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Kobojunkie:
I am somehow used to blind individuals such as yourself!

By the way, I am afraid I am not a bastard, and thankfully neither am I a close-minded individual.

A bastard is a bastard. If you're born to unmarried parents, you are a bastard. That's just the truth. It's an English word. Try check it out.

Biodun556:
Allah states the following:
“If you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, marry women of your choice, two, or three, or four; but if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or that which your right hands possess. That will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice.” (Chapter an-Nisa / 3)

while the Arabs of the Jahiliyah period did not approve of subjecting orphans to wrong, they had no concept of justice and equity with regard to women. They married as many women as they wanted and then subjected them to injustice and oppression. It is in this context that people are told that if they fear perpetrating wrongs on orphans they ought to be equally worried about perpetrating them on women. In the first place they should never marry more than four, and of those four, they should marry only as many as they can treat fairly.

I am afraid there is a problem with the statement from contained in that there verse and this since it renders your special interpretation of little of not value or meaning is given what is in fact stated..

Biodun556:
Allah states the following:"
If you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, marry women of your choice, two, or three, or four; but
if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or that which your right hands possess. That will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice.” (Chapter an-Nisa / 3)

Are Orphans different from those referred to as the (with them)?

If yes, then who are those referenced as the with them?
If no, then in that case, what you claim above amounts to the same as the statement below...

Allah states the following: “If you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, marry women of your choice, two, or three, or four or only one, or that which your right hands possess. That will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice.” (Chapter an-Nisa / 3)

... hope you can easily see how your analogy fails miserably when put against the equivalent statement.

JesusIsAMuslim:
A bastard is a bastard. If you're born to unmarried parents, you are a bastard. That's just the truth. It's an English word. Try check it out.

Again....I am somehow used to blind individuals such as yourself!

By the way, I am afraid I am not a bastard, and thankfully neither am I a close-minded individual.

Kobojunkie:
Again....I am somehow used to blind individuals such as yourself!

By the way, I am afraid I am not a bastard, and thankfully neither am I a close-minded individual.

Lucky you. And if not undermining the truth makes me a close-minded individual, I'd love to be the number one in that fold. Happy?

Biodun556:
Allah states the following:

“If you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, marry women of your choice, two, or three, or four; but if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or that which your right hands possess. That will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice.” (Chapter an-Nisa / 3)

while the Arabs of the Jahiliyah period did not approve of subjecting orphans to wrong, they had no concept of justice and equity with regard to women. They married as many women as they wanted and then subjected them to injustice and oppression. It is in this context that people are told that if they fear perpetrating wrongs on orphans they ought to be equally worried about perpetrating them on women. In the first place they should never marry more than four, and of those four, they should marry only as many as they can treat fairly.

Quran 2:6. Indeed, those who disbelieve - it is all the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them - they will not believe.

He will never understand. Even if a primary school pikin will grasp it, the ignorance in his blood won't allow him.

Kindly ignore him.

Kobojunkie:
1. On the day in question, Peter was the only one who had betrayed Jesus Christ and had not seen Him since His resurrection. If you payed attention to the conversation till the end, you would have seen that after Peter had answered for the third time, Jesus Christ then said to Him, "Follow me".
That entire conversation was Jesus Christ reinstating Peter back into His fold as one of His own, after Peter's betrayal of Jesus Christ.

None of what I have stated differs from what is in fact written clearly in scripture for all those who have eyes to read.

2. What exactly is this comment in response to? Where was Jesus Christ telling who this?

Theologian, how do you explain mark 16:14. You said Peter is the only person that did not see Jesus after his resurrection.

almarthins:
Theologian, how do you explain mark 16:14. You said Peter is the only person that did not see Jesus after his resurrection.

I am not one of your theologians. I actually read and accept the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ as is written down for all who have understanding to comprehend. Your theologians would be the ones who lied to you that John 21 is Jesus Christ making Peter a shepherd where there is no mention of such in that entire chapter or any other place in the Gospels.

According to the story, Peter hadn't seen Jesus Christ before that day when Jesus Christ showed up and made them breakfast and then asked Him those questions. On that day, or at least the day before, only about 7 of the disciples had set out together to go catch fish that night, so not all 11 were gathered on that day. So .....would you like for us to toss His John 21 entirely out of this here conversation?

JesusIsAMuslim:
Maybe they are just more intelligent and working with the absolute truth. Muslims aren't confused.

Truth my foot the Quran is filled with contradiction Mohammed had the most worst character and personality

Kobojunkie:
I am not one of your theologians. I actually read and accept the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ as is written down for all who have understanding to comprehend. Your theologians would be the ones who lied to you that John 21 is Jesus Christ making Peter a shepherd where there is no mention of such in that entire chapter or any other place in the Gospels.

According to the story, Peter hadn't seen Jesus Christ before that day when Jesus Christ showed up and made them breakfast and then asked Him those questions. On that day, or at least the day before, only about 7 of the disciples had set out together to go catch fish that night, so not all 11 were gathered on that day. So .....would you like for us to toss His John 21 entirely out of this here conversation?

Whether you re theologian or not is my problem but you write like them. Most theologians will not enter heaven because of there heresies.
The account of mark came before john.

Lawag3:
Truth my foot the Quran is filled with contradiction Mohammed had the most worst character and personality

Coming from someone that follows a filtered religion? Your pastor just activated the clause in Exodus 21:10. Go and fight him.

How do I even debate someone that believes a man is God when his religion clearly told him man can never be God? Numbers 23:19.

Christianity is business as usual. And your pastors/lord only tell you what you wanna hear. The Jews are a lot more reasonable than Christians. Their only undoing is not recognising Jesus as a honoured prophet that he is.

Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Muhammed, Noah, Solomon, Elijah are Muslims. You better open your mind.

almarthins:
Whether you re theologian or not is my problem but you write like them. Most theologians will not enter heaven because of there heresies.
The account of mark came before john.

I write like them yet I continue to again notice you have not been able to confidently refute even a single one of the scriptural claims I have made against that fed you by your many pastors and mogs, your theologians of choice.

The account of Mark came before John meaning what? Obviously, if we are to believe both events did infact take place, then it follows that the account in John must have taken place before that recorded in Mark given the role played by Peter in the one case. It makes sense to conclude that Jesus Christ first met up with the 7 where He reinstalled Peter who had denied them, and then eventually gathering up with all 11 to score those among them who did not believe.

Unlike your pastors and mogs, your theologians of choice, I actually accept and trust what is written as is, rather than spin lies - what your interpretation magics really are - to add to what is written

JesusIsAMuslim:
Coming from someone that follows a filtered religion? Your pastor just activated the clause in Exodus 21:10. Go and fight him.

How do I even debate someone that believes a man is God when his religion clearly told him man can never be God? Numbers 23:19.

Christianity is business as usual. And your pastors/lord only tell you what you wanna hear. The Jews are a lot more reasonable than Christians. Their only undoing is not recognising Jesus as a honoured prophet that he is.

Jesus, Moses, Abraham, Muhammed, Noah, Solomon, Elijah are Muslims. You better open your mind.

Jesus in the bible called himself the son of God and Jesus himself is God. Jesus never said he was a prophet of God.

We could do a debate Here on nairaland and I promise you by the end of it you will become an apostate .

Lawag3:
Jesus in the bible called himself the son of God and Jesus himself is God. Jesus never said he was a prophet of God.

We could do a debate Here on nairaland and I promise you by the end of it you will become an apostate .

Lol.....there are many sons of God in the Bible. It's only a word of endearment.

Give me one verse Jesus calls himself God in the Bible.

Matthew 21:11

And the crowds were saying, “This is the prophet Jesus, from Nazareth in Galilee.”

They were many instances Jesus was rightfully described as a prophet but those that will be denied by Jesus always accord him the powers that belong to the one true God (Allah, Elaha, Eloha )

John 5:30

By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.

The above message is the same from all prophets. They are pure servant and messengers. They can't do nothing on their own. And that's the teaching of Islam. Absolute belief in God's will, control, power, Lordship.

If I was born a Christian, I will never die a Christian in sha Allah. I seek the truth and it will set me free. I pray you seek the truth and not the truth of your parents.

JesusIsAMuslim:
Lol.....there are many sons of God in the Bible. It's only a word of endearment.

Give me one verse Jesus calls himself God in the Bible.

Matthew 21:11

And the crowds were saying, “This is the prophet Jesus, from Nazareth in Galilee.”

They were many instances Jesus was rightfully described as a prophet but those that will be denied by Jesus always accord him the powers that belong to the one true God (Allah, Elaha, Eloha )

John 5:30

By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.

The above message is the same from all prophets. They are pure servant and messengers. They can't do nothing on their own. And that's the teaching of Islam. Absolute belief in God's will, control, power, Lordship.

If I was born a Christian, I will never die a Christian in sha Allah. I seek the truth and it will set me free. I pray you seek the truth and not the truth of your parents.

Yeah I have found the truth I can see you are open minded so I will tell you what I always tell Moslems because it works ask Jesus to reveal himself to you and he will . Don't forget about the debate .

Lawag3:
Yeah I have found the truth I can see you are open minded so I will tell you what I always tell Moslems because it works ask Jesus to reveal himself to you and he will . Don't forget about the debate .

I don't need Jesus to reveal himself to me. The Quran, Bible and Torah already did. He's but a messenger of Allah. You read it yourself. I call unto the God Jesus worshipped. The one without which Jesus can do nothing. I'm quoting your biblical verses to support my claims. Jesus is a Muslim (one who submits to the will of God).

John 20:17

Don’t cling to me,” Jesus said, “for I haven’t yet ascended to the Father. But go find my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”

Quran 4:171

O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not “Trinity”: desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth

I worship the God of Jesus, his mum and your God - Allah.

Lawag3:
Yeah I have found the truth I can see you are open minded so I will tell you what I always tell Moslems because it works ask Jesus to reveal himself to you and he will . Don't forget about the debate .

A debate with a dishonest fellow that wouldn't even trust his book? That would be a waste of time. Read your Bible and question the contradictions. It's not a coincidence many young guys are leaving Christianity. It's against commonsense. Seek the real God. Your God and Jesus's God.

Kobojunkie:
I write like them yet I continue to again notice you have not been able to confidently refute even a single one of the scriptural claims I have made against that fed you by your many pastors and mogs, your theologians of choice.

The account of Mark came before John meaning what? Obviously, if we are to believe both events did infact take place, then it follows that the account in John must have taken place before that recorded in Mark given the role played by Peter in the one case. It makes sense to conclude that Jesus Christ first met up with the 7 where He reinstalled Peter who had denied them, and then eventually gathering up with all 11 to score those among them who did not believe.

Unlike your pastors and mogs, your theologians of choice, I actually accept and trust what is written as is, rather than spin lies - what your interpretation magics really are - to add to what is written

If you have problem with fake men of God, deal with it. You are not the great judge that will judge them. We have seen it in the scripture that God had always appointed men through out the generations to bring his warning and message to his fellow man. Whether you want to turn a blind eye at the evidence that abound in the holy scripture is totally at your discretion.

What will you then say of Matthew 28:16. Like I said, you quote scripture that is suitable for your stiff necked heart.

almarthins:
1. If you have problem with fake men of God, deal with it. You are not the great judge that will judge them. We have seen it in the scripture that God had always appointed men through out the generations to bring his warning and message to his fellow man. Whether you want to turn a blind eye at the evidence that abound in the holy scripture is totally at your discretion.

2. What will you then say of Matthew 28:16. Like I said, you quote scripture that is suitable for your stiff necked heart.

1. Jesus Christ had a serious problem with fake mogs and pastors so much so that almost 50% of the rules He gave His followers contained warnings to steer clear of them and their lies. He condemned their lies and cursed them revealing them as part of the enemies camp - the weeds - in the Kingdom of God.

I have a problem with them because I see why Jesus Christ, the one who is my Master does, and like Him, I point them out for who they are.

2. What does Matthew 28 vs 16 say that bothers you?

And please, at this point in this conversation, I think you should stop pretending your confusion with what is written in the Gospels as mine. It is clear from the discussion that you haven't spend enough time actually investigating what is the Gospel of the Kingdom of God for your own self. So, can you please skip the pretense ?

P.s. - The reason God labeled the Israelites stiffnecked is that no matter what He did for them they refuse to accept and obey His teachings and commandments. They reject His teachings evClearly, I am not the stiffnecked one in this here conversation.

JesusIsAMuslim:
A debate with a dishonest fellow that wouldn't even trust his book? That would be a waste of time. Read your Bible and question the contradictions. It's not a coincidence many young guys are leaving Christianity. It's against commonsense. Seek the real God. Your God and Jesus's God.

Why do I feel you were talking to yourself. You know you can't defend Islam. I can defend the bible you can't defend the Quran or Mohammed's perfect character. Everything about your religion is questionable I will surely some the seed of truth and doubt in your mind . Accept it my brother .

JesusIsAMuslim:
I don't need Jesus to reveal himself to me. The Quran, Bible and Torah already did. He's but a messenger of Allah. You read it yourself. I call unto the God Jesus worshipped. The one without which Jesus can do nothing. I'm quoting your biblical verses to support my claims. Jesus is a Muslim (one who submits to the will of God).

John 20:17

Don’t cling to me,” Jesus said, “for I haven’t yet ascended to the Father. But go find my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”

Quran 4:171

O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not “Trinity”: desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth

I worship the God of Jesus, his mum and your God - Allah.

You twisted the bible passage it's not the father but my father you know you guys don't agree Jesus is the son of God so you guys twist whatever bible passage you can find to prove your point

That's how you guys claim Mohammed was the comforter Jesus promise his disciples all lies

That's how you guys claim Mohammed's name was mentioned in the bible another lie

That's how you guys claimed the bible was corrupted even when Muhammad in his time did not condemned the bible he even told Cristians to judge by the injil

You guys go to the bible for validation.

You should know that I have studied the Quran and I find it the most confusing book in the world. The Quran is always two-sided

You yourself knows that.

That's why you are hiding from the truth

Hnnnm

Lawag3:
Why do I feel you were talking to yourself. You know you can't defend Islam. I can defend the bible you can't defend the Quran or Mohammed's perfect character. Everything about your religion is questionable I will surely some the seed of truth and doubt in your mind . Accept it my brother .

What can you defend about the Bible without making yourself look silly? I'm lucky to be born a Muslim, but I would rather have no religion than to claim God is a man. Or God came down on earth to wrestle someone. Why do you derive so much joy in ridiculing the might of God?

I would rather worship Osun deity than be a Christian. At least, that's closer to home and the two gods cannot do anything without taking something away from you. An all-powerful God that needs to kill his begotten son before he could forgive my sins is no greater than Yeye Osun.

Tell me one logically, explainable concept in the Bible. You are a follower of Paul. Jesus never told you to do the many silly things you do now. And its not surprising that he will deny lots of you upon his return.

You are probably one lost soul cos your name says something about you. Heal and seek your truth, and not the truth of your parents.

Lawag3:
You twisted the bible passage it's not the father but my father you know you guys don't agree Jesus is the son of God so you guys twist whatever bible passage you can find to prove your point

That's how you guys claim Mohammed was the comforter Jesus promise his disciples all lies

That's how you guys claim Mohammed's name was mentioned in the bible another lie

That's how you guys claimed the bible was corrupted even when Muhammad in his time did not condemned the bible he even told Cristians to judge by the injil

You guys go to the bible for validation.

You should know that I have studied the Quran and I find it the most confusing book in the world. The Quran is always two-sided

You yourself knows that.

That's why you are hiding from the truth

Oga just go and rest. There's no way you are going to win this argument because na lie deh Ur hand.

Anything in the Bible that corresponds to what our Quran reveals, we take for the truth. Anything contradicting is definitely not the work of God. We believe in the true books given to all the prophets before Muhammad (peace be upon him). But we do not believe in the many versions of Paul's storybook.

We seek validation from Paul's storybook that doesn't even know its numbers? The author of that Bible doesn't even know his or her arithmetic. See evidence below:

And David took from him a thousand chariots, and seven hundred horsemen, and twenty thousand footmen.
II Samuel 8:4

And David took from him a thousand chariots, and seven thousand horsemen, and twenty thousand footmen.
I Chronicles 18:4

And the Quran will be confusing because of your heart. You will never understand it because of your poisoned heart.

Your religion is dumb and totally against commonsense.

JesusIsAMuslim:
What can you defend about the Bible without making yourself look silly? I'm lucky to be born a Muslim, but I would rather have no religion than to claim God is a man. Or God came down on earth to wrestle someone. Why do you derive so much joy in ridiculing the might of God?

I would rather worship Osun deity than be a Christian. At least, that's closer to home and the two gods cannot do anything without taking something away from you. An all-powerful God that needs to kill his begotten son before he could forgive my sins is no greater than Yeye Osun.

Tell me one logically, explainable concept in the Bible. You are a follower of Paul. Jesus never told you to do the many silly things you do now. And its not surprising that he will deny lots of you upon his return.

You are probably one lost soul cos your name says something about you. Heal and seek your truth, and not the truth of your parents.

Let me tell you although my parents are Cristians my mum is a devoted Cristian I was never religious before I had and still have a personal relationship with Jesus it's something you'll may never have so it not the truth of my parents.it's Christ love for me, although I backslide sometimes I know what having Jesus in my life means. The Paul you guys always criticize never met Jesus physically infact he hated Cristians he supervised the killing of Cristians what made him change so drastically?, he met Jesus after that encounter he defended Christianity he spread the gospel half way around the world, more than the
disciples of Jesus, he was tried and he was finally beheaded for being a Christian. Why will he go through all those pain? He knew where he was going. He has seen the light and he did all he could to be with the father of light. Mohammed did not know were he will go to he even said all Moslems will go to hell until the judgement day. See this is not about the argument of which religion is true this is about your eternity my brother think wisely don't let sentiment deprive you from the truth. I would really love to be your distance friend here is my email address if you want to talk lawanigreat79@gmail.com.

Lawag3:
Let me tell you although my parents are Cristians my mum is a devoted Cristian I was never religious before I had and still have a personal relationship with Jesus it's something you'll may never have so it not the truth of my parents.it's Christ love for me, although I backslide sometimes I know what having Jesus in my life means. The Paul you guys always criticize never met Jesus physically infact he hated Cristians he supervised the killing of Cristians what made him change so drastically?, he met Jesus after that encounter he defended Christianity he spread the gospel half way around the world, more than the
disciples of Jesus, he was tried and he was finally beheaded for being a Christian. Why will he go through all those pain? He knew where he was going. He has seen the light and he did all he could to be with the father of light. Mohammed did not know were he will go to he even said all Moslems will go to hell until the judgement day. See this is not about the argument of which religion is true this is about your eternity my brother think wisely don't let sentiment deprive you from the truth. I would really love to be your distance friend here is my email address if you want to talk lawanigreat79@gmail.com.

You can't have any personal relationship with Jesus. You should, instead, with the one Jesus bowed and prayed to just like the Muslims do. (Mat 26:39). Jesus is a headslammer and he's of those that believe. He's a Muslim.

Muhammed wouldn't tell you where he's going cos he's not the owner of the heavens. Allah, your God and my God will decide the fate of each and every one of us. There are actions that take you closer to paradise but we all need the mercy of God to enjoy that rewarding feat. How preposterous of a sinner to lay claim to paradise? Humble yourself mate.

I urge you to read about the character of Paul and the damage he's done to Christianity. Jesus said A, the disciples said A and poor Paul will tell you it's 419. I wouldn't trust too much a questionable character like Paul. I mean how do you explain Paul's Christianity to anyone and make it make sense.

* Jesus: God is one,
Paul and liars like him: God is 3-in -1.

* Jesus claimed he can't do anything on his own, Paul preached about the divine powers of Jesus. The son of Mary claims he knows not when the hour will be, neither did he know that the fig tree has no fruits. How can such individual be God or have divine powers?

* Paul made the Bible difficult to defend cos you will most likely contradict yourself at best, or make yourself look stupid at worse.

* Paul is like a leopard that wouldn't change his spot. There are many like him that claim to be for you whereas all their actions are against your interest. He infused into Christianity Greeks fallible and ungodly concept of God.

I would use my head and read about all the religious beliefs we have got and make a decision.


Islam is the only religion built to withstand the trials and tribulations of our world. And it will be the last standing religion for a reason.

JesusIsAMuslim:
You can't have any personal relationship with Jesus. You should, instead, with the one Jesus bowed and prayed to just like the Muslims do. (Mat 26:39). Jesus is a headslammer and he's of those that believe. He's a Muslim.

Muhammed wouldn't tell you where he's going cos he's not the owner of the heavens. Allah, your God and my God will decide the fate of each and every one of us. There are actions that take you closer to paradise but we all need the mercy of God to enjoy that rewarding feat. How preposterous of a sinner to lay claim to paradise? Humble yourself mate.

I urge you to read about the character of Paul and the damage he's done to Christianity. Jesus said A, the disciples said A and poor Paul will tell you it's 419. I wouldn't trust too much a questionable character like Paul. I mean how do you explain Paul's Christianity to anyone and make it make sense.

* Jesus: God is one,
Paul and liars like him: God is 3-in -1.

* Jesus claimed he can't do anything on his own, Paul preached about the divine powers of Jesus. The son of Mary claims he knows not when the hour will be, neither did he know that the fig tree has no fruits. How can such individual be God or have divine powers?

* Paul made the Bible difficult to defend cos you will most likely contradict yourself at best, or make yourself look stupid at worse.

* Paul is like a leopard that wouldn't change his spot. There are many like him that claim to be for you whereas all their actions are against your interest. He infused into Christianity Greeks fallible and ungodly concept of God.

I would use my head and read about all the religious beliefs we have got and make a decision.


Islam is the only religion built to withstand the trials and tribulations of our world. And it will be the last standing religion for a reason.

That's where you are wrong you can have a personal relationship with Jesus he is not like Allah that's a far away god

You are right a sinner cannot lay claim to heaven that's where Jesus comes in he is the son of God and has no sin so because the wages of sin is death Jesus death covers our sin so all we need to do is surrender ourselves to him and sin no more so through him we may get to heaven in the bible Jesus says I am the way the truth and light he also said there is no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus. Let me go back to what you said Allah decides the fate of everyone of us so Allah just picks people to be in paradise according to his wimp that means if a killer dies he may go to heaven if Allah decides that it's in his fate after everything Mohammed did he may still end up in hell well I don't want to follow a God that can't guarantee his most devoted follower his last prophet paradise wow.

To your point on Jesus divinity Jesus is God he became man to save us from sin you know when in the old testament the Jews slaughter rams for forgiveness of sin Jesus is the lamb of God he was killed so we don't need to kill rams to ask God for forgiveness the son of God's blood is more value able than the blood of all living things on earth so it is able to pay the price for all human sin ever committed our works alone cannot give us our salvation. For God so love the world he gave his only son so that who ever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life.it doesn't sound like something Allah would do.

To your point about Paul. Let me tell you about Paul although I have already told you Paul was a learned Jew he studied under the best Jewish teachers of that time he hate Cristians he supervised the killing of Cristians he hunted them he left Jerusalem to Damascus to kill Christians on his way he encountered Jesus he became the most devoted Cristian ever he was beheaded for Christ. Ask yourself this question why die for what you hated and even killed people for ?

Jesus even acknowledge the trinity he said he was the son of God he said he will send the comforter who you guys claimed is Mohammed which is not true the comforter is the holy spirit and then there is God all this three beings are part of one God like the way the hand and legs and eyes are different but are part of one body. Also the way humans are body,soul and spirit.

Islam Is built to resist the trials and tribulation of this world after that you aren't even sure of making it to paradise because Allah might decide you'll look better in hell. But Christianity on the other hand face tribulation and trials and after the race is won after all this you will receive your reward in heaven we are guaranteed our place in heaven as long as you finish well .

Lawag3:
That's where you are wrong you can have a personal relationship with Jesus he is not like Allah that's a far away god

You are right a sinner cannot lay claim to heaven that's where Jesus comes in he is the son of God and has no sin so because the wages of sin is death Jesus death covers our sin so all we need to do is surrender ourselves to him and sin no more so through him we may get to heaven in the bible Jesus says I am the way the truth and light he also said there is no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus. Let me go back to what you said Allah decides the fate of everyone of us so Allah just picks people to be in paradise according to his wimp that means if a killer dies he may go to heaven if Allah decides that it's in his fate after everything Mohammed did he may still end up in hell well I don't want to follow a God that can't guarantee his most devoted follower his last prophet paradise wow.

To your point on Jesus divinity Jesus is God he became man to save us from sin you know when in the old testament the Jews slaughter rams for forgiveness of sin Jesus is the lamb of God he was killed so we don't need to kill rams to ask God for forgiveness the son of God's blood is more value able than the blood of all living things on earth so it is able to pay the price for all human sin ever committed our works alone cannot give us our salvation. For God so love the world he gave his only son so that who ever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life.it doesn't sound like something Allah would do.

To your point about Paul. Let me tell you about Paul although I have already told you Paul was a learned Jew he studied under the best Jewish teachers of that time he hate Cristians he supervised the killing of Cristians he hunted them he left Jerusalem to Damascus to kill Christians on his way he encountered Jesus he became the most devoted Cristian ever he was beheaded for Christ. Ask yourself this question why die for what you hated and even killed people for ?

Jesus even acknowledge the trinity he said he was the son of God he said he will send the comforter who you guys claimed is Mohammed which is not true the comforter is the holy spirit and then there is God all this three beings are part of one God like the way the hand and legs and eyes are different but are part of one body. Also the way humans are body,soul and spirit.

Islam Is built to resist the trials and tribulation of this world after that you aren't even sure of making it to paradise because Allah might decide you'll look better in hell. But Christianity on the other hand face tribulation and trials and after the race is won after all this you will receive your reward in heaven we are guaranteed our place in heaven as long as you finish well .

It was that same far-away Allah, Jesus worshipped.

Wage of sin is death. Since Jesus already died for our sins, why do we have to die in the end. Shouldn't his death cover up for ours? We should just ascend to heaven without the need to die. Why should we be punished twice? That dying for our sins is another idiotic belief you hold unto. An all-powerful God should have the power to forgive our sins without sacrificing his son. He's not Eshu laalu fgs.

Yes, Allah wouldn't do that cos he's not silly and dumb. He is the most merciful God, one that forgives whom he wills and punishes whomsoever deserves to be punished. He is a just, reasonable God that doesn't have sons and daughters cos his majesty far outweighs birthing. He says be and it is. He is above needs.

Not only has Muhammad been certified of a place in paradise, he would have the luxury to grace it before any other soul, including that of Jesus. And he will be the spokesperson for all prophets on that day. On a day where everyone will want to be associated to Muhammad's nation. In fact, some of his companions have already been blessed with the good news of a place in Jannah. But the heaven is not Muhammad's. It belongs to the one that created it, Allah.

Jesus never called himself God. And he only makes that clear to the disciples that he can't do anything by his powers. Paul and his people ascribed to Jesus the powers he didn't have.

Where was the Jesus organ of "God" when he came down to earth? How was God able to function when a huge part of it was missing? The explanation of trinity is against commonsense.

God is one. It is very simple. Seek God. Worship God like Jesus did and you will be fine.

JesusIsAMuslim:
Something had to be done? I had enough of your vague explanation. Do you.

I feel like you understand what I mean could you please send me your email address I would love to seed you some books and videos and the Hadith of bukhari with that I hope you find the truth peace my brother

Lawag3:
I feel like you understand what I mean could you please send me your email address I would love to seed you some books and videos and the Hadith of bukhari with that I hope you find the truth peace my brother

You are uttering absolute rubbish. There's no need to continue with you again.