johnyace:
I believe WB has or had a plan for the DCEU after the the flash releases, but I believe that they aren't confident in that plan because if the flash movie fails to sell it to the fans, that would probably be the end of the DCEU.

For me stuff like bringing back Keaton and not knowing what is going on with Superman, spells doom for whatever plans that they have.

Affleck has shown time and time again that he is still willing to play Batman, if they needed an older Batman to play mentor to Batgirl, he fits the role, and is also good enough for any JL movie they plan to have going forward, having Keaton as the main Batman in a JL movie doesn't sound good to me.

Xavier5:


Bro, wait till after the reboot before you start complaining.

If they didn't have confidence in their rebooted continuity, they would have restored the snyderverse since. But if after all the campaign for the snyderverse and WB/DC still choose to go with the reboot, then it means they have confidence in it.

As for the Flash failing, The Flash won't flop, it may not gross up to expectation (all thanks to Ezra being a dick) but it won't flop. I don't see a reason why that movie will flop. I don't see how a movie that:

* Has the rebooting theme.
* Has the multiverse theme.
* Has the flashpoint concept.
* Is a JL level movie.
* Will unveil the rebooted JL (according to Andy).
* Will Feature and cameo classic DC characters.
* Will feature fan favorites in Ben Affleck, Michael Keaton and Andy.

...Will fail. I don't see why such movie will fail simply because Miller choosed to be a dick. This movie is bigger than him. All WB/DC needs is good marketing and things will turn out fine. There are ways to go about that.

But let's assume the movie fails, that won't affect the continuity of the DCEU because:

* WB/DC has invested a lot into this franchise, so there's no way they will allow one failed Flash movie to affect or determine it's continuity.

* The DCEU is bigger than the Flash, so Flash's failure can't affect it. If the JL failure couldn't stop the DCEU, is it the Flash that will do so?

* If Flash fails, there are and will be other successful movies in the DCEU. So it makes no sense for the franchise to be shut down because of that.

* WB/DC have an ego to protect. They wouldn't want to be tag incompetent by critics and Snyder fans. So they won't let the Flash pull them back.

* Zaslav himself is committed to making the DCEU work, so I don't see why The Flash will stop him.

As for Batfleck, he's the one that resigned on his own, that's why WB/DC had to replace him with Keaton.
Batfleck returning in Aquaman 2 and The Flash (movies set before the reboot) doesn't mean or necessarily mean he has changed his stance on his Batman role. That is or could just be him fulfilling all righteousness considering how significant Batman is or might be in or to this movies. It makes more sense for Batfleck to appear in Aquaman 2 than Keaton considering it's setting in the timeline.

As for Keaton, I have no doubt in his performance. The dude is a very good actor, so I'm certain he is going to nail the Batman role. His performance in The Protege really gave me the Bruce Wayne vibe.

If Keaton gives a good Batman performance, I tell you Batfleck will be forgotten. This is purely psychology. That's what happened with Batfleck and Battison. When they were casted, they received a lot of booing from people but today, they're everyone's favorites. People readily jump to the next good thing, it's the human psychology.

A good Batman performance from Keaton will make people change their reservations on him. I trust Keaton to give a good performance, the dude is a good and talented actor.

As for issues of Henry Cavill superman. Well, I'm not going to say anything except, let's wait till after the reboot.

I have this feeling that this whole drama between Cavil and WB/DC is deliberate with the intention of keeping the fan base in suspense until the big reveal after the reboot. I feel they're using us to catch cruise.

For some reasons, I feel Cavill superman will appear at the end of the Flash when the rebooted JL will be unveiled. Who knows?

So let's wait till after the reboot first before we start becoming prophets


#Xavier
#DCian

Xavier5:
What humans can do, animals can do better. Who says animals can't be the Justice League


I heard there are two shocking post credit scenes in this movie. I'm tempted to go to Wikipedia sha but my God pass that seduction


#Xavier
#DCian

johnyace:
I believe WB has or had a plan for the DCEU after the the flash releases, but I believe that they aren't confident in that plan because if the flash movie fails to sell it to the fans, that would probably be the end of the DCEU.

For me stuff like bringing back Keaton and not knowing what is going on with Superman, spells doom for whatever plans that they have.

Affleck has shown time and time again that he is still willing to play Batman, if they needed an older Batman to play mentor to Batgirl, he fits the role, and is also good enough for any JL movie they plan to have going forward, having Keaton as the main Batman in a JL movie doesn't sound good to me.

AnfieldFan:
The tweet makes no sense, if they thought Batgirl wouldn't deliver that cinematic experience, they could have dropped it on HBOmax...

The text screenings not being receptive would be the only reason I can think of that would make them bin it entirely....This could also just be a knee jerk reaction with Batgirl later finding it's way to streaming...

abduleez1:


It's actually very stupid and I'm waiting for confirmation. Tge only problem is, it's coming from the Wrap/ THR a very reputable platform.

What's now the use of HBOMax. If you ain't confident them drop it on HBOMax. Also seeing the news that they plan to fold HBOMax into discovery and make HBO continue being a premium subscription channel is just plain stupid and regression if true. Zaslav is a big fool and incompetent exec of this is remotely true.

WW84 had great test screenings but final reviews and audience response turned to shït. So I find this appalling. Test screenings mean shït.

AnfieldFan:


HboMax is living on borrowed time...It's contents are about to be shared.. It's not making money yet and isn't forecasted to make in the near future.... Discovery has always had a reputation of not being User friendly so this isn't entirely shocking...

The headscratcher now is why it isn't being dropped on HBOmax which leads me to believe it must have had terrible screenings....

Some things aren't defined as regards Hollywood and audience tastes but test screenings exist for a reason, you can reliably gauge the excitement/quality of the movie sometimes...I'm saying, it's not entirely useless, it's also not entirely trustworthy...

abduleez1:
Wtf am I seeing... Now this is prime dumb.
How TF will u cancel such movie. Highest drop it in HBOMax.
This Zaslav is dumber than he actually portrays if this is true.

SMUAG:
Good!!!
I will be one of the happiest guy on earth if this rubbish is cancelled or never take to the big screen!!! Including that Blue Beetle...
Instead they build a cohesive universe for the big screen audience, they were busy dishing out poor and low budget contents... Can they see the way MCU is losing their firepower because too much characters without a clear cut path - their audience are confuse (now) because of no clear leader (like the first avengers - Cap and Iron Man, and over saturation of characters that don't even need to be there at the first place..

abduleez1:
Wtf am I seeing... Now this is prime dumb.
How TF will u cancel such movie. Highest drop it in HBOMax.
This Zaslav is dumber than he actually portrays if this is true.

abduleez1:


It's wait and see. I cease to believe it's that bad. I definitely don't want to believe it's worse than Morbius. People that produced Bad Boys For Life and Ms Marvel can't just drop prime shït that it's unreleasable.

Even Scott is doubting it's authenticity. So let's wait.
Turns out it originated from NY Times and they're renowned lately for prime okoto.

Skseries:
if there are tons of characters in the comics, and there was no over saturation and confusion then why not calm down and let's see what they are building at. Or u will u rather have iron man and cap back? The universe is bound to expand. Only thing they have dropped is TLAT. And I didn't expect anything from it anyways,

only issue I see with the current MCU is too much of fan services, but they are still raking in the money. There will always be excitement for their movies, God knows I loved Ms marvel and want more of her

AnfieldFan:


Okk...Even good directors can make below par movies....
A Guardian article quotes a Variety report that they felt Batgirl wouldn't recoup it's cost(it would flop), so doing this would be the best financial move because it would afford them writing it off as a tax write down... Why think that way? I know Zaslav is prioritising cost cutting but something must have prompted this, but if this is just a decision he took because he feels Batgirl isn't big enough for Cinema and isn't small enough for streaming, then color me bewildered...

SMUAG:


So now you're measuring comic book stories to live-action/movies I guess. Don't ever do that cause (almost) anything can go in cartoons, but not movies.
People are practically losing interest in even your MCU because there are too many disconnected things going on simultaneously, but they want you to believe they are perfectly connected...
1. Who's the current leader(s)/avengers in their current point....
2. They made their disnay+ MCU series villains look like MCU's movies A-level threats, yet they used class F heroes to handle the situations without even calling the big guns, and also they hardly mention these F class heroes' names when the real heroes (MCU's movies) handle same threats.
3. 90% of characters in their series don't make it to the big screen (even when they make them look so important and big) or their names are not even mentioned in subsequent movies, for example, White Vision, U.S. Agent: Captain America, and many others. I know they will say they are keeping them for later, but their events were supposed to play into the MCU's next movies that followed those series or be mentioned since they practically share the same universe, if not the same country sef...
I love how those agents were chasing after Kamala because of her gain power, but turn blind eyes and deaf eyes to White Vision who has been roaming around...
The truth is that too many characters definitely give headaches and you know what headache brings...

Skseries:
and here we go again 'your MCU' why must it always be a competition and what makes u think I am a marvel, this is why I hardly make comments here anymore, because for most of u it's abt being a fan.

Wait is it that ppl cannot just enjoy movies for just being movies, must I be a fan? To burst ur bubbles bros, I am more a DC fan than marvel if I was to take side, but I am more a movie fan than either one.

U know what, whatever rocks ur boat, if u say mcu is over saturated and they are going down then it's ur opinion, the box office they rake in shows something different.

We don't need to argue this, so u are right I am wrong

abduleez1:
Wtf am I seeing... Now this is prime dumb.
How TF will u cancel such movie. Highest drop it in HBOMax.
This Zaslav is dumber than he actually portrays if this is true.

Minemrys:

On the contrary, No. From what I heard, the test screening was so negative that WBD do not want the negative press from its release. And they thought it was better canceling it than promoting it with another million dollar only for it to bomb. Recall they still need to promote an Ezra Miller film and Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom.

abduleez1:


The talk of bad test screenings is utter crap.
It's funny how you peeps that hardly believes what WB says are now drinking this one hook line sinker cos it's a project y'all don't like in the first place.

It was mainly axed because Zaslav thinks he can't make money off of it. Nothing more, nothing else.

Imagine the crap, "it's so bad it can't be aired even on HBOMax". Utter rubbish which I ain't buying.
So Morbius looks real good. DC turned out prime shït in Suicide Squad and it's still watchable. I ain't buying this cos DC hasn't had a movie real bad since 2017. WW84 and Birds of Prey were mixed.