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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 8:44pm On Jul 27, 2022
ChristoBam:
Omo, you just dey yarn another thing.

How much do these clubs bring in compared to United? We don't need to inject laundered money since we make crazy money every year.

It's that simple. We're not city. We're not Chelsea. We're Fvcking Manchester United.
Hehe, these clubs spend dirty money, we don’t have dirty to spend and we have matched them in terms of spending. You still want us to spend more so we can go bankrupt or so we can get to the point where we would have to sell a stake to a Hedge Fund that will take 30 percent of your cash flows at source?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:45pm On Jul 27, 2022
nitrogen:
Barca had to sell a part of their rights to future revenues to fund the club’s activities. The club owes 1.1 billion pounds because of financial irresponsibility.

I will give you a list of clubs that went under because of financial issues and had to strive to get back to the top. It took them over 10 years to. Some are still in the trenches as we speak. Leeds, AC Milan, Parma FC, etc.

Regarding players, unfortunately, our managers asked for them. How is that the owner’s fault? If they don’t buy players for a manager, you will still complain.
You are comparing Man Utd to these hapless clubs. You do yourself a disservice with such lines of arguments.

United make the most money in England, they have the highest capacity stadium, make the highest from the gates, etc. There’s no way a club like Man Utd can go under.

The argument here is that the £1 billion taken from the club by the Glazers could have been re-invested back into the club in player signings, stadium renovation and what not but those useless parasites took it to service loans and they took dividends.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 8:47pm On Jul 27, 2022
The Manchester United Starting XI that faced Wrexham today: Kovar; Laird, Varane, Martínez, Telles, Iqbal, Garner, Eriksen, Chong, Hannibal, Garnacho.

They won 4 - 1...... behind closed Door.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 8:55pm On Jul 27, 2022
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristoBam: 9:04pm On Jul 27, 2022
nitrogen:
Hehe, these clubs spend dirty money, we don’t have dirty to spend and we have matched them in terms of spending. You still want us to spend more so we can go bankrupt or so we can get to the point where we would have to sell a stake to a Hedge Fund that will take 30 percent of your cash flows at source?
You don't get the point! The Glaziers put us into this situation and that's what we've been saying from the beginning.

How can you say spending a lot more on transfers will make us go bankrupt when more than €1 Billion has gone into their debts and dividends? We were debt free before these fvckers took over. There's no escaping the fact we got into debt and a lot of our revenue go into debt repayment because of these guys.

These clubs use dirty money because they don't have the revenues we have and they're trying to compete financially with us.

The reason they're successful is they splash the money until they see the success.

United will back Ten Hag financially for max of two summers. And leave him to hang after. That's how they balance their finance. How do we get sucess with this?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 9:06pm On Jul 27, 2022
ovoP:
mention 7 quality players this window that we could have gotten.. the new coach obviously believes in a lot of these old players, he's not been forced to use them..
I don't think this is what I reacted to. You said buying these players is to appease Ronaldo and not for the club. You didn't question if there are 7 quality players we could have gotten. You instead implied that going after those quality players will be because of Ronaldo, and not that the club is in serious need of those players


The new coach believes in a lot of these old players? What about the report we heard the other day that claims otherwise?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristoBam: 9:08pm On Jul 27, 2022
Nitogen definitely knows that Glaziers are parasites, sucking the life out of the club.

But for whatever reason, he's sticking to their defense.

I hope you're not one of those that see themselves in the position of the Glaziers in years? I know people like that. Think they'll become billionaires so mount a defence against anyone attacking Billionaires. No dey whine yourself sha.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 9:09pm On Jul 27, 2022
eph12:
I don't think this is what I reacted to. You said buying these players is to appease Ronaldo and not for the club. You didn't question if there are 7 quality players we could have gotten. You instead implied that going after those quality players will be because of Ronaldo, and not that the club is in serious need of those players
I was trying to explain its a gradual process, and we should not be bullied into buying 7 players at once because of a 37 year old..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 9:12pm On Jul 27, 2022
ovoP:
I was trying to explain its a gradual process, and we should not be bullied into buying 7 players at once because of a 37 year old..
I'm still wondering why you think this club should not be bullied into buying 7 players at once, when its for the club benefit. Or just maybe your real problem is the 37 years old person, and not the buying of players
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristoBam: 9:13pm On Jul 27, 2022
For ETH to become successful under the Glaziers, he'll need extreme good luck.

The kind of luck that presented Arnold to Klopp. Or allowed VVD to be available at the point they wanted a CB.

1) Luck
2) Financial backing
3) Great system.

That's what he'll need to be successful under these parasites called Glaziers.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 9:18pm On Jul 27, 2022
ChristoBam:
Nitogen definitely knows that Glaziers are parasites, sucking the life out of the club.

But for whatever reason, he's sticking to their defense.

I hope you're not one of those that see themselves in the position of the Glaziers in years? I know people like that. Think they'll become billionaires so mount a defence against anyone attacking Billionaires. No dey whine yourself sha.
You are OYO. I don’t care if they are billionaires. I just hate it when people that have not run a business before suggest or tell people that run empires and multi-billion businesses what to do.

I run businesses and manage funds for myself and for others, so, I know what’s going on. You guys just think it’s about spending and spending. It’s beyond that. There are several moving parts!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 9:19pm On Jul 27, 2022
ChristoBam:
For ETH to become successful under the Glaziers, he'll need extreme good luck.

The kind of luck that presented Arnold to Klopp. Or allowed VVD to be available at the point they wanted a CB.

1) Luck
2) Financial backing
3) Great system.

That's what he'll need to be successful under these parasites called Glaziers.
The owners are not parasites. Also, the only thing ETH needs is luck. He has his own system and he’s got financial backing.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 9:21pm On Jul 27, 2022
ChristoBam:
You don't get the point! The Glaziers put us into this situation and that's what we've been saying from the beginning.

How can you say spending a lot more on transfers will make us go bankrupt when more than €1 Billion has gone into their debts and dividends? We were debt free before these fvckers took over. There's no escaping the fact we got into debt and a lot of our revenue go into debt repayment because of these guys.

These clubs use dirty money because they don't have the revenues we have and they're trying to compete financially with us.

The reason they're successful is they splash the money until they see the success.

United will back Ten Hag financially for max of two summers. And leave him to hang after. That's how they balance their finance. How do we get sucess with this?
Dividend is less than 150m, which means they have not taken out a lot as such.

Btw, go check what financial leverage means and what it does to a business/company.

Finally, if any fan is not happy with the owners, he/she should go support another club until the owners sell. Simple!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ovoP(m): 9:21pm On Jul 27, 2022
eph12:
I'm still wondering why you think this club should not be bullied into buying 7 players at once, when its for the club benefit. Or just maybe your real problem is the 37 years old person, and not the buying of players
my point is if we're buying 7 players, we're not going to get 7 quality players out there..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ellexy: 9:52pm On Jul 27, 2022
Meanwhile...

Cristiano Ronaldo has informed #mufc that he wishes to be relinquished of his contract #mulive [simon jones, mail]

The audacity grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristoBam: 10:19pm On Jul 27, 2022
nitrogen:
You are OYO. I don’t care if they are billionaires. I just hate it when people that have not run a business before suggest or tell people that run empires and multi-billion businesses what to do.

I run businesses and manage funds for myself and for others, so, I know what’s going on. You guys just think it’s about spending and spending. It’s beyond that. There are several moving parts!
What's going on is clear and obvious. The debt they've plunged the club in is clear and obvious. People run businesses mostly for their personal gain. Manchester United is a football club held to heart by millions of fans all over the world.

We're supposed to watch on and shut up cuz we don't run million dollar empire but the ones that do are turning the club into a money making machine for themselves and running the football side into the ground?

You don't even know what you're saying. Without the Glaziers, only God knows what heights we'd have reached by now. If we were in debt, it'd be because we've invested crazy money into players and a stadium.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 10:34pm On Jul 27, 2022
ChristoBam:
What's going on is clear and obvious. The debt they've plunged the club in is clear and obvious. People run businesses mostly for their personal gain. Manchester United is a football club held to heart by millions of fans all over the world.

We're supposed to watch on and shut up cuz we don't run million dollar empire but the ones that do are turning the club into a money making machine for themselves and running the football side into the ground?

You don't even know what you're saying. Without the Glaziers, only God knows what heights we'd have reached by now. If we were in debt, it'd be because we've invested crazy money into players and a stadium.
Man Utd is a business first, football club second. It was the other way round before the 21st century.

Tell me why Facebook, instagram are businesses even though billions of people cherish and use both platforms?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 10:35pm On Jul 27, 2022
ChristoBam:
What's going on is clear and obvious. The debt they've plunged the club in is clear and obvious. People run businesses mostly for their personal gain. Manchester United is a football club held to heart by millions of fans all over the world.

We're supposed to watch on and shut up cuz we don't run million dollar empire but the ones that do are turning the club into a money making machine for themselves and running the football side into the ground?

You don't even know what you're saying. Without the Glaziers, only God knows what heights we'd have reached by now. If we were in debt, it'd be because we've invested crazy money into players and a stadium.
No one can tell. You don’t know if we would be battling relegation with other small clubs (post Fergie era).
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristoBam: 11:11pm On Jul 27, 2022
nitrogen:
Man Utd is a business first, football club second. It was the other way round before the 21st century.

Tell me why Facebook, instagram are businesses even though billions of people cherish and use both platforms?
Man just compared Manchester Utd to Facebook.

That your first statement is why the Glaziers are bast*rds. I'm not even going to argue with you on that. It's the effect of years of Glaziers. It's now Business first and football after. For the profit of a family.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristoBam: 11:12pm On Jul 27, 2022
nitrogen:
No one can tell. You don’t know if we would be battling relegation with other small clubs (post Fergie era).
You're like a Nazi German defending Hitler.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 11:44pm On Jul 27, 2022
ChristoBam:
Man just compared Manchester Utd to Facebook.

That your first statement is why the Glaziers are bast*rds. I'm not even going to argue with you on that. It's the effect of years of Glaziers. It's now Business first and football after. For the profit of a family.
Lool, everything is business these days. It’s the oil that keeps the engine running. No one can deny the fact that football is now a very big business. Fans will only continue to be emotional, and football club owners will continue to cash out either through distributions or capital appreciation (except money launderers). It is what it is!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 11:51pm On Jul 27, 2022
ChristoBam:
Man just compared Manchester Utd to Facebook.

That your first statement is why the Glaziers are bast*rds. I'm not even going to argue with you on that. It's the effect of years of Glaziers. It's now Business first and football after. For the profit of a family.
….and why can’t I compare both? Man Utd is selling a product to us the fans, Facebook is also selling a product, Infact, Facebook’s product appeals to almost everyone that’s why billions are using the platform vs Utd that has a section of football fans. There is a reason commercializations are happening, and the club is spending a lot on marketing and adverts. Also, there is a reason major brands are using football to talk about their products.

This is beyond you in every aspect. Live with it!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 12:05am On Jul 28, 2022
ChristoBam:
Which team was at our level 20 years ago that dissapeared?

The mental gymnastics going into defending the Glaziers.
That talk was pure poppycock. 20 years ago, United were at the top of the food chain…the richest club in the world and were higher than the likes of Madrid, Bayern and Barcelona.

The glazers came in and ruined the club.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:09am On Jul 28, 2022
Let's get one thing clear, it's not the lack of spending that's the problem but the lack of a coordinated structure in place to ensure we get the right players for the right value...Even if we had spent £3bn in the last 10 years, it simply would have seen us pay £50m more for for the likes of Pogba, Maguire, Bruno etc...

The biggest problem is the management structure where we have too many square pegs in round holes and not necessarily the amount spent as we have kept pace with the rest of Europe in that aspect (Amount spent)...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 1:39am On Jul 28, 2022
ChristoBam:
Nitogen definitely knows that Glaziers are parasites, sucking the life out of the club.

But for whatever reason, he's sticking to their defense.

I hope you're not one of those that see themselves in the position of the Glaziers in years? I know people like that. Think they'll become billionaires so mount a defence against anyone attacking Billionaires. No dey whine yourself sha.
grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:49am On Jul 28, 2022
ovoP:
my point is if we're buying 7 players, we're not going to get 7 quality players out there..
No that's not your point. You've continuously made it clear that it's about the 37 years old player
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TeslaFC: 5:47am On Jul 28, 2022
Oasis007:
Lisandro on Erik ten Hag: "I was with him three years at Ajax and I know his style of playing. With him, I improved a lot, to be honest. He’s here in Manchester now, so again the opportunity was there and for sure he’s very important in my [career]."
Can he play as a DM?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 5:52am On Jul 28, 2022
TeslaFC:
Can he play as a DM?
He's a CB, precisely LCB and he's signed to play as a CB. Board should spend on getting a DM, the Era of forcing players to play in another position in the name of versatility should be gone!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 7:02am On Jul 28, 2022
patrickmuf:
Let's get one thing clear, it's not the lack of spending that's the problem but the lack of a coordinated structure in place to ensure we get the right players for the right value...Even if we had spent £3bn in the last 10 years, it simply would have seen us pay £50m more for for the likes of Pogba, Maguire, Bruno etc...

The biggest problem is the management structure where we have too many square pegs in round holes and not necessarily the amount spent as we have kept pace with the rest of Europe in that aspect (Amount spent)...
The spending was a part of it. People have short memories.

When the system was in place with Fergie and David Gill. They refused to spend money.

Fergie created lots of excuses for them and had to recall Scholes from retirement to plug the hole in midfield.

It was when the system was gone with SAF and David Gill and they started missing out on UCL money that they started throwing money at the problem. This way they’ll get UCL football and… you guessed it - more money.

If the Glazers could make more money without investing in player transfers, trust me, they will. After all, that’s what they were doing before SAF left.

Man Utd is a badly run club because of the Glazers greed and blindness to everything else apart from money.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by andrewbaba44: 7:37am On Jul 28, 2022
Illimitable:
Greenwood - 5 PL goals
Rashford - 4 PL goals
Elanga - 2 PL goals
Martial - 1 PL goal

Brainless fans.

Every United player should wash Ronaldo’s jersey, clean his cars, shine his boots, do some of his house chores.

He’s 37 and was by far the best player in the squad last season. What does that say about the dross you people are trusting to compete this season?
Yakubu aiyegbeni will outscore these players you mentioned ,if they share the same team .
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by andrewbaba44: 7:38am On Jul 28, 2022
ChristoBam:
Lmao I'm not going to start arguments about the team attack works with Ronaldo in the team. All I'm going to say is there's a reason those teams with a good attacking system don't want Ronaldo in their team. There's a reason only Athletico that plays Boko Haram football even looked like they were probably going to consider it.


Guy scored 18 goals in the league last season so why's Bayern and every other club not all over it? But they'll all take Kane even if it's just for a year on stupid wages.

.Even United with our stupidity and all weren't interested in the deal till they heard he was going to City(desperately needed a striker, even thought of Lukaku).


E get why
Even Sevilla will reject Ronaldo

Athletico didn’t look like self ,he was rejected there

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by andrewbaba44: 7:43am On Jul 28, 2022
Jodera:
Ronaldo is bigger than Man u?? grin grin grin grin grin
Just imagine

Ronaldo bigger than Man U cheesy
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