beejayodus:
Osinbajo has been very helpless. And that is even why many Christians fear a Muslim-Muslim ticket. I will explain.
If Osinbajo, a Christian VP, can't protect Christians, can two Muslims leaders protect them? That is the fear. Christians will at least feel a little sense of security with a Christian VP.

beejayodus:
Osinbajo has been very helpless. And that is even why many Christians fear a Muslim-Muslim ticket. I will explain.
If Osinbajo, a Christian VP, can't protect Christians, can two Muslims leaders protect them? That is the fear. Christians will at least feel a little sense of security with a Christian VP.

IgOga:


Isn't our current VP not a Christian? How has that made Christians better.....the fact is Bokoharam and iswap are terrorist organisations and have killed more Muslims than any group.....if CAN doesn't like muslim/Muslim that is fine they need to support other candidates....there is no wisdom in coming out against any party....I tell my friends choose whosoever represents you...if apc thinks muslim/Muslim represents them let them test their popularity

diadem10:


You're indirectly saying there's nothing he can do despite being a christian vice president. So what could another christian vice president do since Osinbajo didn't do anything anyway?

Fact is you should be looking beyond religion. Take a look Tinubu's Lagos. Did he supress christian or their right? Heck his wife is a pastor.

beejayodus:
First, Members of CAN are Nigerians like you and I and have the same rights as everyone. No one is more Nigerian that the other. Thus, CAN members have the right to comment and express their thoughts on candidates and parties vying for political positions.

Second, Osinbajo has been very helpless in preventing the killings of Christians. And this is even why CAN is more alarmed by a Muslim-Muslim ticket. In their thinking, if a Christian VP couldn't protect them against Muslim terrorists is it a Muslim President and VP that will provide them such protection? A Christian VP will at least give them a little sense of security.

Third, ISWAP and Boko Haram started off with the killing of Christians. It was much later they started killing Muslims. So, no one can say for certain which other Muslim terrorist group could be emboldened by a Muslim-Muslim Presidency and start targeting Christians.

Lastly, while it is true that there are other parties with a better balanced ticket, the APC being the ruling party is in good position to win the election. Therefore, there is more searchlight on its candidates. I bet you if any other party had fielded a Muslim-Muslim ticket it won't cause so much uproar as the BAT-Shettima ticket is causing.

diadem10:


You're indirectly saying there's nothing he can do despite being a christian vice president. So what could another christian vice president do since Osinbajo didn't do anything anyway?

Fact is you should be looking beyond religion. Take a look Tinubu's Lagos. Did he supress christian or their right? Heck his wife is a pastor.

Goke7:


I thought you guys said apc is finished and cannot win elections again. Contradictions

beejayodus:
I said a Christian VP gives a little sense of security. At least you know you have someone at the table when issues concerning you are being discussed.

On Asiwaju's wife, she is just an appendage to power. When policies and issues that affect all, Christians and Muslims, are being discussed she won't be at the table.

diadem10:


The bulk lies on the president. If Tinubu didn't islamize his wife, he won't do that to anyone. Take a look at his Lagos for example.

Throwback:



You are a disgrace to Christianity.

Jesus wept to see that his efforts to bring salvation was going to be thwarted by the continued existence of Pharisees like yourself.

beejayodus:
I don't believe Tinubu can Islamize anyone. I don't even believe anyone can Islamize Nigeria. What I think is wrong is to flippantly dismiss the fears of those who are speaking out against a Muslim-Muslim ticket. Our realities are different. A Southern Kaduna Nigerian who has seen deaths and destruction caused by Muslim fundamentalists has a genuine right to fear a Muslim-Muslim ticket.

Christians across the length and breadth of Nigeria who have witnessed or are victims of religion inspired violence have a legitimate right to fear a Muslim-Muslim ticket. To dismiss casually their fears is to dismiss their realities. What should be done is to address their fears and point to them why Tinubu and Shettima are different and how they plan to safeguard everybody. That is what should be done. But what I see here is calling ayone who raises a voice of concern an Obidient or a bigot and asking them to vote another party. To me, that isn't fair. And in a numerical contest the more numbers you have the better your chances. So every vote matters

IgOga:
Op most of those you have leading CAN and many pentecostal churches today are sadly not Christians they are business men and pharisees....Jesus said to the pharisees of his day...the tax collectors and sinners left the temple more justified than them......

This is the first time that CAN is behaving like the opposition party in Nigeria....and God forbid if Tinubu wins without their support many of these charlatans calling themselves pastors and Bishops will be exposed for who they really are....there is one naija prophet on YouTube that already predicted the disgrace of many pastors in Nigeria....I think CAN is laying that foundation already....politicians are unforgiving and desperate......

I feel ashamed as a Christian for the rethroric reportedly coming out from CAN and PFN......Young Christians like me may end up suffering for it in the long run

ceede2:
You said it all.
E-side are d one pushing CAN, they leave their primary assignment carry BAT like for head like Galla.

Some of 'em can enjoy freedom for a minute in their land.

IgOga:


If Christians want to vote Christians they are at liberty to do that....you will not find a jew shouting on the rooftop....only vote jew....the Muslim equivalent of CAN has been largely silent....they sure have a view but perhaps applied wisdom....CAN may end up disgracing themselves.....and for the yoruba CAN they will still vote Tinubu on tribal grounds....

What will happen if Tinubu wins without the support of CAN, that is publicly opposing him?....Tinubu isn't Christian and politicians are not known to forgive.....CAN just need to tone it down....if our politics turn to religious tussle....even inec will take a religious stand and we Christians may not survive it

diadem10:

Competence should always take the cake regardless of religion. You won't care about the religion of a doctor who wants to operate on you but care about his competence. If you believed Lagos worked under Tinubu and they weren't islamized, then I dont see what all these is about.

Paulheyman:


Even moslems are speaking out against it. The iwo massacre wasn't it my yoruba people that were murdered in cold blood. This tribal card you always rely on have never led us anywhere.

Gross incompetence in the part of both APC/PDP candidates is the reason behind the actions of both moslem and christian groups but that of APC is far devilish/evil. Imagine with a Christian VP under Buhariii, many christians lost their lives to religious bigotry and yet nothing was done. What happens if both APC candidates are moslems.

Buhariii ushered in a new era of insecurities in Nigeria and tinumboo wants to consolidate on that. What's so beautiful about Buhariii administration that someone wants to build on.

Please if you're not amongst the political elites, their children and associates, please stay off tribalism and ethnicism, we the poor masses always pay for it.

Note: I believe those that use tribalism in politics are politician and their benefactors.

Stay blessed

ElSudani:
These are issues they would rather not discuss
They are more comfortable dishing out their usual lies and misinformation.

Throwback:


When you tell them factual truth that can be verified, they will insist it is lies and propaganda.

It is like trying to teach a donkey how to fly.

Throwback:
Still waiting to see why Tinubu is a threat to Christianity.

Throwback:
Still waiting to see why Tinubu is a threat to Christianity.

IgOga:


Terrorist hide under religion to do evil...Bokoharam started under Obasanjo and they continue to grow in strength...with the NATO bombardment of Libya weapons began to flow to the Sudan and West Africa.....the defeat of isis in Syria and Iraq brought some of these terrorists down to West Africa where they form iswap.....terrorism is not limited to a particular religion...and iswap has killed more Muslims than Christians......unknown gunmen and esn have equally carried out terrorism in the SE....more igbos have died than the nigerian army they claim to be fighting...A Christian president and a Christian VP does not have a magic to stop terrorism... nor will a muslim/Muslim ticket....the USA tried for 20 years in Afghanistan and they cannot stop it......Tribalism isn't a point here.....it is just that the south wants presidency and apc northern governors agreed to that while the pdp want to continue with another northerner......be that as it may I expect the SE to largely vote for Peter Obi and the SW to largely vote for Tinubu.....and NE and NW to vote largely for Atiku, Kwankwanso and Shetimma cos if you say you are tired you will trust your kinsman to handle it better in your favour than an outsider....it is the primordial disposition of humans......

When you want to add religion into the tribalism on ground then we are playing with fire....I travelled around Nigeria while living there and I can tell you nothing starts war than religion....even Jos, the very peaceful city was not spared once religious differences is played up....tribalism always take the back seat.

Paulheyman:


Christians are voting to stay alive and their moslems brothers are supporting them. Allow christians for once to vote for their lives. This election will determine whether Christianity survives in Nigeria i.e if christians will remain alive or not. Religion is the opium of the masses, so half dose of Religion A and half dose of religion B will usher in a balance in the system. This is Nigeria where religion extremism thrive. So, a balance is all that is needed to calm christians fears. Tinumboo failed in his choice, allow him to pay for his mistakes. I lost a family (my pal) in iwo. Till now no justice. What becomes of the christians in iwo if Muslim-Muslim ticket survives. What of the murder of that young innocent girl or the inability of tinumboo to constructively criticize Buhariii administration, just because of his turn. Mehn, what of the drug cases, to crown it all his VP is a Boko Haram apologist/sympathizer. Two of them lacks standards and are grossly incompetent. Why not give us osibanjo (Star boy) instead. Moslems are scared of what'll befall christians if the ticket succeeds and that's why we moslems are not buying it. Christians must vote to stay alive... vote for a balance, vote for your lives

Throwback:
All who have replied have not faulted the candidate, Bola Ahmed Tinubu.

So why not give him a chance to preside over Nigeria with the same liberal and accommodating approach he applied to a diverse Lagos population?

Omoslim26:
Very very weak pro tinubu propaganda
The man is just too desperate for well meaning Nigerians from whatever tribe or religion to trust.
This is not just about the religious tensions we are trying to quell in this Country,it's about respecting the ingredients for unifying the Country with diversities like Nigeria as enshrined in our constitution.
Such agenda that tinubu is pushing for doesn't potray fairness, unity and equity,hence we can all see that tinubu doesn't have any intentions to make our diversities our strength but is ready to sacrifice our unity, tolerance, trust and peace on the sacrificial altar of emilokon.
Nigerians have rejected him already.

Throwback:
This is a direct challenge to my fellow Christians who lived in Lagos during the administration of Bola Ahmed Tinubu.

Did Tinubu persecute or deprive Christians of their rights when he was Governor?

Was there any memorable incident when Christians complained about Tinubu's style of administration?

And for non-Yorubas, was there anytime during the Tinubu regime that you felt oppressed by the government or by policies or initiatives that was against any tribe?

Below are my own positive recollections that I have previously mentioned on this forum.

In summary, vote Peter Obi for President.

Throwback:
This is a direct challenge to my fellow Christians who lived in Lagos during the administration of Bola Ahmed Tinubu.

Did Tinubu persecute or deprive Christians of their rights when he was Governor?

Was there any memorable incident when Christians complained about Tinubu's style of administration?

And for non-Yorubas, was there anytime during the Tinubu regime that you felt oppressed by the government or by policies or initiatives that was against any tribe?

Below are my own positive recollections that I have previously mentioned on this forum.

In summary, vote Peter Obi for President.