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Kobojunkie:
Don't worry... you remind me so much of the typical Churchian... willing to fight tooth and nail against anyone who dares to challenge those ideas he has been filled with from time.

It doesn't matter what you remained. You dug this hole for yourself.

tctrills:
It doesn't matter what you remained. You dug this hole for yourself.

A hole you imagined for yourself?

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a. On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, Jesus Christ instructs His disciples to go prepare everything for the Passover meal - Matthew 26 vs 17 - 19
b. Jesus and His disciples have their Last Supper on the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread - Mark 14 vs 12 - 17
c. Jesus Christ instructed His disciples to go prepare the Passover meal for the group on the Day of Unleavened bread. - Luke 22 vs 7 - 13
d. It was almost time for the Jewish Passover Festival, that evening Jesus Christ came together for the mean with His followers - John 13 vs 1 - 3

Clearly, one of the accounts has to be wrong!

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The law of 2 or 3 witnesses applies only when God has not specified a Truth. In this case, We have God in Leviticus 23 vs 4 - 8 clearly explaining that Passover meals are to be eaten on Passover day, and we have Jesus Christ in Matthew 26 vs 1- 2 declaring that He would be arrested on Passover day. Obviously, you cannot overrule God's declaration by the accounts of witnesses. So, why do you hesitate?

Kobojunkie:
A hole you imagined for yourself?

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a. On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, Jesus Christ instructs His disciples to go prepare everything for the Passover meal - Matthew 26 vs 17 - 19
b. Jesus and His disciples have their Last Supper on the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread - Mark 14 vs 12 - 17
c. Jesus Christ instructed His disciples to go prepare the Passover meal for the group on the Day of Unleavened bread. - Luke 22 vs 7 - 13
d. It was almost time for the Jewish Passover Festival, that evening Jesus Christ came together for the mean with His followers - John 13 vs 1 - 3

Clearly, one of the accounts has to be wrong!

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The law of 2 or 3 witnesses applies only when God has not specified a Truth. In this case, We have God in Leviticus 23 vs 4 - 8 clearly explaining that Passover meals are to be eaten on Passover day, and we have Jesus Christ in Matthew 26 vs 1- 2 declaring that He would be arrested on Passover day. Obviously, you cannot overrule God's declaration by the accounts of witnesses. So, why do you hesitate?

You just said you believe in the quran. You fell into your own hole.

tctrills:
You just said you believe in the quran. You fell into your own hole.

I never said I believe in the quran. I believe it is depicted as the word of Allah, a deity different from the God that I believe in. So?

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a. On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, Jesus Christ instructs His disciples to go prepare everything for the Passover meal - Matthew 26 vs 17 - 19
b. Jesus and His disciples have their Last Supper on the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread - Mark 14 vs 12 - 17
c. Jesus Christ instructed His disciples to go prepare the Passover meal for the group on the Day of Unleavened bread. - Luke 22 vs 7 - 13
d. It was almost time for the Jewish Passover Festival, that evening Jesus Christ came together for the mean with His followers - John 13 vs 1 - 3

Clearly, one of the accounts has to be wrong!

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The law of 2 or 3 witnesses applies only when God has not specified a Truth. In this case, We have God in Leviticus 23 vs 4 - 8 clearly explaining that Passover meals are to be eaten on Passover day, and we have Jesus Christ in Matthew 26 vs 1- 2 declaring that He would be arrested on Passover day. Obviously, you cannot overrule God's declaration by the accounts of witnesses. So, why do you hesitate?

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All this because you refuse to face the fact which is that your Bible contains errors that cannot be denied?

Kobojunkie:
I never said I believe in the quran. I believe it is depicted as the word of Allah, a deity different from the God that I believe in. So?

Now you are changing your stands. Please what is God in Arabic?

tctrills:
Now you are changing your stands. Please what is God in Arabic?

How much longer do you intend to go on with these deflections?

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a. On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, Jesus Christ instructs His disciples to go prepare everything for the Passover meal - Matthew 26 vs 17 - 19
b. Jesus and His disciples have their Last Supper on the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread - Mark 14 vs 12 - 17
c. Jesus Christ instructed His disciples to go prepare the Passover meal for the group on the Day of Unleavened bread. - Luke 22 vs 7 - 13
d. It was almost time for the Jewish Passover Festival, that evening Jesus Christ came together for the mean with His followers - John 13 vs 1 - 3

Clearly, one of the accounts has to be wrong!

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The law of 2 or 3 witnesses applies only when God has not specified a Truth. In this case, We have God in Leviticus 23 vs 4 - 8 clearly explaining that Passover meals are to be eaten on Passover day, and we have Jesus Christ in Matthew 26 vs 1- 2 declaring that He would be arrested on Passover day. Obviously, you cannot overrule God's declaration by the accounts of witnesses. So, why do you hesitate?

Kobojunkie:
How much longer do you intend to go on with these deflections?

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a. On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, Jesus Christ instructs His disciples to go prepare everything for the Passover meal - Matthew 26 vs 17 - 19
b. Jesus and His disciples have their Last Supper on the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread - Mark 14 vs 12 - 17
c. Jesus Christ instructed His disciples to go prepare the Passover meal for the group on the Day of Unleavened bread. - Luke 22 vs 7 - 13
d. It was almost time for the Jewish Passover Festival, that evening Jesus Christ came together for the mean with His followers - John 13 vs 1 - 3

Clearly, one of the accounts has to be wrong!

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The law of 2 or 3 witnesses applies only when God has not specified a Truth. In this case, We have God in Leviticus 23 vs 4 - 8 clearly explaining that Passover meals are to be eaten on Passover day, and we have Jesus Christ in Matthew 26 vs 1- 2 declaring that He would be arrested on Passover day. Obviously, you cannot overrule God's declaration by the accounts of witnesses. So, why do you hesitate?

The thing is this, we need to be sure that any verse you quote is actually the word of God and not one of the many falsehoods in the bible.

tctrills:
The thing is this, we need to be sure that any verse you quote is actually the word of God and not one of the many falsehoods in the bible.

Do these verses here all tell you the same story?

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a. On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, Jesus Christ instructs His disciples to go prepare everything for the Passover meal - Matthew 26 vs 17 - 19
b. Jesus and His disciples have their Last Supper on the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread - Mark 14 vs 12 - 17
c. Jesus Christ instructed His disciples to go prepare the Passover meal for the group on the Day of Unleavened bread. - Luke 22 vs 7 - 13
d. It was almost time for the Jewish Passover Festival, that evening Jesus Christ came together for the mean with His followers - John 13 vs 1 - 3

Clearly, one of the accounts has to be wrong! Which do you believe to be wrong?

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The law of 2 or 3 witnesses applies only when God has not specified a Truth. In this case, We have God in Leviticus 23 vs 4 - 8 clearly explaining that Passover meals are to be eaten on Passover day, and we have Jesus Christ in Matthew 26 vs 1- 2 declaring that He would be arrested on Passover day. Obviously, you cannot overrule God's declaration by the accounts of witnesses. So, why do you hesitate?

Kobojunkie:
Do these verses here all tell you the same story?

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a. On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, Jesus Christ instructs His disciples to go prepare everything for the Passover meal - Matthew 26 vs 17 - 19
b. Jesus and His disciples have their Last Supper on the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread - Mark 14 vs 12 - 17
c. Jesus Christ instructed His disciples to go prepare the Passover meal for the group on the Day of Unleavened bread. - Luke 22 vs 7 - 13
d. It was almost time for the Jewish Passover Festival, that evening Jesus Christ came together for the mean with His followers - John 13 vs 1 - 3

Clearly, one of the accounts has to be wrong! Which do you believe to be wrong?

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The law of 2 or 3 witnesses applies only when God has not specified a Truth. In this case, We have God in Leviticus 23 vs 4 - 8 clearly explaining that Passover meals are to be eaten on Passover day, and we have Jesus Christ in Matthew 26 vs 1- 2 declaring that He would be arrested on Passover day. Obviously, you cannot overrule God's declaration by the accounts of witnesses. So, why do you hesitate?

How are you sure that all these verses above are not false?

Kobojunkie:
Do these verses here all tell you the same story?

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a. On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, Jesus Christ instructs His disciples to go prepare everything for the Passover meal - Matthew 26 vs 17 - 19
b. Jesus and His disciples have their Last Supper on the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread - Mark 14 vs 12 - 17
c. Jesus Christ instructed His disciples to go prepare the Passover meal for the group on the Day of Unleavened bread. - Luke 22 vs 7 - 13
d. It was almost time for the Jewish Passover Festival, that evening Jesus Christ came together for the mean with His followers - John 13 vs 1 - 3

Clearly, one of the accounts has to be wrong! Which do you believe to be wrong?

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The law of 2 or 3 witnesses applies only when God has not specified a Truth. In this case, We have God in Leviticus 23 vs 4 - 8 clearly explaining that Passover meals are to be eaten on Passover day, and we have Jesus Christ in Matthew 26 vs 1- 2 declaring that He would be arrested on Passover day. Obviously, you cannot overrule God's declaration by the accounts of witnesses. So, why do you hesitate?

Could all these verses be false?

tctrills:
How are you sure that all these verses above are not false?

This is an easy comprehension assignment.

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a. On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, Jesus Christ instructs His disciples to go prepare everything for the Passover meal - Matthew 26 vs 17 - 19
b. Jesus and His disciples have their Last Supper on the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread - Mark 14 vs 12 - 17
c. Jesus Christ instructed His disciples to go prepare the Passover meal for the group on the Day of Unleavened bread. - Luke 22 vs 7 - 13
d. It was almost time for the Jewish Passover Festival, that evening Jesus Christ came together for the mean with His followers - John 13 vs 1 - 3

Clearly, one of the accounts has to be wrong! Which do you believe to be wrong since all of them can't be right!

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The law of 2 or 3 witnesses applies only when God has not specified a Truth. In this case, We have God in Leviticus 23 vs 4 - 8 clearly explaining that Passover meals are to be eaten on Passover day, and we have Jesus Christ in Matthew 26 vs 1- 2 declaring that He would be arrested on Passover day. Obviously, you cannot overrule God's declaration by the accounts of witnesses. So, why do you hesitate?

Kobojunkie:
This is an easy comprehension assignment.

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a. On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, Jesus Christ instructs His disciples to go prepare everything for the Passover meal - Matthew 26 vs 17 - 19
b. Jesus and His disciples have their Last Supper on the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread - Mark 14 vs 12 - 17
c. Jesus Christ instructed His disciples to go prepare the Passover meal for the group on the Day of Unleavened bread. - Luke 22 vs 7 - 13
d. It was almost time for the Jewish Passover Festival, that evening Jesus Christ came together for the mean with His followers - John 13 vs 1 - 3

Clearly, one of the accounts has to be wrong! Which do you believe to be wrong since all of them can't be right!

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The law of 2 or 3 witnesses applies only when God has not specified a Truth. In this case, We have God in Leviticus 23 vs 4 - 8 clearly explaining that Passover meals are to be eaten on Passover day, and we have Jesus Christ in Matthew 26 vs 1- 2 declaring that He would be arrested on Passover day. Obviously, you cannot overrule God's declaration by the accounts of witnesses. So, why do you hesitate?

What do u mean by an easy comprehension assignment? For example, how can you tell that John 13 vs 1 - 3 is not false?

tctrills:
What do u mean by an easy comprehension assignment? For example, how can you tell that John 13 vs 1 - 3 is not false?

Are you insinuating that particular account is in error then?

Kobojunkie:
Are you insinuating that particular account is in error then?

I am asking to show it is not.

Kobojunkie:
1. It is OK if you don't understand that God's Law is His standard.

Of course, no one know's God's standard. That's why if i ask you why hundreds of kids die everyday,you'd tell me "God's plan is different from ours". Isn't that right?

2. I don't follow at all.

The disciples were sent out to teach the God's Law to those who are in the world, those who do not believe in God and know His Truth.

Would you know of God's standard if it had not being brought to you by your slave masters?

3. Many of the first Christians came to a knowledge of God without needing to read your Bible first. Open your mind to the time before the books so you realize that God is not limited to the pages of the books.

What first Christians? You're not talking of apostle Paul are you? If you, sir, open your own mind to the reality of the world, you'd notice that that which you call "God's standard" had already been set in stone in other regions of the world. Take Hinduism and Buddhism for example, Buddhism is the gospel of the logos which evolved from Hinduism just like Christianity evolved from Judaism.

You cannot also claim that the God behind judaism is the one behind hinduism. As a matter of fact, Gautama Buddha's teachings have more substance to it than that of Jesus. You cannot disagree with me unless you put that Christian religion above that of Hinduism, in which case you position as a christian, like others, is based on socio-cultural bias.

kkins25:
Of course, no one know's God's standard. That's why if i ask you why hundreds of kids die everyday,you'd tell me "God's plan is different from ours". Isn't that right?

2. Would you know of God's standard if it had not being brought to you by your slave masters?

3. What first Christians? You're not talking of apostle Paul are you? If you, sir, open your own mind to the reality of the world, you'd notice that that which you call "God's standard" had already been set in stone in other regions of the world. Take Hinduism and Buddhism for example, Buddhism is the gospel of the logos which evolved from Hinduism just like Christianity evolved from Judaism.

You cannot also claim that the God behind judaism is the one behind hinduism. As a matter of fact, Gautama Buddha's teachings have more substance to it than that of Jesus. You cannot disagree with me unless you put that Christian religion above that of Hinduism, in which case you position as a christian, like others, is based on socio-cultural bias.

1.1. God's Standard refers to God's Law by which all those who are under said Law are Judged by Him.

That hundreds of kids die every day does not have anything to do with God's Standard, nor does it impact it in any form, since God's standard, and Law, has nothing to do with what is your lifespan in this life. For example, God's Standard for Adam included the law which required he not eat of the Tree of Knowledge of good and evil. But Adam defied the standard and so faced God's judgment. That is sort of how God's standard works.

2. Open your mind! Before your slave masters arrived about 300 years ago, there were Christians living right here in Africa. Places like Ethiopia, Egypt, and even Northern Sudan had churches in existence for over a thousand years. Copies of the Book called your Bible weren't available to a majority of those who were of the belief even then, but they believed anyways. God is not limited to the pages of what you call your Bible, a book that is only still less than 500 years old in its' proliferation. Open your mind.

I gave you the example of Moses, a man who spent most of his life living away from the knowledge of His people and their God and their beliefs, yet he was able to encounter the same God of His People while living out 40 years in the desert. God is not limited to the pages of your bible. Another example is Abraham, a man formerly an idol worshipper before God showed up to Him and caused Abraham to follow Him instead. There are numerous stories of individuals who found God before even the first print edition of your bible was released, before your slave masters were born. Open your mind!

3. HUh?

You sound like you are rambling at this point for some reason. I believe in previous discussions I have made it clear to you that there are numerous deities out there and each deity can and probably has its own standard for its own followers to cleave to. The God I refer to, however, and speak of is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, not some other God. As I believe I have made clear several times at this point. There are various deities out there for people to choose from but when the standard I live by is that of the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

tctrills:
I am asking to show it is not.

This is an easy comprehension assignment. All 4 accounts do not agree at all.

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a. On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, Jesus Christ instructs His disciples to go prepare everything for the Passover meal - Matthew 26 vs 17 - 19
b. Jesus and His disciples have their Last Supper on the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread - Mark 14 vs 12 - 17
c. Jesus Christ instructed His disciples to go prepare the Passover meal for the group on the Day of Unleavened bread. - Luke 22 vs 7 - 13
d. It was almost time for the Jewish Passover Festival, that evening Jesus Christ came together for the mean with His followers - John 13 vs 1 - 3

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Clearly, one of the accounts has to be wrong! Which do you believe to be wrong since all of them can't be right!

Kobojunkie:
This is an easy comprehension assignment. All 4 accounts do not agree at all.

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a. On the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread, Jesus Christ instructs His disciples to go prepare everything for the Passover meal - Matthew 26 vs 17 - 19
b. Jesus and His disciples have their Last Supper on the first day of the Festival of Unleavened Bread - Mark 14 vs 12 - 17
c. Jesus Christ instructed His disciples to go prepare the Passover meal for the group on the Day of Unleavened bread. - Luke 22 vs 7 - 13
d. It was almost time for the Jewish Passover Festival, that evening Jesus Christ came together for the mean with His followers - John 13 vs 1 - 3

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Clearly, one of the accounts has to be wrong! Which do you believe to be wrong since all of them can't be right!

If all 4 do not agree, it could mean all 4 are wrong don't you think?

tctrills:
If all 4 do not agree, it could mean all 4 are wrong don't you think?

What do you mean if all 4 do not agree? You do not need to be a genius to realize this even at this point, do you?

Kobojunkie:
What do you mean if all 4 do not agree? You do not need to be a genius to realize this even at this point, do you?

If all 4 do not agree, it could mean any of the following.
1. Some are wrong and some are right.
2. All are wrong.
So I asked, what if all are wrong, how do you know which is wrong or right?

tctrills:
If all 4 do not agree, it could mean any of the following.
1. Some are wrong and some are right.
2. All are wrong.
So I asked, what if all are wrong, how do you know which is wrong or right?

Again, What do you mean if all 4 do not agree? You do not need to be a genius to realize this even at this point, do you?

Kobojunkie:
Again, What do you mean if all 4 do not agree? You do not need to be a genius to realize this even at this point, do you?

You say all 4 do not agree. According to you, some are wrong. So how do you know which is wrong and which is right?

tctrills:
You say all 4 do not agree. According to you, some are wrong. So how do you know which is wrong and which is right?

So, you don't or can't see with your own eyes and understanding that all 4 accounts do not agree?

Kobojunkie:
So, you don't see with your own eyes that all 4 do not agree?

I keep asking you the same question, it's up to you to point which is wrong and which is right. I am waiting

tctrills:
I keep asking you the same question, it's up to you to point which is wrong and which is right. I am waiting

Again, So, you don't or can't see with your own eyes and understanding that all 4 accounts do not agree?

Kobojunkie:
Again, So, you don't or can't see with your own eyes and understanding that all 4 accounts do not agree?

If they don't agree, which is right and which is wrong. All maybe all 4 are wrong?

tctrills:
If they don't agree, which is right and which is wrong. All maybe all 4 are wrong?

If your wish is to conclude all 4 accounts to be in error, that is fine by me.

Kobojunkie:
If your wish is to conclude all 4 accounts to be in error, that is fine by me.

I did not conclude, I am asking you. Tell me, which one is correct

Kobojunkie:
If your wish is to conclude all 4 accounts to be in error, that is fine by me.

I am giving you the chance to explain yourself, tell us which is wrong and which is correct.

tctrills:
I did not conclude, I am asking you. Tell me, which one is correct

Why do you need me to tell you which is correct?

tctrills:
I am giving you the chance to explain yourself, tell us which is wrong and which is correct.

Why do you think I owe you an explanation?

Kobojunkie:
Why do you need me to tell you which is correct?

Ok, keep it to yourself na.