hopefulLandlord:
https://www.transfermarkt.com/robert-lewandowski/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/38253

hopefulLandlord:


Yeah, he did play as a second striker and never played as a midfielder. the likes of Kuba, Sahin, Götze, Bender, Kagawa were the midfielders and he was deployed in front of Götze who was the real attacking midfielder.

Kilishihunter:

When you're ready to have an "intelligent conversation" you tell me

Kilishihunter:

He even played in central midfield one time bro to even accommodate kagawa as a false 9, I believe that's what shaped his link up play and movement to become more connected with them Muller, Remember how he still had 2 assists against us in the 8-2 despite him drifting from the CF role sometimes

OhBritannia:
The last time Barça won the Joan Gamper Trophy 6-0 they went on to win the treble that season. It was in 2014.

It was also the last time Barça faced a Mexican club (León) in the Gamper Trophy.

That day Messi scored in the 3rd min. Today Lewandowski scored in the 3rd min.

Also Real Madrid won the Champions League in the previous year.

#copied

hopefulLandlord:


the onus is on you to prove. you asserted that he played attacking midfield and I said he didn't. you should be the one to tell us the matches he played as an attacking midfielder not me going to prove he didn't. that's how intelligent conversation should go

hopefulLandlord:


Just like he was interchanging with Reus when he first came. a player who was at Monchengladbach at the time. huh? a Dortmund player switching with a Monchengladbach one

jpmoriarti:
Someone who can do this to a player, is an excellent dribbler in my opinion.

https://twitter.com/FCBarcelona/status/1556573675083669504?t=7OrbeyvaK3t6v4GCzmCrTA&s=19

jpmoriarti:
You just came and said this isn't true. I was expecting you to drop proofs to disprove him. Suddenly, you're shifting burden of proof. Quite odd.

jpmoriarti:
Someone who can do this to a player, is an excellent dribbler in my opinion.

https://twitter.com/FCBarcelona/status/1556573675083669504?t=7OrbeyvaK3t6v4GCzmCrTA&s=19

Culer:
lol this one off me

So because of 1 fancy dribble you qualify him as an excellent dribbler?

Ridiculously Dumb take, imo

jpmoriarti:
You just came and said this isn't true. I was expecting you to drop proofs to disprove him. Suddenly, you're shifting burden of proof. Quite odd.

Kilishihunter:

One error doesn't mean you will be right to Tell me lewa didn't play AM which he did
Who scored, Transfermarkt won't show you he played as an AM, Even sofascore that I went to dig this up are still showing me he played only as a CF
All screenshoted matches are from the Bundesliga 2010/2011 season

Kilishihunter:

Maybe it's the angle he showed you that's making you disregard it, I also agree with him that it takes a good deal of technique to pull that off
https://twitter.com/Barca_Buzz/status/1556349758830264320?t=mGVBUNdzmp6kZju4ZXer9g&s=19


But you sef, you too dey vex

hopefulLandlord:

if someone said you've been to Garki and I say it isn't true. who exactly has burden of proof? what evidence do I tender to "prove" you've not been to Garki?

hopefulLandlord:

That position in those screenshots do not prove he's playing as a midfielder. a player playing as an SS can still be put in those positions in a graphic.

mostob:
You're the one disputing so the burden of proof falls to you.

hopefulLandlord:


Really? how do you prove a negative? If someone says there is a green coloured house in Garki and I say it isn't true. How do I prove there is no green coloured house? or shouldn't the person that said there is a green coloured house just show me?

mostob:
Are you kidding me?? The formations in those screenshots is 4231 and I'm not sure there is an SS in a 4231.
Infact the formations are much more reliable than the one you brought from the transfermarket

mostob:
if you can't prove then there is no need to dispute. It's simple.

Kilishihunter:

Maybe it's the angle he showed you that's making you disregard it, I also agree with him that it takes a good deal of technique to pull that off
https://twitter.com/Barca_Buzz/status/1556349758830264320?t=mGVBUNdzmp6kZju4ZXer9g&s=19


But you sef, you too dey vex

hopefulLandlord:

That position in those screenshots do not prove he's playing as a midfielder. a player playing as an SS can still be put in those positions in a graphic.

Kilishihunter:

I must be stupid for not knowing what a 4-2-3-1 formation looks like then, You want me to believe what you've been bringing from transfermarkt only since morning while what I dug from way back as 2010/2011 alongside other article screenshots I dropped here is disproved by you, Why don't you also show me who scored site that only lists him as a CF?
Tbf you're just turning around in circles with no bang on point, No offence

hopefulLandlord:


You dug those pics from Sofascore who even according to your own word they said he played exclusively as a striker

Kilishihunter:

Yes, which is what I said earlier
And from the same sofascore does this look like what a striker played in?
Rest gee, you're just been unnecessarily stubborn at this point

FirstbornWds:


True sha. He really should have been better. But I blame the coaches that he played with, especially Arsenal. This should have been a core to his game for the long years be spent playing there.

hopefulLandlord:

okay, I see your problem now. if you agree he did play as a second striker at Dortmund can you show the same lineup from that same sofascore that shows him as one?

hopefulLandlord:


That's a pretty inane point and you keep dodging the main question. how do you prove a negative like there not being a green coloured house in Garki?

Jodera:
What he said is true. The Onus of any argument is that it's believed what someone said is right until Proven wrong. He says Lewy played as an Am, the person he told believed him but you claimed it was a lie. Then prove without doubt that it's a lie not him making the claim.

Even your Analogy of green house in Garki still falls under same premise. If he says there's green house in Garki and you disprove him, then you have to show that what he says is false. Not for him most times but for the person whom you wanna "rescue" from the false information Kilishi original brandished. Then once that is done, Kilishi can now bring his own proof.

That's always how it's done. E no dey hard pass that