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Re: Avoid 20w50 Oil.. 2003 Honda Civic Update by peeps4u: 8:59pm On Dec 26, 2020
GAZZUZZ:


I know like 25.... We go share the 100dollars

Give me your share when you win.
Re: Avoid 20w50 Oil.. 2003 Honda Civic Update by Inception(m): 9:29am On Dec 29, 2020
GAZZUZZ:


You are not a mechanic, not even an apprentice , you do not even patronise proper workshops , so I understand where you are coming from.

grin grin grin
Re: Avoid 20w50 Oil.. 2003 Honda Civic Update by Inception(m): 9:33am On Dec 29, 2020
dru23:


Which engine are easy to rebuild block engine or Aluminum engine..

Bros...

Any engine is rebuildable to factory specifications ( in some cases even better than factory sef).

Even a cracked block can be repaired, using the right methods. Heck i have seen Kia/Hyundai engines with piston slap re-sleeved (Those Russians ehn shocked)

The defining component here is cost involved.
Re: Avoid 20w50 Oil.. 2003 Honda Civic Update by Inception(m): 9:34am On Dec 29, 2020
dru23:


How come this engine keep breaking down, and it seems nobody wants to buy them.. Those engines are made for the African market , they are not as strong as the 2.0liter engine ... when you even compare the fuel economy to the 1.6l or to the almighty Corolla, ..The difference is not that much.... I will rather go for the 2.0liter .....keep And to be Frank with the 2.0liter is almost indestructible too.. This is from experince

Bullshi.t

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Re: Avoid 20w50 Oil.. 2003 Honda Civic Update by chillex8(m): 9:42am On Dec 29, 2020
Inception:


Bullshi.t
Easy tiger cheesy
This one has been done and dusted cool
Re: Avoid 20w50 Oil.. 2003 Honda Civic Update by dru23(m): 3:18pm On Dec 29, 2020
Inception:


Bullshi.t

those gamma engines are very expensive. Na known fact. The reason the cars are cheap na because dem get engine problem and the owners can't afford to replace engine. Rather than replace engine for 550k thereabout, they sell it as it is for say 500k
Re: Avoid 20w50 Oil.. 2003 Honda Civic Update by dru23(m): 3:18pm On Dec 29, 2020
chillex8:

Easy tiger cheesy
This one has been done and dusted cool


those gamma engines are very expensive. Na known fact. The reason the cars are cheap na because dem get engine problem and the owners can't afford to replace engine. Rather than replace engine for 550k thereabout, they sell it as it is for say 500k
Re: Avoid 20w50 Oil.. 2003 Honda Civic Update by soloehis(m): 5:06pm On Jan 02, 2021
ascendo:
I read! Ok? I don't just read, I research... leave matter for Matthias, and research about what causes sludge.

Then come back let's discuss.

Let me emphasize again that most issues we experience here in Nigeria with 20W50 can never be from Total Lubes, Oluem, Mobil lubes, Eterna Lubes etc with standard Blending Facility and ISO Certifications.

You might not understand this till you're in the same field as these.

Why is TPEO 40 for example not failing in Marine Engines?
I have used total qartz 5000 on my 05 Honda pilot since 2012 till date ..the engine runs smoothly just as it was then.. and no sludge..the engine valve is extremely clean...it all depend on the type of oil you are using..I concur with u sir
Re: Avoid 20w50 Oil.. 2003 Honda Civic Update by dru23(m): 6:18pm On Jan 02, 2021
soloehis:
I have used total qartz 5000 on my 05 Honda pilot since 2012 till date ..the engine runs smoothly just as it was then.. and no sludge..the engine valve is extremely clean...it all depend on the type of oil you are using..I concur with u sir


I guess you are smarter than the car manufacture... your statement just buttress why I will NEVER buy naija used cars........


This is why electric cars will never work well in Nigeria grin. Even if all the necessary tools are put their to make it work . Nigerians dont read...

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Re: Avoid 20w50 Oil.. 2003 Honda Civic Update by ascendo(m): 6:59pm On Jan 02, 2021
soloehis:
I have used total qartz 5000 on my 05 Honda pilot since 2012 till date ..the engine runs smoothly just as it was then.. and no sludge..the engine valve is extremely clean...it all depend on the type of oil you are using..I concur with u sir
That's 8 years and counting... many thanks bro; I'm happy you're having this testimony
Re: Avoid 20w50 Oil.. 2003 Honda Civic Update by dru23(m): 8:04pm On Jan 02, 2021
ascendo:

That's 8 years and counting... many thanks bro; I'm happy you're having this testimony


Bros , this na 2021 I no fit carry this matter again o ..Owners should read their car owners at all times o.. Reading is fundamental...... Happy New Year....... I get Customer request ......
Re: Avoid 20w50 Oil.. 2003 Honda Civic Update by sirleke(m): 6:30am On Jan 08, 2021
Good morning house

Opinions needed on Honda City 09 manual transmission...

Thanks @all

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Re: Avoid 20w50 Oil.. 2003 Honda Civic Update by dru23(m): 9:49am On Jan 08, 2021
sirleke:
Good morning house

Opinions needed on Honda City 09 manual transmission...

Thanks @all

Bros sorry, I no dey for manual things o
Re: Avoid 20w50 Oil.. 2003 Honda Civic Update by sirleke(m): 12:57pm On Jan 08, 2021
dru23:


Bros sorry, I no dey for manual things o
thanks boss
Re: Avoid 20w50 Oil.. 2003 Honda Civic Update by Sunshyne200(m): 6:15pm On Nov 16, 2021
dru23:



Am not here to condemn any oil . Again majority of the cars in Nigeria are from the USA , 20w50 engine is not common with USA cars anymore.. The most common oil is 5w30 and car engines are now moving to thinner oil like 0w20 .. These are all facts..... When u talk about the car running tempt.....Texas, Arizona, Las Vegas etc do have the same temperature as Nigeria, so we can't use Nigeria temperature as an excuse to use 20w50.....

As I mentioned to you ,the cars u mention that are built in SA do not have the same engine as the USA spec.. The USA are built better and have better option .. They are much safer and built safer due to the USA strict crash test, other countries don't have that strict crash safety requirements as the USA.. So these cars will cost more ,compare to cars from SA or cars built for African market...

There is a reason why parts of these cars cost much.. Bottom line is owners should read their manual at all times, if it is written in the manual of any particular car that 20w50 is ok to use , than am fine with that .. But if does not state so I advice against it. .. ..

In reality 20w50 sells more than other oil ,it is cheap for a reason..... ..

Hello boss.

Having read most of what you said, I think I may have been servicing my vehicle wrongly.
I use the Honda Accord 2009 2.0l engine and after reading all these I checked my owners manual and the recommended oil for our temperature is 15W - 40.
How can I correct the wrong practice I have been doing all these while.

* won't changing oil affect the engine again?

Just your professional advice please and if you are in Abuja, I don't mind coming for servicing in your workshop.

Re: Avoid 20w50 Oil.. 2003 Honda Civic Update by dru23(m): 7:15pm On Nov 16, 2021
Sunshyne200:


Hello boss.

Having read most of what you said, I think I may have been servicing my vehicle wrongly.
I use the Honda Accord 2009 2.0l engine and after reading all these I checked my owners manual and the recommended oil for our temperature is 15W - 40.
How can I correct the wrong practice I have been doing all these while.

* won't changing oil affect the engine again?

Just your professional advice please and if you are in Abuja, I don't mind coming for servicing in your workshop.

Good day sir, Your Honda accord manual is different from the one I was able to download .. This is the original manual for USA spec .. Maybe urs is European spec.....
But whatever be the case sir, as long as u follow owner's manual that came with the car . you should be all set.......... And most Honda cars from Civic to accord and some Honda car model recommend 5w20

Re: Avoid 20w50 Oil.. 2003 Honda Civic Update by ascendo(m): 10:26pm On Jan 30, 2022
Sunshyne200:


Hello boss.

Having read most of what you said, I think I may have been servicing my vehicle wrongly.
I use the Honda Accord 2009 2.0l engine and after reading all these I checked my owners manual and the recommended oil for our temperature is 15W - 40.
How can I correct the wrong practice I have been doing all these while.

* won't changing oil affect the engine again?

Just your professional advice please and if you are in Abuja, I don't mind coming for servicing in your workshop.

15W40 available in Nigeria is for CI Engines. Is yours a CI engine? If it's not, you can use 5W30 on it or 10W40 if you can get. Castrol stop start will work perfectly ... Get it at any Eterna PLC retail outlets
Re: Avoid 20w50 Oil.. 2003 Honda Civic Update by skywalker240(m): 6:12pm On Aug 06, 2022
dru23:
This is why am against the use of 20w50 oil . Regardless if you do oil change every 2k miles........


Update on my sludge Honda Civic... I spoke early how I collected my Honda 03 from old driver. The new driver notice that the car has some sludge . And liqui Moly Engine Flush was recommended ...
The car was taken to a mechanic few days ago for the flush . Instructions were followed on how to use the flush..

After the procedure was completed, I told the driver to open up the engine valve cover, to see if the engine flush worked well...... To our surprise the sludge was too much for the engine flush to work.. This sludge has pass beyond engine flush solution.

Solution.. The solution for now , will continue using full synethtic oil and flush the engine each time we do oil change. So hopefully that way the sludge can come out gradually. The shape and body of the car is still in good shape . And I hope to continue using it for at least for another 12months or so ..
The currant cost of the engine is 120k naira , if worse comes to worse I will replace the engine. Honda civics parts are easy and cheap to maintain.


Reason For the Sludge . From day 1 the car has been using full synethtic oil . My late mechanic does the oil change. The driver comes to the house collects the oil and drives down to ladipo to have mechanic do oil change..
The mechanic is late now, he can't defend himself, no point to be pointing fingers .. But full synethtic oil does not cause sludge in your engine. The most that will happen is the oil becomes very black or gets more darker over time...


For the safety of your engine do not use 20w50 especially if your car is tokunbo, especially if it is not in the owners manual..

All that bull crap that change oil every 2k miles if you use 20w50 . It is waste of time , do you have the time to be keeping track of the miles till it reaches 2k miles . And also if you are changing your oil you need to change the oil filter . To save your wallet and peace of mind use full synethtic oil at all times. It will give you peace of mind ...


Conclusion... becareful who you trust with your hard earn money. When buying parts for your cars, make sure you are physically present when mechanic is working on the car.
Do not leave your car with them and come back days later to collect your car .. Have heard stories catalyst converter been removed and other parts when vechicle left with mechanic.. Do not leave your car over nite with mechanic..


Any potential investors , should fall back for now.. In order for you to learn this business, you have to be ready to lose money.. If you are not ready to lose money ,my advice stay away. This business is not for the faint of heart.......
Am using total 20w50 and that range of Civic is the one I own cry cry cry

What do I do now, should I port? Won't that hurt the engine (my kazeem told me that)?
Re: Avoid 20w50 Oil.. 2003 Honda Civic Update by dru23(m): 8:34pm On Aug 06, 2022
skywalker240:

Am using total 20w50 and that range of Civic is the one I own cry cry cry

What do I do now, should I port? Won't that hurt the engine (my kazeem told me that)?


Well continue using it .... If you try to port to the original manufacture recommendation u might encounter a leak......

That 20w50 is too thick of an oil .... Because of the thickness the oil pump, that pumps oil into all the moving parts of the engine is working faster than it should be .....

That is why in some cases people will replace the oil pump.. You are over working it .... And it takes a longer time for the oil to get into the moving parts..

Since u are using 20w50 it is not full synthetic .. It means u have to change ur oil often .. Likely around every 3k miles or so ..
Failure to do so ur engine will be sludge up (pic )
below........overall Honda built good engine.. Those engine can take abuse and abuse..


But their transmission will not tolerate the use of wrong fluid.. It will end in premium tears.. People hate Honda, because they are highly ignorant of their maintenance.

Most Nigerians car owners want a car that they can abuse and neglect responsibility .......

Newer model cars now are using lighter oil like 0W20. Some Honda use 0w20.. So next time when u get a newer model car follow owners manual ....

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Re: Avoid 20w50 Oil.. 2003 Honda Civic Update by ksmart027(m): 10:13pm On Aug 07, 2022
skywalker240:

Am using total 20w50 and that range of Civic is the one I own cry cry cry

What do I do now, should I port? Won't that hurt the engine (my kazeem told me that)?
If your car is sludge free and does not burn oil, switch to Mobil 2000 5w30.

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Re: Avoid 20w50 Oil.. 2003 Honda Civic Update by Mommyeve: 12:56am On Aug 08, 2022
My mechanic put mobil super 1000 in my 2009 toyota corolla (20W50). Can it harm my engine? Is it safe safe for me to keep using it?
Re: Avoid 20w50 Oil.. 2003 Honda Civic Update by dicksonadams(m): 3:07am On Aug 08, 2022
Mommyeve:
My mechanic put mobil super 1000 in my 2009 toyota corolla (20W50). Can it harm my engine? Is it safe safe for me to keep using it?
I'm the long run
Re: Avoid 20w50 Oil.. 2003 Honda Civic Update by skywalker240(m): 7:51am On Aug 08, 2022
dru23:



Well continue using it .... If you try to port to the original manufacture recommendation u might encounter a leak......

That 20w50 is too thick of an oil .... Because of the thickness the oil pump, that pumps oil into all the moving parts of the engine is working faster than it should be .....

That is why in some cases people will replace the oil pump.. You are over working it .... And it takes a longer time for the oil to get into the moving parts..

Since u are using 20w50 it is not full synthetic .. It means u have to change ur oil often .. Likely around every 3k miles or so ..
Failure to do so ur engine will be sludge up (pic )
below........overall Honda built good engine.. Those engine can take abuse and abuse..


But their transmission will not tolerate the use of wrong fluid.. It will end in premium tears.. People hate Honda, because they are highly ignorant of their maintenance.

Most Nigerians car owners want a car that they can abuse and neglect responsibility .......

Newer model cars now are using lighter oil like 0W20. Some Honda use 0w20.. So next time when u get a newer model car follow owners manual ....
True cry

Here's my engine oil and transmission oil plus power steering oil, that's what the previous owner uses

I don't think any of them is even recommended for this beauty, Nigerians are heartless

Never in my life will I buy a Nigerian used vehicle again angry angry

Re: Avoid 20w50 Oil.. 2003 Honda Civic Update by skywalker240(m): 8:01am On Aug 08, 2022
ksmart027:

If your car is sludge free and does not burn oil, switch to Mobil 2000 5w30.
My car at this moment needs oil change as i can see on my check engine light on my dashboard

I've not open the engine to see if there is sludge, but i am suspecting that because the previous owner said he changes 3 months and he changed it recently but I certainly hope it's not what it is.

After i discovered and read this Dru23 thread, This current oil 20w50 am using is now pissing me off angry angry angry
Re: Avoid 20w50 Oil.. 2003 Honda Civic Update by dru23(m): 12:29pm On Aug 08, 2022
skywalker240:

My car at this moment needs oil change as i can see on my check engine light on my dashboard

I've not open the engine to see if there is sludge, but i am suspecting that because the previous owner said he changes 3 months and he changed it recently but I certainly hope it's not what it is.

After i discovered and read this Dru23 thread, This current oil 20w50 am using is now pissing me off angry angry angry


My only advice is manage am like that. Civic engine will take abuse. Use the car until it will need engine replacement .. Once you replace the engine with a conform tokunbo grade start using the recommended fluid oil .......

We live and learn ........

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Re: Avoid 20w50 Oil.. 2003 Honda Civic Update by dru23(m): 12:33pm On Aug 08, 2022
skywalker240:

True cry

Here's my engine oil and transmission oil plus power steering oil, that's what the previous owner uses

I don't think any of them is even recommended for this beauty, Nigerians are heartless

Never in my life will I buy a Nigerian used vehicle again angry angry



And this is the same fluid they will use for a 2013 model cars.... Parts dealer and mechanics will be making off car owners ignorance.....

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Re: Avoid 20w50 Oil.. 2003 Honda Civic Update by skywalker240(m): 12:46pm On Aug 08, 2022
dru23:



My only advice is manage am like that. Civic engine will take abuse. Use the car until it will need engine replacement .. Once you replace the engine with a conform tokunbo grade start using the recommended fluid oil .......

We live and learn ........
Yes true, i have no choice

I love her so much, even my Wife Is getting lesser attention now because of her and she has at one time complained about how i always take my baby like the best thing in life
Re: Avoid 20w50 Oil.. 2003 Honda Civic Update by ksmart027(m): 1:07pm On Aug 08, 2022
skywalker240:

My car at this moment needs oil change as i can see on my check engine light on my dashboard

I've not open the engine to see if there is sludge, but i am suspecting that because the previous owner said he changes 3 months and he changed it recently but I certainly hope it's not what it is.

After i discovered and read this Dru23 thread, This current oil 20w50 am using is now pissing me off angry angry angry
Continue using 20w50,and change at 5000km.

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Re: Avoid 20w50 Oil.. 2003 Honda Civic Update by dru23(m): 1:19pm On Aug 08, 2022
Mommyeve:
My mechanic put mobil super 1000 in my 2009 toyota corolla (20W50). Can it harm my engine? Is it safe safe for me to keep using it?



New models cars like urs especially Toyota cars are switching to thinner oil like 0w20 and 5w20 ....

1. Below chart for 2009 Corolla ......your car oil is 0w20 or 5w20 .. But 0w20 is highly recommended ....
Please keep in mind that the oil pump is design to pump 0w20 or 5w20 oil ... 20w50 is too heavy for the pump and it will damage the oil pump and wear out your engine gradually
........

Most of these mechanics do not have degrees or certification on cars ..... The manufacture knows better that this kazzem you are using.. The excuse they will tell you is Nigerian weather and use thicker oil etc bla bla bla etc ..........
Kindly switch to the recommended oil and hope it is not too late. Take your car to a professional , have them open up the engine cover to check for sludge.


2. Second chart ..... This are newer model cars that use thinner oil . ...very important to follow owners manual

Re: Avoid 20w50 Oil.. 2003 Honda Civic Update by Mommyeve: 8:07pm On Aug 08, 2022
Thank you for the reply



New models cars like urs especially Toyota cars are switching to thinner oil like 0w20 and 5w20 ....

1. Below chart for 2009 Corolla ......your car oil is 0w20 or 5w20 .. But 0w20 is highly recommended ....
Please keep in mind that the oil pump is design to pump 0w20 or 5w20 oil ... 20w50 is too heavy for the pump and it will damage the oil pump and wear out your engine gradually
........

Most of these mechanics do not have degrees or certification on cars ..... The manufacture knows better that this kazzem you are using.. The excuse they will tell you is Nigerian weather and use thicker oil etc bla bla bla etc ..........
Kindly switch to the recommended oil and hope it is not too late. Take your car to a professional , have them open up the engine cover to check for sludge.


2. Second chart ..... This are newer model cars that use thinner oil . ...very important to follow owners manual [/quote]
Re: Avoid 20w50 Oil.. 2003 Honda Civic Update by Kaymax2222: 7:57am On Aug 09, 2022
dru23:




New models cars like urs especially Toyota cars are switching to thinner oil like 0w20 and 5w20 ....

1. Below chart for 2009 Corolla ......your car oil is 0w20 or 5w20 .. But 0w20 is highly recommended ....
Please keep in mind that the oil pump is design to pump 0w20 or 5w20 oil ... 20w50 is too heavy for the pump and it will damage the oil pump and wear out your engine gradually
........

Most of these mechanics do not have degrees or certification on cars ..... The manufacture knows better that this kazzem you are using.. The excuse they will tell you is Nigerian weather and use thicker oil etc bla bla bla etc ..........
Kindly switch to the recommended oil and hope it is not too late. Take your car to a professional , have them open up the engine cover to check for sludge.


2. Second chart ..... This are newer model cars that use thinner oil . ...very important to follow owners manual
how far baba you still dey business?? .... What engine oil will you recommend for honda civic 2007 just got a toks engine and how much is it??
Re: Avoid 20w50 Oil.. 2003 Honda Civic Update by dru23(m): 9:41am On Aug 09, 2022
Kaymax2222:
how far baba you still dey business?? .... What engine oil will you recommend for honda civic 2007 just got a toks engine and how much is it??


How far my loyal customer ? You show u wan buy oyel .

Coz the gist now for now from all these unknown gunmen zamibea aka Diarrhea of mouth and anus grin . than kwett aka sleeping with HIV women to Soperesuce Aka foolish old man ....... Dey talk say na fake oyel I dey sell o..... grin

Dey say I dey mix am inside my kiosk for Lagos grin . And SON go soon bust me grin .. And also dey talk na powder I dey push from my kiosk angry in Lagos to America


You sure u wan buy? grin na 5w20 your car dey use o .. And cost na 27k

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