Nazgul:

Yes they do, you must pass your promotional exams before you can be decorated with the next rank...that's why you see old Majors or old Captains whereras their set are already one star generals and Colonels...they failed out and are missing out as they put it in the army.

But in times of wars, participating in any war is an automatic promotion along with a medal.

Old major or captain are short service people

Mostly medical people

Short service people are on probation for years

KingAzubuike:


Stop saying nonsense.
We are talking about field soldiers here, combatants (mechanized , artillery, armoured, amphibious, infantry , guards brigade). What the warrant officer knows the graduate does not know. There's a reason warrant officers are called specialists and ghosts, they are barely seen only when they are needed in special duties. Just like consultants in medicine. A warrant officer will respect the lieutenant , no doubt but he can also advice the lieutenant and if he loves himself, he should listen to the WO advice. ( I said advice not orders). As a lieutenant and in charge of a platoon, your soldiers are usually more loyal to their warrant officers than even you.

You are the one actually making a Useless fool of yourself...Here you come saying Soldiers are more Loyal to their Warrent officer than a Lieutenant.
I guess i will be downgrading myself to a fool level like you, to even keep arguing such Nonsense.
To even Buttress and Uphold you King of Foolishness you comparing A warrant officer with a Lieutenant , you don't even see a 2nd Lieutenant for such comparisons. For your information a Warrant officer is like the Highest post a NC officer can aquire before retirement. While a 2nd Lieutenant is aiming for a General.
In any battle field the Highest Ranking officer gives Order and he should always be the last man standing to tell the tales unless otherwise happens.
A second lieutenant if he happens to be the highest rank will lead a platoon. If no second Lieutenant a warrant Office should lead.Its cascades down line from A general down to the new recruits

4ward4:


You are the one actually making a Useless fool of yourself...Here you come saying Soldiers are more Loyal to their Warrent officer than a Lieutenant.
I guess i will be downgrading myself to a fool level like you, to even keep arguing such Nonsense.

Use your head. Even if you're not educated, pretend like you are. Don't you know the meaning of loyalty?

A lieutenant which is even a probation rank nahim soldiers go dey loyal to than their warrant officer ? You're just making a fool of yourself. Do you know who a warrant officer is?

lereinter:


Na morality you dey talk here

Can warrant officer discipline lieutenant, in uniform work senior his senior

A warrant officer can never discipline a lieutenant, don't misunderstand me. He go give you your respect full time . If you give him orders, he will obey..

What we are saying is the warrant officer can also turn against some orders from the WO. He will respectfully tell him sir, it's not supposed to be like this. As a lieutenant who is still fresh in your military career, don't fvck with your warrant officer. He go mess you up badly behind the scenes. They get connections die.

lereinter:


No mind them

For command no be warrant officer be our RSM, wey AO dey send to go chase student

AO for command na Captain. If you understand the meaning of RSM, na appointment and that's even an education Corp.

In other corps or in the field or theater of battle, it's a different ball game. Infact the captain go dey hide for warrant officer back dey piss for body.

CaptainZubi:

AO for command na Captain. If you understand the meaning of RSM, na appointment and that's even an education Corp.

In other corps or in the field or theater of battle, it's a different ball game. Infact the captain go dey hide for warrant officer back dey piss for body.

Oga captain if he happens to be the highest officer there doesn't hide.Just like the game of Chess so is the military arranged...Every one less than the captain should engage the Traitor while he the captain organize the formation.It is known that alot is spent to make him a captain and his technical know how is so important .
If the highest is a General and the least is a 2nd Lieutenant in a Battle field. The 2nd Lieutenant must engage the enemies and so it will cascade up to the General. Most often military Wise is advisable for the Highest ranking officer to be guarded out or flown out of the battle field ,once he knows the engagement is having a negative effect on his troops and soon he will be gotten.Reason why they are always honored if at all the choose to die alongside with the troops, why haven't you asked why aren't tye troops always honored and celebrated as much as the Highest commanding officer on the battlefield.. This is because they had the chance to leave.
Just where the saying he who fights and Run , will have any day to fight.

KingAzubuike:

Use your head. Even if you're not educated, pretend like you are. Don't you know the meaning of loyalty?

A lieutenant which is even a probation rank nahim soldiers go dey loyal to than their warrant officer ? You're just making a fool of yourself. Do you know who a warrant officer is?

Are you just been stupid or you choice to be plain foolish . Go and learn properly before engaging me in a such discussion.

Truvelisback:
Matters Arising, CherryCola, ur attention is needed here.

Of course a lieutenant can give order to a warrant officer, but why will one want to do that ? .
Those niggarz Dem are senior men forget rank .

As a lieutenant you wouldn't want to run into trouble with a warrant officer.

KingAzubuike:

SSC training is even tougher than RRI. It's not about the training.

SSC means what? And why is tougher than RRI?

cherryCola:


Of course a lieutenant can give order to a warrant officer, but why will one want to do that ? .
Those niggarz Dem are senior men forget rank .

As a lieutenant you wouldn't want to run into trouble with a warrant officer.

hmmm, i see....They are special. I once met a Warrant officer who was the leader of soldiers under him. I noticed that, of all the commandants abi na Commaders dem dey call am self, sent to that location, he was different. Most of the commanders sent there b4 him were 3Vs rank and something related to the Vs that i can't tell.

4ward4:


Are you just been stupid or you choice to be plain foolish . Go and learn properly before engaging me in a such discussion.

Man, its not everyone that deserve a response, you just have to let some things go... the question is about ORDERS and the guy is talking about loyalty,, the op said can a WO take ORDERS from a LT? The simple answer is Yes because the LT is superior, the WO can only advice him base on experience.. shikena

Jayoungika:
Man, its not everyone that deserve a response, you just have to let some things go... the question is about ORDERS and the guy is talking about loyalty,, the op said can a WO take ORDERS from a LT? The simple answer is Yes because the LT is superior, the WO can only advice him base on experience.. shikena

Thanks Man, some people needs it hard before it sinks in. Both order and Loyalty a WO owes a Lieutenant. But you know as usual, most of this WO are matured folks and are even looking forward to retirement. So in age the Lieutenant respects the WO..But WO shouldn't push it further.

Nazgul:

I don't really know much about the Airforce. But in the army medical corps earn the highest. Meaning if you're a 2nd lieutenant your take home pay would be lower than an NCO who's in the medical field. But as you climb higher and get to ranks like captain, you'll over take them.

What are the duties of a Warrant officer and a lieutenant? I guess their duties would determine who is more special.

All these you are saying here is still sweet.
My own is that if you aren't already in the military, please don't join.Whether RC,SSC,DSSC.

Nigeria is facing so many insurgencies now.It Is the military that bears the brunt.
If you die fighting, numerous soldiers can replace you.But remember, your loved ones can't replace you.

I made the decision to join the military as a young boy in primary 3/4.I gave up the dream last year.Even my elder brother in the army says he will never watch me join.

4ward4:


Thanks Man, some people needs it hard before it sinks in. Both order and Loyalty a WO owes a Lieutenant. But you know as usual, most of this WO are matured folks and are even looking forward to retirement. So in age the Lieutenant respects the WO..But WO shouldn't push it further.

The same thing do happen in the police, A friend of mine in his mid 20s was an ASPII from POLAC, There was a day that an Inspector (about 50 years of age) disrespected and refuse to follow his orders.. The inspector was locked up for 3 days and after several pleas from the superiors, they release him and transfer him to a remote area in Ekiti, the insp. is regretting it till today..

Jayoungika:
The same thing do happen in the police, A friend of mine in his mid 20s was an ASPII from POLAC, There was a day that an Inspector (about 50 years of age) disrespected and refuse to follow his orders.. The inspector was locked up for 3 days and after several pleas from the superiors, they release him and transfer him to a remote area in Ekiti, the insp. is regretting it till today..

Normal levels, reason why if any officer less than a second Lieutenant misbehaved on the road with me, I tell them straight up...No be your fault ,If i been enter NDA then when bois still the hot, you for no even get eyes see me by now...My gees don d enter Captain.

Truvelisback:
What are the duties of a Warrant officer and a lieutenant? I guess their duties would determine who is more special.

A warrant officer and a lieutenant cannot be mentioned in the same context. It's like comparing a bank security who has spent 25 years working in the bank to a fresh graduate who was newly employed. The graduate has every authority over the security man but would accord him some level of respect because of his age.

A warrant officer lives in the junior officers quarters why a lieutenant stays at the senior officers mess. They have nothing in common and a warrant officer would always salute him whenever he sees him. If there is a war, the lieutenant would be given command of a platoon of which the warrant officer would be under, if there's a drill the lieutenant would be the one to order him to mobilize soldiers for the drill. He's a subordinate to the lieutenant, therefore he would never be given a duty that would make him superior to a lieutenant cos he's an SSCE holder, likewise a bank would never assign a role to a security guard that would give him superiority over a graduate it's not possible...

In every division, one warrant officer would be appointed as RSM (Regimental Sergeant Major) but they're still under a lieutenant, because whatever command he's given would comprise of NCOs. A lieutenant is directly under the control of his CO (Commanding officer) and GOC and not an RSM.

In the cooperate world, your degree is what gives you value not your age.

Nazgul:

A warrant officer and a lieutenant cannot be mentioned in the same context. It's like comparing a bank security who has spent 25 years working in the bank to a fresh graduate who was newly employed. The graduate has every authority over the security man but would accord him some level of respect because of his age.

A warrant officer lives in the junior officers quarters why a lieutenant stays at the senior officers mess. They have nothing in common and a warrant officer would always salute him whenever he sees him. If there is a war, the lieutenant would be given command of a platoon of which the warrant officer would be under, if there's a drill the lieutenant would be the one to order him to mobilize soldiers for the drill. He's a subordinate to the lieutenant, therefore he would never be given a duty that would make him superior to a lieutenant cos he's an SSCE holder, likewise a bank would never assign a role to a security guard that would give him superiority over a graduate it's not possible...

In every division, one warrant officer would be appointed as RSM (Regimental Sergeant Major) but they're still under a lieutenant, because whatever command he's given would comprise of NCOs. A lieutenant is directly under the control of his CO (Commanding officer) and GOC and not an RSM.

In the cooperate world, your degree is what gives you value not your age.

Bravo! Excellent emphasis.

Nazgul:

There nothing like Chief warrant officer.

After staff sergeant you have warrant officer, then master warrant officer and finally army warrant officer.

Army warrant officer isn't easily attainable cos you would have reached retirement age before being qualified for the rank. So most NCOs get due for retirement from sergeant to master warrant officer, depending on how well you pass your courses and exams.

Army Warrant Officer many like dis.
Master Warrant Officer many after dis na Army Warrant Officer.We should have up to 5 or more now in d army Now

NewDelhi:
A lieutenant is higher in rank fine but do you think he can give orders to a whole warrant officer?

Depends on the warrant officer level
And where d order come from

4ward4:


Thanks Man, some people needs it hard before it sinks in. Both order and Loyalty a WO owes a Lieutenant. But you know as usual, most of this WO are matured folks and are even looking forward to retirement. So in age the Lieutenant respects the WO..But WO shouldn't push it further.

This one obviously has a brother who is a lieutenant . Lieutenant na even probation rank , no warrant officer even sergeant will take you too serious. Go dey misbehave for warrant officer na see whether you no go regret why you enter aca

4ward4:


Normal levels, reason why if any officer less than a second Lieutenant misbehaved on the road with me, I tell them straight up...No be your fault ,If i been enter NDA then when bois still the hot, you for no even get eyes see me by now...My gees don d enter Captain.

No wonder you dey support them hahaha.. baba don try NDa tire he fail..

Just get this straight and learn ,
Forget rank , a bloody lieutenant no get levels reach a warrant officer. Forget rank or respect whatever. The W/O go give you our compliments in full , he go salute you tire but still , you ain't on the same level. There's a reason they're regarded as specialist.

cherryCola:


Of course a lieutenant can give order to a warrant officer, but why will one want to do that ? .
Those niggarz Dem are senior men forget rank .

As a lieutenant you wouldn't want to run into trouble with a warrant officer.

Wat will they do?

this thread is insightful and enthralling, thanks to those dat contributed,,, I've learn few things today.

KingAzubuike:

This one obviously has a brother who is a lieutenant . Lieutenant na even probation rank , no warrant officer even sergeant will take you too serious. Go dey misbehave for warrant officer na see whether you no go regret why you enter aca

I don tell you before, go research before you go disgrace yourself online one day... if you talk about probation period nah Cadet period be that...Once you are Commisioned or inducted as a 2nd Lieutenant nah only if you break force rules you will be sent parking.
If not you are on your way to become a General if luck shine on you.
Someone said it all using a bank Security and a Banker. if that no explain all to u, I remove my hand.

4ward4:


I don tell you before, go research before you go disgrace yourself online one day... if you talk about probation period nah Cadet period be that...Once you are Commisioned or inducted as a 2nd Lieutenant nah only if you break force rules you will be sent parking.
If not you are on your way to become a General if luck shine on you.
Someone said it all using a bank Security and a Banker. if that no explain all to u, I remove my hand.

Mr Man 2nd lieutenant na probation rank.

CaptainZubi:

Mr Man 2nd lieutenant na probation rank.

That I know already, and nah something a no the last for long provided you diligent in your courses.
But the other guy the say lieutenant nah probation.

sunnx:
In uniform professional job irrespective of your year of service if a commission Officer order a non commission soldier h/she must obey oder, is just that those young boys and girls that went to NDA sometimes do not have respect for soldier that has been in service to twenty years or plus. Uniform work is by rank irrespective the education the person acquired.

Wow you sound like a uniformed personnel

KingAzubuike:

Not a rank.. they are usually enlisted soldiers who were given executive commissioning . EG, a sergeant or warrant officer could be commissioned and given the rank of a captain ..

Rri is regular recruit intake.

Wow are you a soldier

FiremanX:
Wat will they do?

this thread is insightful and enthralling, thanks to those dat contributed,,, I've learn few things today.

Cc Mynd44 lalasticlala, Seun Dominique

Truvelisback:
Thanks for the info. I have really learnt a lot from ur analysis. Last year, i went for the NAF screening and i met a newly recruited personnel. He disclosed certain things to me. He said a female colleague of which they both did (POP) pass out parade together is his senior based on their service number. However, his earning is higher than hers because he was enlisted as Regiment or selected as part of Regiment. What do u have to say abt this? Is it the same in the Army?

Good evening sir,I want to join the airforce how do I go about it
cash needed ?, qualifications.

Cyril009:


Good evening sir,I want to join the airforce how do I go about it
cash needed ?, qualifications.

hmmm, joining the Airforce now ehn! It's not easy ooo. U would need God, connections or luck to enter. Even Navy ghan no easy, Na Army dey fit easily take people. Na Army dey sure pass small of the 3 forces. Just try ur luck. I would advice u choose a State of Origin that has little interest in force.

Truvelisback:
hmmm, joining the Airforce now ehn! It's not easy ooo. U would need God, connections or luck to enter. Even Navy ghan no easy, Na Army dey fit easily take people. Na Army dey sure pass small of the 3 forces. Just try ur luck. I would advice u choose a State of Origin that has little interest in force.

I stay in lagos now,the only academic qualification i have is SSCE read on the website that 5 credits maths and english inclusive i don't have up to 5 credit i think its 3 or 4

is there a way around that ?