"There's no place in the Bible where God asked you not to defend yourself..."

"When they slap you at the right cheek, turn the left, when they slap you at the left, what do you do?"

"Do you know what it means when God is silence? It's over to you."

God bless Pastor E.A. Adeboye,

God bless us all.

absoluteSuccess:
"There's no place in the Bible where God asked you not to defend yourself..."
"When they slap you at the right cheek, turn the left, when they slap you at the left, what do you do?"
"Do you know what it means when God is silence? It's over to you."
God bless Pastor E.A. Adeboye,
God bless us all.

Go back and read Matthew 5 vs 38 - 48 & Luke 6 vs 27 - 36 carefully and then come back and let us know if God is indeed the one blessing your Adeboye with those lies of his.

Kobojunkie:
Go back and read Matthew 5 vs 38 - 48 & Luke 6 vs 27 - 36 carefully and then come back and let us know if God is indeed the one blessing your Adeboye with those lies of his.

Alright sir, thank you.
God bless you.

where is the link of the said video,many of you are just funny brain

mamaafrik:
where is the link of the said video,many of you are just funny brain

Google is your friend, search for the video of the just concluded RCCG monthly program about the time I made this post.

Do well to accord others the same respect you think you deserve as a sane human being. Always remember nobody compel you to their conclusions.

Thanks.

Why this guy no just keep quiet on this one , let the fulani come first to the south and let the see how guns pop up from the swamps like daisies

godofuck231:
Why this guy no just keep quiet on this one , let the fulani come first to the south and let the see how guns pop up from the swamps like daisies

Bro, don't keep quiet on evil. It's evil to keep quiet on evil. It's not the first time foreigners have attacked Yoruba in history.

The Yoruba proverb says bawi, aaku, baawi, aaku. If you like speak, if you like keep quiet, death is inevitable.

If you fear man pass God, good for you. So those who have died were not supposed to, had it been they kept quiet?

It cannot be otherwise. Elisha did exactly that when soldiers were sent to arrest him unjustifiably. God will do that at the end of all things when hell will receive Satan and his ilk into everlasting torment. To say otherwise is inconsistent with the theme of the Bible which is the love of God for man!

zoedew:
It cannot be otherwise. Elisha did exactly that when soldiers were sent to arrest him unjustifiably. God will do that at the end of all things when hell will receive Satan and his ilk into everlasting torment. To say otherwise is inconsistent with the theme of the Bible which is the love of God for man!

So you disregard the direct commandments - Matthew 5 vs 38 - 48 & Luke 6 vs 27 - 36 - given by God Himself in Jesus Christ(the one who you claim to belong) to you warning you against defending yourself when attacked by your enemies simply on basis that you perceive a theme of sorts in your Bible?

Kobojunkie:
So you disregard the direct commandments - Matthew 5 vs 38 - 48 & Luke 6 vs 27 - 36 - given by God Himself in Jesus Christ(the one who you claim to belong) to you warning you against defending yourself when attacked by your enemies simply on basis that you perceive a theme of sorts in your Bible?

It simply cannot be the case that God created man to do nothing in the face of a machete aimed at his neck when he can defend himself. It doesn’t add up!

Kobojunkie:
Go back and read Matthew 5 vs 38 - 48 & Luke 6 vs 27 - 36 carefully and then come back and let us know if God is indeed the one blessing your Adeboye with those lies of his.

And where is the lie concerning self defense? You are just a irresponsible never do well drop out with unfortunate access to the Internet for your own destruction. I will not clarify anything or educate you on what transpired there.

zoedew:

It simply cannot be the case that God created man to do nothing in the face of a machete aimed at his neck when he can defend himself. It doesn’t add up!

Don't mind the herdsman

Kobojunkie,why are you always on the left sides of things?

The same God that is the Prince of peace,the Lamb,Merciful,compassionate etc is still ,LION OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH,THE CONSUMING FIRE!!!

Enough with this your devilish “God’s truth” you’re always pulling out from your ass.

ENOUGH!!!!.

poshestmina:
Kobojunkie,why are you always on the left sides of things?
The same God that is the Prince of peace,the Lamb,Merciful,compassionate etc is still ,LION OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH,THE CONSUMING FIRE!!!
Enough with this your devilish “God’s truth” you’re always pulling out from your ass.
ENOUGH!!!!.

Please stop repeating these soundbites that these pastors and mogs have used in blinding you to that which God demands which is your obedience of His every commandments to you.

Your mog lied by suggesting God never commanded anyone not to defend themselves. Right there in Matthew 5 vs 38 - 48 & Luke 6 vs 27 - 38 the very decrees he denies are detailed as commanded by Jesus Christ of all those who follow Him.

38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.’[i]
39 But I tell you, don’t fight back against someone who wanfs to do harm to you. If they hit you on the right cheek, let them hit the other cheek too.
40 If anyone wants to sue you in court and take your shirt, let them have your coat too.
41 If a soldier forces you to walk with him one mile,[j] go with him two.
42 Give to anyone who asks you for something. Don’t refuse to give to anyone who wants to borrow from you. - Matthew 5 vs 38 - 42

That you believe me on the leftside for stating the Truth of God as evidence against the lie this man feeds you speaks volumes of where exactly your heart is, and it doesn't seem to be on God's side at all at all..

Kewtt:
And where is the lie concerning self defense? You are just a irresponsible never do well drop out with unfortunate access to the Internet for your own destruction. I will not clarify anything or educate you on what transpired there.

38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.’[i]
39 But I tell you, don’t fight back against someone who wanfs to do harm to you. If they hit you on the right cheek, let them hit the other cheek too.
40 If anyone wants to sue you in court and take your shirt, let them have your coat too.
41 If a soldier forces you to walk with him one mile,[j] go with him two.
42 Give to anyone who asks you for something. Don’t refuse to give to anyone who wants to borrow from you. - Matthew 5 vs 38 - 42

You know, choosing to reject that which God commands doesn't nullify His decree. Instead it reveals what is stored up in your heart.

zoedew:

It simply cannot be the case that God created man to do nothing in the face of a machete aimed at his neck when he can defend himself. It doesn’t add up!

Have you never heard it said that God's ways are not the ways of men?.

38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.’[i]
39 But I tell you, don’t fight back against someone who wanfs to do harm to you. If they hit you on the right cheek, let them hit the other cheek too.
40 If anyone wants to sue you in court and take your shirt, let them have your coat too.
41 If a soldier forces you to walk with him one mile,[j] go with him two.
42 Give to anyone who asks you for something. Don’t refuse to give to anyone who wants to borrow from you. - Matthew 5 vs 38 - 42

Kobojunkie:
Have you never heard it said that God's ways are not the ways of men?.

The Bible is correctly interpreted when it is set against the background of God’s love for man. The distinction must be made between revenge or vengeance that obtains in interpersonal relationships and instances of personal attacks that warrants the need to defend oneself. In any event, Baba Adeboye has always said that when he speaks from The Pulpit on such matters he is not addressing www but his children in the faith. How that concerns folks who are not his children calls for some questions. Society may as well not take down marauding armed robbers!

This is funny! So who do Christians follow the MOG or the Bible?

Anyways the options are similar!

zoedew:

The Bible is correctly interpreted when it is set against the background of God’s love for man. The distinction must be made between revenge or vengeance that obtains in interpersonal relationships and instances of personal attacks that warrants the need to defend oneself. In any event, Baba Adeboye has always said that when he speaks from The Pulpit on such matters he is not addressing www but his children in the faith. How that concerns folks who are not his children calls for some questions. Society may as well not take down marauding armed robbers!

Case closed!

There's no reason arguing about what the man is saying if he has said the highlighted first. The Beroeans heard what was preached to them but went back to check it out in the scriptures to be certain of what is being preached to them. Act 17:11

When Jesus of Nazareth said what was recorded in the Bible book of Matthew 5:43-48 he later expatiate further by making his listeners to know why someone may be mounting pressure on you. First of all Satan has filled the minds of majority with thoughts of dominance {Genesis 3:5} everyone wants to dominate his/her fellowman {Ecclesiastes 8:9} but Jesus made it clear to his own disciples that instead of being rulers they should always strive to be subjects {Luke 14:7-11} that's why Jesus' disciples never attempt becoming part of those ruling over others rather they were the lowliest of all men in the first century!

Of course if a man or two men should come to attack your home and you discover that such an attack is not sponsored by politicians then you can find a way to protect yourself and your family, but when it has to do with some people sponsoring such an attack then you have to know the demands of those sending them perhaps it could be met for peaceful coexistence. In all cases organized and planned attacks is the handiwork of politicians who wants to rule over you. So thinking of defense makes no sense because those sending them will continue to send them unless those ruling over your territory maintained their domain by driving away the ones who have come to take over power. Christians are neither on this side or that side when it comes to world politics {John 17:14 compare to John 18:36} Jesus taught his own disciples to pray and look intently at God's Kingdom! Matthew 6:9-10

Today politicians are using different means to seize power from one another and they're using gullible people as fighters to achieve their goal, of course they need to brainwash those fighting for them because nobody will like to be killed for another person to continue living like kings and queens so the brainwashing is necessary. False religion is the strongest tool to brainwash people into becoming zombies who will die for others to rule that's why this killings is attached to religion but the truth is that politicians are behind what is happening in Nigeria.

Now back to what the Baba said. He is not a Christian because Jesus taught his own followers never to acquire material possessions that could hinder them from running away when politicians begin struggling for dominance {Matthew 6:19-28} so if you've acquired so much wealth in this system of things it will be difficult for you to pick few things and flee just as Jesus commanded his own disciples to do whenever politicians are battling for power! Luke 21:20-24

If a Christian can't fight for dominance {Matthew 26:52} and we must not partake in world politics {John 17:14} then we can't accumulate wealth like all other men {Matthew 6:24} otherwise we will ignore Jesus' command and love to keep those material possessions {Matthew 6:24} which has nothing to do with our salvation! Luke 18:18-23

MaxInDHouse:


Case closed!

There's no reason arguing about what the man is saying if he has said the highlighted first. The Beroeans heard what was preached to them but went back to check it out in the scriptures to be certain of what is being preached to them. Act 17:11

When Jesus of Nazareth said what was recorded in the Bible book of Matthew 5:43-48 he later expatiate further by making his listeners to know why someone may be mounting pressure on you. First of all Satan has filled the minds of majority with thoughts of dominance {Genesis 3:5} everyone wants to dominate his/her fellowman {Ecclesiastes 8:9} but Jesus made it clear to his own disciples that instead of being rulers they should always strive to be subjects {Luke 14:7-11} that's why Jesus' disciples never attempt becoming part of those ruling over others rather they were the lowliest of all men in the first century!

Of course if a man or two men should come to attack your home and you discover that such an attack is not sponsored by politicians then you can find a way to protect yourself and your family, but when it has to do with some people sponsoring such an attack then you have to know the demands of those sending them perhaps it could be met for peaceful coexistence. In all cases organized and planned attacks is the handiwork of politicians who wants to rule over you. So thinking of defense makes no sense because those sending them will continue to send them unless those ruling over your territory maintained their domain by driving away the ones who have come to take over power. Christians are neither on this side or that side when it comes to world politics {John 17:14 compare to John 18:36} Jesus taught his own disciples to pray and look intently at God's Kingdom! Matthew 6:9-10

Today politicians are using different means to seize power from one another and they're using gullible people as fighters to achieve their goal, of course they need to brainwash those fighting for them because nobody will like to be killed for another person to continue living like kings and queens so the brainwashing is necessary. False religion is the strongest tool to brainwash people into becoming zombies who will die for others to rule that's why this killings is attached to religion but the truth is that politicians are behind what is happening in Nigeria.

Now back to what the Baba said. He is not a Christian because Jesus taught his own followers never to acquire material possessions that could hinder them from running away when politicians begin struggling for dominance {Matthew 6:19-28} so if you've acquired so much wealth in this system of things it will be difficult for you to pick few things and flee just as Jesus commanded his own disciples to do whenever politicians are battling for power! Luke 21:20-24

If a Christian can't fight for dominance {Matthew 26:52} and we must not partake in world politics {John 17:14} then we can't accumulate wealth like all other men {Matthew 6:24} otherwise we will ignore Jesus' command and love to keep those material possessions {Matthew 6:24} which has nothing to do with our salvation! Luke 18:18-23

Reading you one must wonder who owns the device with which you are communicating with www. It is a “worldly possession” for sure!

zoedew:

Reading you one must wonder who owns the device with which you are communicating with www. It is a “worldly possession” for sure!

Do you think the pocket size device can hinder me from leaving the premises where politicians are fighting for?

Kobojunkie:
Please stop repeating these soundbites that these pastors and mogs have used in blinding you to that which God demands which is your obedience of His every commandments to you.

Your mog lied by suggesting God never commanded anyone not to defend themselves. Right there in Matthew 5 vs 38 - 48 & Luke 6 vs 27 - 38 the very decrees he denies are detailed as commanded by Jesus Christ of all those who follow Him.

That you believe me on the leftside for stating the Truth of God as evidence against the lie this man feeds you speaks volumes of where exactly your heart is, and it doesn't seem to be on God's side at all at all..

one quick question, who's now the real pastor since you've condemned all of the others ??

History of the Holy Land gives us the men of God that has been. One of them was Moses: why did he not fight with Pharaoh to deliver his people? Did he always know what was ahead of him?

And why did he instructs the Israelites to possess the promised Land with the edge of the sword? Why commission Joshua to do the same? So, the God of Israel is not restricted to a strategy.

A time calls for how it's dealt with

The greatest gathering of the Christian in the southwest is the RCCG. That places enormous responsibility as much on the leader of the church in this critical time hard to deal with.

In critical times, God will use men to accomplish His will. They will deal critically with the critical time hard to deal with. Would they take critical decisions? You bet.

Those who want God to speak to them on the way forward from the Bible have their answers already. Genesis to revelation apply. He's the God who "rules" in the affairs of men. That rulership continues infinite.

The Bible created Islam indirectly, and the fate of Turkey (Byzantium) is already at the door. Therefore, "Islamizing Christians" will tell you to do nothing to defend yourself when the Arab Emirates are at your door.

With that, you can be a walkover. That's the Bible passing you to Arab faith. Haven't the Bible passed our people as slaves in the past centuries? It's the Bible chronological claims that the enslavers used.

"I am the true shepherds", one has given his life, is your life next, so you can satisfy the Messiah? Christian against Christians led to the discovery of the new world. It means people have taken steps in the past to protect and defend themselves and ward off evil.

Indeed the hirelings are wolf in sheep's clothing. They are trying to be correct and make the cautious mog wrong. They speak down on others as their conclusions is final.

They've no congregation and no responsibility is laid upon them than their "righteousness". If you follow these lot, you will go into captivity and come back a different person and still blame yourself for doing nothing when you should have.

And these hirelings will still make disciples from whoever remains. But then you will wonder where they truly belongs. If however the people defend themselves, this lot will still blame you for defending yourself and not dying. Will they?

Christ said some of the people listening to him will not be dead until the kingdom of God comes, now where are those people? Does that mean the kingdom of God has passed?

They don't question this mystery, but self defense before evil lot is to them the ultimate crime. Even so, Christ is coming to judge the world, are we created as victim of the wicked world or it's a mistake to be a Christian?

"Be of good cheers, for I have conquered the world". As Christians, avoid going into captivity for Christ sake. This Jehovah witness people are secured in America, don't buy everything you are told to do by them.

The ministry of the Holy Spirit is not a precept that has already been written down in books, so that nobody will preempt God.

absoluteSuccess:

"Be of good cheers, for I have conquered the world". As Christians, avoid going into captivity for Christ sake. This Jehovah witness people are secured in America, don't buy everything you are told to do by them.

Do you know why America is the safest place on this planet as far as religious terrorism is concerned?

Well that's where FREEDOM OF SPEECH EXPRESSION, WORSHIP and ASSOCIATION was declared, no matter what religion you practice even Witchcraft America is a place where you are free to express yourself.

So if your religion has been condemning other religions through your street noisemaking and you weren't cautioned {Matthew 12:19} then be prepared to face the same thing from those who will pay you back in your own coin but harder than yours! Matthew 7:12

For your information JWs can live anywhere without having issues with any other religion because they will set their rules and we will abide by whatever rules they set, so that we can continue our ministry without interfering with their rules. But it's you people that's giving us hard times because you people want to drag worldly political seats with them so they're fighting back unfortunately they don't know that we are different from you people but in Islamic states where they know we are different JWs practice our religion without being attacked by islamists because we are ready to abide by their rules!

zoedew:
1. The Bible is correctly interpreted when it is set against the background of God’s love for man. The distinction must be made between revenge or vengeance that obtains in interpersonal relationships and instances of personal attacks that warrants the need to defend oneself.

2. In any event, Baba Adeboye has always said that when he speaks from The Pulpit on such matters he is not addressing www but his children in the faith. How that concerns folks who are not his children calls for some questions. Society may as well not take down marauding armed robbers!

1. Wow... you words are reminiscent of one who doesn't care at all what God has to say on pretty much anything, yet pretends God matters.

2. So in otherwords, your Adeboye is one of the wolves in sheep's clothing that Jesus Christ so aptly described and warned His Sheep to steer clear of?

lasisi69:
one quick question, who's now the real pastor since you've condemned all of the others ??

Did Jesus Christ ever send you or anyone else chasing after Pastors and mogs in His name to begin with?

Instead Jesus Christ warned you against these men, all of them false teachers and false prophets, who will come teachings and decieving you with lies, all the while using His Name, pretending they know Him when they don't because those who know Him will only speak His Truth to you in His Name.

You have the same bible which these your mogs claim to read to you from so why do you allow them lie and decieve you using God's Name when you can easily crosscheck the truth or lack of their claims to you?

absoluteSuccess:
1. History of the Holy Land gives us the men of God that has been. One of them was Moses: why did he not fight with Pharaoh to deliver his people? Did he always know what was ahead of him?

2. And why did he instructs the Israelites to possess the promised Land with the edge of the sword? Why commission Joshua to do the same? So, the God of Israel is not restricted to a strategy......

1. God's Constitution aka the Law of Moses which God gave to the People of Israel- those who have the blood of Jacob coursing through their veins - for a National Constitution in the Land of Canaan, has absolutely nothing to do with you a gentile living in a foreign land, this since God Himself excluded you from that agreement - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20. So let's stop bringing Israel's name up whenever it concerns that which God commands of us as Christians.

God's agreement/Covenant to us Gentiles(jews included) is Jesus Christ and this Law applies to all those who belong in the Kingdom of God, the Kingdom ruled by Him. Included in the Law, God's
very own Truth aka Gospel that is Jesus Christ is about 100 commandments which all those who claim Him as savior are required to live in continuous submission and obedience to, this by Jesus Christ - John 14 vs 15 - 25 & John 15 vs 14 - standing faithful (in continuous submission and obedience) until the end in order to be saved by Him, Jesus Christ- Matthew 24 vs 13

2. So, when you ignore that which God has infact demanded of you in His agreement with you, to consult the agreement which He made with another, not only do you sin against God but you insult Him too.

Kobojunkie:
Did Jesus Christ ever send you or anyone else chasing after Pastors and mogs in His name to begin with?

Instead Jesus Christ warned you against these men, all of them false teachers and false prophets, who will come teachings and decieving you with lies, all the while using His Name, pretending they know Him when they don't because those who know Him will only speak His Truth to you in His Name.

You have the same bible which these your mogs claim to read to you from so why do you allow them lie and decieve you using God's Name when you can easily crosscheck the truth or lack of their claims to you?

I asked a simple question

lasisi69:
I asked a simple question

And I made certain to fully approach your question.

zoedew:

The Bible is correctly interpreted when it is set against the background of God’s love for man. The distinction must be made between revenge or vengeance that obtains in interpersonal relationships and instances of personal attacks that warrants the need to defend oneself. In any event, Baba Adeboye has always said that when he speaks from The Pulpit on such matters he is not addressing www but his children in the faith. How that concerns folks who are not his children calls for some questions. Society may as well not take down marauding armed robbers!

When the Jews were attacking Christians and killing them I wonder why the Christians didn't band together to defend themselves. I wonder what "our weapons of warfare are not carnal...) means. People always prefer listening to "men of God" than to God Himself.

zoedew:

The Bible is correctly interpreted when it is set against the background of God’s love for man. The distinction must be made between revenge or vengeance that obtains in interpersonal relationships and instances of personal attacks that warrants the need to defend oneself. In any event, Baba Adeboye has always said that when he speaks from The Pulpit on such matters he is not addressing www but his children in the faith. How that concerns folks who are not his children calls for some questions. Society may as well not take down marauding armed robbers!

Maybe because he does such addresses as a Christian leader, and there are Christians that take exception to scriptural manipulation/misinterpretation?

HedwigesMaduro:


Maybe because he does such addresses as a Christian leader, and there are Christians that take exception to scriptural manipulation/misinterpretation?

One who is not your shepherd cannot mislead you.