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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 1:43pm On Aug 19, 2022
Lordfave98:

It truly exposed a lot.
Jodera:
Lol.. I remember those times sha wey e be like say you dey defend Arteta. Coaching no easy sha, you go talk one thing, players fit go dey do another thing grin

This AON just opened my eyes to many things going on within the club. It also made me to see the other side of Arteta most of us didn't really know

How I wish dem fit dey do this Kain documentary yearly, at least most of us will be more understanding with the players and coaches in some of the decisions they make.

Tho I've not had time to watch it fully, but one of the clips I saw on TikTok showed the dressing room after the newcastle game. Mehn, the scene got to me. Arteta's voice was emotion laden, he was almost cry-talking....the number of times he used the F-word sef, u could sense the let-down in his voice.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 3:43pm On Aug 19, 2022
Jodera:
That lil argument between Saka and Xhaka was against Everton first leg. What's surprising me was that Arteta was insisting we attack, Saka was insisting on attack and pushing the ball forward, Xhaka was also saying same thing yet the 2nd half we still park the bus... Na wa ooo grin

And as for the Laca issue, it's good the coaches noticed how Laca was not getting into scoring positions and was trying to help him. But then, he's 30yrs so it's difficult to teach old dog a new trick I guess


I sometimes feel this is why he majorly had issues with the top 3 oldest players in the squad. He came with a Mentality that they must bend and be rigid. It can't work. Funny enough, they know you want to win, and can prove their loyalty to you differently from the rigid approach that the youngsters don't have a problem with. Like, these guys weren't finished yet now.


Las las, he's the coach, but this fact remains that you can't teach an old dog new tricks. We are seeing some of this issue with cr7 at man u. It's earning him insults. His own is even worse than the Emirates trio.


I expected he will be very harsh after some defeats, but he was rather motivating. But I also knew they're just showing us what they want us to see. The cameras and CCTV is making them more disciplined and professional. It is paying off.


I haven't seen one episode where he has an issue or discussion with Odegaard. I don't get that though.
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 5:35pm On Aug 19, 2022
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 6:20pm On Aug 19, 2022
daveP:



I sometimes feel this is why he majorly had issues with the top 3 oldest players in the squad. He came with a Mentality that they must bend and be rigid. It can't work. Funny enough, they know you want to win, and can prove their loyalty to you differently from the rigid approach that the youngsters don't have a problem with. Like, these guys weren't finished yet now.


Las las, he's the coach, but this fact remains that you can't teach an old dog new tricks. We are seeing some of this issue with cr7 at man u. It's earning him insults. His own is even worse than the Emirates trio.


I expected he will be very harsh after some defeats, but he was rather motivating. But I also knew they're just showing us what they want us to see. The cameras and CCTV is making them more disciplined and professional. It is paying off.


I haven't seen one episode where he has an issue or discussion with Odegaard. I don't get that though.

I don't see anything the coaches did wrong sha in showing Laca Benzema movt and positioning to learn from him. What I meant was that Laca was too involved in buildup neglecting that he'll need to be in the box to strike. Why I'm even saying the "old dog new tricks stuff" Is because that's what Laca have been doing for the greater part of his career and it'll be difficult to just change it suddenly


You know, I was thinking someone will say that bolded and I didn't wait for long grin

Can one control one's emotions when temperaments is running high and one needs to talk his mind in heat of the moment? Will you be thinking of motivation when you're under pressure (something that's you're not accustomed to) and really angry just because of camera?
Omo, I don't know how that works oo Tbh..


Well, I don't think he really had any issues with Odegaard sha. In fact, they'll have been in very good terms for him to be handed the captaincy armband before the end of the season
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 6:24pm On Aug 19, 2022
BlueRayDick:


Tho I've not had time to watch it fully, but one of the clips I saw on TikTok showed the dressing room after the newcastle game. Mehn, the scene got to me. Arteta's voice was emotion laden, he was almost cry-talking....the number of times he used the F-word sef, u could sense the let-down in his voice.
Lol, that F-word is just normal Arteta slangs sef. Whether he's angry, happy, motivating and giving insights, he must just chip in that F-word.

But mehn, truth be told, that tottenham game weak am. My guy wan cry. That one and Everton first leg was the two games in that series I know say Arteta vex wella grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 6:29pm On Aug 19, 2022
Jodera:
Lol, that F-word is just normal Arteta slangs sef. Whether he's angry, happy, motivating and giving insights, he must just chip in that F-word.

But mehn, truth be told, that tottenham game weak am. My guy wan cry. That one and Everton first leg was the two games in that series I know say Arteta vex wella grin

Even though I was not much of good Ebening's fan when he was our head coach, after this ALL OR NOTHING, I now understand sometimes the coaches do everything right, talk to the players, motivate them and all and then the match won't still go in their favor. I kinda feel maybe we fans were too hard on good ebening too....just the way we were hard on Arteta and blamed him for bottling the Top 4 last season.

Maybe good ebening was just taking the fall for the players back then sef and we no know.

This documentary really open our eyes to some possibilities that we never considered as fans running with emotions
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by myami: 6:42pm On Aug 19, 2022
Quiz
Who goes by the nickname El bicho?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 6:45pm On Aug 19, 2022
BlueRayDick:


Even though I was not much of good Ebening's fan when he was our head coach, after this ALL OR NOTHING, I now understand sometimes the coaches do everything right, talk to the players, motivate them and all and then the match won't still go in their favor. I kinda feel maybe we fans were too hard on good ebening too....just the way we were hard on Arteta and blamed him for bottling the Top 4 last season.

Maybe good ebening was just taking the fall for the players back then sef and we no know.

This documentary really open our eyes to some possibilities that we never considered as fans running with emotions
I see Ebening sef as a coach in the wrong environment. Most of the players complained they weren't hearing nor understanding what he's saying. There's an article I once read where Saka always meet Ljumberg to explain all what Ebening normally say.

But then coaches sef dey normally receive the heat. It's them that's the first point of call if anything goes wrong in the team. When you watch the series, you'll even see Arteta acknowledging how he's the one facing the consequences and shielding the boys (he's said so like 2-3 times at least).

And as for the bolded, I agree with you 100%. I just hope you start and complete it, I go really love to hear your full views and thoughts on it cool
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 6:47pm On Aug 19, 2022
myami:
Quiz

Who goes by the nickname El bicho?
C. Ronaldo.

I first came across the name for goal.xom grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 8:42pm On Aug 19, 2022
daveP:
o2tvseries has it. Seriezloaded has it too.
Thanks.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 11:49pm On Aug 19, 2022
daveP:



I sometimes feel this is why he majorly had issues with the top 3 oldest players in the squad. He came with a Mentality that they must bend and be rigid. It can't work. Funny enough, they know you want to win, and can prove their loyalty to you differently from the rigid approach that the youngsters don't have a problem with. Like, these guys weren't finished yet now.


Las las, he's the coach, but this fact remains that you can't teach an old dog new tricks. We are seeing some of this issue with cr7 at man u. It's earning him insults. His own is even worse than the Emirates trio.


I expected he will be very harsh after some defeats, but he was rather motivating. But I also knew they're just showing us what they want us to see. The cameras and CCTV is making them more disciplined and professional. It is paying off.


I haven't seen one episode where he has an issue or discussion with Odegaard. I don't get that though

Of all the Arsenal players, Ode understands his tactics the best. That's why he made him the captain. You will noticed he mostly beckons to Ode during match.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 11:53pm On Aug 19, 2022
myami:
Quiz

Who goes by the nickname El bicho?
CR7
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 12:03am On Aug 20, 2022
Jodera:
Mehn, I feel the pressure of him not scoring and the criticism he was receiving finally got to him. Cox I don't see any other reason why he would react like that to that young guy and to Cedric.
Even at that he was wrong... If the pressure was getting to him, he should have waited behind after the training and starts kicking the ball instead of the poor boy.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 9:48am On Aug 20, 2022
mostob:
Even at that he was wrong... If the pressure was getting to him, he should have waited behind after the training and starts kicking the ball instead of the poor boy.
Of course, he's wrong and that's very low of him. I'm just giving possible reasons why he would have done that because Laca is not someone known for such a behaviour

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 12:02pm On Aug 20, 2022
Jodera:
I see Ebening sef as a coach in the wrong environment. Most of the players complained they weren't hearing nor understanding what he's saying. There's an article I once read where Saka always meet Ljumberg to explain all what Ebening normally say.

But then coaches sef dey normally receive the heat. It's them that's the first point of call if anything goes wrong in the team. When you watch the series, you'll even see Arteta acknowledging how he's the one facing the consequences and shielding the boys (he's said so like 2-3 times at least).

And as for the bolded, I agree with you 100%. I just hope you start and complete it, I go really love to hear your full views and thoughts on it cool
That was why it feels some of us were defending Ebening then, thankfully, we see what he could do in the right environment with lesser budget..
But fans are too impatient and ever ready to roast them coaches...I laughed when I read Chelsea fans attacking Tuchel when things wasn't going fine with him...A coach who jus won them UCL o.
For me, if I see players not putting the required effort and possessing little talent/ability on the ball, I'll put 70% blame on the player .
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 1:57pm On Aug 20, 2022
Fkhalifa:

That was why it feels some of us were defending Ebening then, thankfully, we see what he could do in the right environment with lesser budget..
But fans are too impatient and ever ready to roast them coaches...I laughed when I read Chelsea fans attacking Tuchel when things wasn't going fine with him...A coach who jus won them UCL o.
For me, if I see players not putting the required effort and possessing little talent/ability on the ball, I'll put 70% blame on the player .
Yeah, e no dey easy sha. Fans are very impatient but then that's one of the reasons most of these coaches gets huge pay..
Ebening just seemed to be the wrong coach for us at that time, even though it might not be entirely his fault, but it is what it is..

Hopefully, Arteta will be the right coach for us and bring us success.

Some Chelsea fans most times no know wetin dey want grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 3:32pm On Aug 20, 2022
Jodera:
I don't see anything the coaches did wrong sha in showing Laca Benzema movt and positioning to learn from him. What I meant was that Laca was too involved in buildup neglecting that he'll need to be in the box to strike. Why I'm even saying the "old dog new tricks stuff" Is because that's what Laca have been doing for the greater part of his career and it'll be difficult to just change it suddenly


You know, I was thinking someone will say that bolded and I didn't wait for long grin

Can one control one's emotions when temperaments is running high and one needs to talk his mind in heat of the moment? Will you be thinking of motivation when you're under pressure (something that's you're not accustomed to) and really angry just because of camera?
Omo, I don't know how that works oo Tbh..


Well, I don't think he really had any issues with Odegaard sha. In fact, they'll have been in very good terms for him to be handed the captaincy armband before the end of the season

Same here. I felt that was necessary sef. He needed to see Benzema. The actual tactics will definitely not get to be part of this AON anyways. This AON will make people really love Mou more, especially if we see his Inter Milan days. Sotey field maintenance dey weep on the day he was leaving for good.

I see Arteta ending up like that next decade with major honors
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 4:35pm On Aug 20, 2022
Same line-up as last week’s . We go again !

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 5:23pm On Aug 20, 2022
He makes his 100th appearance today cool

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 5:35pm On Aug 20, 2022
Goal balll !

Jesus gbemi trabaye
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 5:36pm On Aug 20, 2022
Goal from Odegaard off a Martinelli rebound…. But na Jesus be the star of the goal
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 5:36pm On Aug 20, 2022
I call it scintillating! Jesus with a spectacular run , I love the fact that he puts the defenders on their backs immediately..
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 5:40pm On Aug 20, 2022
Another one
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 5:41pm On Aug 20, 2022
Odegaard makes it 2-0
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 5:41pm On Aug 20, 2022
VAR checking for possible offside
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 5:41pm On Aug 20, 2022
Odegaard with a superb strike. I love the activity and numbers inside the box.

#COYG
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 5:42pm On Aug 20, 2022
The goal stands
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 5:43pm On Aug 20, 2022
I really want Gabi J to score that ball. But i settle with the fact that Odegaard is scoring two goals with his first touch in the box. A big problem las season, now different. Huge!!
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by SirKay3(m): 5:45pm On Aug 20, 2022
Livestream match between Bornemouth and Arsenal

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 5:45pm On Aug 20, 2022
daveP:
I really want Gabi J to score that ball. But i settle with the fact that Odegaard is scoring two goals with his first touch in the box. A big problem las season, now different. Huge!!

He needs to be shooting more and more. He gets into dangerous positions and many times we have seen him choose to pass instead of shooting.

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