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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by austineaddy: 9:37pm On Jul 22, 2022
TheLoneCitizen:
Another year. Another Salon D'or nomination.

Hairy Onyekuru.

His new teammates call him pink panther. Zero focus.


I like the nickname

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Triniti(m): 9:44pm On Jul 22, 2022
Omoh! Plumptre carry thunderbolt for leg
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 9:54pm On Jul 22, 2022
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 10:04pm On Jul 22, 2022
Nicolas Pepe. Timo Werner.

Two players with world-class performances still left in them.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 10:08pm On Jul 22, 2022
5inchdick:

Boss, I'm still waiting for you to acknowledge Jose Peseiro
na foreign coach he no go too like am
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:09pm On Jul 22, 2022
daveP:

First and foremost, you can't put skillset just to the NT. If that skillset exist and its his selling point, then it should be what makes deals come his way.


What are you saying? This start is just totally off.

Zinchenko never played midfield role for Manchester City because of competition for the role. However, in his National team, he owns that role. This is simple logic. You can not bend it.

Kelechi Nwakali has a selling point as a deep-lying playmaker. However, it is difficult to breakthrough into top clubs because of high competition for the role.

The point is so simple and what you are writing here has no relationship to the point.

How many deep lying playmakers do we have in the Super Eagles today? We have cried about this a lot. Haba.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 10:11pm On Jul 22, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
17 y/o Anglo-Nigerian Midfielder, David Ozoh currently balling good for Crystal Palace in their preseason friendly vs Leeds today.

Prospect. wink
if this boy plays for Enyimba, people will tell you he’s 42 years old
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Pidginwhisper: 10:13pm On Jul 22, 2022
Monday wasting goal scoring chances
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:14pm On Jul 22, 2022
daveP:

Then for the national team, he is not indispensable. He can't be getting call ups ahead of players in much much better leagues cos of just skillset. This is the national team.


This is also totally off.

Why do you think Ten Hag is battling for Frenkie De Jong? Why do you think Sarri blocked the move of Jorginho to Manchester City? He wanted that deep-lying skillset and Jorginho ticked the box.

You have midfielders in much much better leagues. No one has ever argued that. The point is, how many of these much much better league players are deep-lying playmakers? None.

Are you going to force Ten Hag, Sarri, or Guardiola to play without deep-lying playmakers? How many coaches abandon their philosophies? That is why new coaches sign, and scout players. Your point is totally off tangent again.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 10:18pm On Jul 22, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
He has a Dutch passport. And Dutch policies restrict folks from having dual nationalities except in few exceptional cases where it cannot be exempted.

Holland is not one of the EU countries that allow dual citizenship.

So Ehizibue switching to us means him renouncing his Dutch passport forever. A Dutch passport that gives him access to over 180 countries without visa unlike the Nigerian passport.... well, that's a kind of a dilemma don't you think? wink


but Ebuehi is Dutch too, did he ditch the passport for ours?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:23pm On Jul 22, 2022
daveP:

First, the hype ish is majorly down to mentions. He is mentioned here more as a messiah of sorts than due to his club issues. Pls, do tell me how that is not hype.

Easy with the excuse for why European clubs are not coming. That's hilarious. You're trying to make me believe that almost all clubs that turn eyes to him are avoiding him cos of his position or what?

FACT. It is difficult for even black players to hold deep-lying playmaker roles in top clubs.

No one tagged Nwakali Messiah in any way. We wanted someone who can play a deep creative role and he is just one of the few we have. That is not a hype but stating his quality.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:27pm On Jul 22, 2022
daveP:

Why we consider it hype, and rightly so, is cos we are making him look like the NT needs him more than he needs the NT.

The coach's tactics. The coach's tactics. Not the National team. If the coach does not want a deep lying playmaker, Kelz Nwakali will hardly get called up.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 10:28pm On Jul 22, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


FACT. It is difficult for even black players to hold deep-lying playmaker roles in top clubs.

No one tagged Nwakali Messiah in any way. We wanted someone who can play a deep creative role and he is just one of the few we have. That is not a hype but stating his quality.


Oga JOE, I wan ask one kwesion kwenu!!!!!

why is it that PEP had been so jealous this transfer window,

letting some of his best players to his rivals
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:32pm On Jul 22, 2022
do4luv14:



Oga JOE, I wan ask one kwesion kwenu!!!!!

why is it that PEP had been so jealous this transfer window,

letting some of his best players to his rivals

We are switching tactics to a more direct strategy. Most teams play us by sitting deep. So we are changing tactics to attack in a more direct fashion. So, wide players are less needed.

Also, preference. Alvarez offers a lot more with respect to supporting building play. Finally, high conversion rate. Haaland has good goal conversion rate to fit the direct play.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 10:33pm On Jul 22, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


We are switching tactics to a more direct strategy. Most teams play us by sitting deep. So we are changing tactics to attack in a more direct fashion. So, wide players are less needed.

Also, preference. Alvarez offers a lot more with respect to supporting building play. Finally, high conversion rate. Haaland has good goal conversion rate to fit the direct play.



hmmm OK ooo,

but it's unlike Pep
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 10:37pm On Jul 22, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


The coach's tactics. The coach's tactics. Not the National team. If the coach does not want a deep lying playmaker, Kelz Nwakali will hardly get called up.
And at club level?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 10:39pm On Jul 22, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


FACT. It is difficult for even black players to hold deep-lying playmaker roles in top clubs.

No one tagged Nwakali Messiah in any way. We wanted someone who can play a deep creative role and he is just one of the few we have. That is not a hype but stating his quality.
It's more than stating quality since his name has been mentioned here. Fact. If it is merely stating quality, then Onyeka and not Nwakali should ve getting the hype on here. Whether it's coach tactics or not.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 10:41pm On Jul 22, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


This is also totally off.

Why do you think Ten Hag is battling for Frenkie De Jong? Why do you think Sarri blocked the move of Jorginho to Manchester City? He wanted that deep-lying skillset and Jorginho ticked the box.

You have midfielders in much much better leagues. No one has ever argued that. The point is, how many of these much much better league players are deep-lying playmakers? None.

Are you going to force Ten Hag, Sarri, or Guardiola to play without deep-lying playmakers? How many coaches abandon their philosophies? That is why new coaches sign, and scout players. Your point is totally off tangent again.
Lol. So since its all about blocks, who is blocking him from getting good deals?

I wonder who is off right now.

See what you're doing just to attribute credence to Nwakali.... downplaying other players with style. This guy must be the new messi or pirlo

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 10:47pm On Jul 22, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


What are you saying? This start is just totally off.

Zinchenko never played midfield role for Manchester City because of competition for the role. However, in his National team, he owns that role. This is simple logic. You can not bend it.

Kelechi Nwakali has a selling point as a deep-lying playmaker. However, it is difficult to breakthrough into top clubs because of high competition for the role.

The point is so simple and what you are writing here has no relationship to the point.

How many deep lying playmakers do we have in the Super Eagles today? We have cried about this a lot. Haba.
Still back to selling point. Let me use same Zinchenko against your angle-Is that not a fact of versatility rather than opportunity? Does Kelz has such that it makes him such a hard one to ignore? Saka is another example of versatility. If that is all he has and it's making him go down the ladder, he should upgrade. Infact many of our midfielders in the NT are versatile. Deep playing since. I don taya abeg. He's not the only one around. Little messi okoro sef no reach this one.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:50pm On Jul 22, 2022
daveP:
Lol. So since its all about blocks, who is blocking him from getting good deals?

I wonder who is off right now.

See what you're doing just to attribute credence to Nwakali.... downplaying other players with style. This guy must be the new messi or pirlo

I do not get you.

There are loads of deep-lying playmakers in Europe. Loads.

Manchester City - Rodri
Chelsea - Jorginho (Kovacic to an extent)
Arsenal - El Neny and Xhaka
Liverpool - Thiago Alcantara
Tottenham - Hojberg
West Ham - Declan Rice

It goes on like that to lower leagues. So, the competition is much and Nwakali needs to build himself to try to break in.

Come on, you must understand the point.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Towbaba500(m): 10:52pm On Jul 22, 2022
Omoo, super falcons lost their third place match again. I don't think this coach has anything to offer moving forward o.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 10:53pm On Jul 22, 2022
Can we all now agree that Amaju Pinnick's administration is the worst ever seen by Nigerian Football?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 10:55pm On Jul 22, 2022
Dybala has broken Ronaldo's record for most jerseys sold in a day in Italy.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 10:57pm On Jul 22, 2022
TheLoneCitizen:
Another year. Another Salon D'or nomination.

Hairy Onyekuru.

His new teammates call him pink panther. Zero focus.
I think he is now catching cruise with football. grin grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:58pm On Jul 22, 2022
daveP:
Still back to selling point. Let me use same Zinchenko against your angle-Is that not a fact of versatility rather than opportunity? Does Kelz has such that it makes him such a hard one to ignore? Saka is another example of versatility. If that is all he has and it's making him go down the ladder, he should upgrade. Infact many of our midfielders in the NT are versatile. Deep playing since. I don taya abeg. He's not the only one around. Little messi okoro sef no reach this one.


You are just over the place. If you want to talk of versatility, systems also play a role. By the way, Saka is not a deep-lying playmaker and has no relationship with the point.

The point is simple. Deep creative role is highly competitive. Finito.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 11:00pm On Jul 22, 2022
AIG07:
Can we all now agree that Amaju Pinnick's administration is the worst ever seen by Nigerian Football?
jihday come and see something grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:00pm On Jul 22, 2022
Towbaba500:
Omoo, super falcons lost their third place match again. I don't think this coach has anything to offer moving forward o.

We should ease off on the coach a bit. The players stopped training because of backlogs of bonuses. It had a chance it would affect the team.

We need to fix our administrative efforts.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 11:04pm On Jul 22, 2022
AIG07:
Can we all now agree that Amaju Pinnick's administration is the worst ever seen by Nigerian Football?

What does Amaju Pinnick have to do with this

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 11:04pm On Jul 22, 2022
TheLoneCitizen:
Vintage Iwobi had Wenger crying.

https://mobile.twitter.com/D20048/status/1550117354918404096
I think it was that Laca miss though. But that pass from Alex was just wow....part of the reasons I was so sad when we sold him.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 11:05pm On Jul 22, 2022
Roma may finish ahead of Napoli this season

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 11:08pm On Jul 22, 2022
Towbaba500:
Omoo, super falcons lost their third place match again. I don't think this coach has anything to offer moving forward o.
make una free the coach please. He was not the one that miss 3 clear chances.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 11:09pm On Jul 22, 2022
TheLoneCitizen:


Malcom wasn't impressive to me against united. Just sharp and lively.

Impressive is that Zidane lad.
iqbal is golden

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