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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 11:33pm On Jul 26, 2022
Android17:
They owe him money too and it is easier to negotiate when you have an advantage which he currently does. Until they agree in writing about how they'll pay him the 17M or so owed, he does not have to leave. I am pretty sure he tried to buy Ole's house in Manchester which implies that he is considering playing for your team.
It's reported that he has agreed to Barca's 50% paycut offer to stay.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Android17: 11:37pm On Jul 26, 2022
MRTA7:
It's reported that he has agreed to Barca's 50% paycut offer to stay.
I doubt all these stories partly because I know Laporta and his propaganda media cronies. They tried this same game with Bernardo and Pep had to come out to shut it down.

De Jong's salary was crazy from the jump but taking the pay cut was never his issue. I believe he earned 3M per year for the first 2 years or past 2 years of his contract. He is rich enough to survive on that which is still less than 50% of his current salary. But Barcelona promised him that things would have looked up by 2022 and that they would pay him 17M for this year alone. Even if he agrees to take 50% of it, it will still be money he deserves - before leaving the club that is.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 1:15am On Jul 27, 2022
Illimitable:
He doesn’t want to play in Europa.

The Europa league that was forced on United fans by that Norwegian fraud.
He already played Europa last season when Barcelona failed to qualify from their UCL group.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 1:34am On Jul 27, 2022
Illimitable:
The club’s money that doesn’t get spent is converted to dividends that buy yachts and helicopters for the Glazer kids.

They spent money on Maguire and Pogba and so what? The club makes £600m every year. So what’s the big deal in spending on Pogba or Maguire?

Pep has replaced every player in his squad bar De Bruyne. He arrived in the summer of 2016.

Do you know how many players United still have in their squad that was here before the summer of 2016?

That’s the difference in the ambition of both clubs.
The club will pay dividends whether we spend or not.. football is a business, if they buy yacht with their money that is none of our business.. man united does not spend is a myth, rather unstrategic and over spending, is what put us in this mess.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 1:35am On Jul 27, 2022
Illimitable:
The club’s money that doesn’t get spent is converted to dividends that buy yachts and helicopters for the Glazer kids.

They spent money on Maguire and Pogba and so what? The club makes £600m every year. So what’s the big deal in spending on Pogba or Maguire?

Pep has replaced every player in his squad bar De Bruyne. He arrived in the summer of 2016.

Do you know how many players United still have in their squad that was here before the summer of 2016?

That’s the difference in the ambition of both clubs.
And we have spent more than city since then.. check.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 1:57am On Jul 27, 2022
Android17:
They owe him money too and it is easier to negotiate when you have an advantage which he currently does. Until they agree in writing about how they'll pay him the 17M or so owed, he does not have to leave. I am pretty sure he tried to buy Ole's house in Manchester which implies that he is considering playing for your team.
He can take Barca to court and win even if he's no more their player. Or is there something in the contract that cancels all outstanding debt if he leaves the club?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Frankfuse: 5:58am On Jul 27, 2022
eph12:
He can take Barca to court and win even if he's no more their player. Or is there something in the contract that cancels all outstanding debt if he leaves the club?
If he leaves, the deferred wages can’t be paid to him again
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 6:01am On Jul 27, 2022
Frankfuse:
If he leaves, the deferred wages can’t be paid to him again
Source?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by melodyogonna(m): 6:47am On Jul 27, 2022
Illimitable:
He doesn’t want to play in Europa.

The Europa league that was forced on United fans by that Norwegian fraud.
Lmao who be this? Ralf Uwazuruike nko?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Frankfuse: 7:22am On Jul 27, 2022
eph12:
Source?
That’s because they deferred wages was renegotiated to be paid as an increase in his future salary, not as an outright payment.

So the day he signs for another club. Barca can’t pay him salary again thereby forfeiting the deferred wages
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 8:45am On Jul 27, 2022
Illimitable:
He can forfeit what they owe him. Herrera bought out his contract at Bilbao to join United while De Jong wants to remain stuck with salary issues.

Barcelona owe him and yet they continue to buy players? With which money? Barca will never pay the money they owe De Jong.
I know some people here who think players can't buy their contract, but i won't mention names...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:45am On Jul 27, 2022
Frankfuse:
That’s because they deferred wages was renegotiated to be paid as an increase in his future salary, not as an outright payment.

So the day he signs for another club. Barca can’t pay him salary again thereby forfeiting the deferred wages
This makes sense though I have been searching for any sort of source, but can't find.

If that's the case, there's no chance Manchester United will sign him.

When you say increase in his future salary, when does this future start for him exactly? Is it this year, next year, or when?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m):
Frankfuse:
If he leaves, the deferred wages can’t be paid to him again
You guys should dead this owing him wages yarns, De Jong rejected United because of Europa League. If it was about deferred wages, you think United would not have worked it out with Barcelona since 3 month this nonsense saga started? Ten Hag should continue wasting United time chasing him, while other quality midfielders are being signed by other serious teams....
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 9:00am On Jul 27, 2022
Frankfuse:
That’s because they deferred wages was renegotiated to be paid as an increase in his future salary, not as an outright payment.

So the day he signs for another club. Barca can’t pay him salary again thereby forfeiting the deferred wages
Another angu, this actually make sense. United should have worked out a structure in the transfer fee that would help cover it, and add it to De Jong wage...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 9:46am On Jul 27, 2022
TrebleChamp:
Another angu, this actually make sense. United should have worked out a structure in the transfer fee that would help cover it, and add it to De Jong wage...
United did. According to Fabrizio we originally agreed €65m + 20m add ons. We upped it to €75m guaranteed plus 10m addons to help the deal. Although that doesn't seem to cover the whole amount owed it's more than half but I guess Barcelona aren't willing to cover the rest.

Let's not kid ourselves though. He's not in a hurry to come to United. This much is a fact.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristineC: 10:17am On Jul 27, 2022
we should have moved on. I have not really watched this de Jong but it's not like we are chasing Messi. he could move here and still flop.

I think Ten Hag is trying to keep faith with Zidane, Charlie, Hannibal and Garner to push Fred, VDB and McT. surely they can't all fail right undecided

we need reinforcement upfront. I think that's our weakest area right now.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 10:18am On Jul 27, 2022
LostMyZeal:
Pogmentary in the mud cheesy
Anyway, na free transfer
why d hate? anybody can be injured at any time.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BlaqFaze: 10:36am On Jul 27, 2022
TrebleChamp:
Another angu, this actually make sense. United should have worked out a structure in the transfer fee that would help cover it, and add it to De Jong wage...
One of terms United laid in other to convince him... salary is NOT the issue, i don't know why United fans don't want to tell themselves the truth
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 11:02am On Jul 27, 2022
BlaqFaze:
One of terms United laid in other to convince him... salary is NOT the issue, i don't know why United fans don't want to tell themselves the truth
But Barcelona have themselves come out to say that FDj's salary is an issue and that it has to be renegotiated?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by andrewbaba44: 12:51pm On Jul 27, 2022
Leyqute:
He already played Europa last season when Barcelona failed to qualify from their UCL group.
I play Europa league this season no mean say I wan play am the following season .
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BlaqFaze: 1:18pm On Jul 27, 2022
MRTA7:
But Barcelona have themselves come out to say that FDj's salary is an issue and that it has to be renegotiated?
Everyone at Barca is being asked to take a pay cut(if they're staying)... salary issue is NOT blocking De Jong's move, he simply wants to play in the UCL, something United can't provide.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MRTA7: 1:38pm On Jul 27, 2022
BlaqFaze:
Everyone at Barca is being asked to take a pay cut(if they're staying)... salary issue is NOT blocking De Jong's move, he simply wants to play in the UCL, something United can't provide.
He wants to stay at Barcelona. Which he has made very clear. I dont know where you're getting the he wants to play UCL thing from.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by andrewbaba44: 1:45pm On Jul 27, 2022
So Ronaldo wants Man U to extend his contract and go on loan to play champions league football then return back to Manchester United hoping they would have qualified for the Champions league the following season ?

Same Ronaldo some people Dey defend here ?

Ronaldo no rate Man U and una self no rate una club

Smh
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Trevor012(m): 1:47pm On Jul 27, 2022
andrewbaba44:
So Ronaldo wants Man U to extend his contract and go on loan to play champions league football then return back to Manchester United hoping they would have qualified for the Champions league the following season ?

Same Ronaldo some people Dey defend here ?

Ronaldo no rate Man U and una self no rate una club

Smh
Mr man keep quiet and Ronaldo issues with United should not concern you.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by andrewbaba44: 1:50pm On Jul 27, 2022
Trevor012:
Mr man keep quiet and Ronaldo issues with United should not concern you.
But de Jong issues with Barca concern you ?

Be there defending Ronaldo that doesn’t rate your club

Mugu
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Trevor012(m): 1:52pm On Jul 27, 2022
andrewbaba44:
But de Jong issues with Barca concern you ?

Be there defending Ronaldo that doesn’t rate your club

Mugu
I repeat shut up and leave Ronaldo issues with United out of your dirty mouth.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by obonujoker(m): 1:55pm On Jul 27, 2022
andrewbaba44:
So Ronaldo wants Man U to extend his contract and go on loan to play champions league football then return back to Manchester United hoping they would have qualified for the Champions league the following season ?

Same Ronaldo some people Dey defend here ?

Ronaldo no rate Man U and una self no rate una club

Smh
When will you talk about Pessi undecided
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by andrewbaba44: 1:59pm On Jul 27, 2022
obonujoker:
When will you talk about Pessi undecided
He is not being rejected all over Europe ,he didn’t drag his team from a champions league team to Europa league

Thank you .
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BlaqFaze: 1:59pm On Jul 27, 2022
obonujoker:
When will you talk about Pessi undecided
When Penaldo finds a new club cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 2:00pm On Jul 27, 2022
andrewbaba44:
So Ronaldo wants Man U to extend his contract and go on loan to play champions league football then return back to Manchester United hoping they would have qualified for the Champions league the following season ?

Same Ronaldo some people Dey defend here ?

Ronaldo no rate Man U and una self no rate una club

Smh
Why should Ronaldo put up with the lack of standards currently at Man Utd? He’s Mr Champions League. He told Man Utd from the off that he doesn’t want to come here, make huge salary and finish 5th or 6th.

United forfeited an entire season in October when they kept on persisting with the Norwegian fraud. When the results got embarrassing to the point that fans walked out of OT in the middle of a game, they decided to sack Ole and they brought in a replacement.

The replacement asked for some signings to level up, the board refused. Rangnick later said the recruitment this summer should be huge and that maybe 10 new players would be needed. United have only bought 3 or 4 players and 8 players have departed.

If you are Cristiano, does this look to you like an ambition to compete with City or Liverpool? The season hasn’t even started and everyone already knows United cannot win the PL next season. That’s the lack of standards that is pissing Ronaldo off. Man Utd could have made a statement in the transfer market by bringing in at least 8 tier-A players to compete.

Why should Ronaldo waste his final years of his career playing for 5th or 6th? He scored the most goals for the club last season. He won PFA player of the month twice(highest in the country), he scored the most goals against the top 5 teams in the entire division. If the other dross players in the team contributed as much as he did, United would have finished 2nd or 3rd.

I support any decision he makes. He has been betrayed by Man Utd.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BlaqFaze: 2:01pm On Jul 27, 2022
MRTA7:
He wants to stay at Barcelona. Which he has made very clear. I dont know where you're getting the he wants to play UCL thing from.
Ok...so how is his alleged salary issue the problem blocking him from a Man u transfer undecided
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by andrewbaba44: 2:05pm On Jul 27, 2022
Illimitable:
Why should Ronaldo put up with the lack of standards currently at Man Utd? He’s Mr Champions League. He told Man Utd from the off that he doesn’t want to come here, make huge salary and finish 5th or 6th.

United forfeited an entire season in October when they kept on persisting with the Norwegian fraud. When the results got embarrassing to the point that fans walked out of OT in the middle of a game, they decided to sack Ole and they brought in a replacement.

The replacement asked for some signings to level up, the board refused. Rangnick later said the recruitment this summer should be huge and that maybe 10 new players would be needed. United have only bought 3 or 4 players and 8 players have departed.

If you are Cristiano, does this look to you like an ambition to compete with City or Liverpool? The season hasn’t even started and everyone already knows United cannot win the PL next season. That’s the lack of standards that is pissing Ronaldo off. Man Utd could have made a statement in the transfer market by bringing in at least 8 tier-A players to compete.

Why should Ronaldo waste his final years of his career playing for 5th or 6th? He scored the most goals for the club last season. He won PFA player of the month twice(highest in the country), he scored the most goals against the top 5 teams in the entire division. If the other dross players in the team contributed as much as he did, United would have finished 2nd or 3rd.

I support any decision he makes. He has been betrayed by Man Utd.
He has been betrayed by Man U by dragging the team to Europa league ? Interesting

No club Kuku want am ,so he might be forced to stay

Why can’t Man U allow that man leave ,Man U will always be Man U ,player wey no value the club ,make una Dey lick him ass Dey go as e go Dey rub una face for ground grin
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