Maynman:


The term “god” “president” didn’t just fall from heaven like “manna”
We have etymology, where these words come from and the meaning behind it.
Look up on the origin.

Theos means gods in greek
Elohim means gods hebrew
English God comes from greek Theos(Theology, atheism theism), another also comes from germanic origin but that means “to pour”.
Sorry you didn’t know.
Olorun means “sky god”.
Orisha is God in yoruba
Allah is a Aramaic word that also means elohim, and means gods.

Your religion thrives on ignorance

EVERY TITLE HAS ITS MEANING ?

I wonder how difficult that is for you to comprehend Simple things!

OLORUN is NOT Sky God my dear!

OLU- Means Owner, Chief, King, Ruler etc
ORUN- Heaven (in context)

OLORUN means Owner, Chief, King, Ruler of Heaven.

And in Yoruba religion
OLORUN is the only Deity that does NOT have a shrine, not an idol not is he even worshipped directly


Olorun (Yoruba alphabet: Ọlọrun) is the ruler of (or in) the Heavens in the Yoruba religion. The Supreme God or Supreme Being in the Yoruba pantheon, Olorun is also called Olodumare. Among Yoruba people who practice Christianity and Islam, the name Olorun refers to the Abrahamic God.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E1%BB%8Cl%E1%BB%8Drun


ALAGA and CHAIRMAN means

I am sure you don't know that there is a difference between
OLORUN of Shango worshippers
OLORUN of Muslims
OLORUN of Christians
Because OLORUN is a TITLE not a name/identity!

Maynman:


It’s you that didn’t get the context. Relax

A miracle is generally defined, according to the etymology of the word—it comes from the Greek thaumasion and the Latin miraculum—as that which causes wonder and astonishment, being extraordinary in itself and amazing or inexplicable by normal standards.

We have so many magicians(that can cause wonder and astonishment) that can do that. Even in Christianity you can see the mockery of “miracles”

So, when a magician is performing, he is doing miracles?

Continue!

TenQ:

EVERY TITLE HAS ITS MEANING ?

I wonder how difficult that is for you to comprehend Simple things!

OLORUN is NOT Sky God my dear!

OLU- Means Owner, Chief, King, Ruler etc
ORUN- Heaven (in context)

OLORUN means Owner, Chief, King, Ruler of Heaven.

And in Yoruba religion
OLORUN is the only Deity that does NOT have a shrine, not an idol not is he even worshipped directly


Olorun (Yoruba alphabet: Ọlọrun) is the ruler of (or in) the Heavens in the Yoruba religion. The Supreme God or Supreme Being in the Yoruba pantheon, Olorun is also called Olodumare. Among Yoruba people who practice Christianity and Islam, the name Olorun refers to the Abrahamic God.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E1%BB%8Cl%E1%BB%8Drun


ALAGA and CHAIRMAN means

I am sure you don't know that there is a difference between
OLORUN of Shango worshippers
OLORUN of Muslims
OLORUN of Christians
Because OLORUN is a TITLE not a name/identity!

How did it became a title with no meaning?
This are basic things to understand, chrestian.

Olorun simply means lord of the heaven.
Heaven and sky means same thing.
We also have olokun. Lord of the seas.
Olorun is a member of the orishas.
God means orishas.
Olorun is a name and an identity.
Olorun is also olodumare
Olorun first child is orunmila.
It wasn’t olorun that created earth or human being.

TenQ:

So, when a magician is performing, he is doing miracles?

Continue!

What’s a miracle?
Don’t we have many “miracles” in your Christianity that was later debunked.



A miracle is generally defined, according to the etymology of the word—it comes from the Greek thaumasion and the Latin miraculum—as that which causes wonder and astonishment, being extraordinary in itself and amazing or inexplicable by normal standards.

Maynman:


I wish you are humble enough to know you are ignorant, and lack knowledge of what you are saying.

Satanist groups one called theistic satanism, and another atheistic satanis.
Are you also not a THEIST? See this hypocrite oo.
Is theist and theistic satanist the same thing?

See what religion is doing to you.

It seems you don’t know what THEISM IS, which you are!

Some people are adverse to knowledge

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanism

Read up please!

HardMirror:
it is ok for people to admit they are ignorant about something than to accept anything even when it is obvious it is wrong. It is not compulsory for her to give you an alternative. All she knows is your explanation does not make sense. When she sees an idea that makes sense to her, she will accept it.

if the universe wasn't created how do you explain dark matter , how do you explain the fact that millions of planets are created everyday and most coming out of the suppose nothingess

How do you explain space time?

TenQ:

Some people are adverse to knowledge

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanism

Read up please!

Some people love wallowing in ignorance!

It’s you that should read up.

Is theist and theistic satanist the same thing?
Are you not a theist?

Think na

Templee333:

what abt the 1st to 37th? I'd like to knw

Law 1: Never Outshine The Master.
Law 2: Never Put Too Much Trust In Friends, Learn How To Use Enemies.
Law 3: Conceal Your Intentions.
Law 4: Always Say Less Than Necessary.
Law 5: So Much Depends On Reputation – Guard It With Your Life.
Law 6: Court Attention At All Cost.
Law 7: Get Others To Do The Work For You, But Always Take The Credit.
Law 8: Make Other People Come To You – Use Bait If Necessary.
Law 9: Win Through Your Actions, Never Through Argument.
Law 10: Infection: Avoid The Unhappy And Unlucky.
Law 11: Learn To Keep People Dependent On You.
Law 12: Use Selective Honesty And Generosity To Disarm Your Victim.
Law 13: Appeal To People’s Self-Interest, Never To Their Mercy Or Gratitude.
Law 14: Pose As A Friend, Work As A Spy.
Law 15: Crush Your Enemy Totally.
Law 16: Use Absence To Increase Respect And Honour.
Law 17: Keep Others In Suspended Terror: Cultivate An Air Of Unpredictability.
Law 18: Do Not Build Fortresses To Protect Yourself – Isolation Is Dangerous.
Law 19: Know Who You’re Dealing With – Do Not Offend The Wrong Person.
Law 20: Do Not Commit To Anyone.
Law 21: Play A Sucker To Catch A Sucker—Seem Dumber Than Your Mark.
Law 22: Use The Surrender Tactic: Transform Weakness Into Power.
Law 23: Concentrate Your Forces.
Law 24: Play The Perfect Courtier.
Law 25: Recreate Yourself.
Law 26: Keep Your Hands Clean.
Law 27: Play On People’s Need To Believe To Create A Cultlike Following.
Law 28: Enter Action With Boldness.
Law 29: Plan All The Way To The End.
Law 30: Make Your Accomplishments Seem Effortless.
Law 31: Control The Options: Get Others To Play With The Cards You Deal.
Law 32: Play To People’s Fantasies.
Law 33: Discover Each Man’s Thumbscrew.
Law 34: Be Royal In Your Own Fashion: Act Like A King To Be Treated Like One.
Law 35: Master The Art Of Timing.
Law 36: Disdain Things You Cannot Have: Ignoring Them Is The Best Revenge.
Law 37: Create Compelling Spectacles.
Law 38: Think As You Like But Behave Like Others.
Law 39: Stir Up Waters To Catch Fish.
Law 40: Despise The Free Lunch.
Law 41: Avoid Stepping Into A Great Man’s Shoes.
Law 42: Strike The Shepherd And The Sheep Will Scatter.
Law 43: Work On The Hearts And Minds Of Others.
Law 44: Disarm And Infuriate With The Mirror Effect.
Law 45: Preach The Need For Change, But Never Reform Too Much At Once.
Law 46: Never Appear Too Perfect.
Law 47: Do Not Go Past The Mark You Aimed For; In Victory, Learn When To Stop.
Law 48: Assume Formlessness.

LeHMaR:
You confuse me, To clarify, are you for or against being aheist.

I am a proud Disciple of Jesus Christ.

I just exposed the stupidity of the "several thousand Deities" problem of Atheists.

Their argument is reduced in an instant from several thousand to just TWO Yahweh and Allah!

Manageable even for Atheists!
LOL!

Maynman:


Who are the “jews”? Where do they come from?
What does “jew” mean?
Is Abraham a “jew”?

You lack knowledge of your religion, that’s why you are a chrestian.

Your splashing about is disturbing:
Let me help you out

Esth 2:5:
"Now in Shushan the palace there was a certain Jew, whose name was Mordecai, the son of Jair, the son of Shimei, the son of Kish, a Benjamite;"
John 4:9:
"Then said the woman of Samaria to him, How is it that you, being a Jew, ask drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans."

If you don't know who a Jew is after this, too bad!

TheSourcerer:
I don't , I let them teach me , then I educate them .

Bro where you at? I want to hold a conversation with you someday... We are not even far away from each other

TenQ:

Your splashing about is disturbing:
Let me help you out

Esth 2:5:
"Now in Shushan the palace there was a certain Jew, whose name was Mordecai, the son of Jair, the son of Shimei, the son of Kish, a Benjamite;"
John 4:9:
"Then said the woman of Samaria to him, How is it that you, being a Jew, ask drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans."

If you don't know who a Jew is after this, too bad!

Your ignorance is glaring, how are you cherry-picking where to answer, why don’t you send a Wikipedia link of jews?

You quoted a verse in a random book. Bwahahahah.
It answered nothing Chrestian.
Is “noah” a jew?
Where do “jews” come from?

Jennygold111:
Is it wise to play along with been a Christian as an Atheist? I am finding it difficult to fake, it seems like a major blow to myself to lie to myself.

So all Atheist were once Christian....smh

Dtruthspeaker:


That is your first problem and the beginning of all your problems.

Okay.... I'm still with you bro

My not knowing what the way is and who this good owner is, is my first problem and beginning of all my problems right?

Now, enlighten me pls. What is the way and who is this good owner? So I don't have to chase a mirage (Money) all my life

?

Maynman:

This is your first time of asking me!

Are you taking all what science said as possible and not possible to be FACT, before we go on?
No strawman fallacy here.
By the way, scientists says they don’t know.

And do you also know an effect can occur before a cause? Is it logically and scientifically possible?

Is the infinite regress of cause and effect Scientifically and Logically possible?

That is the question; the answer is either yes or no!

Retrocausality: is a function of your reference point. And it doesn't answer the question of infinite regress of cause and effect

TenQ:

Is the infinite regress of cause and effect Scientifically and Logically possible?

That is the question; the answer is either yes or no!

Retrocausality: is a function of your reference point. And it doesn't answer the question of infinite regress of cause and effect

Are you taking all what science said as possible and not possible to be FACT, before we go on?
No strawman fallacy here.
By the way, scientists says they don’t know.
Karma is also called law of causation.

And do you also know an effect can occur before a cause? Is it logically and scientifically possible?

GodsOwnMan:


Faith is the opposite of Reason.

Please go back to school.

Really?

Faith is the same as TRUSTING the integrity of a Person.

Do you think your wife (if you are married) will cheat on you?
The answer you give is a statement of your Faith or Lack of Faith in her.

If you have swallowed a wrong definition of faith, relearn.

TenQ:

Really?

Faith is the same as TRUSTING the integrity of a Person.

Do you think your wife (if you are married) will cheat on you?
The answer you give is a statement of your Faith or Lack of Faith in her.

If you have swallowed a wrong definition of faith, relearn.

Nobody thinks their wife will cheat on them, but alas we can see the reality.
You don’t know, you can only have “faith” and “hope” that’s not a good thing to base your entire life on.

Maynman:
Is theist and theistic satanist the same thing?



Are you dumb?
Is Atheism not the opposite of theism?
Go look up on origin of the word, or the “standard definition”.

read and don’t rush.

I said:
Bwahahahah, now we have the standard definition of atheism.
And theism will be the opposite of this right?

“Theism is not a BELIEF in Yahweh or Allah or Vishnu BUT a BELIEF in the existence of any DEITY/God!”


As their father, yaldaboath, So they are.
SMH!

Just as your people right now cannot define correctly who a WOMAN is!
SMH!

The preferred definition of Atheism breaks down under reason!

TenQ:

Just as your people right now cannot define correctly who a WOMAN is!
SMH!

The preferred definition of Atheism breaks down under reason!

Who are your “people”.
Stick to our discussion, Chrestian.

Atheism is the opposite of theism. This is basic.

thesicilian:

That's not a fair answer. It's almost as if we're fighting. Your answer suggests that every theist is unreasonable or immature in terms of reasoning faculty. I believe you should be able to make your point without trying to bring down others at the same time.

whats a more rational order? Accepting before believing or believing before accepting?

Sojourner2000:



Bro where you at? I want to hold a conversation with you someday... We are not even far away from each other

oh okay sure , so where are you ?

Maynman:


Read slowly chrestian.
Elohim are sons of EL.
Elohim mean gods in hebrew.

Genesis 35:2 and Exodus 18:11
god =Deity!

It is a TITLE and I don't know what your problem is about it!

TenQ:


Genesis 35:2 and Exodus 18:11
god =Deity!

It is a TITLE and I don't know what your problem is about it!

Was the torah which you are quoting book of beraSHIT written in English?
Elohim means gods and they are sons to EL.
I don’t know what your problem is about it!
EL is the father of Yahweh.
I’ll show you yahweh mother soon

Yahweh worshipper bwahahahah

GodsOwnMan:


Then I put it to you that the universe was ALWAYS and hence needs no god to create it. QED.

Except that the Scientific notation till date is that the Universe began about 13.8 billion years ago from a gravitational singularity.

According to this theory, space and time emerged together 13.787±0.020 billion years ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe

Sorry sir, you are completely WRONG!

TenQ:

Except that the Scientific notation till date is that the Universe began about 13.8 billion years ago from a gravitational singularity.

According to this theory, space and time emerged together 13.787±0.020 billion years ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe

Sorry sir, you are completely WRONG!

Did you miss this?

The Big Bang theory is the prevailing cosmological description of the development of the universe. According to this theory, space and time emerged together 13.787±0.020 billion years ago,[11] and the universe has been expanding ever since the Big Bang.

CC GodsOwnMan

LeHMaR:
If it's monotheism you speak of, then you're still wrong... Its 3 religion and not 2 with Judaism included.. Several religions are also henotheistic doesn't mean they don't believe in punishment for not worshipping thei God.
But let's live in your world, still my quote still stands...You don't believe in 1 and I don't believe in the two.. What's the difference?? You're still a atheist in the eyes of the other religion.. Oh i forget, you have a 50% chance of making heaven. While i have zero.

LOL!

At least, I have burst the so-called monstrous problem: from several thousand to two or maximum three!

You should give me credit for that. LOL!

At least your problem is NOW manageable!
LOL!!

phemmyfour:
So all Atheist were once Christian....smh

Where did you get that from?

Maynman:


How did it became a title with no meaning?
This are basic things to understand, chrestian.

Olorun simply means lord of the heaven.
Heaven and sky means same thing.
We also have olokun. Lord of the seas.
Olorun is a member of the orishas.
God means orishas.
Olorun is a name and an identity.
Olorun is also olodumare
Olorun first child is orunmila.
It wasn’t olorun that created earth or human being.

President means Ruler, Head,

President of China is NOT
President of Ukraine and is NOT
President of USA neither is he president of Nigeria.

When a person uses the term President, then you have to look at it from his context.

Donald Duke : My president is my friend and he likes eating rice and beans
Donald Trump: My president is a my enemy and doesn't eat rice and beans

These two above are NOT contradictions!

Leave Yoruba Traditional Worshipers with their OLORUN
Leave Christians with their OLORUN and
Leave Moslems with their OLORUN

They refer to three different OLORUN!

Maynman:


What’s a miracle?
Don’t we have many “miracles” in your Christianity that was later debunked.



A miracle is generally defined, according to the etymology of the word—it comes from the Greek thaumasion and the Latin miraculum—as that which causes wonder and astonishment, being extraordinary in itself and amazing or inexplicable by normal standards.

I asked you,
When a magician is performing, is he doing miracles?

TenQ:

President means Ruler, Head,

President of China is NOT
President of Ukraine and is NOT
President of USA neither is he president of Nigeria.

When a person uses the term President, then you have to look at it from his context.

Donald Duke : My president my friend and he likes eating rice and beans
Donald Trump: My president is a my enemy and doesn't eat rice and beans

These two above are NOT contradictions!

Leave Yoruba Traditional Worshipers with their OLORUN
Leave Christians with their OLORUN and
Leave Moslems with their OLORUN

They refer to three different OLORUN!

Arrant BS.

Olorun simply means lord of the heavens. Zeus simply means Lord of the heavens.
Should we also leave Christians and muslims with their zeus?

Olorun is an entity in yoruba religion. READ!

TenQ:

I asked you,
When a magician is performing, is he doing miracles?

YES.

i asked you now, what’s the origin of the word “miracle”?
Give me “standard definition”