Let us not also forget,
Thou shall not steal, thou shall not murder, thou shall not commit adultery etc are also part of the old testament.
So if we should do away with tithing because it was part of the old testament law, so we should do away with the the law against stealing and the rest.
This is the dilemma of those without sound biblical knowledge.

What does paul mean that christ abolished the law?
Ephesians 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

Note that the law of commandments included both the moral law and the ceremonial law which includes tithing.

One has to read the scriptures in context to understand it.

The context in which Paul is speaking is salvation.

We do not have to keep any law at all to be saved that is because God abolish the law as a means for justification through the death of Jesus, so we just have to believe in Jesus christ as our saviourand his death for the penalty of our sins.

However, when saved we live through the law of the Spirit which is faith and love.

Meaning that whatever we do after salvation should be motivated by faith and love.

The things we do are things that are driven by faith and love.
By this way we establish the law.
We do not go against the law by establish it.

In other words the law was removed for us to be saved and after we are saved we are govern by the law of the Spirit.
Now the law of the Spirit actually establishes the law through us.
What do I mean? Thou shall not murder we is fulfilled because we love our fellow men.
Thou shall not commit adultery is fulfilled because we of love for our neighbors.
We flee from fornication because we love God and acknowledge our bodies as the temple of his spirit in other Word because God's spirit lives in our body we flee from fornication.

What of tithing? Should we tithe, this law is subject to individual local church, a church might not have tithing as their doctrine, but however some church has it as their doctrine because tithing help to support the church, missionaries therefore tithing is good and out of love, so we tithe.
Our intention for giving matters more to God than our giving.
As Christians we should support the church of God. If tithing do it, if it is first fruit do it, if it is harvest, anniversary, sowing do it cheerfully.
People who grumble and murmur at when it comes to giving to the church do so out of evil heart.

One of the signs of a true Christian is the love of the church (fellow christian).

1 John 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

Note "the brethren, brother" means fellow Christians.

1 John 3:14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.

Tithes are part of the callings and removing it means only but few will be called ...

Creflo Dollar don scatter the table

Kill your neighbor and tell police that Christ had abolished the law so therefore you have right and license to kill

Steep:
Let us not also forget,
Thou shall not steal, thou shall not murder, thou shall not commit adultery etc are also part of the old testament.
So if we should do away with tithing because it was part of the old testament law, so we should do away with the the law against stealing and the rest.
This is the dilemma of those without sound biblical knowledge.

What does paul mean that christ abolished the law?
Ephesians 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

Note that the law of commandments included both the moral law and the ceremonial law which includes tithing.

Jesus Christ never abolished the Old Covenant Law. He had no power given to Him by God to undo that which God had set in motion - an eternal Covenant.

What you know as the Law of Moses is in fact the National Constitution of the State of Israel given by God to the people of Israel from whom He constituted the Nation of Israel from, this in the Land of Canaan.

So stating that Jesus Christ abolished the Old Covenant amounts amounts to proclaiming that the God no longer recognizes Israel as a Nation or a people. This goes against not only God's Old Law, the Prophets but also Jesus Christ, the Messiah who is promised to return to reign over Israel during the Millennial reign and so on.

You want make Naija Pastor attack you as them attack Daddy Freeze

Moh247:
You want make Naija Pastor attack you as them attack Daddy Freeze

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Steep:

What does paul meant that christ abolished the law?
Ephesians 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

What was abolished is "the enemyness of man and The Law" not The Law! That is what Lawyers would tell you, of which Paul is one of us.

Therefore, The Law is now a Friend and not our Enemy! That is what that scripture means!

If we want to TEACH you people will not accept but let me assure you that Paul meant what he said by "Christ is the end of the law" Romans 10:4

If any of you wish to know the wisdom in this i will do what Jesus commanded us:

TEACHING them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things! Matthew 28:20

BewareOf419:
Kill your neighbor and tell police that Christ had abolished the law so therefore you have right and license to kill

The Law of Moses is the Constitution of the State of Israel in the Land of Canaan. So, Jesus Christ never taught His followers to live under that Law to begin with.
Instead He gave them a New Covenant and Law - complete with about 100 commandments - which is referred to as the Gospel of the Kingdom of God..

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Kobojunkie:
The Law of Moses is the Constitution of the State of Israel in the Land of Canaan. So, Jesus Christ never taught His followers to live under that Law to begin with.
Instead He gave them a New Covenant and Law - complete with about 100 commandments - which is referred to as the Gospel of the Kingdom of God..

Underlined is nothing but the truth!

The Mosaic laws only applies to the nation of Israel that's why Jesus first subjected himself to those laws since he himself is still living under the Mosaic laws until God chose another nation at Pentecost.

After God chose the spiritual nation of born again Christians it's the teachings of Christ that became their laws so our laws aren't that of any nation! John 4:23-24

That's the truth!

Moh247:
You want make Naija Pastor attack you as them attack Daddy Freeze

Op made a case in support of tithing.

Jesus Christ didn't abolish the Law, he fulfilled and amended the Law. This means that not all the laws in the Old testaments were abolished. When Jesus was on earth, He supervised and collect offerings(New Testament). The Jews, Pharisees and Sadducees paid tithe(New Testament).

Truvelisback:
1. Jesus Christ didn't abolish the Law, he fulfilled and amended the Law. This means that not all the laws in the Old testaments were abolished.

2. When Jesus was on earth, He supervised and collect offerings(New Testament). The Jews, Pharisees and Sadducees paid tithe(New Testament).

So what you are insinuating is that Jesus Christ lied in Matthew 5 vs 15 - 17 even when He declared that Heaven and Earth will pass away but not a jot of God's Law and Word will pass away?

2. Jesus Christ lived His life in submission and obedience of God's Old Covenant Law while He was on earth this as He gave a New Law to His own followers. So are you suggesting His followers are instead to live by the Old Law because He did that?

MaxInDHouse:
If we want to TEACH you people will not accept but let me assure you that Paul meant what he said by "Christ is the end of the law" Romans 10:4

Meaning "Christ is the Destination of The Law"!

That is what it means in the language of Law. And Paul is a Lawyer, so that is what he was saying.

Truvelisback:
Jesus Christ didn't abolish the Law, he fulfilled and amended the Law. This means that not all the laws in the Old testaments were abolished. When Jesus was on earth, He supervised and collect offerings(New Testament). The Jews, Pharisees and Sadducees paid tithe(New Testament).

You are talking rubbish. When God amends any Law, He Clearly Expresses The Law exhibiting the Amendment eg Genesis 1:29/30 Amended in Genesis 9:2/3

No such process took place in what you people wrongly call new testament.

MaxInDHouse:


Underlined is nothing but the truth!

The Mosaic laws only applies to the nation of Israel that's why Jesus first subjected himself to those laws since he himself is still living under the Mosaic laws until God chose another nation at Pentecost.

After God chose the spiritual nation of born again Christians it's the teachings of Christ that became their laws so our laws aren't that of any nation! John 4:23-24

That's the truth!

Talking Rubbish! Romans 3:1/2 answers you.

What advantage then hath the Jew? ...

2 Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the ORACLES OF God.

Deuteronomy 32:1
"Give ear, ...; and hear, O earth, The Words of My Mouth"

But now you tell the world not to hear What The Lord hath Spoken! And you say are not satan!

Do you not herein in prove that Truth with your lying that you are not Satan?

Dtruthspeaker:

Talking Rubbish! Romans 3:1/2 answers you.
What advantage then hath the Jew? ...
2 Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the ORACLES OF God.
Deuteronomy 32:1
"Give ear, ...; and hear, O earth, The Words of My Mouth"
But now you tell the world not to hear What The Lord hath Spoken! And you say are not satan!
Do you not herein in prove that Truth with your lying that you are not Satan?

The God in question specifically stated in His words that the laws He gave Moses seals the COVENANT between Him and that Nation:

Then Moses went up to God, and the LORD called to him from the mountain and said, "This is what you are to say to the descendants of Jacob and what you are to tell the people of Israel: ’You yourselves have seen what I did to Egypt, and how I carried you on eagles’ wings and brought you to myself. Now if you obey me fully and keep my covenant, then out of all nations you will be my treasured possession. Although the whole earth is mine, you will be for me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.’ These are the words you are to speak to the Israelites." Exodus 19:3-6

According to what He said that covenant will be the prerequisite for what He promised their father Abraham which is salvation of all the tribes of the earth {Genesis 12:1-3} Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Joseph never knew all what this God gave Moses as laws that's the more reason the Israelites kept turning away from those laws because none of their ancestors lived by these laws!

So those laws are to guide them until the Messiah (Christ) comes to establish the EVERLASTING COVENANT through which all obedient mankind will be SAVED! Jeremiah 31:31

On this planet today there is no nation even among the Jews that's fully practicing what is found written in those laws!
WHY?
Because it's not what God meant to use to save mankind it was just like a mirror for that nation to see why we need a saviour humans are doomed due to sin mankind needs a cleanser that's the purpose God gave the Israelites those laws it wasn't meant for the whole world but to enlighten the descendants of Abraham what lies ahead which is the assignment of going to teach all nations how to be saved.
And now that the cleanser has come nobody needs those laws again, what we all need now is CHRIST for our SALVATION not those laws! Galatians 3:23-25

I know this will shock most of you who enslaves your fellowman under the disguise of Mosaic laws to collect TITHES from them {Matthew 23:23-24} but i'm sorry we just have to face the TRUTH! John 8:32

MaxInDHouse:

The God in question specifically stated in His words that the laws He gave Moses seals the COVENANT between Him and that Nation:...

You have completely departed from the issue and gone elsewhere in proof that you have no thing!

No wahala please allow those who has ears listen to the TRUTH for their salvation in CHRIST Jesus not in the Mosaic laws! Romans 10:4

Dtruthspeaker:

You have completely departed from the issue and gone elsewhere in proof that you have no thing!

MaxInDHouse:
No wahala please allow those who has ears listen to the TRUTH for their salvation in CHRIST Jesus not in the Mosaic laws! Romans 10:4

Even Christ Jesus, Clearly Said

Mathew 19:17
"If thou wilt enter into Life, KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS!

See how you disgrace yourself!

"A fool's mouth is his destruction,"

Dtruthspeaker:

Even Christ Jesus, Clearly Said
Mathew 19:17
"If thou wilt enter into Life, KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS!
See how you disgrace yourself!
"A fool's mouth is his destruction,"

Funny Churchgoer!

And what did you know about the LAWS (COMMANDMENTS) of the CHRIST? Galatians 6:2

MaxInDHouse:


Funny Churchgoer!

And what did you know about the LAWS (COMMANDMENTS) of the CHRIST? Galatians 6:2

I have already borne the burden of overtaking your death causing error and pointing out same as The Law hath commanded.

Dtruthspeaker:

I have already borne the burden of overtaking your death causing error and pointing out same as The Law hath commanded.

Commanded what?
You just like quoting me when you have no knowledge whatsoever to decipher the TRUTH of God's word.

Christ's laws totally differs from the Mosaic laws that's why the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob forewarned the Israelites to be aware of the mission of the Christ whose laws will not be the same as what they heard from Moses! Deuteronomy 18:18-19

Note that God never promised anyone salvation through the Mosaic laws but in Christ Jesus salvation is CERTAIN! John 3:16

Dtruthspeaker:

Meaning "Christ is the Destination of The Law"!
That is what it means in the language of Law. And Paul is a Lawyer, so that is what he was saying.

So after reaching your DESTINATION do you mount your horse and start going back through the journey again? Galatians 3:23-25

Kobojunkie:
So what you are insinuating is that Jesus Christ lied in Matthew 5 vs 15 - 17 even when He declared that Heaven and Earth will pass away but not a jot of God's Law and Word will pass away?

2. Jesus Christ lived His life in submission and obedience of God's Old Covenant Law while He was on earth this as He gave a New Law to His own followers. So are you suggesting His followers are instead to live by the Old Law because He did that?

If Jesus lived His life in obedience of God's old Covenant Law, He would have approved the stoning to death of the woman caught in adultery act. The Old Covenant Law stated that anyone caught in the very act should be stoned to death. MaxinDhouse.

Truvelisback:
If Jesus lived lived His life in obedience of God's old Covenant Law, He would have approved the stoning to death of the woman caught in adultery act. The Old Covenant Law stated that anyone caught in the very act should be stoned to death.

Jesus never disapprove the stoning, what he said is such stoning should be carried out by those without sin (angels) that's why he always emphasize that his own law enforcement agents aren't humans! John 18:36

So Jesus is indirectly telling us that all of us (imperfect sinful humans) supposed to be stoned to death {Romans 3:23; 5:12} therefore instead of pelting our fellow sinner to death with stones we supposed to be sober and look for ways to help our neighbour who needs help to regain his stand with God instead of ending his/her life.

May you have PEACE!

MaxInDHouse:


Jesus never disapprove the stoning, what he said is such stoning should be carried out by those without sin (angels) that's why he always emphasize that his own law enforcement agents aren't humans! John 18:36

So Jesus is indirectly telling us that all of us (imperfect sinful humans) supposed to be stoned to death {Romans 3:23; 5:12} therefore instead of pelting our fellow sinner to death with stones we supposed to be sober and look for ways to help our neighbour who needs help to regain his stand with God instead of ending his/her life.

May you have PEACE!

Stop decieving urself. U are now using the New Testament Law to defend urself. Jesus didn't act on the law, otherwise, he acted on grace. By the Old testament law, the woman should be stoned to death.

Truvelisback:
Stop decieving urself. U are now using the New Testament Law to defend urself. Jesus didn't act on the law, otherwise, he acted on grace. By the Old testament law, the woman should be stoned to death.

You're missing what Jesus taught Sir!

According to the law no single person can commit adultery without a partner in crime so those people are hypocrites, the law never asked them to stone only the female but both sinners. Leviticus 20:11
So Jesus is indirectly telling them that one of them if not two or three must have been with this same woman in the past and they should also have been stoned to death.
OK if they're denying that they've not been with her before, where is the accomplice?
Or did the woman singlehandedly committed adultery?

MaxInDHouse:


So after reaching your DESTINATION do you mount your horse and start going back through the journey again? Galatians 3:23-25

Always going off point and off issue when you have no thing to say even when it is known that like ludo pieces we are trying to get home to Christ and Christ is the Destination.

But here you are trying to move the post again exactly as Satan does!

Dtruthspeaker:


Always going off point and off issue when you have no thing to say even when it is known that like ludo pieces we are trying to get home to Christ and Christ is the Destination.

But here you are trying to move the post again exactly as Satan does!

You know what? Just stop quoting me because your brains that's cloned with churchy deceit can't grasp what i'm saying.

I only follow your logic which proves that you don't know what you're saying!

Nobody mounts his horse and start traveling through all the rigorous journey again after reaching a happy destination!

MaxInDHouse:


Commanded what?

Ezekiel 33:7-12

MaxInDHouse:

Christ's laws totally differs from the Mosaic laws that's why the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob forewarned the Israelites to be aware of the mission of the Christ whose laws will not be the same as what they heard from Moses! Deuteronomy 18:18-19

Again, you show you are Satan by your Lie and Deceit for it is not written in Deuteronomy 18:18 "whose laws will not be the same as what they heard from Moses!" as you have added to the Bible.

Thou shalt perish in the fire with Satan!