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Re: FG Blocks Mobile Payment, Telecoms Network Access To Online Loan Firms by Juoflife1(f): 12:30pm On Aug 19, 2022
Then they deserve all the harassment from the loan sharks.
ImoleNaija:


And you think desperate Nigerians have time to go through the terms and conditions? Lol. Most would only come to their senses when their nerves are calmed. grin

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Re: FG Blocks Mobile Payment, Telecoms Network Access To Online Loan Firms by mhiztaNexy(m): 12:31pm On Aug 19, 2022
King125007:
Yes, you're correct, in my hustling days straight out of nysc, I used to work with one of them..

I also do not support most of the method employ to get the loans back, but trust me when I say some of those method are employed on extreme cases. Nigerians stubborn


And that is where govt regulation come in.

About the interest rate, it was made clear from the beginning before the loan was collected, even contacting or gaining access to your phone contact was part of the agreement customers sign on to on PRIVACY AND AGREEMENT, but most Nigerians don't read, they just glance through documents

I am just concern about the number of youths that are going to be out of job. That's all



Gaining access, yeah, defamation no. The bastards even sell contacts to other companies, reason why you'll receive loan offers from different numbers.

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Re: FG Blocks Mobile Payment, Telecoms Network Access To Online Loan Firms by King125007(m): 12:37pm On Aug 19, 2022
Yes, I may have exaggerated d figure a bit, but I am sure it is close to that sir

About the education part, the minimum qualification needed to work in a loan shark company is ND, I know this because I once work with one of them back in d days

What I am trying to tell you is most youths working with them are university graduates .

For better job, it may interest you that most youths working there are actually working remotely, while doing other jobs. With a salary of up to 100k monthly. I know. A lot of people that were able to use this to gain a better life.. Male and female

What I am trying to say in a nutshell is, these people are employing lots of youths mostly Lagos where good jobs are scarce and some other parts of the country

Govt should regulate their operations and fine those caught wanting instead of killing the business totally.. That's just common sense na



LZAA:

Man said 10000 youths grin grin
I'm sure kenya,Tanzania and Mozambique that chased loan sharks away have no databases as well
If you or anyone you know is under their employ better complete your education or get a better job
Banks go through all that stress because they keep records
Re: FG Blocks Mobile Payment, Telecoms Network Access To Online Loan Firms by mhiztaNexy(m): 12:39pm On Aug 19, 2022
Yoighaman:


You sound like you work for one of them.

So the method of recovery whereby they harass borrowers by sending bulk SMS to their contacts is OK by you? Is that ethical and professional?

They have factored in the risk of eventual default into their crazy interest rates, so if anyone beats them to their game, too bad.

I support the FG's decision.
Bastards wey dey evade tax too. You know how the Nigerian system is, you know the poverty and unemployment rate, you know how desperate Nigerians can be, yet your solution is to offer them loan with short time to repay and crazy interest rate and you expect it to end well?, lol.

Anyone who has a high credit score to secure over 200k from these loan apps should sit down and calculate how much you've paid back as interest, you will cry.

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Re: FG Blocks Mobile Payment, Telecoms Network Access To Online Loan Firms by mhiztaNexy(m): 12:44pm On Aug 19, 2022
King125007:
Yes, I may have exaggerated d figure a bit, but I am sure it is close to that sir

About the education part, the minimum qualification needed to work in a loan shark company is ND, I know this because I once work with one of them back in d days

What I am trying to tell you is most youths working with them are university graduates .

For better job, it may interest you that most youths working there are actually working remotely, while doing other jobs. With a salary of up to 100k monthly. I know. A lot of people that were able to use this to gain a better life.. Male and female

What I am trying to say in a nutshell is, these people are employing lots of youths mostly Lagos where good jobs are scarce and some other parts of the country

Govt should regulate their operations and fine those caught wanting instead of killing the business totally.. That's just common sense na



100k, lmao. An ex staff from one of the loan app companies was on twitter sometimes ago. She complained about how rude and bad they treat their staffs because of a take home of 30k.

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Re: FG Blocks Mobile Payment, Telecoms Network Access To Online Loan Firms by einsteine(m): 12:49pm On Aug 19, 2022
Bullet01:
Bubu blocking only means of survival of employed youths. Making life more difficult for us. I have friends who are affected by ASUU strike that borrowed from some of these loan sharks as a means of survival.


Loans are not income.

These loan sharks are illegal.

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Re: FG Blocks Mobile Payment, Telecoms Network Access To Online Loan Firms by LZAA: 12:52pm On Aug 19, 2022
King125007:
Yes, I may have exaggerated d figure a bit, but I am sure it is close to that sir

About the education part, the minimum qualification needed to work in a loan shark company is ND, I know this because I once work with one of them back in d days

What I am trying to tell you is most youths working with them are university graduates .

For better job, it may interest you that most youths working there are actually working remotely, while doing other jobs. With a salary of up to 100k monthly. I know. A lot of people that were able to use this to gain a better life.. Male and female

What I am trying to say in a nutshell is, these people are employing lots of youths mostly Lagos where good jobs are scarce and some other parts of the country

Govt should regulate their operations and fine those caught wanting instead of killing the business totally.. That's just common sense na



BFree wey dey handle licensed loan COMPANIES pay 50 as basic
I don't know how you arrived at 100k
Government tried to regulate them,they said no
What do you want Government to do again?
Oh btw ssce holders also work for loan sharks as well

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Re: FG Blocks Mobile Payment, Telecoms Network Access To Online Loan Firms by King125007(m): 12:52pm On Aug 19, 2022
Ok, lemme let you in a little secret
The companies frown totally on defamation , threats, use of documents to threaten customers, I know a lot of my colleagues back then that were sack for that when they were caught

But here is the thing, every worker is assign a particular number of customers weekly to recover loans from and everyone is in competition to lead.
The higher money you recover from debtors the higher your bonuses and take home salary that month.. (100k-150k) This is not adding the basic salary for that month

So you see, it's a dog race, everyone want to take home a big cut, so they do this without the knowledge of the company most times


About contacting relatives, that was part of the agreement customers sign and gave consent to. They just didn't read the terms of agreement . So company can contact relative and inform of unpaid loan after attempt to get debtors to pay


mhiztaNexy:


Gaining access, yeah, defamation no. The bastards even sell contacts to other companies, reason why you'll receive loan offers from different numbers.
Re: FG Blocks Mobile Payment, Telecoms Network Access To Online Loan Firms by einsteine(m): 12:55pm On Aug 19, 2022
King125007:
Yes, I may have exaggerated d figure a bit, but I am sure it is close to that sir

About the education part, the minimum qualification needed to work in a loan shark company is ND, I know this because I once work with one of them back in d days

What I am trying to tell you is most youths working with them are university graduates .

For better job, it may interest you that most youths working there are actually working remotely, while doing other jobs. With a salary of up to 100k monthly. I know. A lot of people that were able to use this to gain a better life.. Male and female

What I am trying to say in a nutshell is, these people are employing lots of youths mostly Lagos where good jobs are scarce and some other parts of the country

Govt should regulate their operations and fine those caught wanting instead of killing the business totally.. That's just common sense na





Loan shark apologist spotted.

The industry is already regulated. It's your loan shark overlords who have deliberately refused to comply.

Are you aware that these loan sharks do not pay tax? Are you aware that they trap people in debt slavery and are breaking usury laws? The humongous profits they make is why they can afford to employ every man and his dog for their illegal activities.

So government should allow fly by the night operators to bring in criminal money from Chinese Triads (organised crime) because one unemployed graduate wants to get 75k monthly to be insulting people.

Can any of these so called graduates put this job on their CV? Can any of them proudly say they work for Soko Lending?

That's how dirty the job is and so the entire sector should be tossed into the thrash.

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Re: FG Blocks Mobile Payment, Telecoms Network Access To Online Loan Firms by AuroraB(f): 1:01pm On Aug 19, 2022
Chomsky1967:
Hello, my name is ... my phone number is 86, my BVN is 0, my family is dead, I need your help now, please call me back quickly, I need you to come Help me dig graves for my family, now they are all rotten and smelly, God told me yesterday to give them the grace to go to hell, so please come and help me, I still owe CashMap money not paid , please help me repay this loan, if you refuse to help me, then your whole family will be sent to hell by God.

That's the crazy message they sent me about someone on my contact
cheesy I guess this is the kain message/threat a colleague received. He began to shed tears
No be him collect loan ooo... one of his contacts did. They saved his picture from his WhatsApp profile cheesy
He sorrowed more than the borrower wey he no know cheesy

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Re: FG Blocks Mobile Payment, Telecoms Network Access To Online Loan Firms by einsteine(m): 1:01pm On Aug 19, 2022
ocelot2006:


But your contact signed up for it. Banks equally give loans with high interest rates.

Do you know what usury laws are?

Do you know what unenforceable contracts are?

I will provide some education here.

You are not allowed as a money lender to charge above defined rates. I have forgotten the exact figure for Lagos State but it is around 50% per year. These loan sharks charge that amount per week.

On the issue of contracts and terms and conditions, their terms and conditions are illegal ab initio and as such they cannot argue on the basis of it.

It's like saying because a borrower signs a contract that you can take his kidney if he fails to pay, that you can go ahead to take it. Organ harvesting is illegal and as such, that contract is illegal and unenforceable.

Loan sharks share personal information with third parties, infringe on the privacy of people who didn't take loans (this is an offence under the cybercrime act and under NITDA regulations), and shame and threaten people (also an offence under defamation laws in the criminal code). That they claim they informed customers in their terms and conditions is immaterial as those terms and conditions are illegal.

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Re: FG Blocks Mobile Payment, Telecoms Network Access To Online Loan Firms by einsteine(m): 1:03pm On Aug 19, 2022
ocelot2006:


But your contact signed up for it. Banks equally give loans with high interest rates.

It is against Nigeria's privacy laws to contact someone without the person's consent on and on.

And no, his contact may not have signed for it. Many people take these loans with fake contacts. A lot of people get these messages and don't even know the people that are being shamed.

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Re: FG Blocks Mobile Payment, Telecoms Network Access To Online Loan Firms by King125007(m): 1:04pm On Aug 19, 2022
Well I don't doubt you o
When i used to work in one of those company, back then, that 30k was our basic salary- by basic I mean if you just wake-up and go to the office daily nd sit down without doing anything at all, you will still be paid that basic.. Not joking

But if u manage to work small your minimum should be 50k+, 70-80k then if you're among top 10-top 20, then you should e taking home 120-150k..

Well she may be right it all depends on the loan company, there are so many of them right now, but some are really still paying well and you can work remotely and at the office

Working remotely start from covid-19 locked down

I know a frd (graduate ) working there that used this to open a big photography studio and bought all d equipment.. It was a gradual process but he was able to achieve it, many of them


mhiztaNexy:
100k, lmao. An ex staff from one of the loan app companies was on twitter sometimes ago. She complained about how rude and bad they treat their staffs because of a take home of 30k.
Re: FG Blocks Mobile Payment, Telecoms Network Access To Online Loan Firms by AuroraB(f): 1:08pm On Aug 19, 2022
[quote author=Eberex post=115845334][/quote]Sensed they were the ones calling a colleague one day, signalled her to cut off cheesy
She didn't sad...was saying yes, yes, what, uuuuh... mtcheeeeew, at the end of the day, she no know who the person be cheesy cheesy
I don't like those messages and calls from them sad. They're violating people's privacy some are people I respect. God dey sha

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Re: FG Blocks Mobile Payment, Telecoms Network Access To Online Loan Firms by einsteine(m): 1:10pm On Aug 19, 2022
Juoflife1:
Let them recover their loans before shutting them down. Why will someone take a loan and not pay back? People just like ripping off others. Govt ripping citizens, citizens ripping loan companies and vice versa. To even say some debtors will be happy with this news is disgusting. Can a society develop with this kind of mentality? I think not.

The society does not need loan sharks.

In the UK, the rule of thumb is that borrowers are not required to pay back lenders who break usury laws. You can go to the UK Fair Lending Site for more details.

These lenders are illegal, do not pay tax and operate with criminal money. Consequently, they do not deserve to get paid back.

Besides, they have already made billions.

People claim Nigerians to pay back loans, how come Soko Lending kept expanding till they had 8 apps? How come the total number of Chinese Lending apps in Nigeria got to over 100?

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Re: FG Blocks Mobile Payment, Telecoms Network Access To Online Loan Firms by nedekid: 1:10pm On Aug 19, 2022
grailife:

I woke up someday, and see two alert from two loan app in my phone, even though I didn't apply for loan
So how did they get your phone number, your bank and account number, your bvn etc?
Well, even me I woke up someday to see 1 Lamborghini and 1 Ferrari on both sides of my bed. No keys sha.

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Re: FG Blocks Mobile Payment, Telecoms Network Access To Online Loan Firms by TechBaron: 1:11pm On Aug 19, 2022
King125007:
Yes, I may have exaggerated d figure a bit, but I am sure it is close to that sir

About the education part, the minimum qualification needed to work in a loan shark company is ND, I know this because I once work with one of them back in d days

What I am trying to tell you is most youths working with them are university graduates .

For better job, it may interest you that most youths working there are actually working remotely, while doing other jobs. With a salary of up to 100k monthly. I know. A lot of people that were able to use this to gain a better life.. Male and female

What I am trying to say in a nutshell is, these people are employing lots of youths mostly Lagos where good jobs are scarce and some other parts of the country

Govt should regulate their operations and fine those caught wanting instead of killing the business totally.. That's just common sense na



Remember the aftermath of the Endsars protests?

When Nigerians get fed up and decide to take laws into their hands by tracking down these agents to their doorsteps and offices and give them a taste of their own pills, you people claiming that loan sharks are employing graduates would still come out to cry foul.

Everytime I hear that argument about loan sharks employing Nigerian graduates, it always sounds like "Boko Haram or bandits are employing Nigerian youths"

Employed to do what?.. Sabotage our economy?
Blackmail people emotionally?
Kill people with high blood pressure?

Oh please!

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Re: FG Blocks Mobile Payment, Telecoms Network Access To Online Loan Firms by Chomsky1967(f): 1:14pm On Aug 19, 2022
Melodydoctor:
screenshot the message pls cheesy

Re: FG Blocks Mobile Payment, Telecoms Network Access To Online Loan Firms by Chomsky1967(f): 1:16pm On Aug 19, 2022
AuroraB:
cheesy I guess this is the kain message/threat a colleague received. He began to shed tears
No be him collect loan ooo... one of his contacts did. They saved his picture from his WhatsApp profile cheesy
He sorrowed more than the borrower wey he no know cheesy
It funny but not funny. I panicked when I first read it
Re: FG Blocks Mobile Payment, Telecoms Network Access To Online Loan Firms by AuroraB(f): 1:28pm On Aug 19, 2022
Chomsky1967:

It funny but not funny. I panicked when I first read it
He had to make his WhatsApp profile picture accessible to only his contacts afterwards grin grin
Re: FG Blocks Mobile Payment, Telecoms Network Access To Online Loan Firms by Juoflife1(f): 1:47pm On Aug 19, 2022
The society does not need loan sharks, yet the people borrow from loan sharks. Why can't the society just walk into the bank and get a loan? If people don't patronize loan sharks, they will be out of business and die naturally. When they sign up for the loan, they don't realize the loan sharks break usury laws till it's time to pay back grin
How do you know they have made billions? Are you their accountant? A Nigerian will borrow money and intentionally refuse to pay back. A person who borrows from another should pay back, simple. No dey support bad thing. The borrower assented to the interest rates
einsteine:


The society does not need loan sharks.

In the UK, the rule of thumb is that borrowers are not required to pay back lenders who break usury laws. You can go to the UK Fair Lending Site for more details.

These lenders are illegal, do not pay tax and operate with criminal money. Consequently, they do not deserve to get paid back.

Besides, they have already made billions.

People claim Nigerians to pay back loans, how come Soko Lending kept expanding till they had 8 apps? How come the total number of Chinese Lending apps in Nigeria got to over 100?

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Re: FG Blocks Mobile Payment, Telecoms Network Access To Online Loan Firms by Zanzibar1: 1:57pm On Aug 19, 2022
Juoflife1:
Let them recover their loans before shutting them down. Why will someone take a loan and not pay back? People just like ripping off others. Govt ripping citizens, citizens ripping loan companies and vice versa. To even say some debtors will be happy with this news is disgusting. Can a society develop with this kind of mentality? I think not.

Can a society based on debts grow??

Nigeria is the poverty capital of the world,

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Re: FG Blocks Mobile Payment, Telecoms Network Access To Online Loan Firms by Melodydoctor: 2:07pm On Aug 19, 2022
Chomsky1967:

These people are very childish cheesy

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Re: FG Blocks Mobile Payment, Telecoms Network Access To Online Loan Firms by Yoighaman(m): 2:15pm On Aug 19, 2022
SavageResponse:


Some of you guys are just dumb!

Anytime a person makes an objective statement on loan apps matter you'll just accuse him of being a staff of a loan shark.

Anyhow you want to look at it the fact is that if you take a loan with the hidden intention of not paying back then you lack conscience and integrity!

Can't you just engage in a conversation without resorting to insults?

I could have responded that your father is dumb, but I wouldn't say that. It's so so wrong to do that.

Let's always discuss without insulting ourselves.

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Re: FG Blocks Mobile Payment, Telecoms Network Access To Online Loan Firms by Fastlinkpro: 2:16pm On Aug 19, 2022
crestedaguiyi:
inside life.

what happens to their outstanding debt cos i owe 2 of them

Find way go settle them oo , interest will accumulate and wait for you in the future.

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Re: FG Blocks Mobile Payment, Telecoms Network Access To Online Loan Firms by mhiztaNexy(m): 2:19pm On Aug 19, 2022
King125007:
Well I don't doubt you o
When i used to work in one of those company, back then, that 30k was our basic salary- by basic I mean if you just wake-up and go to the office daily nd sit down without doing anything at all, you will still be paid that basic.. Not joking

But if u manage to work small your minimum should be 50k+, 70-80k then if you're among top 10-top 20, then you should e taking home 120-150k..

Well she may be right it all depends on the loan company, there are so many of them right now, but some are really still paying well and you can work remotely and at the office

Working remotely start from covid-19 locked down

I know a frd (graduate ) working there that used this to open a big photography studio and bought all d equipment.. It was a gradual process but he was able to achieve it, many of them


yeah, i get you but i don't get the work more part
Re: FG Blocks Mobile Payment, Telecoms Network Access To Online Loan Firms by Carlyboi(m): 2:21pm On Aug 19, 2022
mhiztaNexy:


Lol. Never have i seen tarnishing image or disturbing one's contact in their t & cs or agreement. Show us one if you have seen. Why pay after defamation? Breach of agreement.



That concerns the Shylocks and debtors and you,but,pray tell,what do you think should be done to the bad debtors just write off their loans?besides,are you saying the Shylocks handed out loans without putting out a T & C for defaulters?and were debtors compelled to take the Shylock’s loan?the one that breached the agreement is the debtor.

I’m not holding brief for the Shylocks and their crude loan recovery methods and tactics but I think it’s ridiculous that you’re trying to absolve the defaulters and bad debtors here.
Re: FG Blocks Mobile Payment, Telecoms Network Access To Online Loan Firms by Nobody: 2:26pm On Aug 19, 2022
yeyebrity:


Do Carbon and Branch request for collaterals? Their interest rates are very reasonable with about a month to pay. These loan sharks demand for about 40% to 50% interest for a week’s loan. That’s outrageous!

I know someone who opened up that he owed Branch for about 2 years because he was too broke to pay. The most they did was submit himself at credit bureau. And they even stopped his interest from running further.

Yeah, Carbon and Branch are relatively sane.

But the thing is, giving loans without collateral is risky business, even for Carbon and Branch...
Re: FG Blocks Mobile Payment, Telecoms Network Access To Online Loan Firms by Lexit: 2:44pm On Aug 19, 2022
You have no point. The person wasn't forced to take the loan. And the duration to pay back was well spelt out which was agreed to. So why defaulting.
pacesetting:
Most of these loan sharks are criminals. The government needs to look into their activities properly. Imagine one of the so-called loan sharks worker called me yesterday, complaining about one of my contacts that borrowed money.

I called the contact later to get more info. It turned out that he borrowed 15K to pay 23k in one week. Just imagine the rip-off.

On top of that, he asked for one week extension, but was denied.

This is not how loan firms operate in other countries. Their policies, interest rates, and debt recovery methods are something else.
Re: FG Blocks Mobile Payment, Telecoms Network Access To Online Loan Firms by Lexit: 2:48pm On Aug 19, 2022
Did you not see the terms and conditions before accepting? How dumb!
chaseblack:
Lies, same loan apps that want to finish me with 'you have a loan offer' on WhatsApp.
How can you borrow me 50k and expect me to pay 70k within a week?
Even the most astute business man can't make such profits.

It only means one thing, they know people won't be able to pay back, so if they don't the money keeps increasing, before you know it, in two weeks you would have been owing 100k on top 50k loan and a lot of blackmail.

That's the biggest and most fraudulent rip off, these loan apps are scammers and a cheat shouldn't complain if someone beats him to his own own game!
Re: FG Blocks Mobile Payment, Telecoms Network Access To Online Loan Firms by mhiztaNexy(m): 2:54pm On Aug 19, 2022
King125007:
Ok, lemme let you in a little secret
The companies frown totally on defamation , threats, use of documents to threaten customers, I know a lot of my colleagues back then that were sack for that when they were caught

But here is the thing, every worker is assign a particular number of customers weekly to recover loans from and everyone is in competition to lead.
The higher money you recover from debtors the higher your bonuses and take home salary that month.. (100k-150k) This is not adding the basic salary for that month

So you see, it's a dog race, everyone want to take home a big cut, so they do this without the knowledge of the company most times


About contacting relatives, that was part of the agreement customers sign and gave consent to. They just didn't read the terms of agreement . So company can contact relative and inform of unpaid loan after attempt to get debtors to pay


about contacting relatives, that's if you put them down as your guarantor.

About staffs overdoing, why don't the proprietor allow issues like that to the reported if they are really serious and against it? Like report any number threatening you or report when you receive defamation to appropriate contacts provided (it's traceable since individuals assigned will account for it).

To the NIGERIANS ARE BAD DEBTORS "YEN YEN YEN" people, what do you expect from a failed system and economy?

Developed countries have good credit systems and how they recover loans. Not organisations milking desperate people and expecting to end well. USA president just released over 20billion dollars forgivable loans to its citizen recently because they know how the economy is right now.

"You agreed to the conditions" lol, who won't agree when they are desperate.

If anyone defames you, you'll be foolish cow to pay back if they don't show you where it was in the agreement to reach people apart from your guarantors. If they don't defame, try and pay back little by little till you sort it all but very calculative not to pay the stupid accrued interest over time.

If any uses "God will judge you or God will punish you", don't fret! God is against owo ele (loan with interest).

You are not a debtor but an experimental meat trying to survive against all odds. BUT DON'T GO AROUND OWING/BORROWING WHAT YOU KNOW YOU WON'T PAY BACK OR ELSE GOD AND THE UNIVERSE WILL PUNISH YOU DEARLY FOR IT.

AND IF YOU ARE A LOAN AGENT/RECOVERY AGENT, YOU ARE READING THIS AND YOU ALSO ENGAGE IN DEFAMATION AND HARRASMENT WHICH HAVE LED TO SOME PEOPLE'S DEATH, PUT THEM INTO TROUBLES, MAY ALL THE CURSES IN THE BIBLE AND QURAN FOLLOW YOU TILL YOUR FOURTH GENERATION.

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Re: FG Blocks Mobile Payment, Telecoms Network Access To Online Loan Firms by mhiztaNexy(m): 2:57pm On Aug 19, 2022
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