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Re: Muslim-Muslim Ticket: Northern Govs Greek gift to Tinubu - Babachir Lawal by syntekelite(m): 11:02am On Jul 13, 2022 |
Throwback: All you have written though makes sense is not the main issue..cos as you said tinubu has been planning for decades..so in that decade there is no northern christian good enough..people like you miss the most salient point which is the muslim vp in question..the guy is notoriously known to be a fanatic and terrorist sympathiser,also he is good at sabotaging when things dont go his way,in saner climes shettima wld be in guatanamo bay.. if you talk of competence borno is one of the most impoverished state and also the home of terror.. people are voting tinubu not the vp,the only people who need the vp are the fanatical fulani oligarchy, and tinubu listening to them shows he wont be in control of nigeria..hence his bloc votes which were assured before picking shettima have been halved by that blunder.. |
Re: Muslim-Muslim Ticket: Northern Govs Greek gift to Tinubu - Babachir Lawal by Electorate: 11:13am On Jul 13, 2022 |
Throwback: If you are Muslim i expect nothing less from your opinion but if you are a Christian then you are a descendant of Judas Iscariot for refusing to stand up for your faith that the Muslims are toying with...They are making your Faith irrelevant and you are here supporting them with useless grammar. If Tinubu is the right choice you won't try so hard to make him look like a saint he is not, The North will vote for their son Atiku while it no brainer that Peter Obi will win SE and SS, Yoruba Christians in the SW won't vote for Tinubu neither the Christians up North... leaving Tinubu with just a few Yoruba Muslims. As it is, Tinubu will not only waste his money and resources, he will Labor in vain and be properly disgraced come 2023. Nigerians are wiser now because Buhari taught them a lesson they won't forget in a hurry. Typing from the Zoo.
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Re: Muslim-Muslim Ticket: Northern Govs Greek gift to Tinubu - Babachir Lawal by EfonAlaaye2023(m): 11:16am On Jul 13, 2022 |
all these noisemakers sef, Tinubu with Northern Christian candidate, Atiku would have been writing his presidential speech by now as a Christian from south, I would have been consoling Tinubu down of political loss if he picked northern minority Christain, Igbo felt Tinubu won't win this election because they felt he has no other choice than to pick Christian as VP but baba surprise them in few weeks time, all these Muslim Muslims and Christain Christian rubbish talk will stop, then boys will be separated from men |
Re: Muslim-Muslim Ticket: Northern Govs Greek gift to Tinubu - Babachir Lawal by wandyvirus(m): 11:18am On Jul 13, 2022 |
Emotionally intelligent you say? You sure do not know the meaning of that word. A man faced the biggest fear of his political career (religion) and decided against the pressure. Show me a man that has his emotions I. Check and I'll point to BAT. I am all for competency and merit. If they win, it will forever change politics in Nigeria. Moblux: |
Re: Muslim-Muslim Ticket: Northern Govs Greek gift to Tinubu - Babachir Lawal by Sunday2021: 11:21am On Jul 13, 2022 |
Throwback:how popular is shetima? Is shettima more popular than Lalong? Is he popular than Dogara? You are not a Christian. If really you are a Christian, you should just thank God you are not in my state. We are going to be more fanatic than the Muslims fanatics. Anybody that vote for apc in my ward,we will burn down his house, we are going to the extreme this time around. |
Re: Muslim-Muslim Ticket: Northern Govs Greek gift to Tinubu - Babachir Lawal by olaoye2008: 11:22am On Jul 13, 2022 |
I am beginning to love this Game. Let us watch the outcome of this. Some people will later swallow all this blunders. J A G A B A N O N T H E M O V E |
Re: Muslim-Muslim Ticket: Northern Govs Greek gift to Tinubu - Babachir Lawal by GreyLaw(m): 11:23am On Jul 13, 2022 |
Danwakae: Aminu Tambuwal isn't he Fulani? I lived in Sojoto for a while and know there are different tribes there, but I used to take him as Fulani. |
Re: Muslim-Muslim Ticket: Northern Govs Greek gift to Tinubu - Babachir Lawal by Sunday2021: 11:33am On Jul 13, 2022 |
LegendHero:they don't even vote apc? Lalong was voted twice,Otom was voted in benue, many apc senators were voted by northern Christians. The mistake you are making is that you fail to understand that Tinubu has offended all the Christians of this country. Mr Man, we shall see if the votes of only Muslims will make tinubu the president. Mind you, the Muslims votes will be divided between Atiku, Kwakwonso and Tinubu. We shall see. |
Re: Muslim-Muslim Ticket: Northern Govs Greek gift to Tinubu - Babachir Lawal by Newton2024: 11:49am On Jul 13, 2022 |
[s] ATLIEN2027:[/s] “An Islamization Agenda” – Babachir Lawal Hammers Tinubu, Fingers Ganduje Former Secretary General to the Federation, Babachir Lawal has reacted to the ‘Muslim-Muslim’ Ticket being floated by the All Progressives Congress, APC. POLITICS NIGERIA recalls that the 2023 flagbearer of the All Progressives Congress, Bola Ahmed Tinubu announced Ex-Borno Governor, Kashim Shettima, also a Muslim as his running mate last weekend. The news has generated massive outrage amongst Nigerians with many condemning the move. Lawal, in an Op-ed made available to this newspaper disclosed that the development was ‘proof’ of an Islamization Agenda. Read Below; I thought I will be able to avoid commenting on the disastrous error by my very good friend, Sen Bola Ahmed Tinubu, in his choice of a running mate. I will be the very last person to stand in the way of my very good friend Tinubu’s path to the presidency. This is because, since 2011, my consuming passion has been for him to succeed Buhari as President of Nigeria. It will not be true if I say that I did not see it coming. I have often read his body language, picked up snippets from several discussions with his lapdogs (some of whom, sadly, are Christians but most of whom are Muslims), and I have conveyed my reservations to them against the pitfalls of a Muslim-Muslim ticket towards which I sensed they were drifting. As part of my obligation to him, a close friend, I had on many occasions argued the merits and demerits of both ticket permutations to him. I have done so in both verbal and written form, and I have likewise done so with some of his close respectable associates and friends. In all instances I had left him with the sole responsibility for his final decision arguing that in the end the consequences of the outcome of any bad decision would be his to bear. There might be some collateral damages, though. I have also, on several occasions, passed on to him counsel and messages from some well-meaning Nigerians intended to alert him on the possible outcomes of the presidential ticket permutations. Tinubu is a very good man. He is a great listener. He has a very humble and friendly disposition to everyone. He is very generous in both cash and kind, especially where it could advance his political interests. But I have realised that it is in the nature of power that sycophants and lapdogs have the most influence on leaders with such character traits. They will lie to him, malign and disparage others and generally do anything to curry his favour and also put well-meaning associates in a bad light. I suspect this is what has happened to my friend. He has been cornered by self-serving, hero-worshipping lapdogs. It never used to be like this. While in his hay-days in Lagos, he surrounded himself with smart, street-wise guys that could tell truth to power. He had Rauf Aregbesola, Yemi Osinbajo, Babatunde Fashola, Dele Alake, Muiz Banire, etc. The Lagos days were the days of think-tanks, strategic planning, monitoring and evaluation, principles and ideologies. But these people have since grown-up and moved up to establish their own systems, leaving my friend stranded. Nature, they say, abhours a vacuum. Welcome the Abuja equivalent. But the Abuja equivalent are people inflicted with the modern Nigerian diseases – religious bigotry, sycophancy and morbid tribalism. They are mostly political jobbers who are most times not averse to the application of diabolical means. Gone are the days of think-tanks and strategic planning. Gone are the days of principles and ideologies. Try and call a meeting; they will not attend. Try and make a plan they will sabotage it. Everything is ad-hoc; everything is chaotic because they excel in such environments. The result is that they have played on his long-term ambition to be president and have built it into a sort of desperation and a crescendo that easily justifies this satanic resort to a Muslim-Muslim ticket. This is the calamity that has befallen my friend. And why Kashim Shetima? He is an overambitious man who has a Machiavellian bent and has lots of money with which to procure a preferred-candidate status among Tinubu’s lapdogs. And as we are beginning to see, to also procure bogus supporters, especially from among the Christian community, to help launder his not-so-good image. But as a popular proverb goes: “Those whom the gods want to destroy they first make mad”. It appears that the gods want to destroy the APC and its presidential candidate and have chosen the instrumentality of the northern Moslem governors and their super ambitious tool and Kashim Shettima for this purpose. Alhaji Kashim Shetima is a Greek gift from the Northern governors to Tinubu. I advise Bola to make sure Kashim’s two hands are always in plain sight and empty. True, based on the advice of his new friends, Bola Ahmed Tinubu has made his choice. And I am sure he thinks he is ready for the outcome of that choice. He has chosen to bring religion to the front burner of Nigerian politics. And being a Muslim, he has chosen to take sides with his own religion. For all he cares, Christians can go to blazes with their votes. But he must also be told that there will consequences for this choice. Some of them are that Christians all over the country will revolt against the APC to put the chances of his election in serious jeopardy. It will also put the election of all Christians standing for elections in Christian-dominated areas in jeopardy. This could result in APC being a minority party in both the National and State Houses of Assembly. Now tell me which Christian will vote for APC with the following contraption: Moslem Presidential Candidate (Lagos), Moslem Vice Presidential Candidate (Borno), Moslem National Chairman (Nasarawa), Moslem Deputy National Chairman (Borno), Moslem President (Katsina); Moslem Senate President (Yobe); Moslem Speaker (Lagos); Moslem Deputy Speaker (Plateau) e.t.c. APC the great! Wu na de try woh! The northern governors and some northern Moslem elites must have persuaded him that they would never vote for a ticket that has a northern Christian on it. And he has agreed with them. But if he thinks a Moslem-Moslem ticket will win him the northern Muslim votes, he should have a rethink. They will massively vote for one of their sons because it is in their nature to do so. Buhari, their first son, will not be on the ballot in 2023. Atiku their second son will be. Proof of a possible Islamic agenda was leaked when Governor Ganduje, the “Kadmul Islam”, gave advance notice that Tinubu had assured them he would nominate a Moslem as his running mate. For those who might not know, Governor Ganduje has a foundation called “Ganduje Foundation” which purpose according to its website is to “provide selfless service to humanity and Islam” but whose primary purpose it appears is the conversion of Christians to Islam. So if my very good friend Tinubu, in a desperate bid to become president, allows himself to be made into a religious bigot or even a mujahideen, he is welcome. But it is a risk that will not play out positively for his presidential bid. But, were he to win and become President of Nigeria, it would be as a sectional president, an Islamic president, and he will surely face massive discontent and opposition even before taking off. Expecting Nigerians to ignore this crass insensitivity to the country’s diversity amounts to acceding to the perpetration of very grave injustice and discrimination against a huge segment of the society. No one who seeks to be president of Nigeria should ever deploy the tool of religious extremism and exclusivism as a tool to win elections. This is very, very dangerous. And this is very sad. But, baring any last-minute change of mind, Bola has made his choice. He should be bluntly told that in this choice, Nigerian Christians clearly see a pending Islamic Republic of Nigeria in its infancy and are right to be severely anxious. There has been gloom among the Christian community all over the country since Tinubu announced Kashim Shetima as his running mate. Are the generality of the Muslim ummah happy with this? The answer is a resounding NO. How then do we respond? The decision as to how to respond to this deliberately senseless act of provocation is both corporate to each religious group and also personal to each voter that loves peace, and hates injustice. Christians want to continue to live peacefully with their Muslim neighbours at home, at school, and at the workplace. In the markets and on the streets as we have always done or desired to do. And I am sure Moslems share this view too. No one person’s ambition to rule over us should be allowed to set us apart and at war with one another. Bola Ahmed Tinubu, should be compelled by whoever can do so to rescind this decision. President Mohammed Buhari should exercise his powers as the Commander-in-Chief and as the APC Leader to revoke this nomination of a VP by Tinubu. The APC National Chairman should refuse to sign the nomination forms if not rescinded. There is a story in the bible on how some people responded to similar provocation: “And when all Israel saw that the king did not listen to them, the people answered the king, “What portion do we have in David? We have no inheritance in the son of Jesse. To your tents, O Israel! Look now to your own house, David.” So Israel went to their tents” (1 Kings 12:16). I would love for Bola to be our next President. But I am afraid a Moslem-Moslem ticket will be “Dead on Arrival”. And the arrival date according to INEC’s election timetable is 25th February 2023. This ticket will drag down the whole APC members to the pit. We all should reject it. |
Re: Muslim-Muslim Ticket: Northern Govs Greek gift to Tinubu - Babachir Lawal by LegendHero(m): 11:52am On Jul 13, 2022 |
Sunday2021: Good. Then let the people of Plateau vote another Fulani in Atiku. I wish them best of luck especially when they see that even a Pastor Osinbajo as VP could not improve their security and peace. Even if your argument will be that they will vote Peter Obi, you and I know that’s impossible because the structure in the state would tilt more to PDP. Lastly, What if Kwakwanso step down for Tinubu? You think it’s impossible? One thing I’ve learnt is never to underrate Tinubu negotiating might. |
Re: Muslim-Muslim Ticket: Northern Govs Greek gift to Tinubu - Babachir Lawal by Sunday2021: 12:04pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
LegendHero:I am a northerner and I know what iam telling you. Tinubu will not get 50% of northern Muslims votes. Majority of Muslims in the north will vote for atiku. Do you know the meaning of " Namu namu ne" |
Re: Muslim-Muslim Ticket: Northern Govs Greek gift to Tinubu - Babachir Lawal by tegrianonigltd(m): 12:06pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Throwback: All of them, all of Una, Dey crazy, sorry to say. Tinubu Wey no fit convert Lagos to world class, abi na atiku or Obi, both Una and their supporters are idiots. Make them just restructure or share the country. 1 Like |
Re: Muslim-Muslim Ticket: Northern Govs Greek gift to Tinubu - Babachir Lawal by LegendHero(m): 12:17pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Sunday2021: Well you have the right to your numbers while I have the right to my prediction. The meaning is that theirs is theirs. Like Yoruba will say “Omo wa ni” 1 Like |
Re: Muslim-Muslim Ticket: Northern Govs Greek gift to Tinubu - Babachir Lawal by porka: 12:34pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
The Christians making noise don't know anything. Tinubu is not looking for any vote. The northern Muslim governors have promised him DECLARATION not vote. They simply want to DECLARE him president. Voter suppression in Christian areas and excessive numbers (including UNDERAGE VOTER COUNT) in Muslim dominated areas. That is what he has been promised. They will ask you to go court. The governor of Akwa Ibom State gave a snippet of what they are up to recently. Violence will erupt in many states like Akwa Ibom, which would make INEC postpone election in those states. They will come and conduct the election in a week or two with massive militarization preventing people from moving to the polling units. It has happened in Osun. Even Buhari himself said they won by "REMOTE CONTROL'. And that is the preferred modul operandi of the Tinubu himself. That was what they did to Segun Oni in Ekiti some years back. When Christians were told that Nigeria will be Islamized in 2015, many foolish one thought it would involve putting guns in head. They said it was not possible. They lack any critical way of reasoning. They massively voted for an Islamic agenda with their own hands. Now, it is only a miracle that will stop the AGENDA. Many so-called Christians only answer it with their mouth, anyway. If Christians are really serious, they should beam more light on INEC and its chairman. Christian activists should by now be interested in what goes on in INEC. They should be monitoring every move of the chairman and the commissioners. That is the constituted agency that is vested with the power to DECLARE a winner for president of Nigeria. Christians should insist that ELECTIONS should be CONDUCTED ON A SINGLE DAY. No cancellation in a SINGLE Polling unit. No postponement of election anywhere. Christians should RESIST any FORM of VIOLENCE in their community. They should refused to be PROVOKED to violence. They should expose those who are planning violence. If you think this election is about your tribe, you are making a serious MISTAKE. Yoruba Christians should take the issue seriously. Religion is a SERIOUS issue. It is about your FAITH. Do not say it doesn't matter because you can secure VISA to Europe and America. There are millions of people who will not be able to practice their FAITH within Nigeria, who will not be eligible for VISA. Do not be selfish. Defend your FAITH. So many Christians and many conscientious Muslim resisted in 2015 with Buhari, they are now using Tinubu to achieve it. Resist ISLAMIZATION of Nigeria. |
Re: Muslim-Muslim Ticket: Northern Govs Greek gift to Tinubu - Babachir Lawal by AbuUmmu: 12:36pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Babachir crying over spill milk, shield your sword, when the time comes, Muslims vote Muslims and Christians vote Christians. Let have a litmus test for feature elections pls |
Re: Muslim-Muslim Ticket: Northern Govs Greek gift to Tinubu - Babachir Lawal by trantayo: 12:37pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Yorubas are not after so called religion that didn't take us no where. Tell me the benefits of Buhari and Osinbajo presidency in term of security and inflation. Does super eagle select players based on religion rather Base on fitness. Tinubu go for gold. Those people that didn't vote for APC in 2015, are the one making noise. |
Re: Muslim-Muslim Ticket: Northern Govs Greek gift to Tinubu - Babachir Lawal by IamGreen1(f): 1:13pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Throwback: Thanks for this |
Re: Muslim-Muslim Ticket: Northern Govs Greek gift to Tinubu - Babachir Lawal by Mosesvic11(m): 3:13pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Throwback:be sincere to yourself will he choice work in today nigeria? Oga think deeply, it is not about tribal but with happenings in the country now, he decision is bad for our peace. |
Re: Muslim-Muslim Ticket: Northern Govs Greek gift to Tinubu - Babachir Lawal by Ray02: 3:39pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Throwback:Small small nah. When did Peter Obi buy PDP's presidential ticket form? |
Re: Muslim-Muslim Ticket: Northern Govs Greek gift to Tinubu - Babachir Lawal by Themandator: 3:54pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
MrBachelor: The man can sacrifice anything and anybody to achieve this thing ...somebody that queried why anyone should conclude that the killers of a prominent Yoruba figure where herdsmen ...that they should be questioned ...anything to please the northerner Muslim elite |
Re: Muslim-Muslim Ticket: Northern Govs Greek gift to Tinubu - Babachir Lawal by Themandator: 3:59pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Throwback: Is the writer Atiku or Obi ......why not focus on the subject matter before you ...Tinubu made his choice and his own friend that knows him more then yourself wrote something Face the man ,you avoided him like a coward to analyse Obi life history |
Re: Muslim-Muslim Ticket: Northern Govs Greek gift to Tinubu - Babachir Lawal by MrBachelor: 4:05pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Themandator: The old thing even said he was ready to fight dirty. And that some youths are promoting the candidacy of such a person is beyond common sense. |
Re: Muslim-Muslim Ticket: Northern Govs Greek gift to Tinubu - Babachir Lawal by Dododawa01: 4:22pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Sunday2021: APC will win in your Papa house but if u like burn your papa house but ko kan aye |
Re: Muslim-Muslim Ticket: Northern Govs Greek gift to Tinubu - Babachir Lawal by Throwback: 4:38pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Ray02: Obi decamped from PDP to LP just few days to the PDP primaries. He already got the PDP form and had been campaigning until he realised he would not defeat Atiku or Wike, then he bolted to LP. |
Re: Muslim-Muslim Ticket: Northern Govs Greek gift to Tinubu - Babachir Lawal by luluman: 5:10pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Throwback:Yes you have correctly analysed his tactics to get to the top like others, but you never spoke about his disposition to Christians in his Muslim- Muslims ticket. Does that mean he cares less about the feelings of Christian's because he wants to rule? The Atiku & Obi you mentioned still gave regards to people's feeling on the religion of their running mates. Is that the meaning of fighting dirty according to Tinubu. Chairman just shut up If you are not a Christian you can't feel our pain |
Re: Muslim-Muslim Ticket: Northern Govs Greek gift to Tinubu - Babachir Lawal by Ray02: 7:11pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Throwback:Toor |
Re: Muslim-Muslim Ticket: Northern Govs Greek gift to Tinubu - Babachir Lawal by Oyinlomobambam(m): 10:08pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Ojuntana: The conclusion is would you vote Apc if they pick Pope as a VP? Capital NO is the answer. So let them be |
Re: Muslim-Muslim Ticket: Northern Govs Greek gift to Tinubu - Babachir Lawal by Ojuntana: 10:36pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Oyinlomobambam:Ask Babachir, Bwala and Abbo that question too. Since you like APC more than them. Ignoramus |
Re: Muslim-Muslim Ticket: Northern Govs Greek gift to Tinubu - Babachir Lawal by Oyinlomobambam(m): 11:43pm On Jul 13, 2022 |
Ojuntana: They won't... Reason they left. Its a choice |
Re: Muslim-Muslim Ticket: Northern Govs Greek gift to Tinubu - Babachir Lawal by Ojuntana: 3:23am On Jul 14, 2022 |
Oyinlomobambam:Really? Seems you're not only ignorant but also a barefaced liar. Babachir who purchased the forms for your Idol was not planning to vote for him? I guess you love him more than he does |
Re: Muslim-Muslim Ticket: Northern Govs Greek gift to Tinubu - Babachir Lawal by Oyinlomobambam(m): 2:25pm On Jul 14, 2022 |
Ojuntana: I think he knows what's best for him... Your own is to also decide what to do and stop crying |
Re: Muslim-Muslim Ticket: Northern Govs Greek gift to Tinubu - Babachir Lawal by Ojuntana: 3:12pm On Jul 14, 2022 |
Oyinlomobambam: Crying? Who is crying? Abeg shift if you're bereft of anything sensible left to say |
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