then you would what I'm saying.
It makes no sense shutting the door of university for months and still collect the salaries after the strike. That's already a motivation for strike.
If you know that if you don't work, you won't pay, you will think we'll before going on strike.
ASUU should telling the public they're fighting for students, the politics and corruption is worse.
But fg has already declared no work no pay
Re: No End In Sight To ASUU, Federal Government Face Off by sinkhole: 11:45am On Jun 30, 2022
kingyakos:



Buhari is purposely keeping ASSU and student at home to destroy APC kpatakpata and in that motive they gave APC presidential ticket to the South and keep the PDP ticket to themselves because after painting APC red, Nigerians will have no reason for voting APC but rather will choose to vote PDP.
NO, FG is also worried by what is going on, only that they are confused on how to solve the problem!
I can assure you that something will happen when Buhari comes back from his state visit to Portugal, next week.
Re: No End In Sight To ASUU, Federal Government Face Off by PJ123: 11:49am On Jun 30, 2022
Kaiair:

But fg has already declared no work no pay

Which yeye no work no pay, all the salaries will be paid before the strike is called off.

I know their operation. They're only withholding their salaries, ASUU will never call off the strike until all the accumulated salaries are paid.
And that's the weakness in the labor laws in Nigeria, it's not obtainable anywhere again.
Re: No End In Sight To ASUU, Federal Government Face Off by sinkhole: 11:49am On Jun 30, 2022
PJ123:


ASUU is only thriving because of the weakness in labour laws in Nigeria. If there's a strong and unbroken law on 'No work, No pay' , then you would understand what I'm saying.
It makes no sense shutting the door of university for months and still collect the salaries after the strike. That's already a motivation for strike.
If you know that if you don't work, you won't pay, you will think well before going on strike.
ASUU should stop telling the public they're fighting for students, the politics and corruption and stealing in Universities is worse.
There are stealing and bad politics in every sphere of life, but I have never heard of 80billion naira being stolen by a University official before embarassed

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Re: No End In Sight To ASUU, Federal Government Face Off by sinkhole: 11:51am On Jun 30, 2022
Kaiair:

Can't fg just disband this union
What you're asking for is like saying Military should takeover!

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Re: No End In Sight To ASUU, Federal Government Face Off by PJ123: 11:54am On Jun 30, 2022
[quote author=sinkhole post=114288639]There are stealing and bad politics in every sphere of life, but I have never heard of 80billion naira being stolen by a University official before embarassed[/quote
If you compare the amount of money individual have access to and what's stolen, you would know corruption in University is worse.
If I have access to #100, and I stole Le #50, and someone has access to #10000, and stole #100, you would agree with me that the first thief will be crucifying the second thief whereas he's a worse thief proportionately to the amount that pass through them.
Re: No End In Sight To ASUU, Federal Government Face Off by onyxo76(m): 11:56am On Jun 30, 2022
graphics112:
embarassed
This doesn't even affect the elite cos their kids are either abroad or in private universities.
There are people who have already lost the ability to go for NYSC cos of this strike.

Vote well this time oh.
not only nysc, you can't get transcript or statement of results in case you want to get schools abroad, you can't process your verification stuff in case you are due for retirement in some months time, you can't do transfer of service in case you got a job in another Federal parastatal, it's a complete mess i tell you.

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Re: No End In Sight To ASUU, Federal Government Face Off by sinkhole: 11:59am On Jun 30, 2022
PJ123:
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My point is, in Nigeria, where exactly don't we have theives?
When you talk about corruption in the University, then most of the corruption will be by NASU and SSANU members: they are the University bursar's, accountants, registrars and even in charge of recruitments!
If a VC is corrupt, then the bursar and registrar aided him.

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Re: No End In Sight To ASUU, Federal Government Face Off by ogaontop(m): 11:59am On Jun 30, 2022
blinking001:
So far it's been evident that ASUU as a union is bitting more than they can chew.
It's common knowledge now what their grievances with the federal government are. We all know ASUU is fighting for their selfish interest with zero considerations and regards for our children in public universities.

The federal government are the employers of ASUU members, the courtesy and respect the federal government has shown ASUU so far should be commended by all.

ASUU has no right to demand for a different payment system asides the IPPS payment platform which is the major payment system the federal government has been using to pay her workers. ASUU insistence on UTAS just so they can continue milking the federal government of excess funds should be condemned by all.

The IPPS exposed most professors in our public universities, as it was evident some were teaching in 5 different public institutions and earned 5 seperate salaries, an anomaly the IPPS graciously obliterated to the dismay of ASUU members. ASUU as a union is too corrupt and must be exposed. They never had the interest of Nigerian students and their education at heart, all they are after is more money.

It's time ASUU is disbanded. They are constituting a nuisance to the growth of our educational sector. The federal government should employ public opinion against them.

Enough of ASUU's high handedness, the federal government should fix a date for school resumptions, any lecturer that fails to keep up with this directive should be fired and interviews for newly qualified lecturers should be advertised. It's time the federal government acts so our educational sector can saved from the hands of selfish pressure groups such as ASUU.
You tried sounding intelligently but you don't have facts...
1. The federal government signed minimum wage into law, why is the minimum wage and arrears not being paid?
2. Revitalization money for the universities are being handled by FG, VC's or their contractors, not ASUU
3. IPPIS is massively flawed, imagine a situation where you have 6,000 staff and in IPPIS record they pay 7,000, they end up bloating the numbers straight to their pocket, of recent the AGF scooped more than 100billion through IPPIS
4. The NUC approved adjunct, sabbatical for Professors, a situation where you can go to another university as a part time, if that is their problem, then they should stop it and proceed with UTAS, ASUU is not hell bent on adjunct! Mark my words!!
5. Visitation panels: imagine a situation where ASUU is begging the government to set up visitation panels that will regularly check mate what is happening in the university management
6. The MAJOR issue here above others is FG implementing the terms of 2009, 2015, 2020 agreements it reached with the unions and even more recently listen to the resolutions of the committee you set up during the current strike and call ASUU for a truce!
What ASUU is asking for is not worth half of what their colleagues in South Africa and even neighbouring Ghana earn

Every responsible government will address these issues sensibly and call for a truce where need be!

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Re: No End In Sight To ASUU, Federal Government Face Off by frog12: 12:01pm On Jun 30, 2022
i support ASUU after all the CJNs received billions as pension

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Re: No End In Sight To ASUU, Federal Government Face Off by PJ123: 12:08pm On Jun 30, 2022
sinkhole:
Bros, let us mind what we say about those who are struggling to ensure that our future is brighter than today! I read in news today that Plateau Polytechnic is about to be closed down due to lack of fund, the only viable thing in that school is by TETFund. The state government has refused to do anything, even rufsed to pay staff salaries!
I don't know if you're a student or not, if you're one then check your the buildings in your school, you will discover that most of them are marked TETFund, that is because TETFund was the one that built those buildings.
Do you know that one of the numerous ASUU strikes brought TETFund? I guess you do not know!

Stop deceiving yourself!
ASUU is not fighting for anybody. They are fighting for their pockets and their families.
How can fight over salaries payment platform translate to improved buildings or how can increase in salaries translate to improved buildings. Please stop that.
Funding of the university is not done by government alone. It's combined efforts of government, institutions, private sector, international donors.
What's the cost of university education in Nigeria compared to South Africa, US or Canada or other decent climes.
You cannot be paying #50k per annum and wat to enjoy the service someone who's paying #800,000 per annum is enjoying.
University education is over subsidized in Nigeria and unfortunately societal benefits of university education is the least in any society throughout the world. The societal benefits of primary and secondary is highest to any society throughout the world that's why primary and secondary are almost free through the world.
Please ASUU should call off strike, all the stakeholders need to sit down on realistic ways to finance university education in today's realities. This is not 1980 where the population then wasn't up to Lagos. The current realities do not support what's ASUU is saying and they know it .

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Re: No End In Sight To ASUU, Federal Government Face Off by PJ123: 12:17pm On Jun 30, 2022
frog12:
i support ASUU after all the CJNs received billions as pension

Bros, how many CJN do you have? The amount wasn't just given to him but was stipulated in the constitution.
That's why we keep saying that the current constitution needs to be revisited.
All unions must put aside their selfsh interest and fight to ensure government do important things that can bring development to the nation at large and those things include:
Revisiting the constitution and decentralization of powers to the states

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Re: No End In Sight To ASUU, Federal Government Face Off by sinkhole: 12:23pm On Jun 30, 2022
PJ123:


Stop deceiving yourself!
ASUU is not fighting for anybody. They are fighting for their pockets and their families.
How can fight over salaries payment platform translate to improved buildings or how can increase in salaries translate to improved buildings. Please stop that.
Funding of the university is not done by government alone. It's combined efforts of government, institutions, private sector, international donors.
What's the cost of university education in Nigeria compared to South Africa, US or Canada or other decent climes.
You cannot be paying #50k per annum and wat to enjoy the service someone who's paying #800,000 per annum is enjoying.
University education is over subsidized in Nigeria and unfortunately societal benefits of university education is the least in any society throughout the world. The societal benefits of primary and secondary is highest to any society throughout the world that's why primary and secondary are almost free through the world.
Please ASUU should call off strike, all the stakeholders need to sit down on realistic ways to finance university education in today's realities. This is not 1980 where the population then wasn't up to Lagos. The current realities do not support what's ASUU is saying and they know it .
Perhaps, you are from a rich family!
Total sum of what students pay in Nigeria is around #100k and the minimum wage in Nigeria is around #30k.
Most of the parents who are trying to send their children to school only depends on small-small businesses in life!
Personally, I was raised by my late mother only, and we hawk foods around town to survive. During my time time in school, I paid #150 per session as fee and it was hell raising that amount that time!
I am close to ASUU and I know that what they are asking for is the best for Nigerians, of course they also want their salaries to go up and that is OK! How can you teach on empty stomach? I had taught before and I know that you have to be in a very good psychological mood to deliver properly in class!

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Re: No End In Sight To ASUU, Federal Government Face Off by frog12: 12:32pm On Jun 30, 2022
what constitution? it's not in constitution. it's in judiciary council rules. all past CJNs receive billions too. these guys are all scams and benefit themselves. that's why accountant-general take his own share of the treasury. I support ASUU. they should strike and turn everything upside down

PJ123:


Bros, how many CJN do you have? The amount wasn't just given to him but was stipulated in the constitution.
That's why we keep saying that the current constitution needs to be revisited.
All unions must put aside their selfsh interest and fight to ensure government do important things that can bring development to the nation at large and those things include:
Revisiting the constitution and decentralization of powers to the states
Re: No End In Sight To ASUU, Federal Government Face Off by PJ123: 12:45pm On Jun 30, 2022
sinkhole:
Perhaps, you are from a rich family!
Total sum of what students pay in Nigeria is around #100k and the minimum wage in Nigeria is around #30k.
Most of the parents who are trying to send their children to school only depends on small-small businesses in life!
Personally, I was raised by my late mother only, and we hawk foods around town to survive. During my time time in school, I paid #150 per session as fee and it was hell raising that amount that time!
I am close to ASUU and I know that what they are asking for is the best for Nigerians, of course they also want their salaries to go up and that is OK! How can you teach on empty stomach? I had taught before and I know that you have to be in a very good psychological mood to deliver properly in class!
Contrary to your your thought, I was also from a poor home and was a university lecturer for many years.
I understood what you went through because I went through harder situation and was privileged to have friend and together with my Vice Principal who paid my WAEC close to three decades ago.
The funding of university throughout the world is not done by government alone. Everyone contributes to it. Let the actual cost of university education be charged, while government allows each university to negotiate with each lecturer what each university can afford to pay them. Government should provide subvention from time to time to augment Capital infrastructure in university, and students on 2:1 and above should be placed on scholarships. Students on 2:2 and below(with clear evidence of being from poor home) shoukd be placed on borrowing to be paid back when they start working.
By so doing, you and I would have been covered and other poor students. It will encourage many students to work harder and everyone would have contributed to finance education.

I must be sincere with you, with years of my teaching in University, I came across many students that had no business with university education because they have passion and talent for other things. Unfortunately, they had to come because of too much noise on university education. Government subsidy on such students was a complete waste of resources. It would have made sense if the funds have been used to finance technical education, fashion school, football academy and music school.

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Re: No End In Sight To ASUU, Federal Government Face Off by dododawa1: 12:46pm On Jun 30, 2022
Everyone mind is on OBI ATIKU and TINUBU now,no time for STUDENTS matter.
Re: No End In Sight To ASUU, Federal Government Face Off by Enumerator(m): 1:00pm On Jun 30, 2022
Confirm!
pedrilo:
We cannot reap cocoyam after planting yam.
In 2015, Nigerians voted for a uneducated man to preside over the country.
Now, the educational system has collapsed.
Keep calm and reap the benefits of your labour in 2015.
And remember to repeat same mistake in 2023
Re: No End In Sight To ASUU, Federal Government Face Off by kingyakos: 1:01pm On Jun 30, 2022
sinkhole:
NO, FG is also worried by what is going on, only that they are confused on how to solve the problem!
I can assure you that something will happen when Buhari comes back from his state visit to Portugal, next week.



He has travelled outside the country more than five times since the strike commence and came back still no solution so this particular travelled and coming back won't change anything. If he is serious, he should first of all show it by paying them their three or four months salary of no work no pay, lecturers and other university staff are passing through alot.
Are you aware that the former CJN Mohammed tanko has received his retirement benefits alerts of 2.5b naira but university staff are suffering
Re: No End In Sight To ASUU, Federal Government Face Off by Interesting2023: 1:03pm On Jun 30, 2022
pedrilo:
We cannot reap cocoyam after planting yam.
In 2015, Nigerians voted for a uneducated man to preside over the country.
Now, the educational system has collapsed.
Keep calm and reap the benefits of your labour in 2015.
And remember to repeat same mistake in 2023

God bless you for this submission. You've said it all

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