Nazgul:

Nope it's about 4-5 years. That's the duration you're expected to spend on a particular rank before becoming qualified to sit for the promotional exams to the next rank.

I heard that the exams from Colonel to brigadier general is the most difficult in the Nigerian army...and most people fail it. But there's the political factor which favours the ruling northern elites that's why there are so many northern generals today than Southerners.

Nice! Mehnnn, e no easy ooo.

Truvelisback:
Nice! Mehnnn, e no easy ooo.

Yea it certainly isn't easy. But you must understand that the Military is a career where you spend over 35 years as an active personnel. So you have to keep going for courses home and abroad so that you can be qualified for promotional exams. It's not a job where you can easily resign, it's a career where you spend almost your whole life in.

Lol...
Made me remember my biological fathers experience as a Mopol on escourt
Back then he was an insp(equivalent to a warrant offficer) , I didn't know what brought this NPA graduated ASP(2nd leaut) to this escourt and they got ambushed(its a joint escort special duty tho) , the guy needed to drop the radio immidate to the INSP to take over the order coz he was badly scared..... In short they manover but the glory was on the ASP...
WO no get power reach LT....
But most time them dey get craze coz they believe NDA cadet no sabi(asper expirince) ..... Talking from expirince of barrack boy

Not even a master warrant officer. he will take orders

Nazgul:

Yea it certainly isn't easy. But you must understand that the Military is a career where you spend over 35 years as an active personnel. So you have to keep going for courses home and abroad so that you can be qualified for promotional exams. It's not a job where you can easily resign, it's a career where you spend almost your whole life in.

I thought promotion also comes based on the number of years u have served in the force.

That you not a warrant officer wantsn't warrant you to disrespect a commissioned officer

Truvelisback:
I thought promotion also comes based on the number of years u have served in the force.

Who told you that? That's not true, your promotion comes based on your ability to complete the courses required to sit for promotional exams to the next rank and pass the exams. Only then would you be promoted and decorated. And once your set are due for retirement you would be retired regardless of your rank unless you're occupying an appointed position like the chief of defense or chief of army staff, and the president doesn't want you out just yet, then you wouldn't be affected by the mass retirement.

I forgot to add that after attaining the rank of a brigadier general, the next 3 ranks you'll attain after that which are Major General, lieutenant General and General would be by appointment not by merit.

Major generals (2star generals) are very few in Nigeria because they're appointed, most are GOCs and Directors. Lieutenant Generals (3 star generals) are only 3. Which is the chief of army staff, chief of air staff and chief of naval staff. Which is also by appointment and Generals (4 star generals) are only one which is the chief of defense or joint chief of staff. He controls both the army, Airforce and Navy.

If you're coming through NDA, the highest rank you're most likely to attain if you work extremely hard is a Colonel and then you'll be due for retirement (or pull out as they call it in the army) if you're extremely intelligent, a brigadier general. From major general, you'll have to belong to the political northern class cos they're ranks attained by appointment not by merit.

In uniform professional job irrespective of your year of service if a commission Officer order a non commission soldier h/she must obey oder, is just that those young boys and girls that went to NDA sometimes do not have respect for soldier that has been in service to twenty years or plus. Uniform work is by rank irrespective the education the person acquired.

Some people will just be talking about what they don't know..
A WO will always take orders from a LT even if the WO has spent 34years in service and the LT was commisioned yesterday... but the LT go dey give him respect because the WO ghat more experience.. but when it comes to Obeying ORDERS, the LT is superior and the WO must obey him/her.

Learnt some things I never knew about the ranks and files of the Nigerian Army. Especially the promotion by appointment from Major General to a Full General. Thank you Nazgul.

Been Educated and having a degree differentiate you from a person who was born or even have worked 10yrs before you. It is believed your degree is an encompassed knowledge of years of research and supercedes a 10yrs practical man. Sadly this is true for only those who can put theory into proper Use.
That been said a Commisioned officer Is been respected and can instruct any Non commissioned officer. Just the way an ASP is above any non commissioned officer below. Even the salary Differnce is there.
You are been paid for your ability to think and work things out just exactly where the knowledge of the Warrant officer Stops.
In the field of Engineering, Civil Engineering precisely, No matter how little the Graduate Engineer is the foreman , laborers and all who are bigger and older than him must take the last Instruction from him. if he says pull down a structure, that structure must go.

Nazgul:

Who told you that? That's not true, your promotion comes based on your ability to complete the courses required to sit for promotional exams to the next rank and pass the exams. Only then would you be promoted and decorated. And once your set are due for retirement you would be retired regardless of your rank unless you're occupying an appointed position like the chief of defense or chief of army staff, and the president doesn't want you out just yet, then you wouldn't be affected by the mass retirement.

I forgot to add that after attaining the rank of a brigadier general, the next 3 ranks you'll attain after that which are Major General, lieutenant General and General would be by appointment not by merit.

Major generals (2star generals) are very few in Nigeria because they're appointed, most are GOCs and Directors. Lieutenant Generals (3 star generals) are only 3. Which is the chief of army staff, chief of air staff and chief of naval staff. Which is also by appointment and Generals (4 star generals) are only one which is the chief of defense or joint chief of staff. He controls both the army, Airforce and Navy.

If you're coming through NDA, the highest rank you're most likely to attain if you work extremely hard is a Colonel and then you'll be due for retirement (or pull out as they call it in the army) if you're extremely intelligent, a brigadier general. From major general, you'll have to belong to the political northern class cos they're ranks attained by appointment not by merit.

Nice one, thanks for the info. If a person joins the Army as a recruit(S.S.C.E), then he/she then further his/her education to HND and tenders it, will he or she be promoted to an higher rank?

Nazgul:

Nope it's about 4-5 years. That's the duration you're expected to spend on a particular rank before becoming qualified to sit for the promotional exams to the next rank.

I heard that the exams from Colonel to brigadier general is the most difficult in the Nigerian army...and most people fail it. But there's the political factor which favours the ruling northern elites that's why there are so many northern generals today than Southerners.

Jesus! This people have completely destroyed this country!

Truvelisback:
Nice one, thanks for the info. If a person joins the Army as a recruit(S.S.C.E), then he/she then further his/her education to HND and tenders it, will he or she be promoted to an higher rank?

You can become commissioned as a mustang but it's never easy. Never make the mistake of joining via RRI. You'll regret it in the long run.

The simple question asked was can a Warrant Officer take orders from a Lieutenant?
The simple answer is YES.
The simple explanation is: Lieutenant is a superior rank to Warrant Officer.

4ward4:
Been Educated and having a degree differentiate you from a person who was born or even have worked 10yrs before you. It is believed your degree is an encompassed knowledge of years of research and supercedes a 10yrs practical man. Sadly this is true for only those who can put theory into proper Use.
That been said a Commisioned officer Is been respected and can instruct any Non commissioned officer. Just the way an ASP is above any non commissioned officer below. Even the salary Differnce is there.
You are been paid for your ability to think and work things out just exactly where the knowledge of the Warrant officer Stops.
In the field of Engineering, Civil Engineering precisely, No matter how little the Graduate Engineer is the foreman , laborers and all who are bigger and older than him must take the last Instruction from him. if he says pull down a structure, that structure must go.

Stop saying nonsense.
We are talking about field soldiers here, combatants (mechanized , artillery, armoured, amphibious, infantry , guards brigade). What the warrant officer knows the graduate does not know. There's a reason warrant officers are called specialists and ghosts, they are barely seen only when they are needed in special duties. Just like consultants in medicine. A warrant officer will respect the lieutenant , no doubt but he can also advice the lieutenant and if he loves himself, he should listen to the WO advice. ( I said advice not orders). As a lieutenant and in charge of a platoon, your soldiers are usually more loyal to their warrant officers than even you.

Is like this question is from all these fresh passed out recruits wey dey roam our streets recently

CaptainZubi:
warrant officers are given assignments similar to captains. They are specialists with great experience. Even generals respect them not to talk of a 20 something year old lieutenant who just finished RC, SSC/DSSC. A warrant officer can tell a lieutenant to fvck off and nothing will happen. Infact if you want to enjoy your military career, respect them warrant officers , NCOs (privates - master warrant officers ) are the spinal cord of the army and once they start their craze like this, na you go tire.

Bullshit. Even the NCOs won't dare disrespect a CO.

The chain of command is strictly adhered to else court martial straight.

ITbomb:
Is like this question is from all these fresh passed out recruits wey dey roam our streets recently

Na your papa be freshly passed out recruit wey dey roam street.

KingAzubuike:

You can become commissioned as a mustang but it's never easy. Never make the mistake of joining via RRI. You'll regret it in the long run.

Is Mustang a rank? What's the meaning of RRI?

Truvelisback:
Is Mustang a rank? What's the meaning of RRI?

Not a rank.. they are usually enlisted soldiers who were given executive commissioning . EG, a sergeant or warrant officer could be commissioned and given the rank of a captain ..

Rri is regular recruit intake.

Truvelisback:
Nice one, thanks for the info. If a person joins the Army as a recruit(S.S.C.E), then he/she then further his/her education to HND and tenders it, will he or she be promoted to an higher rank?

You'll have to do conversion...and during conversion it's much better to tender at least a Bsc or a higher degree. Cos that's the degree that NDA awards.

HND would be accepted and you would be converted but you'll experience certain limitations, and would most likely not get to the rank of a Colonel before retirement. Do you know that people convert with Msc and PhD? During my days in the university, I had some NCOs in my department. They were hussling for their Bsc, they told me that they'll immediately apply for their Msc upon graduation, because NYSC isn't for them cos they're already in the military so once they finish their degree program, they'll just buy Msc form and continue until they're through then convert. Some even go as far as attaining PhD before applying for conversion so that they'll have lesser courses to cover and lesser years before the next promotion cos they've already covered so much academically.

KingAzubuike:

Not a rank.. they are usually enlisted soldiers who were given executive commissioning . EG, a sergeant or warrant officer could be commissioned and given the rank of a captain ..

Rri is regular recruit intake.

What qualifies one for mustang and Why would one regret joining Via RRI?

Nazgul:

You'll have to do conversion...and during conversion it's much better to tender at least a Bsc or a higher degree. Cos that's the degree that NDA awards.

HND would be accepted and you would be converted but you'll experience certain limitations, and would most likely not get to the rank of a Colonel before retirement. Do you know that people convert with Msc and PhD? During my days in the university, I had some NCOs in my department. They were hussling for their Bsc, they told me that they'll immediately apply for their Msc upon graduation, because NYSC isn't for them cos they're already in the military so once they finish their degree program, they'll just buy Msc form and continue until they're through then convert. Some even go as far as attaining PhD before applying for conversion so that they'll have lesser courses to cover and lesser years before the next promotion cos they've already covered so much academically.

What would they convert to? Is it to the Millitary courses?

Truvelisback:
What would they convert to? Is it to the Millitary courses?

All conversions start with 2ndLieutenant, but how fast you climb the ladder in your military career would depend on how academically qualified you are.

And yes to the military courses. For instance a Bsc holder from a regular university is the same as a 2nd lieutenant. A PhD holder is equivalent to a lieutenant Colonel. So if you do your conversion with a PhD degree, even though you would start from a 2nd lieutenant, you'll definitely be promoted faster than those you started with cos you have the qualifications of a lieutenant Colonel. Your own is to keep passing and updating yourself.

Truvelisback:
What qualifies one for mustang and Why would one regret joining Via RRI?

They mainly consider those who have been remarkably exceptional in service.

RRI, why should you enlist for that? Except you're ready to suffer, don't join the army as a recruit.

Nazgul:

All conversions start with 2ndLieutenant, but how fast you climb the ladder in your military career would depend on how academically qualified you are.

And yes to the military courses. For instance a Bsc holder from a regular university is the same as a 2nd lieutenant. A PhD holder is equivalent to a lieutenant Colonel. So if you do your conversion with a PhD degree, even though you would start from a 2nd lieutenant, you'll definitely be promoted faster than those you started with cos you have the qualifications of a lieutenant Colonel. Your own is to keep passing and updating yourself.

Thanks for the info. I have really learnt a lot from ur analysis. Last year, i went for the NAF screening and i met a newly recruited personnel. He disclosed certain things to me. He said a female colleague of which they both did (POP) pass out parade together is his senior based on their service number. However, his earning is higher than hers because he was enlisted as Regiment or selected as part of Regiment. What do u have to say abt this? Is it the same in the Army?

KingAzubuike:

They mainly consider those who have been remarkably exceptional in service.

RRI, why should you enlist for that? Except you're ready to suffer, don't join the army as a recruit.

I guess, the training, right?

Truvelisback:
Thanks for the info. I have really learnt a lot from ur analysis. Last year, i went for the NAF screening and i met a newly recruited personnel. He disclosed certain things to me. He said a female colleague of which they both did (POP) pass out parade together is his senior based on their service number. However, his earning is higher than hers because he was enlisted as Regiment or selected as part of Regiment. What do u have to say abt this? Is it the same in the Army?

I don't really know much about the Airforce. But in the army medical corps earn the highest. Meaning if you're a 2nd lieutenant your take home pay would be lower than an NCO who's in the medical field. But as you climb higher and get to ranks like captain, you'll over take them.

Truvelisback:
I guess, the training, right?

SSC training is even tougher than RRI. It's not about the training.

CaptainZubi:
warrant officers are given assignments similar to captains. They are specialists with great experience. Even generals respect them not to talk of a 20 something year old lieutenant who just finished RC, SSC/DSSC. A warrant officer can tell a lieutenant to fvck off and nothing will happen. Infact if you want to enjoy your military career, respect them warrant officers , NCOs (privates - master warrant officers ) are the spinal cord of the army and once they start their craze like this, na you go tire.

Na morality you dey talk here

Can warrant officer discipline lieutenant, in uniform work senior his senior

Nazgul:

Warrant officers are NCO (non commissioned officers) meaning they didn't pass through military college (NDA) and can never be given command of a platoon or battalion. A lieutenant is a CO (commissioned officer) he passed through college would lead a battalion or platoon which has a warrant officer in times of war.

Passing through military college in the army is equivalent of attaining a university degree. Therefore an SSCE holder (be you a private or master warrant) can never be ranked higher than a degree holder regardless of his age.

No mind them

For command no be warrant officer be our RSM, wey AO dey send to go chase student